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Three fourths of my students are functionally illiterate.

>> No.23223067

>>23223060
What grade?

>> No.23223070

>>23223060
hm. that's not good.

>> No.23223071

>>23223067
11 & 12

>> No.23223081

>>23223060
the race?

>> No.23223085

>>23223081
human

>> No.23223097

>>23223060
You, my dear fagatroon are on 4chan posting underage virtual girls. I would be surprised if they could spell their own name. I pray for them.

>> No.23223104

My professor posts on 4chan.

>> No.23223108

>>23223060
Teach them, it's your job nerd

>> No.23223110

>>23223104
I had a comp sci professor who would shitpost on /g/ before lectures.

>> No.23223129

>>23223104
My mom posts on /pol/

>> No.23223134

>>23223129
I know, son. That’s where we met :3

>> No.23223137

>>23223060
is it true that they stopped teaching phonics? and instead they just teach kids to memorize words

>> No.23223143

>>23223134
D-dad??
I thought you were a libtard, what are you doing here?

>> No.23223150 [DELETED] 

>>23223085
But they're not white, are they? I teach public school as well, and I have never encountered a white kid who was illiterate, not even among the retarded. Meanwhile nigger kids struggle immensely even with basic reading and especially analysis. I guess you're one of the fugly child molesters who cover for this system, though :/

>> No.23223154

>>23223150
with teachers like these kids don’t need enemies

>> No.23223157

>>23223129
yer da sells avon

>> No.23223183

>>23223150
you're not looking hard enough. stupidity pervades all races

>> No.23223200

>>23223071
Not a bad ratio. It'll only get worse from here.

>> No.23223206

>>23223150
This is why public school teachers rightfully take a lot of flak

>> No.23223207

>>23223071
I could read two languages by then
wtf

>> No.23223208

>>23223183

And it afflicts certain races more profoundly than others. If you were an honest broker you'd acknowledge this, and since you aren't, you won't.

>>23223137

It depends where you are, they've actually made some progress on this one recently. Recently certain jurisdictions have come around to the fact that balanced literacy (trying various methods) just doesn't work, and phonics just fucking does, and are re-tooling teaching guidance/expectations accordingly. The key is for the student to realize that the concept or idea itself, the spoken word denoting same, and the written word denoting same are all "the same thing", more or less. Of course, all this is ultimately for naught when Quantavious is the student, but even he can pick up on things a bit faster with phonics as opposed to other approaches.

>> No.23223212

>>23223183
Sure, there are differences between individuals, and obviously, statistically speaking, there are probably a couple white kids who are illiterate. But literacy has been functionally 100% for white people for many, many years, and I have not personally ever encountered an illiterate white kid. Now, niggers, yeah, lots and lots of illiteracy there, to varying degrees. Even at the collegiate level negro illiteracy is /shockingly/ high. The thread isn't about intelligence, it's about literacy, and literacy happens to be nigh-universal among whites but far from it among niggers. You don't need to piss your pants over it and defend their racial honor or whatever, it won't make niggers any more literate.

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>>23223060
It's the petit nègres.

>> No.23223255 [DELETED] 

>>23223240
We spend more per capita on students than any other nation in history, mostly to support niggers, and they still can't even manage basic literacy (let alone high school graduation), I truly despise it when people say schools need more money. We spend like 5 times what Norwegians do to educate their kids, and the main reason is to feed and clothe and medically and emotionally and psychologically support fat, violent nigger children who disrupt classrooms and commit crimes.

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>>23223137
qrd on what's phonics for the non american?

>> No.23223299

>>23223150
Of course you just naturally assume your kind does well at something because the world is just and you're all naturally superior. Self-serving justifications are the mark of a little man and an uncurious mind. There is a reason why people revile you. Be a better person.

>> No.23223303

>>23223060
I believe you, but it would be cool to see some more figures on this. I can't seem to find any studies about if illiteracy rates have gotten worse since 2020, but to be fair I haven't looked very hard though.

