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>shits on other forms of socialism as utopian
>those other forms of socialism were actually much more practical
>communism is actually the most utopian socialism of all
damn. it was all a lie. real socialism was never tried

>> No.23297857

>>23297841
Did you read the book?

>> No.23297880

>>23297841
>more practical
Were they?
To be fair, utopians clocked the scam of Leninism before the vast majority of scientific socialists. The kumbaya faction of utopian socialists won the superstructure. Fourier's feminism is the norm (women's rights as a reflection of progress) and his views on polyamory will soon become the norm as well.
It's a shame anarchists libtardwashed a deeply socially conservative man like Proudhon. He hated feminists and promiscuity with passion.

>> No.23297916

>>23297841
The only reason Communism took off is due to the fact that it came from direct demonic inspiration.

>> No.23297932

>didn't read it
>spergs out over what he schizoprenically imagines to be in it

>> No.23298424

>>23297880
rec me a book on fourier

>> No.23298603

>>23297841
marx’s ethics is predicated on phraseology, trying to get people to transfer their current intuitons of an existing word, or phrase’s conotation while changing the defintion; and a poor understanding of macroeconomics.

>> No.23298686

>>23297841
The left is better than the right. They both miss the mark.
But a system that at least tries for the right goal instead of one that gives up and doubles down on the horror that's killing our world, is better.
Fuck money

>> No.23298927

>>23297841
>real socialism was never tried
neither was real fascism

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23299003

>>23298424

>> No.23299151

>>23297841
>>23297857
>>23297880
>>23297916
>>23297932
>>23298424
>>23298603
>>23298686
>>23298927
>>23299003
>you know realized that the fascists and nazis were unintentionally the real socialists

>> No.23299245

>>23299003
anon thats just a book with fourier in it.
thanks though

>> No.23299254

>>23299245
Saint-Simon too, look it up

>> No.23299351

>>23298424
The theory of the four movements

>> No.23299694

Im not sure I would agree that its "more utopian". It seems to me like it just dresses it up and builds an elaborate construct of theory and systems around the problems of "utopian socialism" in order to obfuscate them, but doesn't actually solve the central problems, so ultimately its just as much of a useless pipe dream, not really more or less