/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23232867]

It’s his birthday. Say something nice about him.

[Anonymous No.23232871]

something nice about him

[Anonymous No.23232876]

>>23232867
at least he wasn't a leftist i guess

[Anonymous No.23232879]

>>23232867
He's as handsome as me, I'll give him that.

[Anonymous No.23232882]

I can't sneed

[Anonymous No.23232883]

>>23232867
Was he the oldest ever convert to Catholicism?

[Anonymous No.23232887]

seems like he actually lived a life those twitter BAP types love to pretend they do

[Anonymous No.23232905]

>>23232867
He was a superior critic of modernity and technology to Heidegger.

[Anonymous No.23233004]

[Anonymous No.23233006]

>>/lit/thread/23224611#p23232276
So why was this fags posts deleted right alongsides the spambots?

[Anonymous No.23233012]

>>23233006
jesus christ
jewish schizophrenia is a real thing anons, don't ever forget it

[Anonymous No.23233014]

>>23232867
He had interest in entomology, did he write any stories about bugs?

[Anonymous No.23233016]

>>23233006
holy shit

[Anonymous No.23233017]

>>23233006
Junger was against antisemitism
>The Jew is not liberalism's father but its son, and so he cannot play a creative role, either good or bad, in anything that concerns German life.
>Anti-Semites are like a certain sort of bacteria hunter who when they figure they've exterminated a certain spore perceive a thousand new ones. This is a procedure that can only end in madness, to the point that as in delirium tremens on sees at every step Jews swarming like white mice.

[Anonymous No.23233023]

>>23233017
>compares jews to bacteria

[Anonymous No.23233031]

>>23233017
>The Jew is not liberalism's father
Is he not? I thought the intellectual descent of liberalism goes something like
>judaism
>hellenized judaism
>christianity
>semi-pagan renaissance catholicism
>protestantism (re-judaization of late renaissance catholicism)
>liberalism

[Anonymous No.23233038]

>>23233031
That would make the Jew merely one of liberalism's many great-great-great-great-great-great grandfathers -- as well as every other Western ideology

[Anonymous No.23233039]

>>23233031
wasn't judaism (hebrew religion, more like) influenced by other religions?

[Anonymous No.23233049]

>>23233004
That doesn’t explain why modern leftists are out of the closet homos

[Anonymous No.23233051]

>>23233039
i haven't seen this laid out clearly anywhere but my understanding is that modern Judaism is a reaction to Christianity. at some point they went from being just another desert tribe to the uniquely sinister cabal they are today.

[Anonymous No.23233053]

>>23233049
>modern leftists are out of the closet homos
True and fascists are closeted ones.

[Anonymous No.23233056]

>>23233049
Oppression points.

[Anonymous No.23233058]

>>23233053
most right-wing homosexuality is a return of perfectly healthy hebephilia which has been repressed by the culture.

[Anonymous No.23233060]

>>23233039
It is a weird spinoff of canaanite polytheism but substantially it became so different that it might as well not matter what it was before, once it underwent the yahwist-monotheist revolution for all intents and purposes it became the ethnocult that it is today.

[Anonymous No.23233067]

>>23233006
Sheesh…

[Anonymous No.23233070]

>>23232867
Cute

[Anonymous No.23233078]

I've heard that Jewish converts must be circumcised at all costs but Muslim converts aren't required to do that. There's something specially evil about Judaism.

[Anonymous No.23233082]

>>23233078
Difference is Jews don't want you to convert to their religion.

[Anonymous No.23233083]

>>23233049
They tried to use gays as a revolutionary subject, but gays - no matter what either side says - are almost always apolitical. They just want license to fuck each other.

[Anonymous No.23233087]

>>23233083
VGH... faggot männerbund...

[Anonymous No.23233092]

>>23233078
>>23233082

[Anonymous No.23233160]

>>23233006
>this freak went schizo to hide his meltdown and thought no one would notice if he got the thread deleted.
Kekaroo

[Anonymous No.23233173]

>>23233006
>replies spaced exactly a minute and a second before the bot
>this freak went schizo to hide his meltdown and thought no one would notice if he got the thread deleted.
Kekaroo

[Anonymous No.23234806]

A great man before he became a libtard and ruined his mighty brain with lsd

[Anonymous No.23234814]

>>23233004
That Engels quote is spot on. Lmao. He predicted our tyranny of faggotry and sex traffickers like P Diddy

[Anonymous No.23234816]

>>23233004
wtf I'm a leftist now

[Anonymous No.23235451]

>>23233083
You’re an astute observer of the world. We like men simply because. Take Ernst here….if a woman had sex with him there would always be conditions attached and expectations. I would expect nothing…wouldn’t even care if he touched me. His political views….completely irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.23235462]

>>23233083
Homosexuals aren't limited to any politic.. they just want ass

[Anonymous No.23235544]

>>23233082
Too bad

[Anonymous No.23235680]

