/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23292287]

Recommend some books which convincingly debunk (or meaningfully discredit, at least) the Jewish Question.

[Anonymous No.23292341]

>>23292287
To Eliminate the Opiate by Marvin Anselman (or something)

[Anonymous No.23292558]

[Anonymous No.23292639]

>>23292558
lol

[Anonymous No.23292684]

>>23292287
Who needs "debunking" books when every western government enforces Jewish interests above and over their majority White Christian populations.

[Anonymous No.23292687]

>>23292684
Just need some examples of literary attempts to refute the JQ. I'm a firm believer in it, but I'd like to explore how theorists and academicians try to cope their way out of acknowledging Jewish power.

[Anonymous No.23293800]

>>23292687
One thing I've not been able to reconcile is critical race theory, and those who created it are, I believe, all Jews, or mostly. Like, if whites are, why aren't Jews considered privileged? They're 100 times more "privileged" than whites, yet only whites are discriminated against. One rebuttal is that Jews benefit from white privilege, and they themselves are white, but, as aforementioned, they aren't being discriminated against. They aren't white, however. They differ culturally, genetically, historically, religiously, and onomastically. Please prove me wrong, as I'm struggling with this. And no one is talking about this, not even Jordan Peterson, despite it being blatant, and himself speaking against affirmative action, etc.Critical race theory is nebulous and therefore very unscientific of course, as he has said, like the idea that inter-personal discrimination is the dominant driving force behind outcome differences. How do you measure that? Blacks differ in outcomes at every economic level, such as crimes; rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites. How does one reconcile that, as it defies the theory absolutely?

Clown world.

[Anonymous No.23293835]

>>23292287
What's to debunk?

Jews, because of their culture and perhaps biology, are generally more competent than non-Jews, so they get better paying positions.

Non jews then get jealous and attack them. Accuse them of being "shifty" or "manipulating" when they're not really doing anything any more shifty than anyone else. Course there are shifty elite Jews just as there are shifty elite non Jews, being elite generally means being shifty.

It's really not more complicated than that. Just listen to Hitler's speeches. All he does is cry that the Jews have higher positions than German peasants.

The same racial jealousy is replicated with blacks/whites.

[Anonymous No.23293865]

>>23293835
they aren't more competent, their iq is actually pretty much the same as whites, or even lower in israel, there are so few of them that to not be so disproportionately represented they would have to be some kind of 300 iq ascended übermensch that we can't comprehend which obviously isn't true.

[Anonymous No.23293890]

>>23293865
Nobody's stopping you from becoming a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, an investment analyst, a business owner.

Jews were hated minorities in the countries they lived in, and yet they still managed to accomplish a lot. If that's not superior competence then it's magic.

>James Harris Simons (born 25 April 1938) is an American hedge fund manager, investor, mathematician, and philanthropist.[3] He is the founder of Renaissance Technologies, a quantitative hedge fund based in East Setauket, New York. He and his fund are known to be quantitative investors, using mathematical models and algorithms to make investment gains from market inefficiencies. Due to the long-term aggregate investment returns of Renaissance and its Medallion Fund, Simons is described as the "greatest investor on Wall Street", and more specifically "the most successful hedge fund manager of all time".[4][5][6]

What's stopping you from becoming like him?

[Anonymous No.23293927]

>>23293890
you're not providing any argument
jews are shown to not be more competent or superior in any way, yet they are very disproportionately represented in a lot of positions, this is almost undoubtedly due to things like nepotism especially since said positions are prone to it aswell, lawyers, business, media, politics, they are all positions that aren't so much about intellectual competency or natural born skill. but having the right networks, being born into it, having money to start with.
politicians and cops are also hated minorities, that doesn't make them any less powerful or make them some kind of inherently dysfunctional environment where there are no ladders in place. perhaps they are hated minorities precisely because of these things

[Anonymous No.23293970]

>>23293927
lmfao
>Nepotism
Nepotism only matters if you have good relatives. If your whole family are fucking junkies they will "nepotise" you into working at McDonald's if you're lucky.
>jews are shown to not be more competent or superior in any way
You're arguing based on IQ alone. You're assuming IQ is a perfect measure of competence and then making inferences on that. Even that is fucking stupid because Ashkenazi Jews do have above average IQs lmao whether you like it or not.
>lawyers, business, media, politics, they are all positions that aren't so much about intellectual competency or natural born skill. but having the right networks, being born into it, having money to start with.
Just loser cope once more. East Asians in the US graduate from good unis, get good jobs, live bourgeois lives above the standard of the average American. Do you really believe East Asians have "deep networks"?

