/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.23247660]

Sci Fi Edition.

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[Anonymous No.23247690]

>>23247660
I've got nothing to read. I wanted to read some japanese literature like Genji, Senbonzakura and Goemon, but I can't seem to find it in english.

Other than that I just want to read some good "male fantasy" journey of the hero type of book. Just give me all the cliches. Old mentor that dies, romantic interest, will they won't they, travelling somewhere else for 500 pages, a past hidden from the main character, bad guy that loses, "this is the farthest I've been from farmtown smallplace" and so forth.

[Anonymous No.23247702]

>>23247690
Read reverend insanity

[Anonymous No.23247705]

>>23247702
I already did you fucking bugman. It doesn't fucking end because your communist government takes offense on the fact that you have a dog ferret named Mao.

[Anonymous No.23247718]

>>23246183
You're not a faggot for liking hardcovers, you are faggot for capitulating to the soulless modern day covers >>23246223 It is true, this needs to stop.
You could have easily obtained pic related, both first editions, but for some reason you chose folio society. Absolutely disgusting.

[Anonymous No.23247719]

>>23247705
>dog ferret mao
What? Anyway, most people think that the birthing temples was a step too far that finally made ccp take action.

[Anonymous No.23247724]

>>23247690
Revelations of Zang

[Anonymous No.23247734]

>>23247719
There's literally a ferret with dog tail that calls itself "Grandpa Mao", Mao Li Qiu and is the steed of Giant Sun. And the character in the name is the same in Mao Tse-Tung.

[Anonymous No.23247747]

>>23247690
Read Beyond Apollo

[Anonymous No.23247757]

>>23247690
Read Marrow and The Well of Stars; the entire Xeelee Sequence; the Radix Tetrad; do a 360 and you'll create mustard gas.

[Anonymous No.23247782]

Anyone here read Blindsight?

>>23246939

[Anonymous No.23247831]

>Writes a series that pretends to be sci-fi but it's actually just a cover for how women are destructive to society

[Anonymous No.23247859]

Certain books are just meant to be read in hardcover.

[Anonymous No.23247884]

>>23247660
Read:
>The Land of Broken Roads

[Anonymous No.23247992]

I finished my full re-read of Wheel of Time. Now I'm left with an empty feeling.
Now I have to find something new to read. An unpleasant process.

[Anonymous No.23247993]

>>23247747
No thanks

[Anonymous No.23247995]

>>23247782
Yes. But I don't remember much about it. What about it? Bruh, I just googled it, and saw it was categorized as "hard science fiction". That's a load of crap.

[Anonymous No.23248008]

got into an argument with the guy at the bookstore because I kept saying the store had no books
guy starts having a go at me and blaming the economy
but he has a store with no books. what a novel idea

I would have bought a fantasy book if this retard actually had any

[Anonymous No.23248031]

>>23247992
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?845+None

[Anonymous No.23248052]

>>23247992
Read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.23248121]

I only read books written by old white men.

[Anonymous No.23248138]

am i too stupid for liu cixin? i don't get some of the shit in these books
like, at first it's established that it takes four years for earth's radiowaves to reach trisolaris. then how the fuck is evans communicating directly with lord and how is luo ji negotiating with the trisolarans instantly? i know they're using the sophons, but wouldn't the sophons still need to relay the info back home? or are they like a chatbot AI just making decisions on behalf of the trisolarans? i really don't get how we went from messages taking years to IMing

[Anonymous No.23248142]

>>23247992
i can't decide who i have more contempt for in the media world, wheel of time fags or one piece fags
imagine wasting days of your life rereading some trash that wasn't worth reading to begin with

[Anonymous No.23248152]

>>23247782
Yes

[Anonymous No.23248159]

>>23248138
They use quantum entanglement to communicate instantly (which is bullshit)

[Anonymous No.23248187]

>>23248159
>aliens only slightly more advanced than humans
>nvm they're actually incredibly advanced, but somehow they can't travel super fast in their ships, conveniently the one thing that would ruin the story
mfw

[Anonymous No.23248190]

>>23248142
I'm offended that you would compare Wheel of Time to One Piece.

[Anonymous No.23248197]

>>23248190
i've read the first book of wheel of time around the same time i tried one piece (i forget how many chapters, but long enough)
i have no hesitation in saying that wheel of time is actually worse
at least one piece is unpretentious and knows it's shounenslop, wheel of time is written by a guy who has higher pretensions than he's capable of
those starting chapters of the first book have to be some of the most boring introductory chapters i've read in ANYTHING
>inb4 it's old
thomas covenant was written in 1977 and it has one of the best introductory chapters of all time

[Anonymous No.23248208]

>>23248187
There are a lot of contrivances in the story

[Anonymous No.23248216]

>>23248208
i guess it's fine
it is a fun ride, if nothing else
although i must say the 1st book was a lot better than the 2nd, i'm not sure how the 3rd will be but i'm starting now

[Anonymous No.23248225]

>>23248216
I just think the trisolarans must be really fucking stupid for being so advanced. Why attack a planet of near similar advancement when they could just find another planet without an advanced species on it? You'd think a smart race would take the path of least resistance.

[Anonymous No.23248256]

>>23248197
Those WoT beginning chapters are incredibly comfy. I would take book 1 Wheel of Time over the entirety of One Piece any day. They're not even comparable. And book 1 isn't even the peak of the series. It only gets better from there. Hell, you don't even meet the other Aes Sedai in the first book. The second book introduces them all.

Ya know, I actually gave One Piece the anime a chance. Someone said I should watch it about 50-some episodes, because that's when you get to the Arlong episodes. And that's supposed to be the big hook for audiences. Well I watched the Arlong stuff, and a bit farther, before deciding it was trash.

I really don't see how you can put One Piece above WoT. I guess when you get down to the essence of it, you prefer LOUD AND ZAAAAA~NY characters.

[Anonymous No.23248295]

>>23248256
i would've have said a few years ago that if a series doesn't get good in the first novel, i'm not going to read it
now i'll go further and say that if a story doesn't capture my attention at chapter one i'm not interested in continuing
there's more things to read, play, watch than i have time for, and i'm not about to waste them on something i might not care for at any point
> before deciding it was trash
just like wheel of time
>I really don't see how you can put One Piece above WoT.
i already said why, because it's honest and unpretentious, it's literally a children's cartoon
wheel of time is a fantasy slop for young teens that sees itself as deep and philosophical but is neither
everything about it is bad, from the plot, to the worldbuilding, to the fucking shitty character names that are worse than what you'd get from a generator
>NOOOOO BUT YOU NEED TO READ PAST BOOK 1
no i don't think i will

[Anonymous No.23248306]

>>23247660
What is the best English translation of the Mabinogion?

[Anonymous No.23248319]

>>23248306
I found a comparison a while ago

[Anonymous No.23248335]

>>23248319
Thanks.
Strange, it lacks Guest, the one with the most editions.
I like the archaic langauge of Jones but I am inclined towards the new one by Davies evne though I'm also afraid it might be corrupted with the woke virus, being new and all.

[Anonymous No.23248375]

>>23247660
If pic related are my favorites, what would you recommend to me? I also like Witold Gombrowicz, Alfred Doblin and Robert Musil.

I did not enjoy book of the new sun that much, only finished the first book in the series.

[Anonymous No.23248419]

>>23244601
Not exactly....
>>23245429
I'm sure it wouldve been creepier not knowing what happens, but I thought its more tense than scary. It deals more directly with the fear of death, like the physical sensations of knowing your time is coming.
>>23245555
The core concept of a powerful psychic's emotional death throes combining with smallpox to birth a curse is an absolute cracker of a premise. The actual execution...eh, I dunno. I'll read the sequels, I'll say that much.
As for Ryuji it was very interesting how at the end his criminal history was thrown into question, painting him as a pathetic, misunderstood loner. I was not expecting rape.

[Anonymous No.23248452]

To the guy who recommended this: what the hell was the demon? I didn't understand what it was. Some crab? Cthulhu?

[Anonymous No.23248459]

>>23248452
One of my twitter followings just tweeted about this writer

Does your X username start with the letter d by any chance?

[Anonymous No.23248473]

>>23245555
>For fucks sake, Parasite Eve was full of footnotes from the authors research.
That's more because Hideaki Sena is an actual honest to god doctor.