>> No.23223310

>>23223060
Technology like smartphones is destroying people’s minds. But retards keep telling it’s le good

>> No.23223314

>>23223060
kek

>> No.23223317

>>23223255
Why do Americans love negroes so much? All that money wasted just so they end up speaking ebonics like retards.

>> No.23223325 [DELETED] 

>>23223299
>sheeeit dis be wypipo fault ageen
>yall gots ta learn why's we be hatin!!!
No thanks nigger, you have an average IQ so low that we had to change the standard for what was classified as mentally retarded to protect your feelings from the truth. You should stop feeling entitled to white people and their civilization, and contribute something to the world apart from crime and violence.

>>23223317
jews run this country, and have for generations, that's the long and short of it. It's coming to an end just like pissrael, soon, though.

>> No.23223339

>>23223060
I taught kindergartners. They're literally retarded. Basic addition is hard for themm

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>>23223060
i let my 8 year old nephew play Morrowind today and he had trouble reading most words. he wasn't even trying to sound out stuff he didn't know, he would just guess based on the beginning and end of the word.
for example, he saw the word "inventory" and read "invention story..." what the fuck? how does that even happen? can someone who knows about reading and shit actually explain that?
the amount of times i had to tell this kid "just read. just look at it and read it" was insane, gen alpha is completely fucking cooked, their brains are fried, he was literally too lazy to read words in a videogame.
when i was six years old i was playing Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Windwaker and the like, reading every single word of text, exploring rich fantasy worlds by myself with no outside help, and absorbing it all like a sponge. on the contrary, this fucker has to be spoonfed every other word or else his brain just shuts down.
what is wrong with these kids, man?

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>tfw you’re part of the last generation that can read Shakespeare

>> No.23223349

>>23223343
They should be put in camps.

>> No.23223351

>>23223343
He’s dyslexic

>> No.23223363

>>23223325
I don't "blame" anyone for anything but I'm also not so stupid as to act as if my people went through slavery, murder, oppression, etc. and still had to live with the same people who did that, then I would want at the very least a little bit of understanding. But it's your very lack of universal thinking and imagination that makes you so similar to the diminutive minds you claim blacks to be. It's always the people closest to the bottom of the rung that have to denigrate others for their meager position. If you were black you would be the horribly annoying ones that claims anything white people do is racist and that every standard is a racial conspiracy by the "white man". See, I'm very white and very smart and feel no compulsion other than pity for those lower than me which is why, in reality, you're probably a short bus riding Mexican that's just pissed off you'll never get white pussy.

>> No.23223368

>>23223343
I don’t know where you’re from but in my country Covid fucked up education for little kids who were in 1st and 2nd grade. The kids who were in those grades are just starting to regularize now. My sister is a teacher and told me that it’s hard but possible to make them read fluently. She was talking about her success stories the other day. I don’t know what methods she uses or whatever.

>> No.23223370

>>23223060
Middle class?

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>>23223363
You're an idiot, and your stance is pathetic.

>> No.23223378

>>23223343
He's sight-reading words instead of using phonics (inventory = invention + story) and just hasn't seen that word before. That seems like a pretty natural mistake for a kid and even shows his brain is trying to make predictions about unfamiliar words. Maybe you're retarded?

>> No.23223380

>>23223299
Uhm, nice try, Mossad-kun~~

>> No.23223381

>>23223363
The slaves are dead. The slavers are dead.
Get over it, you larping nig.

>> No.23223386

>>23223378
He’s 8. You couldn’t read by 8? Retard

>> No.23223393

>>23223150
They hated him because he told the truth.

>> No.23223396

>>23223368
thanks for sharing. he fits that description. he was placed in IEP. He's made great strides in his reading ability but is still noticeably deficit. I just worry about him.
>>23223378
thank you for explaining. If not understanding the difference between sight-reading and phonics makes me retarded, then i guess im retarded. so be it.
When i was his age I didn't do that, I just sounded out words, so the idea of sightreading and guessing words just doesn't make any sense to me.