Explain how James Harris Simons who became a billionaire by applying his mathematical knowledge to exploit weaknesses in financial markets was just whisked to the top because of "nepotism".
>oh, oh, but he's the exception
cope.


Basically your argument is: "I would also be a billionaire, were it not for my moral superiority!"

I don't care though. I'm not a Jew so you can believe what you want. Be as resentful as you want.

[Anonymous No.23294016]

>>23293970
you sound passive aggressive for some reason and call me resentful for no reason

jews do have deep networks compared to asians, they've been in the west for 2000 years without ever integrating in the peasantry, asians aren't as overrepresented in things like media and politics the way jews are, assuming the 110~ average iq of jews is true then it wouldn't be enough to not be disproportionate like i said, there would still be like 100 other whites who had the same iq or general competency, you don't seem to understand numbers in this context

i don't know why you are bringing up like one guy being smart, its irrelevant to the points made, i'm not denying smart jews exist or anything

[Anonymous No.23294023]

>>23293970
anyone can just post some random guy who made it from nowhere, you're still yet to prove this magical jewish competency exists that definitely isn't nepotism, gatekeeping and in-group preference

[Anonymous No.23294060]

>>23294016
>>23294023
>I too would be successful, but my moral superiority prevents me.
Alright break’s over get back to mopping floors wagie

[Anonymous No.23294069]

High Jewish SES wouldn't matter if they saw their interests as identical to Whites'.

[Anonymous No.23294087]

>>23294060
so the only thing you have is a strawman?

[Anonymous No.23294123]

>>23294087
How is it a strawman? You’re literally saying the reason Jews are successful is because they’re morally inferior. That whatever group you identify with - I assume it is the “whites” - is just as capable as the Jews, but they can’t compete because… they’re just too virtuous. Of course it’s all bullshit. The economy is a merciless knife fight where companies do their best to scramble to the top. There is no altruism. Anyone who is capable and determined and lucky will succeed. Nobody is stopping your group - the “whites” - from being just as successful, just as elite. But they can’t do it. And I really, really doubt it’s just because they’re too altruistic to do it.

[Anonymous No.23294153]

>>23294123
>You’re literally saying the reason Jews are successful is because they’re morally inferior. That whatever group you identify with - I assume it is the “whites” - is just as capable as the Jews, but they can’t compete because… they’re just too virtuous.
thats just your interpretation of what i'm saying, even if it was you're not making any case to the contrary anyways, so you just get mad and act like thats an argument

if according to you jews are in their positions in media and politics because of their inherent superior abilities then prove it

[Anonymous No.23294167]

>>23294123
>jews cant be nepotistic and have in-group preference, because.. umm they just cant okay?!

[Anonymous No.23294173]

jewish intelligence and competency is a total myth and nobody has ever proven it

[Anonymous No.23294189]

>>23294167
Of course they can and do. What I object to is this absurd assertion that Jews are in high positions purely because of that. It makes no sense from the beginning. Nepotism only works if you have powerful connections. So if the Jews have no superior competence how did they manage to get these powerful connections? A Jewish boy gets hired at his uncles financial firm after graduating uni - ok, but what explains why his uncle was able to own a successful financial firm in the first place? If nepotism explains that, then what explains the success of the uncle’s connection? Eventually it has to just be superior competence, or, idk, fucking magic.

If non Jews could be as successful as Jews they would be. Nobody wants to work in factories. Everybody would be happy if their sons were doctors, lawyers, engineers, business owners. The idea that whites (or whatever group you identify with) are capable of being just as successful but choose not to out of some principled stance against nepotism is laughable.