[Anonymous No.23248492]

Thank you to anyone who picked up Improvidence, I've hit my "sold enough to not kill myself" goal. Consider taking a look if you're interested!

[Anonymous No.23248529]

>>23248459
No. I don't have an X account.

[Anonymous No.23248606]

>>23248473
Fair point. I haven't read that many Japanese authors but I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is not uncommon for them to add footnotes about the reference material they researched for the book. Maybe I pulled that out of my ass though.

>>23248419
>The actual execution...eh, I dunno.
Sure, I did like the execution in Parasite Eve better. I do enjoy the lone scientist against some great horror theme so any other book suggestions along those lines would be much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.23248609]

>fermale urban fantasy: this is you, you're plain jane but also your dad is a [insert cool magical creature here] and your mother is a [insert other cool magical creature] and you're irresistible to every magical creature, who aren't just superhot but also all want to bang the everloving shit out of you and all you have to do is pick one, you're the center of five prophecies
>male urban fantasy: you're a stupid dweeb normal who's fat and out of shape, the creature women laugh at your powerlevel and the men have penises the size of your arm, you're a no one and you'll be grateful for the specks of power thrown your way
Why is this?

[Anonymous No.23248621]

>>23248609
You forgot the female urban fantasy where they just get fucked and fucked up repeatedly by huge brutish monsters (who are hot in a weird borderline furry way).

[Anonymous No.23248629]

>>23248609
The male urban fantasy sounds awesome!

[Anonymous No.23248630]

Decent horror-fantasy, that isn't Between Two Fires?

[Anonymous No.23248647]

>>23248606
>lone scientist against some great horror theme
The Philosopher's Stone by Colin Wilson. I'm sure it won't be what you expect, it reads like nonfiction for most of it, but it is right on theme.

[Anonymous No.23248648]

>>23248630
The Barrow by Mark Smylie is decent, kind of Indiana Jonesy, although you need to be able to put up with a bit of degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.23248673]

>>23248629
I swear that based solely on how these men write their protagonists and their romance, I'm 100% sure that they're not the real fathers of the children of which they boast in their profiles.

[Anonymous No.23248683]

>>23248225
This is the point of the Dark Forest hypothesis elaborated in the second book.

[Anonymous No.23248688]

>>23248673
The fitness to sire children has nothing to do with the kind of weirdness you're alluding to. It's one of the features of our biology.

[Anonymous No.23248702]

>>23248492
Congrats on selling a number of copies equal to your age!

[Anonymous No.23248708]

>>23248688
I'm saying they're cucks, anon.

[Anonymous No.23248711]

>>23248648
Doesn't look like my kind of thing, honestly. Thanks for the rec though.

[Anonymous No.23248738]

I know I'm a faggot for this, but I look down on my friends because all they read is fantasy and science fiction, and they'll discuss it for hours at a time. One of them is starting his 3rd or possibly 4th re-read of Wheel of Time. I don't know how you can read as much as they do while ignoring any other subgenre of fiction as successfully as they've done.

[Anonymous No.23248745]

>>23248647
> In The Strength to Dream (1962), Colin Wilson had criticized the works of H.P. Lovecraft, the American writer of weird tales, which led to Lovecraft's publisher August Derleth daring Wilson to write one better. This novel, The Philosopher's Stone (1969), was the result, a fascinating blend of science fiction, horror, and philosophy, told within the framework of Lovecraft's mythos.

Holy shit. Sounds interesting. Thanks, I will check it out.

[Anonymous No.23248747]

>>23248609
Goddamnit, now I want to read some urban fantasy. Anything halfway decent come out in the last five years?

[Anonymous No.23248752]

what the fuck
the third book in the three-body trilogy just goes back to the beginning? this is absolute bullshit
i'm just gonna read a synopsis, i can't bother with this shit

[Anonymous No.23248759]

>>23248738
>I know I'm a faggot for this
confirmed

> I look down on my friends because all they read is fantasy and science fiction ... I don't know how you can read as much as they do while ignoring any other subgenre of fiction...
It's what they like. Why would they read shit they don't enjoy?

[Anonymous No.23248763]

>>23248752
It does so only for a bit.

[Anonymous No.23248764]

>>23248738
>i don't know how people can just read what they enjoy reading
baffling

[Anonymous No.23248774]

>>23248763
i just read the synopsis and i'm glad i didn't read it
i'm really disappointed that this series went from being somewhat grounded to being fantasy tier

[Anonymous No.23248776]

>>23248738
>all they read is fantasy and science fiction
>rereading WoT over and over and over
Your friend doesn't read if he only reads the same thing over and over; that said, your friend would make a perfect fit amongst all the retarded normalfags here.

[Anonymous No.23248784]

>>23248776
if you think reading wot 4 times is the average normalfag you're a fucking lunatic
normalfags don't read for comfort in general
i guess maybe teenage women do, but that's really it

[Anonymous No.23248793]

>>23248776
Have you never reread a book you enjoyed? What's the real difference in rereading a series you enjoyed?

There is no reason to spend time on things I don't like. I'm not going to force myself through a shit book just so I can brag about it on some anonymous forum. I don't have enough time to read everything that interests me, why waste it on things that don't?

>>23248784
Even once is more than any normie is going to do.

[Anonymous No.23248797]

>>23248793
You enjoy being here?

[Anonymous No.23248804]

>>23248793
It's okay if you only want to read one series and only want to read that one series over and over indefinitely throughout your life. Just don't post about it here and expect to be applauded for being a diamond dozen normalfag who exists well within the mean of average intelligence.

[Anonymous No.23248814]

>>23248793
i agree with you and think that other anon is a cunt, but, still, i think he raises a good point
there is definitely that type of person whose intellectual (and even emotional) horizons are incredibly stunted and narrow
i'm talking about a 45 yo man who is still obsessed about whatever the hell it was he liked as a child, as exemplified by the rightwing manchildren today whose entire worldview is defined by star wars and what happens in star wars related media
of course, i don't agree with the other douchebag anon completely since i think having a particular thing you love and reread/rewatch is endearing and can even be useful to judge things as you analyze it at different stages of your life
there's a lot better things to love and obsess over than wheel of time, though

[Anonymous No.23248859]

>>23248738
Re-reading books (especially those soap operas) is a waste of time. You can read something better instead. I just like revisiting some of the more intriguing chapters of books I like.
Also: liking a single series doesn't make you a fan of entire genre.

[Anonymous No.23248943]

>>23248747
Bad Dreams & Broken Hearts

[Anonymous No.23248951]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.23248962]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince

[Anonymous No.23249017]

I finished The Terror recently, and while its not strictly fantasy, its got me in the mood for more victorian/nautical stuff.
Any recommendations, anons? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.23249028]

I love the new cover for the re-release of Harlan Ellison short stories "Greatest Hits", I've been thinking lately how there's not been one great or decent science fiction or fantasy cover I think the last good one I thought was pretty cool was Whelan's A Memory of Light cover but I'm pretty biased due to bein a Whelan fan but maybe this could be a return to form and we might get the cool covers again like they had in the Golden Age of sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.23249047]

>>23248459
>One of my twitter followings
shut the fuck up, faggot

[Anonymous No.23249090]

>>23248764
>>23248759
I feel like you need to be at least a little intellectually curious to read as much as they do. A lot of my favorite books, films, etc. are ones that I would've never been introduced to if I were merely consuming my "comfort food" for years at a time. You need to shed your shell and undergo a little bit of discomfort and uncertainty every now and then. I've read stuff that they've recommended and enjoyed it, but it's not like it's all I'm going to read for the rest of my life.

But I've realized the root of this feeling now, so it doesn't matter.

>>23248776
They read other stuff, but I think it's just Brandon Sanderson, Frank Herbert, Dan Simmons, and Tolkien. It could definitely be a lot worse.

[Anonymous No.23249096]

The Silmarillion is the peak of fantasy. It's not even remotely close.

[Anonymous No.23249153]

>>23248492
It looks pretty cool. Ill probably read it at some point. Glad you're not killing yourself.

[Anonymous No.23249185]

FitzChivalry.