>> No.23223397

>>23223129
How does she deal with the women hate?

>> No.23223398

>>23223372
I've probably posted that image more times than you've seen it. I know more and have read more about every facet of your ideology than you will ever care to hear. You have nothing to say to me.

>> No.23223400

>>23223386
seriously. by the time i was 7 i was reading like 3 Magic Tree House books a day. You could not stop me from reading anything i got my hands on. i would read for hours. the idea of being a child aged 6-8 who cannot read sufficiently frightens and depresses me.

>> No.23223403

>>23223343

I guess it's just the environment he grew up in. He probably doesn't need to read, so why would he learn to? Just make him read more and he will learn how to do it.

>> No.23223405

>>23223398
>I-I used to be pro-white!
Sure you did moshe, sure you did.

>> No.23223406

>>23223397
>implying Anon's mom is a woman

>> No.23223418

>>23223137
Teaching elementary school kids to understand the relation between letters and sounds. Obviously a bit harder in English than other languages, but it's easy to learn the outliers when you grow up with them.

>> No.23223426

>>23223343
He probably just never saw the word before or heard it. Last week I was at a cocktail party and I wanted more deviled eggs and cocktail wienies. I asked a group of people where the “whores devores” were at. They said “what?”. I repeated myself and received blank looks so I quickly walked away

>> No.23223428

>>23223137
wait, holy shit. i am the anon from >>23223343
and just saw this.
that actually explains everything. if he isn't learning phonics then thats why he has so much trouble when i tell him "sound it out."
holy shit educators are so goddamned retarded

>> No.23223434

>>23223380
I hate Israelis more than you ever will.

>>23223381
You break it, you buy it. Don't import a mass of people to enrich yourself, put their discrimination into law for centuries, and then walk around like you still have a moral high ground. Of course the easy thing to do is to say, "ahhh who cares, they deserve it anyway, they're just lesser anyway" because these are all self-serving statements which are the easiest kinds of falsehoods to believe.

>>23223405
An actual "pro-whiteness" based on improving the actual lives and social position of real white people is what led me to my politics.

>> No.23223445

Some of my friends teach early elementary school.
The last few years they've had non-retard students who aren't potty trained.
Their parents expect teachers to change the diapers of a 6 year old.

>> No.23223449

>>23223434
jews were the ones who created the slave plantation and triangle trade, the ones who benefited most from it, and the ones who resisted its abolition the longest and hardest.

But ultimately every slave who survived the predicament was rewarded heavily for it, compared to all other niggers and indeed the majority of people alive at the time. Blacks in the 1890s in the US had considerably more wealth and political and civil rights as well as access to nutrition and healthcare, than almost everyone else in the world. But because they weren't "equal" to whites, this becomes some kind of disadvantage for them. Millions of people fled thousands of years of tradition, severing ties to family and community that would never heal or be restored, just for the opportunity to get a job here.

If you supposedly know all my talking points because you are pro-white, then you surely also know that niggers have received trillions in subsidy over the years since the end of slavery, been given far, far more than white people have by the state, and still manage to fuck it all up, and then have the gall to blame it on us. You're a jew, that much is very obvious to everyone, but even you should be able to acknowledge that niggers have been more than paid back for the pittance that was "taken" from them. You're never going to say anything negative about niggers or anything positive about white people so why don't you drop the silly larp?

>> No.23223451

>>23223150
lol did the people replying to this just come from Reddit? They should read the salo post about teaching black kids. From personal experience (Chicago public school) I can attest that they're awful. I remember the gifted kids were like 90% white in a ~40% white school and so the program got shut down for raycism. Black kids constantly fought the teacher, threw chairs, got into fights in class. Schools are staffed mostly by libtard whites or blacks, and both will cover for the worst of the worst black kids. Hell even if the teachers didn't cover for them I don't even think it's legal to hold kids back or really punish them at this point.
>>23223183
Bad white students just get bad grades. Bad black students fight with the teacher. There's a difference.

