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The literary industry is gatekept by SSRI zombie cat ladies with no inner monologue or ability to imagine things.

>> No.23223257

>>23223246
One time I mentioned my inner monologue to my psychiatrist, and she asked me: "you hear voices?"
A very unsettling response.

>> No.23223709

>>23223257
No fucking way lmao

>> No.23223714

>>23223257
No psychiatrist said this. You spoke to a fucking NP

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>>23223257

>> No.23224271

>>23223246
Well then, kill them

>> No.23224759

>>23223257
I wouldn’t be surprised if many high IQ people get falsely labeled as mentally ill due to psychiatrists being quintessential NPCs women.

>> No.23224773

>>23223246
Unfortunately most creative industries are like this. The harsh reality is that you have to become independently wealthy if you want to bypass the clown world.

>> No.23224779

>>23224773
Well self-publishing is always possible.

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>>23223246
Good riddance.
Supply and demand of the proletariat, sweetie.

>> No.23224784

>>23224779
Yes I know. But there are a lot of costs that go into this. For one, you have to pay to support yourself through the duration of writing the book. This takes money. Second, you have to pay to advertise the book, pay localization services to translate it and sell it for you overseas, etc.

>> No.23225085

>>23224759
Psychologists, yes.
The majority of psychiatrists I've met are apathetic antisocial men who generally just think about money. They couldn't give less of a shit about you.

>> No.23225121

>>23224783
*sweaty

>> No.23225129

>>23223257
>>23223709
>>23223714
When do I need to start to be concerned about inner monologue being indistinguishable from schizophrenia? I’m not visiting a psych

>> No.23225146

I was telling my mother just last night that any time she feels bad about our financial situation, she should blame our terrible country instead of feeling like she did something wrong, because she was the absolute model of a successful middle class citizen who contributes to their country, stays out of debt, rises above the station they were born in, and in turn raises kids who rise above her station. She is the living epitome of the Western dream and the entire project of the West: the ideal of the "middle class" that thrives by its own efforts and its own innate pride and desire for self-betterment. She's proof that humanity is basically good. It's not HER fault that the country she's living in chose to become a farcical Africa-tier failed state in her lifetime and then actually flood itself with literal Africans and Indians who consume 95% of social resources. Has my mother ever littered intentionally in her entire life? Even once? Have I? No. Have any of my siblings? No. So whence all the fucking litter in this city? In our hometown? Why do I live in filth and decay, normalized? Is it because my mother rose from lower middle class to middle class and enabled me to enter the upper middle class? Is that why there's filth and trash and turds all over the floor everywhere I go? Is it my model middle class mother's fault that every street in town is filled with drug addicts and schizophrenics who feel instinctive entitlement to and ownership of this once beautiful city? No.

So why do you feel bad that you can't get published in this dead, zombified, nightmarish era of pure hell? Why do you feel bad when the publishing industry equivalent of an 80 IQ Pakistani, who brought his entire family over because your corrupt country inexplicably offered him free money to be a net loss to the economy, at the expense of the native taxpaying and GDP producing population, decides that your book isn't good enough because it doesn't have enough children who cut their tits off in it? Why do you insist on playing by a rigged game's rules? You are playing Calvinball with schizophrenic women and black littering pothead mental patients with a 1/3 chance to be in prison at any given time. You are handing the keys to your life over to satanic degenerates and chemically obliterated circus freaks.

This is Babylon. Stop CRYING that the Ministry of What's Good in Babylon currently issues daily proclamations that CUTTING YOUR TITS OFF AND LITTERING is good, and the Ministry of What's Bad currently issues daily proclamations that BATHING AND PERFORMING ASSIGNED TASKS ADEQUATELY are bad. FUCK Babylon.

>> No.23225157

>>23225146
Great breakdown but I think we get sad because no matter how bad the world gets, we still want to live a good life on our terms. I think if we try hard enough, we still can.

>> No.23225165

>>23225146
She voted for Obama so yes, it is your nigger loving bitch of a mother's fault.

>> No.23225169

>>23225129
When it has a different voice than your own and you don't control it? Like schizophrenics can literally have heated debates with themselves.

>> No.23225175

>>23224773
None of that is true. You losers just have outdated tastes.

