Suggest masculine literature. I feel like a faggot all the time. I hate it.

[Anonymous No.23383828]

[Anonymous No.23383854]

the irony is that the most masculine literature is written by fags who appreciate male aesthetics and have honed it down to a platonic form.

do you think masculine is a state of mind or a state of being? because if there is no mind/body and only the body then masculinity is physical violence, domination, conquest, rape and then contrasted with peace. diplomacy. trade. gentleness. i don't see how reading what top tier gays wrote about the idolized men helps you, if anything it will make you gayer right?

eg. you feel like a faggot because you look like a feminine twink, you are soft and emotional and female coded. since your body fits that function.

i dont think lifting weights or learning how to fix or build things would help you. masculinity is innate, men do the things they do because they want to not because they are trying to become. soft weak men have existed since the beginning of time, they are involve themselves in the arts, singing, acting, trading and merchandise, finance, scientific endeavors. religion (big one almost forgot this) by modern standards almost all men were faggots because very few people were actually involved in warfare or construction. most men were harmless peasant farmers or educated introverts. the men that liked to fight did so and often died, having a eugenics effect on the species over time eliminating themselves from the gene poor and civilizing or pacifying the innate violent urges in the male sex.

[Anonymous No.23383855]

>I feel like a faggot
>posts Mishima
funny OP

[Anonymous No.23383857]

>>23383854
I hate my identity how i have been perceived since I was a kid, I want change

[Anonymous No.23383916]

>>23383857
start lifting then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjpBs2BfNbw

[Anonymous No.23383965]

>>23383828
Wagner's Art and Revolution. Also his Siegfried drama, which expresses all the vitality and inner development of a masculine nature in music.

>The free Greek, who set himself upon the pinnacle of Nature, could procreate Art from very joy in manhood. Art is the highest expression of activity of a race that has developed its physical beauty in unison with itself and Nature; and man must reap the highest joy from the world of sense, before he can mould therefrom the implements of his art; for from the world of sense alone, can he derive so much as the impulse to artistic creation.

>From the dishonouring slave−yoke of universal journeymanhood, with its sickly Money−soul, we wish to soar to the free manhood of Art, with the star−rays of its World−soul; from the weary, overburdened day−labourers of Commerce, we desire to grow to fair strong men, to whom the world belongs as an eternal, inexhaustible source of the highest delights of Art.

>In the struggle to give the wishes of my heart artistic shape, and in the ardour to discover what thing it was that drew me so resistlessly to the primal source of old home Sagas, I drove step by step into the deeper regions of antiquity, where at last to my delight, and truly in the utmost reaches of old time, I was to light upon the fair young form of Man, in all the freshness of his force. My studies thus bore me, through the legends of the Middle Ages, right down to their foundation in the old-Germanic Mythos; one swathing after another, which the later legendary lore had bound around it, I was able to unloose, and thus at last to gaze upon it in its chastest beauty. What here I saw, was no longer the Figure of conventional history, whose garment claims our interest more than does the actual shape inside; but the real naked Man, in whom I might spy each throbbing of his pulses, each stir within his mighty muscles, in uncramped, freest motion: the type of the true human being.

[Anonymous No.23383973]

>>23383828
>I feel like a faggot
>Mishima.jpg

[Anonymous No.23384651]

>>23383854
>the irony is that the most masculine literature is written by fags who appreciate male aesthetics and have honed it down to a platonic form.
Idk if it's ironic. It's the same reason most great are about women is created by men. It just makes sense.
But it does make you wonder- if that's the case, then why do women fail to create great art about men?

[Anonymous No.23384737]

>>23383855
I laughed as well maybe they're being ironic?

[Anonymous No.23384860]

>>23384737
Yeah, I was kind of implying that. Quite possible he doesn't know, though.

[Anonymous No.23386200]

>>23383855
maybe he's trying to find a way to incorporate both homolust and masculinity into his concious self. the two seem contradictory under todays mores but they don't have to be.

[Anonymous No.23387397]

>>23386200
this anon exactly this

[Anonymous No.23387604]

Has anyone's view on Mishima changed after going into deep dives on WW2 Japan?

[Anonymous No.23387800]

>>23383916
he wants to be less gay, anon.

[Anonymous No.23388174]

>>23387604
What do you want to know exactly?
During WWII he was active in far-right literary circles, after the war he was mostly apolitical during the 50's. The far-right persona he is mostly known for developed during the late 60's

[Anonymous No.23388178]

>>23383828
"masculine literature" is an expression of faggotry, so it wouldn't help

[Anonymous No.23388201]

>>23383854
>i dont think lifting weights or learning how to fix or build things would help you
You're wrong about that. Action in and of itself changes a person's state of mind. Manly habits will make you more masculine without you consciously noticing. But the point is to do it and not just to eternally prepare oneself on how to be a man in theory.

We live in a feminized society that psychologically castrates boys, cucks them out of risk-taking, competition, ambition, basically wants to mold them into nice and harmless second-rate girls. There's nothing "innate" about the current widespread masculinity crisis.

[Anonymous No.23388229]

What's wrong with just reading Hemmingway?

[Anonymous No.23388272]

Emerson said that Carlyle embodied manliness in the nineteenth century.

[Anonymous No.23388285]

>>23388178
Proust is my favourite
>after vagina, of course

[Anonymous No.23389135]

>>23388201
>feminized society
yes but this is due to microplastics, water treatment and the death of all the masculine white and asian men in the world wars. american blacks are less feminized (still feminized) and the third world regions that participated less in the conflicts are more masculine still. there was a giant eugenics effect at the start of the 20th century where all of the hypermasculine men died in war, and then a population explosion from these same regions where less masculine men bred extensively, and their genes passed on.

my point is arguing the exact opposite, i claim (i think with good evidence) that most modern men who lift weights are just larping, they are transgender, aping men from a previous era they never interacted with who naturally had large hands, a bigger skull, wider clavicles and overall a thicker skeleton. those men might have never lifted (a homosexual vanity thing for them) but if they had they would develop better physiques and be fast responders to training. it's a hormone, genetic thing due to many centuries of selection pressure.

it's a statistical argument, let's say X was 70% of the population in the 1700s then 50% in the 1800s then 20-30% in the 1900s and today maybe 10% of the male population.

>ah but anon why didn't this happen earlier in history?

war was less destructive in the past, and women cucked their husbands more. illegitimacy has always been a huge problem historically speaking, when the world was meaning women wanted desperately a strong well-developed male, even if it only meant getting one night.

your position is basically you can improve yourself, which of course is true, but that is similar to saying it's possible to fill a container. but you cant change the structure and size of the container you fill. so filling a thimble and saying you have a gallon doesn't work. we have permanently altered the sexual dimorphism of certain human races, and it will take either a massive violent event in which 80% of all men die or centuries of slow gradual reversion to the mean of history, in which women select the rare chads cucking their long term partners and you see a return of the exceptional man.

not to be a greek fanboy or anything, but all those famous philosophers were also athletes, wrestlers, boxers, and soldiers who survived very violent and dangerous lives to make it to their 60s, 70s, 80s as old men discussing and writing their philosophy down. the quality of philosophical investigations have gone down because different people started doing philosophy. hope this is clear and convincing and has broad implications for all things. not saying women are inferior, or that feminine men are inferior, just saying it's a change and it's happened, and it's a breeding selection event happening not a let's pretend we can change our bone structure choice happening.

[Anonymous No.23389471]

>>23384651
They do, women create men

[Anonymous No.23390003]

>>23388272
This.