>> No.23223457

>>23223343
>>23223428
>english words
>sound it out
very funny

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>>23223154
>>23223183
>>23223206
>>23223299
Meanwhile in reality special programs of advanced merit are being banned in "anti-racist" states because the memebers of the species Homo Pelli Nigra can't get in... because they're just too stupid.

>> No.23223460 [DELETED] 

>>23223451
Why is the state of US education so bad? How to fix it? Why not just punish the negroes?

>> No.23223467 [DELETED] 

>>23223449
>JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

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>>23223460
>Why is X aspect of American society so bad?

>> No.23223469

>>23223060
Stormfags really raped this board, eh?

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>23223467
Got a live hasbarat here lmao

>> No.23223476

>>23223434
> You break it, you buy it.
This is how Jews understand the world. Through commerce terminology and comparisons lol

>> No.23223482

>>23223469
Yeah. To be fair this is an off-topic thread, so no big deal.

>> No.23223494

>>23223451
>>23223459
>black kids are stupid so we need to take away opportunities for everyone
>oh no, why is everyone stupid now?

>> No.23223507

Sounds like you have your work cut out for you anon. You've gotta introduce these kids to Whitman and forever alter the course of their lives.

>> No.23223508
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It is over.

>> No.23223524

>>23223467
>controls your banking
>controls all forms of media (while raping any gentile who joins)
>controls all medical industries
>lobbies your politicians
>every single one owes their allegiance to a foreign country that doesn't have extradition
>said foreign country stole nuclear secrets to the soviets
>said foreign country has assassinated your leader before
>Every single politician has been paid in some way by AIPAC which is the only foreign influence that is the exception to the FASA guidelines of foreign lobbies.
>Have been behind every mass immigration event

Oh but them owning slave plantations is too far fetched.

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>>23223508
He was right.

>> No.23223583

>>23223060
Just kill em

>> No.23223592

>>23223060
how many of them are brown?

>> No.23223612

>>23223363
You can look at British blacks, or blacks who live in Ireland or Germany or any other European country. They all act the exact same as American blacks. Hell, like 1/4 of US blacks aren't even descended from slaves, and they act the exact same too. It's not muh slavery or jim crow

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>>23223266
Phonics = breaking words down into their phonemes, then trying to get kids to understand how these basic phonemes sound like said aloud, so when they are learning and reading new, potentially unfamiliar words, they can “sound it out”, say it aloud and perhaps even recognize it. And vice versa, write down words they’ve heard before and know the meaning of but may not immediately know how to spell by sounding it out and transcribing what it sounds like.

>> No.23223627

>>23223060
Probably a result of you watching too much tranime

>> No.23223656

>>23223154
>>23223183
>>23223299
>>23223206
It blows my mind that some people still won’t recognize that there are genetic differences in racial intelligence.

>> No.23223671

>>23223299
>people revile whites
*racism intensifies*

>> No.23223677

>>23223434
TND and TKD are the most prowhite and prohuman stances possible.

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>>23223656
To the left, evolution ended at the neck. North of that, only lies appeal to emotion.

>> No.23223690

>>23223348
Born 92. I am very glad to have grown up when I did, playing outside and reading books, while still getting to witness the technological innovations we’re seeing now. Early nineties were the sweet spot desu

>> No.23223693

>>23223208
Has more to do with poverty than race. People in poor conditions don't care about learning. Black people on average are poorer.
Anyways I have met some incredibly stupid white people in my life.
People are just stupid in general
My roommate is white and pretty frequently I say a basic word and he just doesn't understand what I am saying. Like I am speaking an entirely different language

>> No.23223695

>>23223686
clearly the IQ tests were racist.

