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[Anonymous No.23250202]

>Creates the Dutch version of Icelandic language and calls it his own super original language
>Heh, you can't criticize me, I made an entire language :^)

[Anonymous No.23250206]

>>23250202
What do you mean Dutch version?

[Anonymous No.23250221]

>>23250206
Dutch is German with a hot potato in your mouth.

[Anonymous No.23250252]

>>23250221
Zeg dat tegen mijn gezicht en ik sla je verrot

[Anonymous No.23250270]

>>23250202
>He invented, like, many languages, bro! All out of thin air!

[Anonymous No.23250355]

>>23250270
Tún means backyard meadow in Old Norse

[Anonymous No.23250361]

>>23250355
Do you know Old Norse? I’ve been interested in learning it

[Anonymous No.23250370]

>>23250202
who cares, it's still impressive and you're just a shitposting faggot

[Anonymous No.23250473]

>>23250355
Is this a word of the same origin as the German "Zaun", Icelandic "tun" and Swedish (gårds)tun, tun(träd)? It seems to me the limitation of an area is the central concept in it. It seems unrelated to hills or mounds.

[Anonymous No.23250492]

>>23250270
Can finns understand quenya or is it a meme, plus he has other languages like sindarin khuzdul, black speech so this isn't even remotely relevant.

[Anonymous No.23250497]

what's with all the Tolkien shitposting recently?

[Anonymous No.23250512]

>>23250492
Black speech is based on the hurrian language

[Anonymous No.23250519]

>>23250202
Quenya doesn't sound close to icelandic

[Anonymous No.23250520]

>>23250497
A change of air from the usual dickriding.

[Anonymous No.23250551]

>>23250361
I am learning it but I don't know it
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001017519
If you're going to try to learn Old Norse I recommend this textbook which is available for free but I don't think there are any good Old Norse textbooks in English
I'm up to chapter 20 now and I use NION as a supplement
One thing you have to realise going into the language is that sound changes are extremely important and you have to learn something of proto-Norse/proto-Germanic in order to make sense of the inflections
For example
Egill, Egil, Egils and Agli are all the same word in different cases
Rjúka, rýk, rauk and rokinn are all the same underlying verb
There is a rule called u-umlaut which states that the vowel U will transform preceding (stressed) A vowels into ǫ which is nice except that often the U vowel that caused this change has disappeared
For example the neuter noun barn, children, has the nominative singular form barn but the nominative plural form bǫrn
Old Norse is a pain in the ass but I want to know it
If the prospects of a deep dive into the Germanic languages excites you, you should learn it
>>23250473
Sorry I wasn't implying that they were cognates

[Anonymous No.23250571]

>>23250202
do you have permission to use that image?

[Anonymous No.23252064]

>>23250221
You're confusing Dutch for Danish.

[Anonymous No.23252735]

>>23250492
>Can finns understand quenya or is it a meme

It is very intuitive. Even something like The Silmarils (Quenya = Silmarilli) sounds essentially Finnish, but it is gibberish.

>Conceptual Development: The name ᴱQ. Silmaril dates back to the earliest Lost Tales (LT1/128). Christopher Tolkien suggested that at this early stage it was a compound of ᴱQ. Sil “Moon” and ᴱQ. marilla “pearl” (LT1A/Silmaril), which is consistent with its Gnomish cognate G. Silubrilt. In The Etymologies, the name ᴹQ. Silmaril appears as a combination of silma “silver, shining white” and the root ᴹ√RIL (Ety/RIL, SIL), similar to its later etymology.

Even though it is gibberish, it is still very intuitive use of Finnish style language. I mean I guess you could re-translate it to English as something like "Silveriöinen" and it would sound as good

[Anonymous No.23252761]

>>23250202
OP is yIntagh!

[Anonymous No.23252788]

>>23250202
>Frodo! De ring! Ploar em goddom' in dien vulkaan!
>Moar...er is sow moaj...

[Anonymous No.23252854]

>>23252064
what's the difference? they're both moroccan.

[Anonymous No.23253014]

>>23252788
nice one, I lol'd

[Anonymous No.23253025]

>>23250361
Here's a good resource...
https://jacksonwcrawford.com/

[Anonymous No.23253036]

>>23253025
He said he’s working on a book for self-learners of Old Norse. I think it comes out next year or the year after.

[Anonymous No.23253056]

>>23250270
This criticism makes no sense because he wasn't trying to create an original alien language. These are supposed to be prehistorical versions of historical languages of Earth. His Middle Earth is literally supposed to be prehistorical Europe. It's not a different world.

[Anonymous No.23253150]

>>23253056
There’s always a cope. And this take ignores the Indo-European language btw