[Anonymous No.23249201]

>>23249090
at this point i respect pretty much everyone over tolkienfags
the entire fanbase has been taken over by redditors, sfws, and pagan larpers

[Anonymous No.23249210]

>>23249017
for books I have nothing but you could look into the games Fallen London and Sunless Sea

[Anonymous No.23249215]

>>23249201
Aren't there any tradcaths still into Tolkien?

[Anonymous No.23249303]

>>23248492
>pedophile not killing himself
Perchance reconsider.

[Anonymous No.23249396]

>>23249201
>at this point i respect pretty much everyone over tolkienfags
Theres nothing wrong with Tolkien. I cant help its been taken over by a bunch of losers. Newsflash, there everywhere taking over everything of value.

[Anonymous No.23249502]

what's some fantasy standalone or series that has a super badass male protag? like the sort of the thing that'd make a 14 yo boy cream his pants
i know conan and elric, need some other candidates

[Anonymous No.23249519]

>>23249502
Kane by Karl Edward Wagner

[Anonymous No.23249631]

>>23249210
I actually really like Sunless Sea, on point.

[Anonymous No.23249697]

>>23248683
Dark forest hypothesis is also retarded

[Anonymous No.23249732]

>>23249502
Solomon Kane

[Anonymous No.23249932]

>>23248738
>One of them is starting his 3rd or possibly 4th re-read of Wheel of Time.
Disgust is normal

[Anonymous No.23250196]

>>23248738
>>23249090
You're putting reading, and even more wildly, reading fiction into a box. It comes off like you think reading is only an intellectual exercise that makes you better than others. It can and should be used to expose yourself to new ideas, but to imply that there isn't any other purposes is a little cunty.

Don't let this board turn you into a precocious autist.

I've reread part of WoT pretty much every year for the last 15

[Anonymous No.23250293]

>>23250196
The WoT hate is simply ADD neckbeards who cant fathom committing the necessary time to reading it once, let alone multiple times.

[Anonymous No.23250312]

>>23249090
>>23250196
>>23250293
samefag

[Anonymous No.23250321]

Here's my last few months.

Currently reading:
>Witch King by Martha Wells
I'm most of the way through this one, so far recommend it.
>The Actions of Gods (Spark City Cycle, Book 4) by Robert J Power
Been following this series since the first book came out in 2015. Some post apocalyptic fantasy tropes, but now with eugenics!
>The Sword of Kaigen by M L Wang
I don't know if I'll finish this one. I got to what I thought would be the end and then realized there was almost half the book left. If anyone thinks it's worth it please let me know.
>Inda (Inda, Book 1) by Sherwood Smith
I'm rereading this in between the others, still holds up. Highly recommend.

Things I've read recently:
>Gods of the Wyrdwood (The Forsaken Trilogy, Book 1) by RJ Barker
Come have a fun time with not depressing at all forest Vikings with a tribal caste system.
>The Tainted Cup (Shadow of the Leviathan, Book 1) by Robert Jackson Bennett
Future Sci-Fi Sherlock Holmes. Instead of tech we get people merging with other organisms for super powers.
>The Book That Wouldn't Burn (The Library, Book 1) by Mark Lawrence
Probably my favorite book that I've read in a while. It's Prince of Thorns but less edge.
>Jack of Thieves (The Master Thief, Book 1) by Ben Hale
This book left my memory as soon as I finished it.
>Fire and Song (Warformed: Stormweaver, Book 2) by Bryce O'Connor
I like Stormweaver, it's progression sci-fi junk food. The interpersonal stuff can get a little heavy handed sometimes, but the prog aspect is really fun.
>Elantris by Brandon Sanderson
P good, it's very basic but solid fantasy.

>>23250293
Still my favorite series by a long shot, but hard to say how much of that comes from growing up with it. I do think it's overly criticized by the weird reddit fantasy generation though.

[Anonymous No.23250330]

>>23249697
The argument is laid out well in the book. Why do you disappear?

[Anonymous No.23250336]

>>23249697
>>23250330
*Disagree

[Anonymous No.23250392]

>>23250321
>reading current year books
Oh nice. The only one of those I may eventually get around to that I haven't already read is The Tainted Cup. I've only read Elantris around when it was released. I'm surprised that Sanderson was able to make such a career starting with that.

Wells is mostly miss for me, including that. Kaigen is extremely popular on Reddit, as is the author in general. Lawrence has been all misses for me. I looked at Warformed and it was too junk by far for me.

[Anonymous No.23250414]

>>23250293
>Veins of Gold
>Then he's planning us a war
>Forging Mah'alleinir
>The last flicker flicker
>That man still stands
>Someone finally came back for him
Imagine never getting to experience this stuff. I feels sorry for them.

[Anonymous No.23250442]

>>23249185
he should have ended with lady patience or kettricken,
fuck molly

[Anonymous No.23250462]

>>23250442
>kettricken
Agreed

[Anonymous No.23250484]

>>23250392
>I'm surprised that Sanderson was able to make such a career starting with that.
It's crazy, the writing feels so old, but it only came out two years before The Name of the Wind. I can't really point to anything that I glaringly disliked, but it felt very lukewarm all the way through.

>Lawrence has been all misses for me
I've only read Prince of Thorns and Red Sister, and that was years ago. Did you give The Book That Wouldn't Burn a shot? The themes are pretty surface level, but I really enjoyed the setting and the way the plot wrapped up.

>>23250462
Kettricken wanted Fitz ass bad.

[Anonymous No.23250511]

>>23250392
>I looked at Warformed and it was too junk by far for me
It's as if the authors watched five shounen anime then wrote a book about it. One of the authors, Bryce, is a reddit mod of the progression fantasy board and will literally all caps "yell" at you if you don't support faggots.

[Anonymous No.23250535]

>>23250511
Bryce is an autist. The way he communicates on the internet is like a 13 year old from 2005. It's nuts.

[Anonymous No.23250558]

I hadn't realized Iron Prince's sequel was out. On a scale to 6-10 how pozzed is it?

[Anonymous No.23250565]

>>23250293
Got me there
Though I don't hate it though

[Anonymous No.23250581]

>>23250558
https://kemono.su/patreon/user/39033567/post/90646682
You can give it a shot. I liked it more than the first book. It's another tournament arc, except Rei isn't as much of a little bitch boi.

[Anonymous No.23250583]

>>23250196
Then it's good that I didn't imply there isn't any other purpose

[Anonymous No.23250601]

>>23250583
>I look down on my friends because all they read is fantasy and science fiction
No you're right, just that any other reason is lesser than. It's the same vibe as someone saying you should only go to university for STEM.

[Anonymous No.23250640]

>>23250601
>all they read is fantasy and science fiction...
>consuming... "comfort food" for years at a time
>You need [variety] now and then
It's not about these genres or reading them being "less than", it's about reading one thing to the exclusion of all else for years of your life. I'd feel the same way if someone only read detective novels, Russian literature, or historical nonfiction. Food analogy of your choice goes here.

[Anonymous No.23250663]

>>23250293
It is basically a printed opportunity cost. That's why I enjoy listening to it while walking / running.

>>23250601
>It's the same vibe as someone saying you should only go to university for STEM
Saying someone should expand their intellectual pursuits to encompass a wide variety of subjects is the precise opposite of going to university to study STEM, though. It's the "same vibe" as a liberal arts education. It's like you notched the arrow, drew, and bent over backwards before firing, how do you even miss the mark by that much?

[Anonymous No.23250714]

>>23250640
I don't mean to imply you think Fantasy/Sci-Fi is trash.
>I feel like you need to be at least a little intellectually curious to read as much as they do
>You need to shed your shell and undergo a little bit of discomfort and uncertainty every now and then
>You need [variety] now and then
Unironically, why? There's still an implication here of exposing yourself to new books because you *need* to expand your horizons. This is what I mean by saying it sounds like you don't value other reasons as highly. Reading for enjoyment, reading for meditation, reading for escape. There are uncountable reasons for reading books not just for intellectual stimuli. And even ignoring that, if you're revisiting something with new life experiences and thoughts it can be a totally new experience.

>>23250663
>how do you even miss the mark by that much?
How is reading only for the express purpose of intellectual growth and going to school to only make money not a similar vibe? They're both assuming that there needs to be a net good result for the process to be valuable.