>> No.23223696

>>23223129
Tell her to stop posting blacked

>> No.23223699

>>23223693
Holy shit. It's like you read nothing in this thread. You will just keep repeating the same moronic "muh socioeconomic factors" bullshit over and over again.

>> No.23223706

>>23223686
>Mental health
>East Asians: higher
Lawl

>> No.23223715

>>23223469
>calling whites who don’t hate themselves “stormfags”
Bro can I just exist and appreciate my own history? Thx

>> No.23223717

>>23223699
You just repeat memes you've seen off /pol/ I speak from actual life experience.
People are universally retarded. Retardation does not care about your skin color
And yeah I do think socio economic factors are a real and plausible explanation

>> No.23223720

>>23223717
>>23223699
Other than socio economic factors how do you explain, for example, how immigrants from africa are so intelligent and successful whereas African Americans are much less so?

>> No.23223728

>>23223715
This isn’t about history and shitting on another ethnic group goes beyond “hating yourself”.

>> No.23223736

>>23223592
This. Seriously, even the anti-racist trannies here need to answer this question in earnest. As a part-time substitute, I get a decent amount of contact with kids at school, and my siblings are all between 6th to 10th grade. To be honest, they probably don’t have the level of general comprehension (certainly not in reading) my generation had at their age, but they’re not THAT far behind. That being said, they’re all white. So who are these reports of illiteracy and borderline retardation about?

>> No.23223739

>>23223728
Is shitting on ethnic groups other than your own off-limits? I suppose brownoids should shut the fuck up about white people, then.

>> No.23223751

>>23223736
Easy. The substandard education black people used get is now being applied to white people. It's what happens when you get wealth disparity combined with grade inflation. The white kid will still get a "high school education" but it's functionally the equivalent of 1950s black children's perfunctory "full education".

>> No.23223752

>>23223739
Who’s shitting on white people ITT, though? Or are you just importing your frustrations from somewhere else?

>> No.23223757

>>23223677
No, because urging this makes people (understandably) hate and fear you more than they already might, and, honestly, it’s hard not to see them as justified. I say this as someone who sees and is fed up with antiwhite and anti-male sentiment myself (under the various guises it’s wont to pass under of social justice, diversity, equity, multiculturalism, feminism, etc.).

This is stupid and federal-agent talk, agent provocateur bullshit meant to discredit people with unconventional or conspiratorial views or who have issues with prevailing politically-correct narratives today. If you’re urging for the genocide of people, it’s no surprise people are going to hate you and even want to punch you in the mouth. Then your stupid bullshit is used to justify censorship of other views that aren’t as extreme but which get lumped in as “all that white supremacist alt-right talking points /pol/ bullshit anyway” by (admittedly sometimes just as dunb, smug, and bigoted, if not worse) Redditors and other NPCs.

YOU are the enemy against yourself, against other whites, against me and any other decently sane-thinking person, as much as or more than any entity like Soros, the Open Society Foundations, the Rothschilds, or Jesse Jackson is.

What the fuck does urging this accomplish? Besides push us towards civil war conditions or violent protests and riots that would just be called “domestic terrorism” (if done by a politically incorrect group) and used to crack down on us further? You can’t fathom how dumb, misguided, naive and misled you are. You reject one form of propaganda and conditioning only to replace it with another. And much of a cliche as it is, “divide & conquer” really is an age-old, tried and tested technique. The same people and groups you see making plots against you and your way of life and Western civilization in general are just as happy to depopulate the third world because of the imminent risk of overpopulation they see (out of a neo-Malthusian mindset), or to stand down on 10/7 in one of the most well-funded and capable surveillance/military states for its small size and throw “small Jews” under the bus, letting them die for the greater Zionist agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200

>> No.23223761

>>23223060
It seems we have reached a point where if you aren’t overtly racist you are a tranny. It is a crazy world out there or maybe just a crazy site. Many people need to take a deep breath and chill out. Decades from now this era of cultural warfare will be seen as an embarrassment in human history. Both sides are clowns

>> No.23223777

>>23223757
anon still thinks there's a way out of this that doesn't end in war and violence.
come back in a few months to a year when you've lost that optimism and naivety. the people you're speaking to once felt the same as you, they just have less delusions now.