>> No.23225186

>>23223257
>>23223246
>>23225129
People need to stop taking pride in having inner monologues and mental visualisations. Everyone can talk to themself and picture an apple in their head. You think it makes you smart but it's like bragging about having two hands and feet. You aren't olympic sprinters just because you're faster than the small proportion of people missing legs. Visit any social media post about this and every comment talks about their internal monologue or ability to see a realistic apple. It's a circlejerk that only exists to make you feel smart and special

>> No.23225195

>>23225186
I never claimed to be special

>> No.23225199

>>23223714
>MD reflexively attacking a midlevel
Always funny to see

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>>23225175
An illiterate woman posted this

>> No.23225302

>>23225186
Are you stupid? Why wouldn't a comment about an inner monologue come up naturally while talking about mental health? Who said anything about bragging?

>> No.23225802

>>23225199
It’s only funny because it is true: midlevels are a fucking plague when it comes to anything other than taking blood pressure and wiping patient asses. Complete retards in every other case

>> No.23225861

>>23225186
The whole reason inner monologues have come up in recent years is because the idea that someone doesn't have one is bizarre. It was never meant to make you feel special, just to make other people feel stupid.

>> No.23226256

>>23225146
This is antisemitic

>> No.23226260

Believe it or not, academia is as well. The typical academic administration is 40+, never married or divorced, obese, female, shitty meme degree from mediocre school, hates white men with a passion.

>> No.23226332

>>23226260
don't forget the fact that they can often overrule the lecturers

>> No.23226355

>>23226260
It's not just admin lol. The professors as well. It's not as bad in stem as in humanities, but the last few decades have seen those types seep in and parasite off of autists and socially inept men. The amount of LGBTQBLM+ garbage I saw in my physics department is absurd.

>> No.23226409

>>23226355
I can’t say that was my experience with faculty, but I studied economics, which is basically STEM. I think physics and actual sciences and engineering had it worse than us because the lefty people and women infiltrated it due to all the le heckin’ science propaganda. Nobody considers economics a science or interesting so nobody cares. It’s just a bunch men doing math to calculate made up attributes for capacitors or whatever.

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>>23225146
I just self publish I dont really care about sales. Many authors failed to move units in their lifetimes, it's not like this era is any different.

>> No.23226436

>>23226260
Women should have never been educated or taught to read.

>> No.23226625

>>23226409
>but I studied economics, which is basically STEM
kek that nigga serious lmao bruh fr that's a major L :skull:

>> No.23226683

>>23225186
>he can’t see the apple

>> No.23226692

>>23226625
Don't you see? The "E" stands for economics.

>> No.23226709

>>23223257
lol

>> No.23226736

>>23223257
Never under any circumstances speak to a psychiatrist. They are all evil people who's only goal is to turn you into a dead eyed zombie for profit

>> No.23226752

>>23226736
I'm inclined to believe you despite having no experience with therapy. Is there a profit motive to help people get better compared to keeping them dependent on sessions/drugs?

>> No.23226772

>>23226692
I went out with a girl who went to a top school for her bachelors. She claimed to had done math for 1.5 years before switching to economics and graduating with honors. Both of us were doing our phds (me in physics, her in econ) when we met. That bitch didn't know what a divergence of a vector field was, what a major fucking turn off. All the "math and science" you do there boils down to masturbating to statistics.

>> No.23227033

>>23226436
I want intelligent women to be educated, but I would never give them any form of power or governmental control whatsoever.

>> No.23227038

>>23226772
Kek have you talked to your doctor about Autism anon?

>> No.23227039

>>23227033
Women should never have any power, except over me because that's hot.

>> No.23227147

>>23226752
Capturing your soul for state and capital

>> No.23227297

>>23225169
Sounds to me like going to write a masterpiece then

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>>23225186
HAHA this nigga can't rotate shapes

>> No.23227960

>>23223714
>to a fucking NP
a No Psychiatrist?