[Anonymous No.23250719]

>>23250663
lmao this anon doesn't even know how to use a bow

[Anonymous No.23250759]

>>23250330
The universe is abundant in resources. If it was ever a threat that a civilization could take the resources away from another sufficiently such that the only rational response for it is to risk its own existence to destroy any and all possible current and future civilizations, that civilization is already in massive trouble, is already likely in declice, and isn't going to last.

Imagine you're a civilization just starting to explore the galaxy and you come across a smaller civilization less advanced than you. It'd be like a developed nation coming across an untouched tribe living on an island. They aren't a threat and are likely just gonna be an interesting curiosity to study. You'd probably have probes to do surveillance and watch them and see how they evolve instead of just wiping them out over the possibility that one day they'd be as powerful or more powerful than you and take all the resources in the galaxy.

Imagine now you come across another civilization about as advanced as you. Would you risk going to war over it due to the hypothetical scenario in which they'll advance far enough to be a threat to your civilization, risking a bloodbath and the complete destruction of your civilization, or do you perhaps try and expand in another direction away from them and keep a watch on the other civilization and see how they react to you? Or even better yet, establish diplomacy with them and expand both of your spheres of influence, strengthening both of your civilizations?

A civilization that just makes enemies of everyone over a hypothetical scenario isn't going to last.

[Anonymous No.23250776]

>>23249502
Any book by David Gemmell. Start with Legend, the whole Drenai series is excellent.

[Anonymous No.23250800]

that's it! i'm going to read peter hamilton books and you can't stop me

[Anonymous No.23250821]

Is A Song of Ice and Fire just passing fad normslop or is it actually worth reading?

[Anonymous No.23250825]

>>23250759
also, a collective of civilizations has way more power than an individual civilization. I'd imagine a galactic federation would probably subjugate a disobedient civilization that tries to kill everything it encounters pretty quickly.

[Anonymous No.23250859]

>>23250800
whomilton?

[Anonymous No.23250875]

>>23250821
>slop
It's a hit amongst your ilk.

[Anonymous No.23250917]

>>23250875
Isn't ___slop common vernacular around these parts?

[Anonymous No.23250976]

>>23250759
It also assumes that you /can/ hide. JWST can almost see atmospheres of earthlike planets, iirc. Why not spend those same resources in advancing your own civilization? If the other civilization is that much more powerful, they almost certainly can see you already.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.23251011]

>>23247660
Planetside, Planetside #1 - Michael Mammay (2018)

Planetside is a military science fiction mystery novel with some noir elements and ethical considerations. As may be expected from most debut novels, Mammay, who has 25 years of military service, hasn't quite found his voice yet. What's written here is solid, though relatively generic. The content tends towards action rather than contemplation. One military SF novel seems to have been of significant influence, though to say which one would be a major spoiler. The ending may greatly upset those who didn't realize they were reading a MilSF novel and what that often means. Although there are more books in the series, this one tells a complete story and can definitely be read by itself.

Colonel Carl Butler served 37 years, 24 years outside of stasis, in SPACECOM, before being put out to pasture at STUCOM (student command) right before retirement. General Serata, a friend that he's served together with 3 times, has called him out of semi-retirement to investigate the disappearance of a lieutenant who is the son of one of their High Councilors. Butler is reluctant because his wife is already 13 years older than him and he'd be returning to the frontlines of a frontier planet. Speed is never mentioned, only distance, so it's unknown how far away any place is or how quickly they travel.

The characters in general are adequate. There are many names, though most are only passing through and mentioned once. None of the characters receive anything more than the slightest development. They all seem set in their ways, which may be because almost everyone is military. First person perspective is only used to moderate success. Usually first person is great or terrible for me without any middle ground, but this seems to be an exception.

The year is 3943, but it doesn't feel like that. What it feels like is more contemporary and specifically the Afghanistan War, or at least the idea of a Middle Eastern war. The narrow and focused scope of the narrative is both a strength and weakness, though for me it's more the latter. It's a strength in that it doesn't get bogged down in the details and is constantly making progress through the plot. Outside of what's immediately happening not much is known. The setting isn't developed, but it's known that humanity has colonized many worlds and has met a considerable amount of alien life. Only the frontier planet Butler is headed to has intelligent life though, and humanoid at that. However, humanity mostly sees them as a commercial development obstacle. Earth is never mentioned except once as a generic term, nor is Terra. Whether they even still know about their birth planet isn't known. The planets that are known are called by name and number, such as Elenia 4 and Ferra 3. I don't like that naming convention, but it doesn't really matter. This first book isn't anything special, but I'll be reading the rest of the series.

Rating: 3.5/5 (4)

[Anonymous No.23251017]

Any good horror noir? Stuff like Laird Barron's work, or kinda Those Across the River. Less fun urban romp and more bleak and horror. Bonus points for taking place in its own world rather than earth.

[Anonymous No.23251024]

>>23251011
The Polish edition cover took a different approach. My first thought was Batou from Ghost in the Shell.

[Anonymous No.23251035]

https://chooseyourstory.com/Default.aspx

Free online choose your own adventure stories. I highly reccomend The Eternal as its a dark fantasy villain protagonist story. It is really really long and has lots of paths.

[Anonymous No.23251040]

>>23251035
lots of sex gore and all sorts of cool stuff

[Anonymous No.23251039]

Anyone got any suggestions for books where the main character is a priest/paladin/general agent of a specific god in a world where there's a whole pantheon of gods?
Been looking into it but I haven't really got much beyond deed of paks, chalion and all the assassin books that are blatantly copying the dark brotherhood from TES.

[Anonymous No.23251053]

>>23251035
I should warn you before you start but this story gets pretty dark and it also has plenty of sex in it too. Just wanted more people to see it. Your character is pretty evil in most paths, and the Empire your character serves is pretty morally unambiguously evil.

[Anonymous No.23251054]

>>23251039
The various tabletop games novels have stuff like this. Dungeons & Dragons, Pathfinder, etc.

[Anonymous No.23251059]

>>23251054
I tried child of a mad god by salvatore but he's just not got any interesting ideas, at least based off of the evidence of that book

[Anonymous No.23251070]

>>23251039
one of the main themes of 40k, with arcs that focus specifically on this sort of thing.

[Anonymous No.23251081]

>>23251070
brothers of the snake a good read for someone new to the 40k universe and wants a space marine book. You should read it.

[Anonymous No.23251090]

>>23251081
abnett is great. will do

[Anonymous No.23251135]

>>23249153
Appreciate it anon!

[Anonymous No.23251184]

Over the years I've come to realize that I have a far narrower interest in Fantasy than Science Fiction. It's come to the point where I'm reading SF the vast majority of the time simply because I can't find enough suitable Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.23251240]

>>23251184
I read much more scifi as I get older. The ideas linger in my head longer and generate new ones.

[Anonymous No.23251248]

Just watched Dune 2, it was awesome but was it in the book that Jessica was the Baron's daughter? I remember in the sequels that Paul's sister became "possessed" by his personality because of a distant common ancestor, but I don't remember him being Paul's grandfather

Also was the Harkonnen arena scene in the book? I have no memory of that.

[Anonymous No.23251253]

>>23251011
your """reviews""" are SHIT. Fuck off

[Anonymous No.23251263]

>>23251248
I doubt it because wasn't Jessica supposed to bear a daughter who would marry Feyd-Rautha, ie. her uncle? I guess it happens today in Islamic cultures

[Anonymous No.23251277]

>>23251253
Why does someone reviewing a book on a literature board cause you so much asshole consternation?

[Anonymous No.23251278]

>>23251248
yes, he realizes it i the stiltent when he goes schizo and looks at his mom and notices certain genetic features that lead him to realize that they're harkonnen.

It's also set up earlier in the novel when mohaim visits caladan and talks about the bene gesserit breeding program and he experiences an attack against "rightness"

[Anonymous No.23251282]

>>23251278
oh and also when mohaim has an internal monologue while studying Paul's features and notes that she notices features from the "maternal grandfather who should not be named"

[Anonymous No.23251294]

>>23250293
>it's a commitment

[Anonymous No.23251339]

>>23251248
I havent seen the movie, but if its the scene when Feyd-Rautha kills the slave/former atreides, then yes.
That's the only arena scene from the book that I recall.

[Anonymous No.23251379]

>>23251248
man stellan skarsgaard was such a fantastic baron

[Anonymous No.23251587]

>>23249697
I feel like the Dark Forest hypothesis is something that only a Chinaman could come up with. It’s also something I could see China using as justification to conquer the world of whatever. The Chinese are fascinating.

