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23234015 No.23234015 [Reply] [Original]

ok this was way better than crime and punishment

>> No.23234094

Not a high bar desu

>> No.23234110

No the fuck it was not you retarded nigger

>> No.23234153

>>23234015
I am trying to stop being him but instead of seething rage there's just this emptiness left.

>> No.23234198

>>23234015
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.

>> No.23234276

>>23234110
yes it was kike

>> No.23234323
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23234323

>my brother says the underground man reminds him of me

That's not really a compliment though right?

>> No.23234493

I am the ubderground man. Better than those stuck in society, I read the greatest roman emperors and are better than those other people. I have Plato in my heart, the other soullless people are weak compared to my power. Dostoyevski's only sin was he believed Jesus was real when he was an anti rome liar

>> No.23234496

>>23234015

Notes is a weaker work, it's a decent satire but D's greatest strengths lie when the work is long enough to be able to contain the mass of conflicting ideas he can play against each other in all their variations; also with a work of longer length the fact he is weak in his style (and no, no translations can hide that) can be hidden by his ability to show off his strengths

However, it IS one of the best portrayals of ressentiment.

>> No.23234601

>>23234323
My friend said the same thing about me. Anon, we might be in trouble

>> No.23234712

>>23234015
>ok this was way better than crime and punishment
Yes, Nethack is way better than crime and punishment.

>> No.23234742

>>23234015
Is this website 100% retarded? What the fuck is this?

>> No.23235629

>>23234742
What did he mean by this?