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Apparently it's a masterpiece by John Milton that focuses on Satan's lore in the bible and tries to explain his actions. What should i read to acquire sufficient background to not be filtered and understand what's going on in this poem?

>> No.23294664
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>>23294602
better watch the cartoon adaptation.

>> No.23294692

>>23294664
>cartoon/anime/kid' show
Get off this board.

>> No.23294701

>>23294692
it's not my fault that the sequel for Paradise Lost was made as a cartoon because that's what hot amongst the kids these days. complain about them, not me.

>> No.23294795

>>23294602
The Bible

>> No.23294841

>>23294664
I find this art style unpleasant to look at, but I can't articulate why.

>> No.23294902

>>23294841
because it was made by a demonically possessed spic from UCLA

>> No.23294978

>>23294602
>focuses on Satan's lore in the bible and tries to explain his actions
No. That’s what atheists project onto Milton. Milton tells you what he’s doing on the first page:
>And chiefly thou O Spirit, that dost prefer
>Before all temples the upright heart and pure,
>Instruct me, for thou know’st; thou from the first
>Wast present, and with mighty wings outspread
>Dove-like sat’st brooding on the vast abyss
>And mad’st it pregnant: what in me is dark
>Illumine, what is low raise and support;
>That to the height of this great argument
>I may assert eternal providence,
>And justify the ways of God to men.

He’s justifying the ways of God. He’s not justifying the ways of Satan. Satan is depicted the way he is because Milton was writing to people who understood that Satan isn’t a repulsive leper. Satan is a seductive leper, and Milton uses this as a literary device. Readers who interpret Satan to be the “good guy” in this story are proving Milton’s point. Satan is depicted as a childish rebel who abhors the natural order. Secular modernity identifies this childish rejection of the natural order as “progress” and thus views Satan as being in the right.

>> No.23294980

>>23294795
Based Bible reccomendor

>> No.23295030

>>23294602
The Greek and Latin poetry available to Milton.
In terms of rhetorical command, I sincerely believe Milton to be the English writer with the widest range. Shakespeare was the better writer, but Milton was outstandingly more learned.

>> No.23295094

>>23294602
>What should i read to acquire sufficient background to not be filtered and understand what's going on in this poem?
Lecture 6 of Carlyle's "On Heroes...", the one on Cromwell

>> No.23295127

>>23295030
>The Greek and Latin poetry available to Milton.
I'm afraid that going to such lengths would be require much more time than i am willing to allocate to reading literature... is there no summary by which i can go to satisfy the baseline of necessary knowledge and understanding?

>> No.23295147

>>23295127
he was writing perfectly idiomatic Latin hexameters as a teenager studying undergrad at Cambridge.

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>>23295147

>> No.23295235

>>23295127
>>23295147
>>23295159
Milton was outstanding even for his time. He is one of the few writers who is his own culture.
(This is why the King James Version is outstandingly sublime. Those translators may as well have been composing parodies of Homer by age 12 with their education!)