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[Anonymous No.23345894]

Have any sociologists/philosophers written on the subject of Korean Wave i.e. sudden interest in Korean culture as a symptom of decaying late neoliberal capitalism? I really don't get the appeal of Korea, the women are pretty I guess but the culture itself is so soulless that even the fucking Netherlands looks like it exudes soul compared to them

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !Ry9RIEstm6 No.23345953]

KOREANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE PERPETUAL VICTIM INBETWEEN HEGEMONS, BEING PASSED AROUND FROM EMPIRE TO EMPIRE.

THE ANGLOZIONIST COLONY OF SOUTHERN KOREA IS THE ULTIMATE REALIZATION OF THAT MILLENNIAL HISTORY OF POLITICAL VICTIMHOOD.

SOUTHKOREANS ARE EXPERIMENTAL SUBJECTS OF THE WORST ASPECTS OF ANGLOZIONIST «CULTURE», AUGMENTED AND MULTIPLIED: «PROTESTANTISTIC» HERETICAL SECTS, NEOPAGAN SECTS, ECONOMIC LIBERALISM, DEMOCRATIC FUNDAMENTALISM, ET ALIA.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ARE SUPERCONFORMISTIC, SO, THEIR SUBJUGATION BECOMES MORALLY INVIOLABLE BY THE MERE FACT OF IT BEING THE STATE OF THINGS IN PLACE.

REGARDLESS OF THAT, I LIKE KOREANS; THEY ARE, FORMALLY, A NOBLE PEOPLE, DESPITE THEIR CURRENT DEFORMATION.

I RECENTLY MADE A THREAD REQUESTING RECOMMENDATIONS ON KOREAN POETS; ONE KNOWS A PEOPLE VIA ITS FOOD, ITS POETRY, AND ITS WOMEN.

THE THREAD WAS A FAILURE, OF COURSE, SINCE NOONE HERE READS; I HAD TO SEARCH FURTHER MYSELF; I FOUND AN EXCELLENT ANTHOLOGY OF KOREAN POETRY BY POETS OF THE XX, AND XXI, CENTURIES; RARE BOOK; I HAD TO ORDER IT FROM ARGENTINA.

[Anonymous No.23345955]

>>23345894
I’m actually interested. Have a bump.

[Anonymous No.23345980]

In SEA, local entertainment is dogshit. So whoever markets well enough does well. Dramas are more popular than movies in SEA and Korean dramas are second to none in production.

[Anonymous No.23345993]

>>23345953
What is the name of the book you found?

[࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !Ry9RIEstm6 No.23346000]

>>23345993

[Anonymous No.23346007]

>>23346000
Merci.

[Anonymous No.23346041]

>>23345894
>Captive Western Media-Markets finally forced out (slowly but surely) of their bubble-hax propped up by state-sponsered media
>Goyvestors in panic mode
>A inconsequential, but still large segment of the market alienated from dominant media narrative
>Cynical Korean businessmen see potential for expansion, and through use of powerful astroturf campaigns harness the average-alienated western consumer into their fold

You should probably reframe your question, as this wasn't caused by neoliberal capitalism but rather big globalist interests.

[Anonymous No.23346050]

Korea is basically the apex of government oversight and control, to the point where the acting federal entities are a tightly-knit cult who abuse (if not outright abduct and kill) the general populace, all with the aid of modern technology.

Worship of symbolism goes hand-in-hand with organized psychopathy.

[Anonymous No.23346062]

>>23345894
It's all part of Kim Jung Un's Master Plan.

[Anonymous No.23346070]

>>23346050
That's all propped up by Uncle Sam though. They didn't have that cult before Yankee created South Korea. What I don't get is why it exists in the first place. It's not very high level compared to domestic western occult-shaite, which means that's probably some Yankee-experiment?

That or it's just latest how-to-blackmail-politician-puppet technique, one where they favour wymyn.

[Anonymous No.23346136]

>>23345894
korea pisses me off. their women piss me off. bogged to hell and back. and their "food" is fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.23346180]

>>23346070
Sounds like a skill issue

[Anonymous No.23346284]

>>23346180
Shoo, botnigger.

[Anonymous No.23346286]

>even the fucking Netherlands looks like it exudes soul
rude desu

[Anonymous No.23346421]

>>23345894
As society moves more and more online, it comes into contact with weebs more and more often. Without the filter of peers and real-life interaction, it becomes harder to make fun of someone for liking weeb shit, because through an online medium, I do not see what the weeb advocate physically looks like.

