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>In some sense it may be said that this glorious Elizabethan Era with its Shakspeare, as the outcome and flowerage of all which had preceded it, is itself attributable to the Catholicism of the Middle Ages. The Christian Faith, which was the theme of Dante's Song, had produced this Practical Life which Shakspeare was to sing. For Religion then, as it now and always is, was the soul of Practice; the primary vital fact in men's life. And remark here, as rather curious, that Middle-Age Catholicism was abolished, so far as Acts of Parliament could abolish it, before Shakspeare, the noblest product of it, made his appearance. He did make his appearance nevertheless. Nature at her own time, with Catholicism or what else might be necessary, sent him forth; taking small thought of Acts of Parliament. King Henrys, Queen Elizabeths go their way; and Nature too goes hers.

>> No.23327142

This one is going to trigger the midwits.

>> No.23327259
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>Shakespeare was the greatest English Catholic poet/playwright of all time
>No, Shakespeare was obviously a Catholic, you retarded prots
>What do you mean by "A Declaration of Egregious Popish Impostures to With-Draw the Harts of Her Majesties Subjects From Their Allegeance, and From the Truth of Christian Religion Professed In England, Under the Pretence of Casting Out Devils"?
>No, Shakespeare was obviously a Catholic because I read this article that said that his sister was a secret Catholic
>It doesn't actually matter if Shakespeare was a Catholic or not, because he was a product of Catholic culture (YOU ARE HERE)
>Shakespeare might have been a Protestant, but even then he was a spiritual and cultural Catholic
>Shakespeare was a Protestant, but he was of the old guard. Fucking Prots don't even know anything about their own heretical religion. If they did, they'd know that the Protestantism of today is NOTHING like the Protestantism of Shakespeare's time, so to claim him is laughable.
>Protestantism back then was so young. It had JUST split off from the Church, so it was practically just Catholicism anyway. Protestants of today cannot claim Shakespeare because their heretical dogshit religion wouldn't even be recognized by the Protestants of Elizabethan England. Therefore, the only proper way to classify Shakespeare is as a Catholic. Sure, an erring Catholic, but still a Catholic at the end of the day.
>Yes, Martin Luther, too, was a Catholic. You don't know your own religion, as we all know. He was a CATHOLIC for 34 years of his life, you get that? He spent the better part of his life as a CATHOLIC.
>Yes, of course. Seeing as Martin Luther was a product of Catholic culture, it does follow that Catholics can claim everything he wrote as well. He may have caused one of the most devastating events in the history of the Church, but he was indeed a Catholic. His writings ARE Catholic in nature.
>Shakespeare and Martin Luther were Catholics. For that matter, Edmund Spenser was a Catholic, too. And Calvin as well, of course.

>> No.23327311

>>23327259
You're missing the point.

>I cannot call this Shakspeare a "Sceptic," as some do; his indifference to the creeds and theological quarrels of his time misleading them. No: neither unpatriotic, though he says little about his Patriotism; nor sceptic, though he says little about his Faith. Such "indifference" was the fruit of his greatness withal: his whole heart was in his own grand sphere of worship (we may call it such); these other controversies, vitally important to other men, were not vital to him.

It's a question of cultural context, and the milieu out of which Shakespeare molded his art was that of the "autumntide of the middle ages." The case of Luther is a false analogy because Luther was not an "indifferent" artist but a concerned theologian.

>> No.23327312

>>23327126
This, my friend, is what we call a massive cope. Pure verbal masturbation directed toward the end of self soothing after realizing reality invalidates their erroneous preconceptions.

>> No.23327406

>>23327312
Carlyle wasn't even Christian you retard, he preferred Protestantism too.

>> No.23327448

>>23327406
I didn't even mention Christianity. You just projected that because even you know how profoundly embarrassing and pretentious tradlarpers are.

>> No.23327692

>>23327312
>>23327448
Not an argument.

>> No.23327700

>>23327126
Shakespeare obviously came from a Catholic family.
https://thedebrief.org/digital-research-just-uncovered-a-family-secret-of-the-worlds-most-famous-playwright/

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>>23327692
>Anonymous 04/27/24(Sat)04:05:16 No.23327692▶
>>>23327312 (You)
>>>23327448 (You)
>Not an argument.

>> No.23327745

>>23327700
>>23327259
>>No, Shakespeare was obviously a Catholic because I read this article that said that his sister was a secret Catholic