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WHAT THE FUCK DID I FUCKING READ?

WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS BOOK?

Why does /lit/ hype kafka so much? This book is schizo material. I've desperately searched for some deaper meaning that could be hidden in this book for the past day since i read the book. I can't think of anything. Can someone help please?

>> No.23332913

>>23332904
This board has had a steady influx of midwits lately. Filtered and saged

>> No.23332915
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>>23332904
Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you… the plotfag.

>> No.23332922

>>23332904
Give it another read anon. Metamorphosis is kind of absurd, almost kafkian. It's not an easy one.

>> No.23332929

>>23332922
Finally a helpful reply.

I understood the book and all. I also understand a book being "Kafkaesque". And truly I was able to put myself in Gregor's shoes and experience it as I also have family that will come to depend on me. I just find no meaning in the suffereing he goes through!!??

What is it trying to tell me? Or is it not trying to tell me anything at all? Is it just like art to be experienced?

>> No.23332932

>>23332929
Experienced

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>>23332904
Everything good in art is subtle. Think about the story you would written if given the premise ‘guy transforms into a bug’, and compare its mood, its details, its sense of humour and its narrative voice with what you find in Kafka. That’s one way to appreciate him, and I think it’s truer to the spirit of his work than a search for hidden meanings; but some /it/ hermeneutists might disagree.

>> No.23332935

>>23332915
Mixed with an even worse entity: the messagefag

>> No.23332936

>>23332904
>waaah my family hates me and im gay waaaaah woe is meeee what if you woke up and were a bug waaaaaaaaaah
it's so fundamentally self-loathing and schizophrenic that i think only people with jewish blood will understand it.
if you didn't find it that meaningful or interesting then consider that a good thing, anon.

>> No.23332937

>>23332934
if I wrote metamorphosis I would have ended it with
>and the message is folks, being a bug is hard work. Be kind and share your bed with the bedbugs

>> No.23332963

>>23332904
What a terrible fucking cover.

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>>23332904
Don't worry, Dick. Come back to it again after you've explored why your feelings toward Christianity were misplaced a bit more.

>> No.23332991

>>23332904
It's about how people react so realistically to his transformation. Like the guy who tries to squash him like a bug. Or his family treating him less and less as a human like leaving out milk for him on a plate. Or his family moving on to marry his sister after he dies at the end. There's no direct message but it resonates because we could be shunned just as easily as him if we lost our jobs or crossed some social boundaries.

>> No.23333017

Why do midwits have so much trouble with this book?

>wagie gets unfortunate and turns into a bug
>family and friends instead of feeling sorry for him and caring for him are actually glad once he eventually dies

It shows how love that we have for our close ones is conditional. You can just replace being turned into a bug with some kind of disfigurement or disability and it becomes obvious, though ofcourse the metaphor is deeper than that.

>> No.23333028

>>23333017
Midwits don't understand that psychological realism by itself is one of the the most important parts of storytelling. Having a blatant allegory can actually hold a story back if the characters act like puppets just to fit the message.

>> No.23333050

>>23332904
All of Kafkas books have one singular goal, to make you, the reader, stop being a scared pussy ass bitch and to start grabbing live by the pussy.

>> No.23333276

>>23333017
the main character literally loves his family unconditionally

>> No.23333361

>>23332922
>Metamorphosis is kind of absurd, almost kafkian
Oh you

>> No.23333365

>>23333276
Anon said his family only loves him conditionally.

>> No.23333426

>>23332904
It's just a light comedy. Most people don't get it because the humour goes over their heads.

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>>23333365
Since you clearly cant read I recommend switching hobbies.
You might have more success with an activity like pic related

>> No.23333958

>>23333276
Main character does love them ""unconditionally"" because in the given situation he has noone else. He is a disgusting filthy overgrown cockroach that any person would squash on sight.

Meanwhile the situation is opposite for the family, they are constantly coping and memeing themselves into believing its not really him, so they dont have to feel guilty about letting him rot.

Once again, instead of imagining main character turning into a bug, imagine he is a quadriplegic who's face got burned in a freak accident. How would you act if that was your brother? Would you really love him just as you did before or would you deep inside actually be happy once he dies?

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>>23332904
Congrats anon, that means you lived a life without feeling like an insect even once

>> No.23334089

Main question this book should have you ask yourself is:

If my loved one turned a human sized cockroach tomorrow, how would I treat them?
And the answer is that for 99% of us, we would act just like the main characters family.

>> No.23334119

>>23332904
I'm low iq and understood this book when I was 13 and had to read it for school. Only sensitive young men can get it.

>> No.23334205

>>23332904
It's just a simple book about turning into a bug. No deeper meaning whatsoever anon.

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>>23333958
>>23334089
A cockroach is an insect that is flat in shape with large legs, and Gregor is anything but flat: he is convex on both sides, belly and back, and his legs are small. He approaches a cockroach in only one respect: his coloration is brown. That is all. Apart from this he has a tremendous convex belly divided into segments and a hard rounded back suggestive of wing cases. In beetles these cases conceal flimsy little wings that can be expanded and then may carry the beetle for miles and miles in a blundering flight. Curiously enough, Gregor the beetle never found out that he had wings under the hard covering of his back. (This is a very nice observation on my part to be treasured all your lives. Some Gregors, some Joes and Janes, do not know that they have wings.) Further, he has strong mandibles. He uses these organs to turn the key in a lock while standing erect on his hind legs, on his third pair of legs (a strong little pair), and this gives us the length of his body, which is about three feet long. In the course of the story he gets gradually accustomed to using his new appendages—his feet, his feelers. This brown, convex, dog-sized beetle is very broad.

In the original German text the old charwoman calls him Mistkäfer, a "dung beetle." It is obvious that the good woman is adding the epithet only to be friendly. He is not, technically, a dung beetle. He is merely a big beetle. (I must add that neither Gregor nor Kafka saw that beetle any too clearly.)

>> No.23334302

>>23332904
The hole point of this book is
>if you are depressed, sick or weirdo for some reason, you're alone. No one can truly understand you and they actually don't want to care about your fucking problem. Life is about loneliness

>> No.23334341

>>23332904
That can't be a real cover

>> No.23334366

>>23332929
You must be the oldest sibling to understand it.

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>>23332904
Don't be so overly kind and dependable that people take advantage of you, and through their own comfort make their own lives worse.

>> No.23334397

>>23332904
Filtered retard. Like damn bro I’m a ticking retard to but you didn’t at least get the obvious the “worker is a slave/bugman” commentary only tolerated for his work? And the hatred of disabled individuals because of their burden?