[Anonymous No.23294201]

>>23294189
you still can't seem to grasp basic fucking numbers, like a nigger who doesn't get per capita
i think at this point you must an offended jew because you are so unwilling to accept the points made
there are not more jews in these positions
they are DISPROPORTIONATELY REPRESENTED, not BECAUSE OF SKILL, but BECAUSE OF NEPOTISM AND IN-GROUP PREFERENCE, they also had a different starting point because JEWS WERE NEVER PART OF THE PEASANTRY and HELD SPECIAL STATUS IN THE EUROPEAN HIERARCHIES
i put caps on the important parts so you might be a bigger chance of acknowledging them

[Anonymous No.23294220]

>>23294189
nobody is saying jews are dumb on average, there is a meme stat about jewish average iq being 113 as opposed to white 101, if that was true then it still isn't enough for the disproportionate representation they have, because there are so few jews, this is mentioned like 3 times in the thread but you just seethe and want to talk a big game about some jewish gigabrain myth and whites being weak and pathetic in comparison with no evidence, even if jews are smarter they aren't as smart as they have to be, therefore its not their smarts, its their culture and ingroup preference, similar to how indians are taking over tech jobs because a few of them are hiring only their own ethnics

[Anonymous No.23294225]

>>23294201
Yeah you have no idea how anything works like a nigger who thinks the whites are in high positions and he’s in the ghetto because of racism or “the legacy of slavery”. Even blacks don’t go back so far in history when looking for an explanation of their inferiority.

Fact is, there is nothing, NOTHING, preventing whites from competing with Jews fairly in business and in politics at every level. There is NOTHING preventing white families from sending their sons to university and making them into doctors, engineers, financiers, etc. and building up their own web of connections. The idea that whites are not doing this because they’re morally superior is retarded.

[Anonymous No.23294236]

>>23294220
>NOOOO THE INDIANS ARE HIRING THEIR OWN
Stop fucking crying you pathetic fucking pansy. God I’m sick of you people. Start your own software company like Jewish entrepreneurs did with Google and OpenAI. Build your skills. Build your web of connections. Become bourgeois. Rise the social ladder. Stop fucking whining like a bitter resentful nigger.

[Anonymous No.23294249]

>>23294225
and this is your entire argument, an immature meme of DUDE WHITE PEOPLE ARE JUST LIKE BLACKS TALKING ABOUT WHITE PEOPLE WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT JEWS XD THE WORLD IS INHERENTLY JUST AND FAIR!
you don't even grasp the basic math, you either are baiting or genuinely retarded
even if jews were 120 iq on average, there are so much more whites that the number of high iq whites far exceed the number of high iq jews, jews are not "doing better" in society, but they are disproportionately represented regarding their population numbers, in things like law and media, this is explained by nepotism and jewish in-group preference, which they will often tell you about themselves.
i don't even call it morally wrong, those are your words, the only thing you have is retarded strawmen and some imagined placeholder edge jews have that (that for some reason isn't nepotism and in-group preference) you can't and won't prove exists.

[Anonymous No.23294251]

>>23294236
israel should stop crying and beg for weapons and help from the west, maybe they should start their own civilization for once

[Anonymous No.23294255]

>>23294249
Yeah Jews started google because of nepotism. No skill involved. Anyone could do it really. Just had to have an uncle who preferred hiring his nephew over someone else. That easy.

[Anonymous No.23294258]

>>23292287
I just think people should point out jewish power and over representation, and be able to clearly disintinguish it from whiteness, and be able to challenge the questionable ways they use that power, and they should be able to do this all without being penalized or debanked

[Anonymous No.23294259]

>>23294255
when has somebody claimed jews can't be smart or start something? are you ever going to actually argue the points and make an argument?

[Anonymous No.23294280]

>>23294258
>penalised and debanked
Difference is Jews don’t do this. They simply get into positions of power through starting businesses, going to law school, etc.. Nazis start “pointing out” why this is supposedly bad and it leads to actual penalisation and debanking in 100x more brutal fashion than what you’re referring to as what happened under Hitler

[Anonymous No.23294293]

>>23294280
yes they clearly do this. kanye got debanked and contracts by pointing out jewish business practices. if he had made the exact same criticisms using the adjective white instead of jewish he would not have. all critics of jews, fuentes, anglin, dawson, have to do shit like find native american banks to be able to have a bank account. support for israel and gradually criminalizing antisemitism is the only thing both political parties can agree on, because of the pervasiveness of jewish lobbying. that advocates laws for people pointing it out

[Anonymous No.23294298]

>>23294280
you haven't won one argument in this thread and it took one reply to you to make you cry about people being jealous/resentful/hateful towards jews, if you want people to turn away from the jewish question i suggest you stop posting because you're terrible at this.

