/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23286482]

>Flannery O’Connor
the queen of Southern Gothic

[Anonymous No.23286489]

>>23286482
Mid

[Anonymous No.23286493]

Not too sure about that one

[Anonymous No.23286525]

>>23286493
indereßtang

[Anonymous No.23286529]

she was a racist chud, no thanks

[Anonymous No.23286549]

>>23286482
>>23286529
>tradlarpers keep recommending her
>read The Artificial Nigger for the memes
>it’s actually a good story
I shall never doubt again.

[Anonymous No.23286563]

>>23286549
'The Artificial Gentleman of Dark Complexion' is peak Southern kino. Same with 'The Life You Save May Be Your Own' and 'Good Country People'.
>>23286493
An ugly dyke would never beat our Catholic queen.

[Anonymous No.23286573]

>>23286563
You will never be trad.

[Anonymous No.23286582]

>>23286573
Already am, faggot. You'll never survive AIDS.

[Anonymous No.23286584]

>>23286582
>t.

[Anonymous No.23286594]

>>23286584
>t.

[Anonymous No.23286684]

>>23286482
Based Mama Flan Flan. She has been our sole queen since this board's inception and the only woman who was ever able to write anything of substance. Blessed be her name.

>>23286493
This bitch had one largely forgettable novel and a few others literally no one has read. To put her on the same level as our eternal queen is blasphemous.

[Anonymous No.23286688]

>>23286684
Lmao how many great novels did mommy Flannery write? A fat ZERO lmao. The woman couldn't write anything decent above 50 pages.

[Anonymous No.23286695]

OBLIGATORY REMINDER:

The Violent Bear It Away>Wise Blood

[Anonymous No.23286841]

I refuse to read anything written by a wAmerican

[Anonymous No.23286906]

>>23286482
It's probably just the glasses with that haircut but she looks like a non-ugly version of Simone Weil.

[Anonymous No.23286943]

I COULD have saved her, bros ;_;

[Anonymous No.23286950]

>>23286943
She had lupus...

[Anonymous No.23286963]

>>23286950
I SHOULD have done more ;_;

[Anonymous No.23286985]

>>23286906
It is the glasses & hairstyle combination, without them her irish ancestry is glaring & undeniable. Still, despite being a catholic mick potatonigger, she was a real qt in her youth, imo
>>23286688
short stories are superior to novels

[Anonymous No.23287186]

>>23286688
She wrote 2 novels, both better than anything McCullers ever wrote

[Anonymous No.23287500]

>>23286584
He does look Nordic as fuck though

[Anonymous No.23287504]

>>23286688
Wise Blood and The Violent Bear It Away are so great that my only takeaway from your post is that you haven’t read them. You might have even not heard of them

[Anonymous No.23287506]

>>23286549
Read The Lame Shall Enter First

[Anonymous No.23287677]

Is she good or is just a “well we gotta include women in this genre somehow here how about this one she wrote some stuff” type meme? I enjoy McCarthy (mostly just Suttree but the rest was okay too) love Faulkner loved Matthiessen’s shadow country, should I give her a chance?

[Anonymous No.23287688]

>>23286684
I read The Member of the Wedding and it was cute.

[Anonymous No.23287700]

>>23287677
She's genuinely good.

[Anonymous No.23287719]

>>23286482
Fun fact: Robert Fitzgerald (the translator of Homer) and his wife were friends with Flannery O'Connor, and Robert wrote a 34-page introduction for the 1st edition of the posthumous book 'Everything That Raises Must Converge'. It reads more like a homage to Flannery, both the person and the writer, than a dry academic introduction.

[Anonymous No.23287902]

>>23287500
Nords had chins

[Anonymous No.23287906]

>>23286482
Meh
>>23286493
One good novel but it's very good

[Anonymous No.23287930]

>>23287906
Her best stuff by far is her short stories.

A Good Man is Hard to Find, Enoch and the Gorilla, Good Country People, that's where she really shines.