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>>23225146
This isn't Facebook, fuck off with your dumbass rant. I can't imagine seeing what's going on and blaming it on brown people when greedy, rich, and powerful people (majority white) control EVERYTHING that matters. You deserve everything bad and more some by being a shitty human being. Maybe your mom isn't that good of a person since she raised you, a stupid whining bitch who can't help being an asshole

>> No.23228009

There was a great Twitter thread about books that have prose that only explains characters' actions and their dialogue, no sense of real personality since theirs no style. If you look at popular books with medicore quality, you see this style everywhere. This type of prose is one of the biggest culprits of the publishing industry nowadays, in my opinion, and many others. It's the lack of standards, which makes simple books popular. A lot of books, even some literary ones, are written like a pitch to a movie producer (what some guy said in the Twitter thread) or its infantizling. Since literary fiction is inherently slow and time-consuming to an overly consumer culture. The market for literary books that truly challenge the reader or have an interesting prose that needs to be studied is just not important anymore for a lot of people. Publishers know what sells, so they're going to take the most profitable option even if they may dislike the quality. It's also good to keep in mind that editors and literary agents truly know the quality of a work in the publishing industry, publishers can be hit or miss if they understand great literary art currently. So I wouldn't put all the blame on just the publishers, blame our consumer culture, and the infantizling that's been eroding America way before the 21st century

>> No.23228019

>>23223246
>The literary industry is being kept away from me by these clearly inferior women who should be relegated to a lower status.
>Surely the problem couldn't be me! After all, I am significantly better than them?

>> No.23228031

this is cope that you have to tell yourself because you have no actual talent.

>> No.23228035

>>23223257
Its literally their job to ask that, you probably worded it autistically and they wanted to make sure

>> No.23228046

>>23228031
DAW / Penguin:
>To this end, DAW is actively seeking new works of science fiction and fantasy written by and/or featuring people of color, Native people, disabled people, neurodiverse people, LGBTQIA+ people, and those from other underrepresented or marginalized communities.
Triada US:
>ALWAYS seeking: diversity. Race, ethnicity, gender identity, sexual orientation, ability, mentality, health, economic status, religious affiliation, all of it. The obvious shouldn’t need to be said — that I want my projects to reflect the beautiful diversity of the world, that I want to see and share with others life through another’s eyes, that I want to see these differences expressed through art and creation and culture, that these books need to be on bookshelves — but that’s the state of things. So yes, there is no question to it: I want diversity.
Book Ends Literary Agency:
>This is your semi-annual reminder that while I'm looking for diversity and own voices across the board, I am particularly interested in seeing submissions in the mystery and historical romance genres. Please send! #mswl
Knight Agency:
>Really want to find queer teen lit.
P.S. Literacy Agency:
>“Young Adult: LGBTQ+ rom com, psychological horror, a new take on vampires, a girl in a rock band, an eerie mystery.”
KT Literacy
>#ownvoices#marginalizedvoicesfriendship-based adventure a la Goonies, please! #MG #YA #amquerying #amwriting
Lynette Novak
>Seeking: manuscripts from POC, diverse authors,#LGBTQ,#OwnVoices, & all voices that have been silenced but NEED to be heard. I support you & want to share your stories with the world.
Kiki Nguyen
>No funny business, but I want more tattooed queer LIs, THANK YOU. Neck tata, knuckle tats, knee tats, lips tats, I’ll take an eyelid or two as well. I am DESPERATE.#mswl
Leah Spann, DAW / Penguin
>I am always looking for inclusive storytelling. LGBTQIA+ characters, less explored mythologies, SFF from authors of color, neurodivergence.
Elana Roth Parker
>I have never stopped looking for Black voices to add to my list of authors. If you write fun, escapist stories for MG or YA, I'm here! Currently hungry for rom-coms and light fantasy, but open to an adventure.
Lynnette Novak
>Seeking: manuscripts from POC, diverse authors,#LGBTQ,#OwnVoices, & all voices that have been silenced but NEED to be heard. I support you & want to share your stories with the world.
I just LOVE reposting this on /lit/

>> No.23228053

>>23228046
Nice anon, you went on a scavenger hunt by searching key words that just say they are open to manuscripts by POC, not that they are out to get you if you are white. The victim complex that you guys have is insane

>> No.23228056

>>23228046
>neurodiverse people
Thats 95% of /lit/, whats stopping you from submitting? Oh right you never finished anything

>> No.23228062

>>23228056
No point in working on anything if I know it will be rejected.