>>23232867
He lived a cool life - I like Allan Mitchell's biography 'The Devil's Captain'.
There's an amusing irony that Wewelsburg archives dates their translations of Jünger's 'Interwar Articles' using an esoteric Hitlerist convention (where Jünger criticised the Nazis repeatedly - for example, calling National Socialism the ametaphysical application of total mobilisation (easiest examples are given in note 14 of Stern's book)).
For anyone interested in the differences between Jünger's trilogy works and his personal life, you can compare his notes on General Nogi in 'Über den Schmerz' (1934) with his own reaction to his son Ernstel's death (1944, but he found out in 45 - see Mitchell pg 62).
For those interested, Jünger's philosophy - not Heidegger's bizarre interpretation (Nietzschean projection) of it - is essentially that we can have certain sorts of intuitive perceptions (direct experiences of ultimate reality) and on this basis he comes to his advanced epistemology (look up Figal's comparative chapter on Goethe's Morphology) and his metaphysical commitments (sometimes called Geist (spirit), Wald (forest), Ungesonderte (the undifferentiated), etc.). But imo if you go back to the Fronterlebnis works his intuitive perceptions are basically aesthetic experiences and his later notion of the Eintretendes (supervening-element) - which confirms that an experience is an intuitive perception (see 'Approaches', e.g. Freise translation pg 29) - is only possible if those earlier experiences were themselves intuitive perceptions (which they're not).

[Anonymous No.23235752]

>>23232867
cute boy!!

[Anonymous No.23236365]

>>23232867
Does anyone else think that On the Marble Cliffs is not an epic slam on Hitler? Or just me?

[Anonymous No.23237258]

>>23232867
I just finished reading Storms today. I hate to say it, but I am not sure I liked it as much as I would. Though usually I don't read memoirs at all, so there's that factor in play.
While I at no point hated reading it, it still took me few months to get through, and I had trouble retaining and following sequence of events portrayed in there (Never been to France and Benelux, so it's kind of hard for me, with just moderate degree of interest in ww1 to place the happenings of the book in space). The general takeaway are in broad sense interesting, insightful and to the point. But it's also hard to judge he book as depiction of reality considering how many times he rewrote the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.23237359]

>>23236365
You lack media literacy if you find fascists sympathetic in clearly anti-fascist works.

[Anonymous No.23237437]

>>23232867
What makes a man go from a jolly officer reminiscing about the great war and inspiring thousands of men, to a political zombie, saying "none of this matters, go live innawoods, but not real real innawoods, become a psychotic escapist , cause they'll cheat you out of your freedoms anyway"
Its weird, der waldgang reads like a manual for pussies and leftists to estrange and disconnect from modern world
Very different style and message 30 years later, between those two essays

[Anonymous No.23237441]

It's interesting to see how /lit/ idolized this man to now apprecaiting that he was a meme all along. Celine is /our/guy. Junger represented the aristocracy and was a war mongering liberal. Celine was a man of soul who rejected the jewish ways.

[Anonymous No.23237706]

I did acid because of him and had sex on molly because of him best expieriences of my life, thank you Ernie

[Anonymous No.23237718]

>>23237437
>>23237441
He read nietzsche even further that along with socializing with Heidegger and he knew that every single one of you (ideologies) were the same nihilistic holes. No wonder he converted to Catholicism in his late years

[Anonymous No.23237796]

>>23232867
The Glass Bees was good.
His book on altered states was good.

[Anonymous No.23237870]

>>23237359
Jünger said regarding On the Marble Cliffs that, “even in occupied France, people soon realised that ‘the shoe fits many feet.’” I simply didn’t see Hitler unequivocally in the Head Forester and trust me, I was looking very hard. Lacking media literacy? Your response seems to lack basic English grammatical competence. Have a nice day.

[Anonymous No.23238451]

>>23232867
*her
*her

[Anonymous No.23238502]

>>23237437
idk probably the whole eastern front and germany being forever ruined after the war thing, maybe you just couldn't be an annoying online larper in 1951

[Anonymous No.23238638]

>>23232867
his novels are overrated. it's just him sitting in a trench, getting wounded, evacuated to a town while his platoon gets completely annihilated then sitting in a town and so on
>uhhhm that's how real wars are fought sweatie
well that's not very interesting to read

[Anonymous No.23238641]

Junger is great not only because his writing was great and his philosophy, in particular that based on warfare, pain etc. was based on real experiences and not from some general or high ranking officer sitting in the back (although this isn't really true for WWI) but someone who was literally in the thick of it and part of what were near suicide missions in trench clearing. It's much easier to see the reasoning, understand it and appreciate what Junger says about war and pain than a lot of others. Any fucker can go "war is hell" but not many can dive deeper into it. Another reason is because ideologue losers can't just claim him and say "LE BASTE MAN IS WITH US!" You'll see a lot of outright lies or fanfiction being written in Junger threads by faggots coping because of that. His beliefs evolved and fluctuated as time went on, as most people's do if you aren't dedicated to making your political and moral philosophy your personality, and if you read something like "The Peace" you see there's a lot of emotion behind it, lot of sadness as well because as the war dragged on he basically became a recluse. It's all very human, there's no hidden agenda on his part, no lust to destroy the world and take over as supreme ruler like you see in a lot of ideologues.
Junger was aggressively human and didn't need to hide behind some veneer of deep intellectualism or even write in a particularly "difficult" fashion. It's all in plain language and easy to read and follow. I'd call him babby's first right wing philosophy but it's a bit of an insult to what he writes.
>>23236365
It was very much an attack on fascism/communism. They were uncultured brutes relying on nothing but violence, destruction and resentment in his eyes.