>> No.23223799

>>23223757
Normalizing extreme views is the only hope we have. Half measures will not save us from the coming darkness. Look at the history of conservatism over the last 200 years. Nothing but loss after loss. Fuck that. The world is way better off without blacks and Jews. Everyone knows it.

>> No.23223807

>>23223757
This. Glad someone sees it

>> No.23223819

>>23223060
The far right on /lit/ is funny. It feels like a bunch of anons hyping each other up to fire the opening shots of the race war because they aren’t going to get their hands dirty themselves. Yet urging anons on will lead to accusations of feds. Every leader that comes forth from the far right is immediately called a Jew or fed because they are paranoid. It’s comical to watch despite the damage they’ve laid on a literature forum

>> No.23223822

>>23223761
No you have to wholeheartedly believe in 1 of the 2 football teams, especially if you live in the land of the free

>> No.23223833

I’ve never lived among blacks. It can’t be that bad, right?

>> No.23223834

>>23223822
>if you’re not fighting for the cause you’re against it

Both sides look like utter fools and it’s sad that some believe the above. It almost feels like extremists are lonely fucked up people, regardless of side, and just looking for something to rally around because they have nothing else. Just vague, impossible ideals which lead to bitterness and hatred. So many people need to take a break from the internet. You find this stuff, it doesn’t find you. It’s a beautiful world out there if you choose to see it as such and nothing will change it, not a straight white man in power, or a black person in your neighborhood or a girl wearing booty shorts

>> No.23223867

>>23223720
Because there is a selection bias, you retarded 2 faced fuck. A nigger that gets out of Africa and comes to America probably has a reason (for example landed a job) to move which heavily selects for some kind of intelligence. While niggers are en masse gorilla iq freakazoids, it does not mean that once in a while they will not produce a functional human. However, it means that for the same population, for each functional nigger that passes for an actual human and not quite literally a zoo animal, you get a thousand whites or Asians. Do you think the nigger who has no concept of numbers was the one to get out of his shithole country?

>> No.23223872

>>23223867
I'm aware of the selection bias, those from a wealthier background can immigrate--in other words "socio economic factors". Glad to see you concede that socio economic factors can im fact be more significant
If they were inherently genetically inclined to be lower iq, then that selection bias shouldn't matter or be as significant as it is

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I have never met a black person in my life. What are they like normally?

>> No.23223888

I ran into a professor friend of mine recently and he told me that teaching since COVID has basically shattered his love of the subject because the students are simply so bad that you can't even get them thinking anymore. They can't do anything.

>> No.23223893

>>23223888
Covid ruined a generation of people, basically.

>> No.23223897

>>23223060
Define "functionally illiterate".
There's no way anyone gets to grade 11 without knowing how to read.

>> No.23223898

>>23223060
Rookie numbers. I expect you to bring that up to at least 7/8 of your students.

>> No.23223900

>>23223872
Yea, because academic excellence or general competence (iq) is not a predictor of wealth, right?. Or that academic excellence in general, even when funds are absent, lands them a position in a good company. In my medschool I have a classmate from Bangladesh of all places who is prob smarter than me. He is a close friend of mine and I know how fucking hard his life was back there. He literally is around ~165cm and he thinks it’s from lack of calories in early childhood. He still would be a number inside your exceptional niggers list. Sure n=1, but still illustrates my point.

>> No.23223925

>>23223459
I’m confused. Picrel doesnt make sense with what you said.
> Inaccurate IQ tests
> Children disproportionately assigned to classes for the mentally retarded over the course of almost an entire new generation of kids
>Meanwhile…. *SNORT*

>> No.23223929

>>23223876
Intelligent, hardworking, dutiful, kind, respectful, generous

>> No.23223931

>>23223900
Don't get what your point is nothing in your post contradicts anything I said

>> No.23223947

>>23223931
I will dumb it down for you even more, retard.