[Anonymous No.23294316]

>>23294016
>they've been in the west for 2000 years without ever integrating in the peasantry

They were explicitly prohibited from integrating into the peasantry, by the ruling western institutions (i.e. the Catholic church), lest they convert to Christianity and surrender their ethnic roots and culture. Feudal Europe's caste system kept them below the peasantry by design, it's no wonder they found enlightenment ideals like liberalism, and then subversive ones like Marxism so liberating and appealing.

[Anonymous No.23294322]

>>23294316
>below the peasantry by design
you mean above

[Anonymous No.23294354]

>>23294280
Don't even bother with them, brother.
It's like Spengler said in one of his books: as society and the economy gets more and more complex the gap between the work the rulers do versus the work the slaves do gets so big that the slaves don't even understand their masters. They start getting resentful and thinking the masters aren't doing anything of worth, even though complex industrial societies rely on intelligent people to organise it all and the slaves are basically just cogs in the machine.
When our ancestors entered into fair, non-coercive, agreed-upon contracts with Europeans, those white peasants probably didn't even have the acumen to calculate interest rates. They thought we were ripping them off, even though they had agreed to those rates.
It's the same thing now. The people you're dealing with probably work low-level in some company that is owned in part by Jews, who made good life decisions to get where they are. But because the gap is so large they think those Jewish bosses got there unfairly "through nepotism" and are just parasites.
We don't have to worry about this anymore. We have a safe haven in Israel. Nobody can defeat us; we could literally take on China on our own, maybe even the USA. And as a last resort we have nuclear weapons to act as a deterrent. We will never be at the mercy of these dumb gentiles again.

[Anonymous No.23294363]

>>23293890
People like you seem schizophrenic. Nobody is talking about them being doctors and engineers or themselves? Nobody complains about this. People are shining a light on the very real fact that these people are a big cause for mass immigration into white nations, modern diets, demoralising media, the porn industry and countless of recent wars, especially tragedies like the Iraq war which the Israeli lobby played a big part in perpetuating.
You’re not genuine in your approach to the OP.

[Anonymous No.23294370]

>>23294293
>a few nazis got debanked
>vs millions of people displaced, debanked, maybe even killed if their ideas got to power
Sounds like an easy moral calculation to me

[Anonymous No.23294376]

>>23294370
they arent talking about killing people, they are pointing out the pervasiveness of jewish power and overrepresentation, distinguishing it from whiteness, and criticizing the detrimental ways they use that power. They should be able to do this without being penalized or debanked. people need to be able to challenge power to keep it in check its the foundation of america

[Anonymous No.23294397]

>>23294354
White people aren’t really angry with you because some of you are rich, that’s such a scapegoat. You are being criticised for the fact that you’re destroying the west by ruining their nations and cultures after they helped you found your own nation.

[Anonymous No.23294404]

>>23294363
>>23294376
>these people
That's exactly your problem. There are Jews who do things you don't like (say, the Israel lobby) and therefore you attack "these people" in general. It's like saying Italians are responsible for organised crime. There are Jews who supported the war in Iraq BUT THERE ARE ALSO NON-JEWISH NEOCONS WHO SUPPORTED IT, as well as JEWS (e.g. Noam Chomsky) WHO OPPOSED IT.

Why don't you oppose THINGS YOU DISAGREE WITH and not an entire group of people? That way, you include in your criticism people who aren't in that group who support the things you disagree with, as well as excluding from your criticism those who are in the group but do not support it.

I'll tell you why you don't do it: All this has ever been is an attempt to rob and kill the Jews out of racial jealousy.

[Anonymous No.23294421]

>>23294354
kek at this post

[Anonymous No.23294423]

>>23294404
criticizing neocons doesnt lead to you losing your job or get you debanked. criticizing whites does not. criticizing jews does, which is wrong and is also evidence of them having too much power and them using it in ways to increase their power, as an ethnic group, to the detriment of others

[Anonymous No.23294448]

>>23294280
Fortunately there's now a nuclear-armed Jewish state to mitigate this

[Anonymous No.23294467]

>>23294404
Ok (a noticeable subset of these people that have been planning this for hundreds of years which all happen to be Jewish), I didn’t say semites, I said “these people” referring to that group. I don’t hate some random middle class person on the street that happens to be of Jewish ancestry. Racial jealousy? You are acting absurd. I just wish your “neo-cons” didn’t send an army of third worlders annd rape gangs into my country after we helped you.