[Anonymous No.23251598]

>>23251587
What if the aliens are like chinamen? The existence of one culture in the universe that would come up with something like the Dark Forest hypothesis means there could be others.

[Anonymous No.23251655]

Reading The Three Body Problem
Straight garbage. I know it's a translation, but there's absolutely nothing redeeming about the prose or substance of the writing

[Anonymous No.23251660]

>>23251655
it really is, the characters are soulless viewports for fun pop-science concepts.
>>23251587
>>23251598
it's just a very buglike interpretation of the fermi paradox. nothing unique to the book, per-se. not that you're implying otherwise really.

[Anonymous No.23251691]

I decided to give the First Law trilogy a try (currently in the middle of book 2) and it is actually decently enjoyable. The characters are fun, lively and well-written. The plot is okay-tier. I also don't have any idea how the plot will develop further. It seems like things are just happening without any real reason or end goal. Could just be me, though.

I am looking to start reading J.V. Jones' Sword of Shadows series after I finish up with the First Law. Has anyone here read it? If so, how was it?

[Anonymous No.23251709]

>>23251039
In a Practical Guide to Evil, Hell is in an unending war over the mortal realm with Angels. They both empower a few select mortals with names that represent abstract concepts (e.g. Black Knight, White Knight, The Empress, The Heiress, The Shinning Prince) and they set them to fight each other for amusement and control over said mortal realm. These names result in different powers and can be changed or lost completely as the empowered individuals themselves change.
Also they made the world run on literary tropes for the lols, so shit like the hero escaping and surviving by falling off a cliff, or the villain being the most vulnerable and exposed when they are monologing act like laws of reality. These people empowered by the names are also aware of this and are basically sweaty metagamers trying to outwit and kill each other. It's a fun read.

[Anonymous No.23251748]

>>23250759
The logarithmic effect of industrial production and scientific discovery is extremely scary if you assume there is a potential for hostility. Especially due to light being delayed making accurate information about another civilization impossible with theoretically perfect observation. I mean just think about the bipolar way our democracy's work. If we know there is someone there, and have the ability and confidence, eventually we would try conquering them. Both by saying they are a threat, and otherising there culture as villainous. Assuming the same is true of other civilization's is natural. It would be said though, this is effectively viewing the nature of interstellar conflict through the lens of human logic and emotion.

[Anonymous No.23251764]

>>23251748
yet it seems that you underestimate the sheer vastness of the quantity of resources available in the universe. on Earth alone, we have 40,000 years worth of uranium to use for reactors even if we started using more. we (the US) produce hundreds of millions of barrels of oil a day yet have so much liquid oil that if we were to continue at our current rate we’d still have 100-200 years of non-stop liquid oil. this is just for the resources we use and extract from the Earth. imagine how many tons of iron you could mine from an asteroid, then realize that iron is one of the commoner elements in the universe. even in our solar system there’s so resources that even if our industry was increasing exponentially, up to the point we could harness said resources, it’d be a legendary civilization-defining achievement to be able to exhaust it in a mere 20-25 years.

[Anonymous No.23251765]

>>23251039
Read Aspect-Emperor.

[Anonymous No.23251766]

>>23251709
It's basically just "heroes are stupid and naïve, villains are smart and secretly good guys", is what it actually is. It's got all the depth of your average "postapocalyptic" YA series.

[Anonymous No.23251788]

>>23248295
>now i'll go further and say that if a story doesn't capture my attention at chapter one i'm not interested in continuing
ok, cool. But Wheel of Time is good from the first chapter. You just don't appreciate the comfiness of the beginning chapters. You want immediate blood and steal from the start. Mature dark fantasy for mature readers such as yourself.

>i already said why, because it's honest and unpretentious, it's literally a children's cartoon
So basically you prefer the zaniness, like I said. "Wubba Lubba Dub-Dub!"

>wheel of time is a fantasy slop for young teens that sees itself as deep and philosophical but is neither
Is the book trying to be deep and philosophical, or are you just reading too much into it? Basing your world on unconventional mythologies, doesn't necessarily mean it's trying to be deep. It's just taking inspiration from sources that a lot of other fantasies don't. For some reason, you take that as trying to be "deep".

[Anonymous No.23251811]

>>23251039
>chalion
Did you read all the Penric books? It's set within the same world. Penric is an unconventional priest, and he goes around doing his god's bidding, while all the gods of the world manipulate events in their own ways. Most of the time Penric doesn't know what his god intends, until the deed is done. But it's always fun watching him go through the process of discovery.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/183152-penric-and-desdemona-publication-order

There's 12 books now. Each one is self contained. Though, they are bites of Penric's life, so in a sense, there is an order to them all. But each book is a self contained story. So you don't have to read them all to get an overarching narrative. You can read them bit by bit.

[Anonymous No.23251816]

>>23251811
Look, I'm sorry, but I can't take a dude whose name is basically Penisrick seriously. I just can't.

[Anonymous No.23251821]

>>23251816
What are you Australian? Why are you pronouncing Pen like peen?

[Anonymous No.23251853]

Purest kinography.

[Anonymous No.23251882]

>>23249502
ayo

[Anonymous No.23251892]

>>23251764
Also technology gets smaller over time. Plus population slows down the more advanced the civilization.

[Anonymous No.23252065]

>>23248256
>Ya know, I actually gave One Piece the anime a chance. Someone said I should watch it about 50-some episodes
>Anime
You were baited. The anime is shit and plagued with filler and poor pacing. Stick to the manga.

For reference: you did the equivalent of getting into WoT by watching the Amazon series first

[Anonymous No.23252070]

>>23251811
Yeah I've read most, I just need to get back to them for the later ones. I think I stopped on the plague one
>>23251766
Rather than just being that it's actually super american lib brained. Like the evil faction are the bad but ultimately protectionist. All of the revolutionaries and heroes are secretly bad/misguided/puppets of schemers and the protagonist is a moderate reformer who "fixes" the genocide machine from the inside.

[Anonymous No.23252074]

>>23251379
100%. though a big part of it was due to makeup and costume design, he absolutely crushed it and played the part incredibly well. Shaddam, on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.23252105]

>>23251655
apparently the original is much worse
not only did the book go through different iterations in chinese to be readable, but even the translator helped out cixin make it more readable in english

[Anonymous No.23252112]

>>23251788
>Mature dark fantasy for mature readers such as yourself.
you couldn't be more wrong, i've outgrown stuff like that a long time ago
>So basically you prefer the zaniness, like I said.
that's not at all the case nor can you take that from what was stated
>Is the book trying to be deep and philosophical
it absolutely is and it's presented as such both by jordans and the fans
it might not be bakker tier redditor behavior but it's damn close

[Anonymous No.23252114]

>>23252074
this movie blows
i thought part 1 was nice but i hated part 2, felt like they took dune and made it into a young adult story

[Anonymous No.23252150]

>>23252112
Give me an example of WoT being pretentious.
To my knowledge, nothing Robert Jordan stated indicates it to be so.
And judging a piece of work by the interpretation of fans, is retarded.
Give me an example from either RJ's own mouth, or by the book's own words.

[Anonymous No.23252156]

>>23252150
Pretentious tends to mean "I didn't understand it". You know, like art.

[Anonymous No.23252187]

>wake up
>normalfags still arguing about WoT
sasuga

[Anonymous No.23252282]

>>23252187
Never read it, never will. Sounds bland as fuck, and anything with more than 5 sequels is just automatic dogshit.

[Anonymous No.23252303]

>>23251748
I mean, if you use history as a basis for how interstellar relationships would go, I'd imagine every civilization would try to engage in peace before just bombing everyone. An interstellar civilization would probably have thousands of years of their own history of internal conflicts to learn that making enemies of everyone is exhaustive and it's better to try to be diplomatic. Otherwise, that civilization would probably have destroyed itself. WWI and II taught us that.

[Anonymous No.23252309]

>>23252112
>it absolutely is and it's presented as such both by jordans and the fans
It's a fantasy world created so Jordan could explore moral questions he had as a result of the Vietnam war. The dude gunned down Viet Cong from a helicopter. Most of the themes are the literal opposite of pretentious.

