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What are the best atheist books that arnt woke and progressive about social justice. I want good arguments for atheism, not a book that cries at the reader because religion is mean to trannies.

>> No.23388737

>>23388572
Richard Dawkins seems to be the bible for atheists nowadays and he doesn't seem to SJW. You could start there

>> No.23388741

Graham Oppy

>> No.23388754

>>23388572
There aren't any good arguments for atheism
Atheism is a positive claim that God doesn't exist, which is by definition, impossible to prove. Therefore, any atheist argument you read will consist of taking aim at various religions and explaining how they fly in the face of known scientific or empirical realities if taken literally, or, a critique of their moral track record throughout history, or both.
Atheism is itself a religion. So no, you won't find any books like that.

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Robert Ingersoll

>> No.23388784

>>23388572
Osho. Buddha. Krishnamurti.

>> No.23388816

>>23388784
I wouldn't call Buddha an atheist per se.

>> No.23388941

>>23388737
His book is largely shit
>>23388572
Graham Oppy does a good job of laying out atheism in his book Atheism: The basics and then you can read deeper with Arguing about Gods also by Oppy.

The some of the well regarded atheistic philosophy are probably Graham Oppy, Bertrand Russell, and J. L. Mackie.
The best regarded theist philosophers are probably Alvin Plantinga, St. Augustine, and Richard Swinburne.

I'm not the biggest fan of Swinburne because he has a view of God as being a super empirical being which I think is conceptually incorrect but I know he's lumped in with the others sometimes. Kierkegaard also does a good job of explaining how religious belief can come about. Definitely the top contemporary theist though.

>> No.23389075

>>23388572
The Theism/Atheism argument is metaphysical by its own nature, so it has to be tackled within the bounds of logic and philosophy. Like this anon said >>23388754 the problem you'll run into is that atheists rarely engage with the concept within these terms and will most likely resort to attacking individual religions or literally with
>"ackthually, if I can't see god, how real?"
which is unfalsifiable but not in the context of the metaphysical. The question of whether God is real is not the same as "is this particular religion the correct one?" which is something I've seen atheists struggle to grasp, for some reason.

>> No.23389195

>>23388941
Sorry meant to say Plantinga is the top contemporary theist

>> No.23389211

>>23389075
>if I can't see god, how real?

How can theists ever recover?

>> No.23390515

>>23389211
Case in point.