Think about it. In high school, the weebs were fucking ugly, fat, smelly men, and ugly weirdo freak girls. You'd take one look at them and say, yeah, it's that weeb shit making them like that. I'll pass. But now when weeb shit is introduced to you, there's no physical person. So you feel safer consuming the content.

Make no mistake, weeb shit is still for losers, trannies, and fags. Normies just have a harder time making that distinction now because there is no longer a physical representation of weebs.

[Anonymous No.23346430]

>>23345894
It's the same exact thing that happened with Japan about 40 years ago, koreans won't even last that long, the chinese will take over soon

[Anonymous No.23346431]

>>23345894
Gangnam style was what reminded a lot of people of korea's existence. It helps that their entertainment industry pumps billions into domestic and foreign audiences.
Shit like this>>23346421 is retarded, especially when the people bringing it to you this time around are hypernormies on par with swifties.
Expect a good book in 10 years.

[Anonymous No.23346447]

>>23345894
The government paid for it’s promotion. You think entertainment is a natural phenomenon?

[Anonymous No.23346451]

>>23345980
The real question is, why hasn't Japan broached into this space? For whatever reason, all their best talent goes into anime and movies, but non-animated serial productions are just made like some kind of dog food and no attempt is made at marketing them outside of the country or making them remotely palatable in terms of presentation. It's weird, because you'd expect the Japanese to be onto this kind of thing, but instead there's a major gap they just leave alone and Korea is taking advantage of this.

[Anonymous No.23346476]

>>23346421
anime website reddit(/pol/)fag

[Anonymous No.23346483]

>>23346430

not likely. korea's cultural success has to do with it imitating completely American pop culture, and it just put a "yellow" face on it. China is not a free country and the government has no interest in allowing society to imitate or adopt American pop culture, so that's not going to happen.

>>23346451

Japan has been in general retreat for more than two decades. they have become a very insular country with no interest in the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.23346498]

>>23346451
Because Anime is their cultural-root in 21st century. It's also a strictly japanese thing, it manages to differentiate itself from cartoons - its inspiration - to become its own thing, one that has achieved success that still exceeds the Korean cultural output.

I mean shit, what do Koreans really have? Just Bogged-down prostitutes that they pimp to the rest of the world via soft-core K-Pop advertisements? I think anime ultimately beats that.

[Anonymous No.23346508]

>>23346070
youre hilariously ignorant of korean history. they have unironically always been this insane.

[Anonymous No.23346528]

>>23346508
Extremely bad bait. No proof of femcult nonsense before Uncle Sam.

[Anonymous No.23346535]

>>23346528
>it wasnt specifically this exact variation of cultish behavior
>so ignore the last few thousand years of cults and coups and generally elevated levels of insane bullshit

[Anonymous No.23346566]

>>23346535
>posts a gigantic infographic about femcult gook nonsense and uses it as an argument without providing older examples
>purposefully ignores the frame of gookfemcult when called out
>n-no...I wasn't specifically talking about that

[Anonymous No.23346567]

>>23346476
>/lit/ is an anime website
Thanks for proving my point, tranny.
>>23346431
You completely misunderstood my point.

[Anonymous No.23346580]

>>23346566
im not that anon. do a cursory review of korean history. its actually, unironically, batshit insane.

[Anonymous No.23346598]

>>23345894
I want to fuck one so bad

[Anonymous No.23346612]

[Anonymous No.23346630]

>>23346535
>>23346580
I have. Name the most insane thing you find in pre-modern Korea to defend your point, and explain why it exceeds Chinese or Mongols for example, or other batshit insane cultures for that matter.

[Anonymous No.23346672]

>>23345894
didn't mark fisher obsess over that

[Anonymous No.23346722]

>>23346630
>claim about the statistical frequency of a phenomenon
>"oh yeah? name one thing thats crazier than [other thing]"
anon why are you doing this?

[Anonymous No.23346770]

>>23345953
I fucking hate you namefag get out of my board

[Anonymous No.23347105]

>>23345894
My sister's big into this; learning Korean, too.

[Anonymous No.23347125]

>>23345894
Knowing why does this happen won't change the fact that it did happen, it just did. This knowledge is beyond useless. All knowledge is ultimately useless. Stop seeking it.

[Anonymous No.23347130]

>>23346580
It's really not mate. They were basically slaves of China for like 99% of their history. 99% of their history is bootlicking. That's not "batshit insane" Unless you count all the genocides they did during the Korean wars. Yeah, those were batshit insane. One such would be the Bodo League massacre.

[Anonymous No.23347329]

>>23345894
>the culture itself is so soulless that even the fucking Netherlands looks like it exudes soul compared to them
That's the appeal. Perfectly assumed soullessness played 100% straight all the while being functional on a basic worldly basis (inb4 birthrates). It's its own sort of comfy.
Also I just like StarCraft.