[Anonymous No.23238647]

>>23237870
>I simply didn’t see Hitler unequivocally in the Head Forester
That was supposed to be Goering I'm pretty sure. It's been a while since I read it though.

[Anonymous No.23238724]

>>23232867
He invented magical realism

[Anonymous No.23238881]

>>23232867
Just read Storm of Steel like a week ago. It's good. I felt adrenaline reading the 1918 Spring Offensive chapter. When they smashed through the British trenches like Berserkers. Routed them. They chaotically retreat across the open paddocks in their rear. And the Germans are just pursuing them. And there was no unit cohesion. That had broken down. And it's all just individual initiative. The soldiers just joining loose mobs to attack the scattered pockets of British holding out or running.

The book is brutal. The way he introduces someone new with a cute anecdote and then ends the paragraph with like 'he died a few weeks later from a shell splinter through his head and his brains came out'.

A part that I've thought about since, when he wrote about seeing a truck driver split his thumb when cranking. And how it almost made him sick. And by this point, he has seen thousands of dead. Easily. His friends killed. Mutilated and bloody. He's seen all that, but a truck driver's split thumb makes him sick. And he explains that it's because of the context. Like, that's a normal injury. An injury he would've seen pre-war. So it seems like he sees it through civilian eyes. And that's why it made him feel that way. It was just an interesting thig. That he still had that distinction within him.

[Anonymous No.23238897]

>>23238641
>>23238647
I read it primarily as an attack on communism. In my eyes, the Head Forester represents the chaotic spirit driving communism, i.e., the desire to level all healthy hierarchies and return everything to undifferentiated forest. I saw the critique pointedly turn to Nazism with the introduction of the character accompanying the young prince to confront the chaos unleashed by the Head Forester. This character clearly represented the SS while the prince represented the aristocracy. Here Jünger also expressed disdain for the present state of the aristocracy, but by the end of the end of the book viewed salvation in terms of a reinvigorated aristocracy. I’m open to other interpretations, but given Jünger‘s short epilogue, this one seems the most reasonable when trying to place the story in the context of Europe circa 1939. Yet apparently no one reads the book this way??

[Anonymous No.23238957]

>>23238897
I don't think Junger wrote it with a single ideology to attack in mind, as in he sat at his desk and went "I will write an attack on Nazism". Both Nazism and Communism were radical and that is against his beliefs to begin with. The whole description of the Marina, the Marble Cliffs, the very religious imagery and strong presence of nature etc. are all in conflict with the brutish manner of Nazism and Communism. His nationalist side would obviously have him lean to Nazism over Communism but at the heart of it he wasn't a big fan of either regime.

[Anonymous No.23239167]

>>23236365
>le epic slam
>le bash on le fash
>amirite, guise?

[Anonymous No.23239207]

>>23238957
>>23239167
So do we tell the kids that it is le epic bash on the fash or not? Because that’s how it’s viewed and presented to people who will probably never read it, i.e., how it is propagandized.

[Anonymous No.23239383]

>>23239207
>we
It's ambiguous because Junger was ambiguous.
Don't drag me into your r*eddit drama.

[Anonymous No.23239550]

>>23235752
this
i would love to go on a date with him and make him a bit more happy

[Anonymous No.23239754]

>>23239207
>So do we tell the kids that it is le epic bash on the fash or not? Because that’s how it’s viewed and presented to people who will probably never read it, i.e., how it is propagandized.
It is anti-fascist though. Junger was not a fascist and did not like fascism. He didn't hate it as much as Communism but he did not like fascism on a very basic level.

[Anonymous No.23239801]

>>23232905
You are thinking of his brother. That book is written by his brother.

[Anonymous No.23239833]

>>23238881
>split his thumb when cranking
BEEN THERE BROTHER

[Anonymous No.23239854]

>>23238881
That Spring Offensive chapter had some of the best prose I've ever read. When he's listening to their artillery to the point there's not even a gap in the noises then tops it off with the beautiful
>The sense of individuality was lost for we knew the fate of the world was being decided
Absolute fucking kino. Not a lot of people can be in such a situation and have the self-awarness mix with the adrenaline to realise what part they are playing in history.

[Anonymous No.23239872]

>>23239383
>>23239754
Actually twitter drama. Saw a thread where some guy was presenting this as a hardcore anti-Nazi polemic. It may express vieled dissent, but I don't think it is what people commonly make it out to be (a hardcore anti-Nazi polemic). Instead, it should be presented as a fun read containing a high level of artisitic merit, not some device to cleave the kids from their budding anti-Semitism.

[Anonymous No.23240042]

>>23234806
I don’t think LSD can ruin the brain and change someones views majorly, but more inportantly, when did Jünger become a Libtard and where can I find out more. (If real.)