[Anonymous No.23252345]

He's literally me.

[Anonymous No.23252357]

>>23252282
i want to tell you you're wrong but i'm really struggling to come up with a single series that doesn't shit the bed after 3-4 books

[Anonymous No.23252364]

>>23250663
>That's why I enjoy listening to it while walking / running.
This is an underrated option. I actually like the Kate Reading/Micheal Kramer narration a lot and they do the entire series.

>>23251587
I read about the Dark Forest Hypothesis somewhere and that is what got me interested in reading the books. What's scary about the hypothesis, is that we have already fucked up if its true. Even before I became aware of this hypothesis, I always felt uneasy about the Golden Record we placed on Voyager that is basically a road map to Earth and describes humans. You don't know who the fuck my end up with that. We may need to try and chase that shit down. I don't necessary believe in the "Shoot first" argument, but I think it's only logical to be a little cautious when it comes to any kind of first contact scenario.

I hate to hear that the book is garbage though, since the whole premise sounded interesting to me.

>>23248647
I started this last night. He talks a little shit about Lovecraft in the preface and I cant help but already feel like he isn't going to be able to deliver.

[Anonymous No.23252371]

>>23252282
>Conan is dogshit
>Dune is dogshit
>Tolkien is dogshit
>Robin Hobb is dogshit
>Belgariad is dogshit
>Earthsea is dogshit
>Riftwar is dogshit
Wut.

>>23252364
>This is an underrated option
I'm a diehard fan, and honestly believe it's the best way to experience the series.

[Anonymous No.23252373]

>>23252357
The Gap Cycle by Stephen Donaldson. It gets better with each entry. Great setting Donaldson should've continued in some way. It has the spoopiest aliens in sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.23252407]

>>23252371
>Dune is dogshit
I thought the consensus was all the non-Frank books were shit?

[Anonymous No.23252438]

>>23251278
Oh damn guess I forgot about that. So Empire Strikes back kind of ripped off Dune then?

>>23251339
Oh okay yes it's that scene.

[Anonymous No.23252448]

>>23252407
Most of them outside of the original 6, yeah. I do think people liked Hunters of Dune and Sandworms or Dune though, but I haven't read them.

[Anonymous No.23252449]

>>23249028
I like this one, off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.23252469]

>>23250293
idk but the women in WoT are written like absolute shrills. completely kills any interest I may have had in the series.

[Anonymous No.23252479]

>>23251764
And you seem to underestimate the sheer vastness of deep time. If a civilization grew 1% every billion years until star formation stops(1-100 trillion years) it would increase 20 000-10^432 fold in that time. The selective pressures for expansionist genes/cultures/ideas are near inevitably going to lead to life or silicon niggers using every single resource available in their local universe. Every civ knows this to be almost a rule of law and where it doesn't apply are irrelevant to those civs. Someone's going to want that hydrogen at some point even though it's stupidly unlikely that someone would have use for it now. A casket only openable after 150 years filled with ton of gold is worth a shitload of money even today despite it being unlikely that the owner is going to even live that long. You don't hoard and expand for the immediate benefit but for the far future, since if you're going to sleep on it someone's going to want to claim it(if there's anyone else in the supercluster), or it gets wasted through fusion.
There's a load of problems with the dark forest making it completely unrealistic and retarded* but more from a practical standpoint. The motivations aren't that poorly founded and fearing other civilizations is more than warranted. I can't think of a reason to strive for peerhood instead of peaceful subjugation unless the most unlikeliest case of very similar technological capacity and cost of war(which isn't a stable configuration). A war/invasion only happens when technological gap is small enough that the lesser civilization has capacity of either fucking you over with some schemes or that they can succesfully escape, expand and fuck you up, and you're absolutely desperate. Also practicalities such as short enough distance etc etc.
*no stealth in space we've been observable for the past 4 billion years galaxy wide with near current tech, rarity of intelligent life, non trivial techonological gaps make war dumb compared to in system surveilance with firepower.
TL;DR all ayylmaos are greedy, and a danger to each other in a way completely different from our nations yet dark forest is dumb.

[Anonymous No.23252483]

>>23252357
Bakker is the only one I can think of.

[Anonymous No.23252485]

>>23252357
realm of the elderlings
it only semi shits itself 2/3rds of the way through

[Anonymous No.23252507]

>>23252479
A civilization at the point where it's scouring the edge of the universe for hydrogen is a dying civilization. That's far far future worries. It'd be equivalent to us making decisions about how we act towards other nations based on the inevitable future that we are gonna run out of water to share here on earth once we grow too large.

[Anonymous No.23252510]

>>23252483
Truth Shines.

[Anonymous No.23252516]

>>23252114
How so? A young adult story about religious fanaticism?

[Anonymous No.23252520]

>>23250392
>Wells is mostly miss for me, including that
So, I just finished Witch King last night. I think it could have been a bit longer, but if it was maybe I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much. It's a solid 6 or 6.5 out of 10 for me.

I have to sit on it to decide if I like then ending or not. It was short enough that it didn't overstay its welcome, and it was an interesting world. I didn't feel much tension because of Kaiisteron being an immortal demon. I also never really bought into the drama between Ramad and Kai, but I do think it was an interesting choice.

I think it could be a fun reread in a few months after knowing the full story.

>>23252469
>are written like absolute shrills
This is a really common complaint, I never quite understood why people single out only the women. I think this comes mainly from the girls, who are children and are seen from the PoV of other children. All the characters are almost caricatures of themselves at the start. I'm not disagreeing necessarily, but having problems with just the woman was always strange to me.

[Anonymous No.23252601]

>>23252507
Depends completely on cost of doing so and not doing so. The cost of securing resources and overexpanding might be negliable due to overabundance of resources and automation and the cost of not doing so might mean it falls into potential adversarys hands. Seeming overabundance of resources might also save a collection of single origin civilizations from infighting. Humanity would already be way more future orientated if it didn't cost so damn much in the present.
But yeah. Anyone fearing ayylmaos being a problem in the next 10s of millions of years is propably wrong.

[Anonymous No.23252691]

I have been going through garbage on RR and I found a novel called Tenebroum

It is actually pretty good and not garbage at all, I was pleasantly surprised desu.
Read it.

[Anonymous No.23252797]

>>23248630
We are all Legends

[Anonymous No.23252799]

What are some pulpy vampire books similar to this movie? Set in our world, human protagonist, vampires are thought to be a myth, no reinvention,...
I know Salem's lot, most famous short stories, and some Richard Laymon books that I haven't read yet.
Werewolves are fine too.

[Anonymous No.23252837]

>>23252799
Maybe not precisely what you're asking for, but you might enjoy the Tales from the Dark Tower series by Joseph Vargo. It has vampires and is very gothic.
And I've read mixed reviews about Nightblood, but it has vampires and is extremely pulpy.
There's also Fevre Dream by GRRM.

[Anonymous No.23252838]

>>23252799

[Anonymous No.23252848]

>>23252691
Buy an ad, author.

[Anonymous No.23252881]

>>23252799
I'd like to suggest a vampire novel I read years ago, but I can't remember the title or author.

[Anonymous No.23252926]

i want AI to progress enough to recommend me good niche books i'm missing out on

[Anonymous No.23252985]

>>23252926
Recommendation algorithms already exist. Netflix used to have a very good one for its dvd service but then they killed it because it wasn't helpful for them.

[Anonymous No.23252996]

>>23252691
It's interesting concept but it's just the same shit repeated endlessly, people showing up and getting killed and then more people showing up to get killed etc, at least up to when I dropped it

[Anonymous No.23253094]

>>23252926
That's probably not possible because there wouldn't be enough data to recommend you them. It's not magical. It mostly only works when there's a lot, not when it's little.

[Anonymous No.23253114]

>>23252926
The last time I asked it, GPT-sama genuinely gave me better recommendations for fantasy novels than I've ever got from /sffg/

[Anonymous No.23253159]

>>23253114
That's because you failed at properly using /sffg/.

[Anonymous No.23253186]

halfway through and liking it so far

[Anonymous No.23253196]

Brief me about Dark Sun's Prism Pentad Series, please. I want something with Morrowind's vibe, is it worth reading in such a case?

[Anonymous No.23253202]

>>23253159
How do I properly use this general? Don't say to just check the archive because im lazy desu

[Anonymous No.23253208]

>>23253202
There's more than just the general.