[Anonymous No.23347396]

>>23347130
I don't know. It's pretty amazing that they exist independently at all even if they were split into two parts by the West.

[Anonymous No.23347497]

>>23346498
Their movies are better than anything that Japan has to offer in the cinematography industry. Animes are baby shit.

[Anonymous No.23347551]

>>23345894
Korean women are the ugliest of all Asians, emotionless aliens

[Anonymous No.23347723]

>>23345953
>KOREANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THE PERPETUAL VICTIM INBETWEEN HEGEMONS, BEING PASSED AROUND FROM EMPIRE TO EMPIRE.
This is not even remotely true. The borders of Japan and Korea has been some of the most stable throughout history. Other countries just end up identifying with their invaders regardless of whether the base population is made up of their conquerors or not.

[Anonymous No.23347766]

South Korea combines the worst aspects of Japan and the U.S. Their birth rate is basically zero, terrible work culture, a very consumeristic and vapid culture, and essentially they're ruled by powerful oligarchs who are the ones who actually make the decisions. It's sad when you look at their history and see how fucked over they got by Japan and then the Korean war happened but then within like 20 years they rampantly industrialized and modernized. Just like Japan, they're a US vassal state so it makes sense why everything they do is taken from the US but I guess people find it unique since it has an eastern element to it. Their whole trajectory is unusual for a country when you think about it.

[Anonymous No.23348119]

>>23345894
The Netherlands is an incredibly soulful place; it just needs to move past the grotesque secularism that became its culture in the past 50 years.

Anyway Korea is popular because they're a very shallow shitty culture that is good at exporting itself for the rest of the world. They're a weird Asian mirror to American culture and have all of the shallow appearances-are-everything. They're literally everything shallow and horrible about American mass media, but the voices that tore down American mass-media are silent about them because they aren't white and by their own rules you can't criticize them.

[Anonymous No.23348202]

>>23348119

There is the plastic surgery factor too. I tihnk it's something that Japanese people would not do, but Koreans are all over it. Japanese are even (unfortunately) skeptical about cosmetic dentistry, while Koreans will do ten different surgeries and treatments to look as white as people.

[Anonymous No.23348224]

>>23348202
maybe we should stop calling it cosmetic. how your teeth look directly reflect their health.

not having straight teeth makes you more prone to chipping and joint pain.

[Anonymous No.23348334]

>>23346630
They had a pretty bad ass navy at several points in their history. Even today they dominate the manufacturering of cargo ships.

[Anonymous No.23348343]

>>23348334
>They had a pretty bad ass navy at several points in their history. Even today they dominate the manufacturering of cargo ships.
Obligatory Turtle Ship post.

[Anonymous No.23348346]

You're all really overthinking it. The simple fact is that Koreans are better actors than the Chinese or Japanese.

[Anonymous No.23348352]

>>23348346
>filtered by non-Western acting that isn't centred on realism
They're not though. Watch a Noh play you uncultured swine.

[Anonymous No.23348372]

>>23348352
Alright, acting that appeals to western audiences then.

[Anonymous No.23348463]

>>23348372
I'd say it's more the production that appeals to Western audiences. Most people don't watch K-drama shit or Japanese historical dramas. But people will watch stuff with an appealing plot (e.g. Squid Game) and Japanese horror.

[Anonymous No.23348471]

>>23347497
You haven't seen a lot have you? Koreakino is entry level, japkino is exit level.

[Anonymous No.23348487]

>>23348471
last century sure.

[Anonymous No.23348496]

>>23345894
Korea represents feminine materialism, in contrast to Japan's masculine idealism. For much of history Korea has been passed around by stronger powers, preventing them from maturing into their own, and forcing them to prioritize materialism for their own survival. You can see this in their culture, dominated by sterile corporations such as Samsung, or their women obsessing over looks to the point that many get plastic surgery to look more western, or their soulless bugman pseudo-futuristic architecture. Westerners that love Korean culture are mainly lonely young women and effeminate boys that listen to K-pop and use it as a substitute for relationships, hence "stan culture", but these fake relationships are skin deep. The women care only for appearances.

In contrast, Japan has had far more autonomy over history, in large part thanks to Japan being an island nation. Japan has had time to mature into their own and value their own culture and traditions. The country is full of Shinto shrines and they have an abundance of fascinating mythology, such as Izanami and Izanagi. They quickly industrialized and took influence from western countries without losing what makes them unique. Japan is a nation that is simultaneously in the past and in the future. Westerners that love Japanese culture are usually socially outcast men that are consumed by feelings of romanticism, longing for the ideal "waifu" that possesses both feminine beauty and wifely virtues, or young women who are longing for their Prince Charming.