[Anonymous No.23294469]

>>23294220
A difference in 13 points would have massive impact at the tails, but yes Jews didn't give up their in-group preferences either because they weren't civilized by the Catholic church. That also happens to be why they are disproportionately comedians.
>>23294354
>We have a safe haven in Israel. Nobody can defeat us; we could literally take on China on our own, maybe even the USA.
https://theintercept.com/2024/04/15/iran-attack-israel-drones-missiles/
Try defending your own airspace first maybe. Baby steps.

[Anonymous No.23294483]

>>23294173
Chess is fake
Nobel prizes are fake
Kyoto prizes are fake

[Anonymous No.23294495]

>>23294467
Really? Everyone who supported the Iraq war "happened to be Jewish"?

[Anonymous No.23294500]

>>23294483
>chess
whatever
>nobel prizes
fake indeed
>kyoto prizes
fake indeed

[Anonymous No.23294507]

>>23294423
Losing your job? Try losing your economy. After Iceland attempted to ban genital mutilation of infant boys the ADL sent them a threat that they’d ruin their tourism industry if they’d commit to that.
This world is ruled by evil.
>>23294495
Not what I said

[Anonymous No.23294519]

>>23294507
Yeah reading about circumcision was more than enough to make me antisemitic, and yet white niggers are doing it to themselves because America and protestanism are talmudic.

[Anonymous No.23294520]

>>23294483
>chess is fake
This isn't even remotely controversial, did you forget the vibrating buttplug scandal recently?

[Anonymous No.23295837]

>>23292287
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR STEALTH POL THREADS, GLOWIE (OR BRAINWASHED GLOWIE THRALL)!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.23295840]

>>23293800
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.23295874]

>>23292287
I can't do it.

[Anonynous No.23295877]

>>23292287
>>23292687
>Just need some examples of literary attempts to refute the JQ. I'm a firm believer in it,
Yeah, that's how normal people talk.

Is OP the same guy I trounced in the Culture Of Conspiracy Thread?

[Anonymous No.23295901]

>>23292287
Nietzsches Jewish Problem, I forget who it's by. But it's good and fair. Nietzsche fell into a lot of anti Semitic pitfalls without going full tilt, so it's a good case study in what leads people there.

[Anonymous No.23295903]

>>23295877
No; that was me. I did not post this OP.
Maybe, hear me out: maybe your ideas are unpopular, becoming more unpopular, and some anons are growing up, realizing what they've done wrong in their lives, and reflecting on it? Seeing as it's unending the social fabric of basically every country.

[Anonymous No.23295909]

>>23293890
It doesn't explain everything but in medieval Europe, usury was not allowed to be practiced by Christians. The stereotype of Jews as moneylenders is entirely historically accurate and is an example of an area where Jews succeeded off of the back of something that had nothing to do with a superior work ethic, culture, genetic expression etc.

[Anonymous No.23295915]

>>23293800
I think the blunt answer (just my hunch) is the fact that they can hide behind the jew card when they're called white and the fact that people have been brainwashed already. If somebody calls out a jew for whatever reason and they call them privileged, they will just call them an antisemite and shut down all discussion. Now however, we've seen with the Israel-Palestine thing how that narrative isn't as rock solid as they once thought

[Anonymous No.23295923]

>>23293835
>All he does is cry that the Jews have higher positions than German peasants
Nice of you to omit the part where they actively subverted society, promoted prostitution, backed transgenderism and fucked over the economy with their sleazy usury. Thank you for the honest discussion, anon! Very cool

[Anonymous No.23295939]

>>23294189
Nobody said a jew can't succeed on his own, faggot. I can't tell if you're being wilfully ignorant or that you genuinely don't get it. The fact that the uncle in your scenario managed to get a job at a law firm doesn't negate the fact that the uncle can and probably will be nepotistic, just like every other jew. Keep that loop going over time and you get the jewish stereotype. What is so hard to understand about that?

[Anonymous No.23295941]

>>23295939
White colonialism was one large scale nepotism cult