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[Anonymous No.23343167]

>Nietzsche talked about how one should manifest their will to power
>BUT Nietzsche actually meant psychological and spiritual power, not physical and social.
>Instead of changing your circumstances, endure slave-like conditions because that's self-overcoming.

[Elliot's Husband !!UeLxjR8BrJ6 No.23343203]

Wow someone actually understands Nietzsche for once. It truly is an early Christmas miracle.

[Anonymous No.23343220]

>>23343167
You're describing stoicism, brother. Self-tyranny is a lot different than the affirmation of life. You can't find a nietzche passage that says one shouldn't change their circumstances, rather that one should live with pride and joy by expending their strength upon the world.

good try althoughbeit, you can do better. read more.

[Anonymous No.23343442]

>>23343167
>>Instead of changing your circumstances, endure slave-like conditions
"Free, dost thou call thyself? Thy ruling thought would I hear of, and not that thou hast escaped from a yoke.
Art thou one entitled to escape from a yoke? Many a one hath cast away his final worth when he hath cast away his servitude.
Free from what? What doth that matter to Zarathustra! Clearly, however, shall thine eye show unto me: free for what?"

>>endure slave-like conditions
"And often have they been good servants and worthy of their hire. For thus saith virtue: “If thou must be a servant, seek him unto whom thy service is most useful!
The spirit and virtue of thy master shall advance by thou being his servant: thus wilt thou thyself advance with his spirit and virtue!” "

"And as the lesser surrendereth himself to the greater that he may have delight and power over the least of all, so doth even the greatest surrender himself, and staketh— life, for the sake of power.
It is the surrender of the greatest to run risk and danger, and play dice for death.
And where there is sacrifice and service and love-glances, there also is the will to be master. By by-ways doth the weaker then slink into the fortress, and into the heart of the mightier one—and there stealeth power."

[Anonymous No.23343459]

>>23343167
>Another nietzsche thread.

[Anonymous No.23343843]

>>23343167
He makes a reference to this in BGE, it should also be noted that while he does praise this and the connotations can certainly be applied to martyrs, monks, and mystics it should also be noted that the individual is seeking an affirmation of power through self mastery. The martyr is acting in such a way that is predicated upon tapping into power associated with a cause, even if it means loss of life. Monks and mystics are also making sacrifices as well, but provided they are doing so with the intent to tap into power they believe will ultimately serve their own end and perhaps the cause they may be representing. In each of these scenarios the rationale is not one born of the typical aspects of slave morality and is a recognition of the fluxical nature of the 'will to power' as Nietzsche would refer to it. It is also worth noting that the inherent replicatability issues of some of these also makes it difficult to ascribe as being represented as strictly slave morality, in each of these, with the exception of maybe monks since they are typically in an order where these are enforceable which means it will actually depend on the specific monk in question, the others are acting in such a way that separates them from the herd. This also falls under the particulars of life affirmation which recognize that reality and even what the individual is at an intrinsic level are neither fixed nor set in stone.

[Anonymous No.23343848]

>>23343167
He opposes it nominally, but reverts back into it whenever it feels convenient for him