[Anonymous No.23348529]

>>23345953
This is so retarded it loops back around to being based, at least you made a coherent post this time

[Anonymous No.23348569]

Camille Paglia indirectly talks about it via transgenderism/androgyny. Koreans are the most androgynous ethnic group. The men have soft faces and no body hair while the women have square hips and flat chests. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8BRdwgPChQ

[Anonymous No.23348585]

>>23345894
Overgeneralizing people (I know) you don’t really understand speaks more of you than them. I’ve been to Korea, even been in those blue buildings at the DMZ. They aren’t soulless bug people. They aren’t perfect either. They’ve grown up with direct American influence for nearly a century now. I can’t say the reason they’ve become culturally relevant in the west now but it might have something to do with that. Please think before you post nonsense “SOVL” garbage.

[Anonymous No.23348593]

>>23348585
You can't just assert that we are overgeneralizing. What is your argument for this point.

[Anonymous No.23348603]

>>23348585
The Koreans live in a capitalistic hellhole that rewards worshipping their superiors and elders. They are greedy, lesser so than Jews, but worse at hiding it. They have ruined so many products with their copyright bullshit that I have no choice but to hate them.

[Anonymous No.23348615]

>>23348569
Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.23348622]

>>23348615
Holy shit his face lmao. How the fuck does that even happen?

[Anonymous No.23348638]

>>23348487
Korean films today are a ripoff of takeshi kitano 80s violent wave of crime/yakuza flicks. They inject every type of unnecessary violence into their film to make them sell. I couldn't think of a more soulless country that tries to copy either japan or the US.

[Anonymous No.23348643]

>>23348638
what a disengenuous take, do better.

[Anonymous No.23348701]

>>23348643
What a thoughtfully coherent post, i am sure your mom is proud of her boy.

[Anonymous No.23348721]

>>23348701
what an ideal expression of millenial faux wit. kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.23348733]

>>23345894
Maybe koreans are just having their own little golden age? Where their societal issues and creative energy have piled up to create media which has something to say and is fresh and energetic?

[Anonymous No.23348746]

>>23348721
seething korean gook, when is your next plastic surgery appointment dong chul?

[Anonymous No.23348789]

>>23348746
not even close lol

[Anonymous No.23348796]

>>23348789
close is what your eyes should be doing right now kim-guk, extending them won't make you white

[Anonymous No.23348804]

>>23348796
I think he's talking about his surgery appointment. 3 or 4 years are indeed not close.

[Anonymous No.23348809]

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[Anonymous No.23348839]

>>23346286
Be glad we even acknowledge your existence.

[Anonymous No.23349202]

>>23345894
Meh, Gookshill ruined the thread. The country is objectively shit, both currently and historically. The only thing it has going for it is bogged K-Pop pimping, and working their asses off to please Big Dick Uncle Sam. No amount of shilling will change that fact.

[Anonymous No.23349213]

>>23349202
go back to discord

[Anonymous No.23349216]

>>23349202
Didn't hundreds die at this event? Amazing how fast it was forgotten lol, it's only been like 2-3 years? If this was America, this would be repeated for decades on end. They would be made an actual laughingstock. Say what you want, but the Korean government is much more dystopian than America's. Mainly because the USA is so divided in its power structure. South Korea less so.

[Anonymous No.23349217]

>>23349213
go die in a stampede gook

[Anonymous No.23349221]

>>23349216
It 100% was some sacrifice ritual. Those usually get memoryholed pretty quick. Another that comes to mind is that American Satanist Nigger, Travis or something, on whose concert, coincidentally enough, a similar stampede happened.

But it's East - they don't really care about individual lives, so maybe it's just not a big deal?

[Anonymous No.23349234]

>>23349221
It's not on the same scale. Like 5 people vs 150+ dead and hundreds more injured. And for the concert, niggers kept saying that it was the organizer's fault, at least if I remember correctly.

[Anonymous No.23349252]

>>23345953
You're so fucking autistic. Please make me pregnant.

[Anonymous No.23349255]

>>23349217
>durr its a gook!
again, no even close. you just got btfo and started calling everyone a gook. fucking sad.

[Anonymous No.23349268]

>>23349255
Gook shill? That's even sadder.

[Anonymous No.23349274]

>>23349268
retard

[Anonymous No.23349276]

>>23349234
150 people at a concert in West would attract too much unwanted attention. In East, where life is objectively worthless and most Vassal-leaders cucked, you can add a couple of zero's to a number and still have a relatively low profile.