>> No.23228073

>>23228056
>that's 95% of /lit/
Hahaha. No. No, you see, your mistake here is you're using the old 20th century definition. Not the new and improved woke 21st century definition. Diversity no longer means "showing a great deal of variety," it means "black." Disabled does not refer to a war veteran who lost his legs, but to a girl who needs her emotional support pupper when going to the weed dispensary or else she'll have a panic attack.

And me, personally, I think it's absolutely disgusting that people are proud of being autistic. Like wearing a great big name tag on your chest that says "I'm retarded!" If I have to pretend to be retarded to get published, drool on my shirt, wear a bicycle helmet all the time, and go "DURRRRR!" then I'd rather not be published.

>> No.23228079

cancel the internet

>> No.23228095

>>23228053
a scavenger hunt implies that there was searching. Go pick a random literary agent or agency and I guarantee that you will find some similar bullshit on your first pick.

>> No.23228119

>>23228073
Absolutely mind broken

>> No.23228133

>>23228073
>drool on my shirt, wear a bicycle helmet all the time, and go "DURRRRR!"
That's the old, 20th century version of "neurodiverse." Today neurodiverse means: pink hair, tattoos, genderfluid, ADD/bipolar, etc.

>> No.23228212

>>23227038
If someone tells me they're a math major, I assume they actually know some shit and it's something common we can discuss. I would rather date a dumb nursing or gened major than a pretentious bitch who tries to show off her supposed intelligence and gets unintentionally dabbed on. There's a specific archetype of cunty women who do this and they're all insufferable.

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>> No.23228325

>>23225146
Let me guess....Canada?

>> No.23228339

>>23228009
Ignoring the multiple spelling errors in your post, I'll assume you're an ESL. As for your argument , there's nothing wrong with that style of writing. Books ARE scripts, and it's been this way since Hollywood started.

>> No.23228425

>>23227984
>This isn't Facebook
Most 4chan posts with more than three replies will end up on facebook.

>> No.23228427

>>23228339
You’re an effeminate retard.

>> No.23228440

>>23228427
Why are you even on /lit/ moron.

>> No.23228442

>>23228440
I have better taste in books than you, you unread retard. Come back when you have read more than 50 books in your entire life.

>> No.23228447

>>23228440
Ignoring the multiple grammatical errors in your post, I'll assume you're an ESL.

>> No.23228450

>>23228442
>>23228447
Mate chill, go back and reread how many errors you made in your post. Don't need to be so upset that you samefag over being called out. This autism isn't becoming of you.

>> No.23228453

>>23228450
You’re hardly literate.

>> No.23228459

>>23228453
>Admitting you're dyslexic
Bold strategy

>> No.23228463

>>23228459
Learn how to use proper punctuation and grammar, Paco.

>> No.23228471

>>23228463
Lmao I'll let you have the last say in this argument since you're taking this very seriously have a nice day retard

>> No.23228473

>>23228471
KWAB! You are an ESL.

>> No.23228755

>>23228019
This but unironically. I've tried to get my diary published 6 times and those used whores keep turning me down. Whatever, just means it'll be the next Harry Potter or Anne of Green Gables.

>> No.23228780

>>23226625
What are you implying? Economics curricula are made almost entirely a series of mathematics and statistics courses, if you didn’t know.

>>23226772
Are you retarded? How is not obvious to you that the sort of mathematics in an economics department and a mechanical engineering department diverge while both being mathematical? Obviously, you will get more into vector analysis while she will have spent more time with time series and regression analyses. The thing about Econ is that while it’s always mathematical, the level of mathematics is pretty much up to the individual. You can do 4 years of calculus, 3 of calculus and multivariate, 2 of calculus, 1 of multivariate, and 1 of vectors, etc. but you mathbugs don’t get any choice.

>> No.23228788

>>23228780
cope and seethe, econ “scientist”

>> No.23228812

>>23228046
There are literally hundreds of agencies and thousands of agents. Yes it is bad but it's not everyone.

>> No.23228848

>>23228812
yeah? I'd pay good money for a list of non-woke agencies and publishers. I can only think of one, and they're literal white supremacists.

>> No.23228865

Maybe your novel just isn't that good

>> No.23230066

>>23228848
>literal white supremacists
Whomst?