[Anonymous No.23287932]

>>23287930
>Good Country People
Good but overhyped

[Anonymous No.23287975]

>>23286482
i thought the river was just a nihilistic tragedy until my catholic professor told me that the point is the kid was better off dead. theologically it makes sense but something about it still doesn't sit right with me

[Anonymous No.23287979]

>>23287932
how can a short story be 'overhyped'?
kys

[Anonymous No.23287998]

>>23287719
Robert Fitzgerald’s sons, Michael and Benedict, wrote the script for the film adaptation of Wise Blood. Benedict also co-wrote the script for The Passion Of The Christ.
The Wise Blood film has a Kathy Fitzgerald listed as producer, I’m not sure if/how she’s related.

[Anonymous No.23288003]

>>23286584
lmao. assuming they are white is a bit of a stretch though

[Anonymous No.23288006]

>>23287902
He’s of the Prussian German ethnicity

[Anonymous No.23288012]

>>23286584
Looks more like anglo or slav trash lmao

[Anonymous No.23288024]

>>23286985
Cute little paddycracker. She reminds me of a former coworker who was also Irish, and a colossal slut

[Anonymous No.23288027]

>>23287677
Check out "The Life You Save May Be Your Own" or "Good Country People" to get a good idea of her style and themes. She is absolutely a great writer and resists being put into that box of "we need more women in the canon" given that she was conservative and religious and her views on race are far too nuanced to jive with the current progressive orthodoxy.

[Anonymous No.23288223]

>>23287979
rude
Do you really not understand what overhyped means?

[Anonymous No.23288704]

>>23288027
>The Life You Save May Be Your Own
just read it

very similiar to "a good man is hard to find," she seems to like to write about the idea of men who can be saved.

[Anonymous No.23288742]

>>23286482
One of the very few female American writers I'd have liked to fuck.

[Anonymous No.23288744]

>>23286493
Whomst?

[Anonymous No.23288773]

>>23286529
Based 2018 virtue signaler

[Anonymous No.23288838]

the dick you suck may be your own

[Anonymous No.23289154]

>>23288027
>"Good Country People"
Erik Langkjaer, the fellow who was likely the source for "Manley Pointer": https://www.jstor.org/stable/26671109

He's also mentioned in the notes of the Library of America Selected Flannery volume, if memory serves (I don't have it handy atm).

I thought this was quite an interesting article about FOC's perspective on Freud and Jung: https://www.jstor.org/stable/26467187

>>23286482
In addition to her fiction, her volume of essays, Mystery and Manners, and selected letters, The Habit of Being, are both great. (The LoA volume has one or more essays that aren't in M&M, and also letters that weren't included in HoB -- in both cases, very choice selections; indicative of the top-notch editorial work on that volume.)

The book "Flannery O'Connor: In Celebration of Genius," Sarah Gordon, ed. (Athens, GA: Hill Street Press, 2000), is a mixed bag, but it includes one outstanding item: a short story titled "Dear Flannery" by Nancy Mairs that is a pitch-perfect fictional imagining of an encounter with FOC sitting on her Andalusia porch.

>>23287719
>Robert wrote a 34-page introduction for the 1st edition of the posthumous book 'Everything That Raises Must Converge'.
I've somehow missed that over the years. Need to track it down. Couldn't locate the text, or a pdf, online. Please drop a link, if anyone has one.

[Anonymous No.23289159]

>>23289154
>I've somehow missed that over the years. Need to track it down. Couldn't locate the text, or a pdf, online. Please drop a link, if anyone has one.
Sure thing, brother. Here's the pdf:
https://file.io/Bt50EFIHIx9j

[Anonymous No.23289218]

>>23289159
Excellent. Thanks very much.

[Anonymous No.23289839]

>>23286684
>>23287906
>This bitch had one largely forgettable novel
>One good novel
I and most people regard The Member of the Wedding as her most complete novel—THIALH is just the most successful. Reflections in a Golden Eye is also on par with THIALH but doesn't get the recognition still because prudes couldn't see she was ahead of her time.

>>23287504
Read both of them and they are lost on any reader who isn't a braindead Catholic. GOOD short stories but shit novels.