High Iq=wealth= afford capability go fly away to better country
High iq= Academic excellence= Study good uni in capital= top of class = get picked as talent

Low iq= no wealth= no fly away and no finish school

Your socioeconomic argument is proxy for iq. This applies both in the niggers inside the states and your exceptional niggers list.

>> No.23223958

>>23223929
>>23223876
One of the kindest persons I met, really laborious. I actually prefer my doctos, waiters anyone who I interact with for a service a black person, whites are always sour and grumpy.

>> No.23223963

>>23223060
We are ruled by conservatives, science and arts are no longer respected, there are less classes foe.the sake of.learning and more technical job courses.

>> No.23223979

>>23223947
I understand the selection bias but the selection bias works against your argument
The selection bias suggests that black people who have access to more resources, come from better environments, perform better on academic and IQ tests

>> No.23223980

>>23223958
My neighbors are Nigerian. Very nice people.

>> No.23223991

>>23223979
I suggest the exact opposite. That higher iq brings more wealth and resources, as suggested by my example (and general concept) of the higher iq individual that gets out of his shithole country through his academic excellence despite of his lot in life.

>> No.23224015

>>23223958
unironic twitter-brain swarthoid who probably thinks they're incapable of racism because they're brown

>> No.23224059

>>23223060
You probably just teach in an area that's filled with retards (just like you). I graduated from a middle class/ White high school a few years ago. Almost everyone was functionally literate. There would be one here or there and would usually be a non.

>> No.23224071

>>23223963
As if. I would kill for a technical job course or apprenticeship. My education was all useless arts and science.

>> No.23224075

>>23223991
Only African family I know appear to come from money, but ik thats anecdotal.
Makes more sense to me that African immigrants on avg come from a background that allows them to pursue success
But if it were the case they're just inherently high iq, that's still a high amount of high iq individuals as there's like 5 million african immigrants in the U.S
They're all just the exception to the rule, eh?

>> No.23224104

>>23224075
Yes they are. 5 million is nothing compared to their whole population. Also I don’t know what is considered African in your source. All Africa is not freakazoids.

>> No.23224138

>>23224104
Discussions about iq invariably just reduce down to nature v.s nurture, or chicken v.s egg questions without definitive proof
You could say Africans are poor cause of low iq. Or they could have lower iq because they are poor/undeveloped
Another factor I would imagine is who has the resources to take an IQ test.
If you don't receive much of any education, you're not gonna do well on an IQ test.
Regardless I don't believe the /pol/ memes that black people are all these total slobbering retards. Cause I know from experience that's not true

>> No.23224186

>>23223060
I’m at least glad to see that everyone is aware that It’s Over. The generation of kids raised on TikTok are going to the the Last Men. Absolutely good for nothing. No intelligence, no concentration, no ambition, no culture, fucking nothing except thousand of videos of Fortnite Peter Griffin trickshots and clay balls squishing being transmitted into their brains all day. Their zoomer older brothers who are hooked on tranny porn are not much better but there’s at least a degree of sentience remaining. As for the newest youth, they will age into an elderly world and give nothing to it.

>> No.23224199

you people are over reacting or forgetting how fucking stupid your classmates were in school, it has always been like this

>> No.23224205

>>23223622
do they not teach this anymore?

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>>23224138
There is no debate in nature vs nurture friend. If it’s not all nature, it’s certainly most. Look on the twin studies if you want. Look at iq heritability research. I will concede that environment can influence gene expression but still that’s on a very limited amount (twin studies again).
Also your nurture point is off also based on SAT scores and socioeconomic class. Controlling for socioeconomic class, whites outperform blacks by a huge margin (picrel).
These are few examples really.
The bottom line is that you can not civilise the average nigger.