>> No.23230072

>>23228788
Nobody in econ calls themself a scientist or thinks of themself like a scientist

>> No.23230089

>>23228812
No. It pretty much is every single one. You clearly don’t understand how publishing works. These publishers rely on patronage from larger interests groups and purchasers of books. Those groups and purchasers are interested in politics. For them, books are basically just propaganda. And since conservative groups do the same thing but aren’t really interested in fiction or poetry to further their ends, that means fiction and poetry is monopolized by lefty publishers. And it is almost all of them because the ones who won’t do this don’t operate for very long. There’s no money in publishing only white male authors anymore, even if the only good books are written by white male authors.

>> No.23230112

>>23230066
Antelope Hill Publishing. If I submitted to them I might actually have a shot of being published, but I don't think I want to be associated with them.

>> No.23230114

>>23230089
I think there is an enormous market for non-woke fiction. Whoever is first to capitalize on that will strike gold.
>hold my beer

>> No.23230134

>>23230112
Ehh, yeah, I would avoid. I'm pretty much a white nationalist myself, but organizations like those are cringe.

>> No.23230396

>>23224773
Agreed. Money is unfortunately everything.

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>>23230089
Write better, chud.

>> No.23230529

>>23230112
They do some pretty good work. As Ezra Pound said:
>Jefferson thought the formal features of the American system would work, and they did work till the time of general Grant but the condition of their working was that inside them there should be a de facto government composed of sincere men willing the national good. When the men of their understanding, and when the nucleus of the national mind hasn’t the moral force to translate knowledge into action I don’t believe it matters a damn what legal forms or what administrative forms there are in a government. The nation will get the staggers.
>I think the American system de jure is probably quite good enough, if there were only 500 men with guts and the sense to USE it, or even with the capacity for answering letters, or printing a paper.

>> No.23230605

>>23230114
You still don't get it. It doesn't matter if there's an untapped market.
There are government grants in my country that give blank checks to publishers if they publish books that align with their values.

This means no publisher is looking for anything other than fat black cripple dykes writing books about anything other than white healthy men.

These grants are pure corruption. They actively tell publishers what to print to get their free check.

>> No.23230614

>>23230112
Your writing fucking sucks and you’re just coping for being mediocre

>> No.23230818

>>23230614
Remember to take your pills, retard.

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>>23230112
>Google Antelope Hill
lmfao

>> No.23231235

>>23230112
They're basically a self-publishing agency. I have one of their books, and it has several typographical inconsistencies. Plus, they use the KDP print-on-demand model, so the print quality is quite low.

>> No.23231278

>SSRI zombie cat ladies
Just say millennials instead of trying to cover up for your failed generation, faggot.

>> No.23231309

>>23231278
Your generation can't even read.

>> No.23231312

>>23231309
Your generation can't even own a home.

>> No.23231319

>>23228848
woke is so mainstream at this point that the only non-woke publishers are going to be explicitly far-right, like Antelope Hill, Arktos, or Imperium Press

>> No.23231533

>>23225186
but I am smart and special
the smartest and specialist boy that ever lived

>> No.23231536

>>23225186
>People need to stop taking pride in having inner monologues and mental visualisations.
Yes.
>Everyone can talk to themself and picture an apple in their head.
No.

>> No.23231542

>>23231309
Zoomers are also the fattest generation ever and it's not close.

>> No.23231547

>>23231153
>he doesn't know
https://youtu.be/otwkXZ0SmTs?si=epaD5kSvUgvwAS-s

>> No.23231648

>>23227984
(((majority white)))
post nose, shlomo

>> No.23231653

>>23230614
Insults only hurt when there's a possibility they could be true.

>> No.23231692

>>23228788
Economists are the same tier of science as psychology and political science. Give 'em a break.

>> No.23231829

>>23231312
Bragging about sabotaging economies and destroying nations for personal gain is a real good way to get what's coming to you. One of the greatest injustices in this world is that Boomers will keep kicking the can down the road and likely get to die of natural causes before the consequences of both their actions and their inaction is fully manifest.
For your sake; you better hope you're a boomer and not a Gen X while spouting that crap like you're proud of it.
No ivory tower is invincible.

>> No.23231909

>>23230818
Noce cope, loser. Doesn’t change the fact that your writing fucking sucks so instead you whinge about the state of publishing like the loser that you are

>> No.23231946

>>23227960
Nurse practitioner, I had to see one once before I could be assigned a real shrink.