[Anonymous No.23253220]

>>23253208
the goodreads is useless
and there is absolutely no way im joining pisscord

[Anonymous No.23253239]

>>23253220
>I want to be spoonfed but I hate what I'm being fed.

[Anonymous No.23253309]

>>23253202
maybe ask something in the vain of what you are looking for?

[Anonymous No.23253331]

>>23253309
>in the vain
Damn, you read books?

[Anonymous No.23253340]

>>23253331
No whey fag

[Anonymous No.23253350]

>>23253114
Last time I tried chatGPT, I asked for specific lists of niche obscure titles and it gave me the equiv of NYT bestseller trash. The exact same shit faggots in this thread would give you, despite "use the general properly" fag telling you otherwise.

[Anonymous No.23253438]

>>23253350
>Everything bad

[Anonymous No.23253443]

>Play of Shadows (Court Of Shadows, Book 1) by Sebastien de Castell
>Damelas Shademantaigne picked a poor night to flee a judicial duel.
>He has precious little hope of escaping the wrath of the Vixen, the most feared duellist in the entire city, until he stumbles through the stage doors of the magnificent Operato Belleza and tricks his way into the company of actors. An archaic law provides a temporary respite from his troubles – until one night a ghostly voice in his head causes Damelas to fumble his lines, inadvertently blurting out a dreadful truth: the city’s most legendary hero may actually be a traitor and a brutal murderer.
>With only the help of his boisterous and lusty friend Bereto, a beautiful assassin whose target may well be Damelas himself, and a company of misfit actors who’d just as soon see him dead, this failed son of two Greatcoats must somehow find within himself the courage to dig up long-buried truths before a ruthless band of bravos known as the Iron Orchids come for his head.
>Oh, and there’s still that matter of the Vixen waiting to duel him...

This shit just dropped. I read The Greatcloaks series years ago. Don't remember much of it, but I think I enjoyed it. This one is in the same world, but not directly connected, I guess. Anyone read any of his other stuff or start on this?

[Anonymous No.23253448]

>>23253443
his ya style series is fine but doesn't have anything to really make it stand out once you get beyond the (pretty good) conceptual hook

[Anonymous No.23253464]

>>23253443
>The Greatcloaks
>cloaks
Fuck, I did the book meme.

>>23253448
Hmm, alright. I'm not too into YA so I'll pass on that one. But seems like he hasn't fallen off too hard, I'll give Play of Shadows a shot.

[Anonymous No.23253490]

>>23253438
The general is better off without normalfags like you, as discussed above, who only ever come here to jerk off their one single favorite series; coincidentally the only series they have ever read.

[Anonymous No.23253501]

>be luo ji
>literally save humanity by being a 1v1 pvp chad
>his successor
>literally an erp shitter that thinks they can pvp
I CANT

[Anonymous No.23253530]

>>23253490
>hasn't blocked or learned to ignore those posts
It's almost like your purpose is to destroy the general instead. Curious...

[Anonymous No.23253540]

>>23253501
That's all you got from it? It was a very blatant metaphor for why liberal democracy will always fail, as is much of the second book that shows how terrible pluralism, tolerance, and all other Western ideals are. There's much else that is similar.

[Anonymous No.23253550]

>>23253530
cool reddit phrase :)

[Anonymous No.23253556]

What's more gross? incest or interspecies (bestiality) relationships?

[Anonymous No.23253565]

>>23253556
how is that even a question? interspecies

[Anonymous No.23253583]

>>23253540
All I got from the books are that guys always gotta be the ones to fix the girl's problems.

[Anonymous No.23253592]

>>23253583
That's certainly a large part of it, yes.

[Anonymous No.23253595]

>>23252881
Say what it was about

[Anonymous No.23253599]

>>23253556
That depends on your values.

[Anonymous No.23253645]

>>23253595
Plot was fairly generic.
>set in modern times
>vampires exist and people know about them
>they're not supernatural, but extremely monstrous
>may have actually been 2 books now that I think about it
>first book is about an especially old lady vampire making a come back and a vampire hunter guy has to team up with a lady cop to stop her (if I'm remembering correctly)

[Anonymous No.23253788]

>>23253556
>What's more gross? incest or interspecies (bestiality) relationships?
Miscegenation

[Anonymous No.23253821]

>>23253556
The latter, of course.

[Anonymous No.23254031]

Anyone else feel this book is full of unnecessary padding? King goes way too in depth about every side character I swear.

[Anonymous No.23254036]

https://chooseyourstory.com/story/viewer/default.aspx?StoryId=10638

Eternal: a dark fantasy choose your own adventure webnovel. Play the game today.

[Anonymous No.23254062]

What is the most inspiring example of a relationship between a younger brother and an older sister?

[Anonymous No.23254074]

>the alzabo chapter
That's some crazy stuff. Severian is made of fucking steel.

[Anonymous No.23254080]

Would reccomending Worm fit in this general? It's a superhero web serial

[Anonymous No.23254091]

>>23254074
he's a sperg

[Anonymous No.23254104]

>>23254031
king is a shit writer with shit prose. he just writes his thoughts in long run on sentences and editors think it's fine because his "style" made them bank anyway.

[Anonymous No.23254129]

>>23254031
His only stories that aren't full of padding are his short stories; which are vastly superior to his novels.
Also:
>pic related

[Anonymous No.23254148]

Anon-samas is there a way to get paywalled chapters in Novelpia? I really really really want to read this novel https://novelpia.com/novel/225478

I know someone is already translating it but... 1 chapter per day sucks.

[Anonymous No.23254161]

Mabayu's hand...

[Anonymous No.23254284]

why did he love rape so much

[Anonymous No.23254315]

>>23254036
I was intrigued last time you mentioned it and checked it out. Was slightly put off by the author's severe allergy to commas, but I could get past that. Dropped it after one too many usages of "you're" instead of "your." It was something like "you're lessons were hard" or some shit. I thought to myself "if this writer can't even figure out how the word 'you're' works, than he is retarded and I will only lower my own intelligence by reading this.'

[Anonymous No.23254385]

>>23254148
>i really need to read machine translated selfpub gookbabble about loli dragons
kys yourself

[Anonymous No.23254403]

>make some tea
>prop open up a hardcover copy of my favorite fantasy book (dune) on the table
>put on headphones and a playlist of desert music
Yep. It's reading time.

[Anonymous No.23254450]

>>23254403
I never listen to music while reading

[Anonymous No.23254455]

>>23254036
Eh, you got anything else?

[Anonymous No.23254501]

>>23254284
Severian does not rapes, though the death of doctor island here is, wizard knight i think there is,... uhhh what else

[Anonymous No.23254513]

>>23254455
https://chooseyourstory.com/story/Necromancer
https://chooseyourstory.com/story/viewer/default.aspx?StoryId=7397
By the same author

[Anonymous No.23254596]

>>23249502
The Jerusalem man is cool

[Anonymous No.23254598]

>>23254385
MTL, I understand but getting upset just seeing a loli character is kinda concerning. Go to your local therapist.

[Anonymous No.23254604]

>>23251039
I believe Black Sun Rising has this

[Anonymous No.23254779]

>>23253443
I started reading spellsinger by the same author and dropped it when the fucking SPOILERS animals started speaking, so like midway through the first book.

[Anonymous No.23254859]

lol
>WHAT IS THIS ANIME ASS ROMANCE PLOT(Iron prince by Bryce O Connor)Question (self.ProgressionFantasy)

[Anonymous No.23254902]

[Anonymous No.23254911]

>>23252373
wtf, donaldson wrote a sci-fi series? i only know him for thomas covenant, which was great, i legit think he's one of the most underrated writers of all time
thanks i wanna read this now

[Anonymous No.23254914]

>>23252516
they put the focus of the movie on his romantic relationship above all else
there's even really cringy scenes like shani and another girl laughing at him and gossiping like they're school girls
i truly despised it

[Anonymous No.23254938]

>>23254911
>and yet anon didn't ever bother to look what else he's written

[Anonymous No.23254953]

>>23254938
well, i knew he had a bunch of other thomas covenant books, but that's about it
i actually tried reading the series that comes after the initial trilogy but i didn't really like the vibes, i'm content with where the original left off and didn't need more

[Anonymous No.23254954]

>>23254902
excellent post

[Anonymous No.23254968]

rec me something that is Dragon Age Origins vibes that isn't YA

[Anonymous No.23254979]

>>23254968
yikes

[Anonymous No.23254995]

Why the hell is there a "Warhammer 40k LGBT" recommendations chart in the mega

[Anonymous No.23255013]

New book coming next week collecting Tolkien's maps.