Both events were heavy on symbolism, which is what outs them as rituals in the first place.

[Anonymous No.23349298]

>>23345894
>>23349202

[Anonymous No.23349318]

>>23349202
>>23349216
>>23349221
>>23349234
>>23349276
Damn, this shit was actually insane.

[El gordo terremoto No.23349334]

>>23345953
Don't name my country, trava.

[Anonymous No.23349337]

>>23349318
See that Bee symbolism, on some of the corpses? I think the ones covered with the non-orange blankets are innocents who were collateral. The ones in orange blanket are probably whatever type of slave they have for these ceremonies.

That or they just didn't have blankets for everybody kek. But who keeps bee blankets on the ready for these kinds of events kek.

[Anonymous No.23349339]

>>23345894
This isn't really what's happening at all. You're reading to much into it. Average people (the mainstream) are just being exposed to something they didn't know existed.
Same thing has happened with a lot of things.
Your desire to filter it through this lens of capitalism or whatever else is a projection the same kind that tries to filter everything through a feminist lens or an LGBTQ lens or whatever else. You're putting everything where you want it to be, wherever is convenient to you.
Of course you don't get the appeal of Korea. You're not Korean. Like all the normies you didn't care about Korea until everybody else did. You're as late to the party as everybody else The only difference between you and them is they responded positively to a new stimulus and you responded negatively. Like most Asian nations Korea is pretty old, old enough that your exposure and reaction to it now does not hold much significance.

[Anonymous No.23349368]

>>23349339
The question wasn't about getting korea, its about why korea is getting airtime when its clearly known that their culture is a watered down imitation of japan and the us. Their imitation game is too fucking strong and people are wondering why they are relevant.

[Anonymous No.23349371]

>>23349318
lol only asians and arabs can die this way

[Anonymous No.23349383]

>>23349368
>>23345894
Successful marketing campaign and good timing. Globohomo-pushed narrative fucked entertainment industry, and a segment of its consumers, to the point where Koreans could swoop in and provide their own alternative.

That's all there is to it at the end of the day. Once you've established that fact the discussion can only go into the territory of Globohomo-alientation, K-Pop pimping harvesting coomers - East Asian women stand in direct oppossition to cellulite nigger-ass standard, which is ugly to everyone who's not a shitskin - and perhaps the overall decline of internet and capitalists focusing more on the shitskin market. Check out the picrel. 1997-2007 Internet was purely Western-era, consequently that's when things were more or less good. These days it's invaded by brownoids, who make up the consumer majority, hence the culture is slowly morphing to their ugly standards in hopes of capturing their bucks.

[Anonymous No.23349418]

>>23348615
>posting a roidtranny to disprove the point about koreans being like trannies
Yeah ok buddy

[Anonymous No.23349428]

This thread comes across as westoids just being incredibly insecure that another country has a successful culture.

[Anonymous No.23349431]

>>23349337
>But who keeps bee blankets on the ready for these kinds of events kek.
the nearby store they proqured the blankets from?

[Anonymous No.23349439]

>>23349368
>why korea is getting airtime when its clearly known that their culture is a watered down imitation of japan and the us.
Because Korean dramas are pretty good? I don't know, if US stopped being jewish and started making good tv shows (again?) maybe they would get attention too.

[Anonymous No.23349472]

God the glowie is back, thread's officially dead.

[Anonymous No.23349500]

>>23345894
I think Jim Crow laws should be reinstated but this time for weebs instead of black people.

[Anonymous No.23349658]

>>23345894
For me, it's the freckles

[Anonymous No.23349691]

>>23345953
>Anglozionist
Woah, Kevin, I didn't know you swung that way. Are you also antisemitic?

[Anonymous No.23349762]

>>23348569
>Koreans are the most androgynous ethnic group
you should stop consuming kpop. Koreans are stereotyped to have broad wide faces

[Anonymous No.23349807]

>>23348638

This. Korean films are almost all just rip-offs of shitty American movies. Certainly in style and in tropes and everything. I've never seen a Korean movie that showed any originality or the kind of soul that you would find in Chinese movies of the Fifth Generation or Japanese movies from directors like Akira Kurosawa.

Who's ever even heard of a Korean director? Their movies are just like studio movies. Hollywood type garbage.

[Anonymous No.23349845]

>>23345894
I think it's a matter of the rest of the world growing as mindless and vapid as Korean society.

[Anonymous No.23349907]

>>23346770
>install 4chanx
>click on drop down menu next to the post id
>Filter
>Tripcoder
Never again have to listen to this retard babel in with all caps because his speech has no substance.