[Anonymous No.23255036]

>>23254968
Why not try the Dragon Age novels? That's part of this month's theme.

[Anonymous No.23255083]

>>23254995
Because only faggots read 40k novels in 2024.

[Anonymous No.23255095]

god I love books with quick ben so much
don't care about best girl because a bestest best boy never existed.

[Anonymous No.23255096]

>>23255013
these faggots will never stop trying to monetize every scrap of this man's output
they'd a 300p analysis of his stool sample if they could

[Anonymous No.23255130]

>>23255096
Well he has a very dedicated fandom and scholarship. Just look at all the Wikipedia articles made for him. They're actually pretty good and extensive. I've never seen anything else like it besides The Bible.

[Anonymous No.23255141]

>>23255130
It's shelf candy for redditors who watch Critical Role, not Tolkien fans.

[Anonymous No.23255152]

>>23255141
I wouldn't know. I don't go on Reddit.

[Anonymous No.23255164]

>>23255083
That's a shame. I was interested in the universe, saw a bunch of cool ideas.

[Anonymous No.23255200]

>>23255164
There's still a solid twenty years of novels, short stories, and codex's to have fun with.

[Anonymous No.23255202]

>>23255164
>saw a bunch of cool ideas.
like what

[Anonymous No.23255360]

>>23255202
Probably means all the "game-y" stuff like The Warp, Daemon Weapons/Engines, Imperial Knights, the different Space Marine chapters, the God Emperor and the Golden Throne, the Horus Heresy, etc.

May or may not be aware that all of these ideas were already done and blatantly taken from older books and comics.

[Anonymous No.23255562]

How come every HG Wells collection seems to include the same 6-12 novels?
Is the rest not as good?

[Anonymous No.23255590]

>>23251853
What did you enjoy the most? The priest being faggot and dying way too early? The knight being an absolute cuk? Maybe the girl being oh so unique and benevolent jesus? The tired and old dynamic of "old man grumpy, young girl pure"?

[Anonymous No.23255642]

are there any books where gods are objectively real and like, no one is actually afraid to die because afterlife is assured? it always seemed like an oversight in fiction with active gods when people were afraid to die.

[Anonymous No.23255674]

>>23255562
He's a pretty consistent writer but all of his big titles are foundational genre defining works so they're not going to be left out.
Also mass market publishers aren't going to pick the more controversial titles like the Shape of Things to Come if they're just trying to sell a collection of the big names

[Anonymous No.23255699]

>>23248647
>The Philosopher's Stone by Colin Wilson.
I can't say that I am impressed so far. I'm about 20% in. I read pic related last night and I am not sure if he is trolling or if he seriously thinks he is better than Lovecraft.

[Anonymous No.23255788]

>>23255642
How about books where hell is objectively real but surprisingly few people are afraid to die?

[Anonymous No.23255839]

I read BotNS last year, and I want to listen to the audiobook now. I notice there's four versions. Any opinions on which reader is better?

[Anonymous No.23255848]

>>23255083
Blacks are based, when they start putting Punjabis on the covers is when I stop reading them

[Anonymous No.23255949]

>>23255699
I find this concept kinda dumb. No one has trouble urinating with someone behind them because they're reminded of themselves. They have trouble because they're vulnerable facing the wall exposed with their penis out. I'm sure if you had a recording of yourself or other people on the wall you could easily urinate.

[Anonymous No.23255972]

>>23253443
>boisterous and lusty friend Bereto, a beautiful assassin
>Vixen
Are these female characters?

[Anonymous No.23256005]

>>23255972
No.

[Anonymous No.23256073]

Is this the thread for recommendations?
I would like a good site for r18 stories with plot 100+ chapters with sex scenes and action, I liked blood warlock edge kino but it's a bit much chinese and Darx NTR story on chyoa, but I need more.

[Anonymous No.23256085]

>>23255699
colin wilson is a retard and a fraud

[Anonymous No.23256204]

I know Valis is a classic but what about the other three novels?
I got the first two LoA books for cheap but this one is harder to find in my country so I'm wondering if I should just get Valis alone.

[Anonymous No.23256208]

>>23256073
>cyoa
>>>/vrpg/cyoa

[Anonymous No.23256221]

>>23255699
>>23256085
> Mystical vision should be as natural to men as taking a shit.
Yeah, I'm seeing that.

If your going to call out an author in the preface of your book, and that be the whole point of writing the story, you probably need to be able to back it up.

[Anonymous No.23256233]

>>23256221
you need to keep in mind when reading him that colin is a brainlet that buys into all sorts of mystical hocus pocus
his entire career is built on writing those sorts of bullshit books about how antarctica used to be a technological wonderland and so on and so on
he is a gifted nonfiction writer and he is well-read, more or less, but he came out of that soulless generation of bongers who only value edginess and anything anti-western and anti-establishment

[Anonymous No.23256244]

>>23256073
dominionschain.com

[Anonymous No.23256249]

>>23256208
It's just hosted on that site, it's just a novel at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.23256252]

>>23256204
Valis, Divine Invasion, and Transmigration of Timothy Archer are loosely considered a trilogy since they are all semi autobiographical and Dick was in the same headspace when writing them. Maze of Death is okay it's not his best story about subjective reality but it's a good introduction to his style and mentality.

[Anonymous No.23256256]

>>23255360
Ok what books are daemon weapons from

[Anonymous No.23256419]

>protagonist is a manipulative cunt, literal psycho, but looks like a charismatic cool guy on the outside
Books? Preferably fantasy, because I love magic

[Anonymous No.23256426]

I love female main characters!

[Anonymous No.23256452]

>>23256419
>What I am
vs
>What I want to be

[Anonymous No.23256459]

>>23256419
Andrew Tate's biography

[Anonymous No.23256463]

>>23256459
What's the title? I'd love to read it, I love Andrew Tate

[Anonymous No.23256554]

>>23256426
Me too! I love women. Why would I want to read about men?

[Anonymous No.23256562]

>>23255972
>>23256005
I just looked at some reviews, apparently the assasin is a female and there may even be some romance between main character and female assasin.

[Anonymous No.23256575]

>>23256554
Did you not have a father (or another strong male figure to look up to) in your family?

[Anonymous No.23256577]

>>23256562
Yes, FE male, as in the element, iron. Iron males. FE male ASS ASS IN.

[Anonymous No.23256581]

>>23256577
Kys coomer retard

[Anonymous No.23256583]

>>23256575
Clearly not. Who'd be here if they did?

[Anonymous No.23256596]

>>23256575
Yes and therefore I don't need one to self insert as a manly man in my fiction
Gimme da ladies :)

[Anonymous No.23256607]

>>23256452
>>23256459
You guys jest but I was reading Regressor Instruction Manual and I liked the protagonist, too bad it is a webnovel and fails at everything else. I just want something similar.

[Anonymous No.23257068]

>>23256073
Dodging Prison and Stealing Witches

[Anonymous No.23257096]

>>23254501
Spartan gang x Io, Pausanias x "ghost" kid

[Anonymous No.23257157]

>>23254284
Rape is, sometimes, a necessary plot device.

[Anonymous No.23257305]

>>23257157
rape is sometimes necessary

[Anonymous No.23257356]

>>23257305
if you are a weak man, yes.

[Anonymous No.23257365]

>>23256419
Unironically read Bakker.

[Anonymous No.23257370]

I've noticed a disturbing increase in adverbs present in book 4 of the wheel of time. you can really tell he was rushing.
>>23247203
the wheel of time is overwritten and underdeveloped, or rather, it is developed like a child would develop - except I have seen children write (eragon) and it is better than the wheel of time

[Anonymous No.23257382]

>>23257068
That's abbandoned. And really bad.

[Anonymous No.23257410]

>>23257356
Weak men wouldn't be able to overpower a woman

[Anonymous No.23257478]

>>23257474
>>23257474
>>23257474
New