>> No.23224286

>>23223686
>sex characteristics: larger, intermediate, smaller
besides being perverse to even mention, how does he come to this conclusion? doctor-measured studies from hospitals report 5-6 inches average at hospitals on every continent

>> No.23224358

>>23223110
Let me guess, he posts "install Arch" before every lecture.

>> No.23224367

>>23223150
True

>> No.23224393

>>23223150
>never encountered a white kid who was illiterate
"never" lmao
this is an obvious lie but the 80 IQers here (the majority) love it.

>> No.23224436

>>23223451
> Bad black students fight with the teacher.
Frankly I thought this was some kind of freak americanism but then we started getting enriched ourselves and now there’s regular stories about teachers getting beaten by children. It’s fucking insanity. I thought we had it bad because they were hesitant to send a disruptive kid to tard school where he belonged.

>> No.23224448

>>23224436
It’s a regular occurrence in American public schools for black students to fight every day and sometimes assault teachers. I’ve witnessed the latter a few times. Our colleges carry the education sector of this country. The rest is a joke.

>> No.23224460

>>23224256
Is how good someone does on a standardized test indicative of innate intelligence?
If you gave the SAT to a group that lives a nomadic lifestyle they would probably do poorly on a SAT

>> No.23224474

>>23224460
Posting scores also doesn't prove the nature side correct
It's not surprising that slaves wouldn't have passed on an appreciation for education to their descendents
The question is as to the cause of the deficit/difference, not as to the existence of the difference itself

>> No.23224486 [DELETED] 

>>23223299
lmao nigger

>> No.23224507

>>23224460
The SAT is administered to college applicants. What these scores indicate is that college applicants that are niggers score like shit irrespective of socioeconomic factors compared to whites. Don’t strawman me like a faggot. If nomad kid went to school and then applied for college it would score whatever it would score, that is, probably, better than a nigger.

>> No.23224521

>>23224507
The question is as to the cause of the difference. Pointing to the difference alone doesn't prove what causes it
As I previously gave as an example, if you administered the SAT to an isolated tribe in the Amazon forest, they would likely not perform well
Does that mean an Amazonian tribe is innately less intelligent than us? Probably not

>> No.23224527

>>23224521
>>23224507
And also no lol a kid that lived in a nomadic tribe without contact with the modern world would certainly not perform better on the SAT than a nigger
You have no clue what you're talking about

>> No.23224528

>>23224474
What appreciation of fucking education are you talking about? So it’s their culture that keeps niggers being niggers? Isn’t culture influenced by their gorilla iqs? Maybe people that are retarded and can’t excel in education wouldnt appreciate its value.
Man I don’t know what to tell you to make you realise that you are most certainly wrong. What if different races had genetics differences? Is it that far fetched that it would be a possibility? I will stop it here so I go sleep. Best of luck.

>> No.23224595

>>23223469
You mean culturally enriched

>> No.23224600

>>23223833
It is, in fact, that bad.

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>literacy thread
>immediately derailed by race-obsessed /pol/ tards
American website indeed

>> No.23224769

>>23223622
when i was in 3rd grade there were these three kids in the library talking about the new book "harry potter and the order of the phonics".

>> No.23224801

>>23223508
On a long enough timeline all Onion news reports become real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssjokgx0pUQ

>> No.23224867

>>23223508
This is what you get when you waste exorbitant amounts of time on subjects that should be optional and allow internet/phone access in schools. School should be 3 hours for 4 days a week and only teach mathematics, PE, languages, and basic biology with a focus on health, sex ed/general etiquette. Kill the economy where school is treated as a wagecuck-generating daycare.

>> No.23225168

IQ tests had culture bias

>> No.23225179

Idiots with a heart of gold are infinitely more worthy and are fundamentally superior to the selfish, manioulative intellectuals.

>> No.23225204

>>23224521
Member of a tribe that hasn’t invented a wheel and has no written language….why would you think they aren’t less intelligent?

>> No.23225253

/pol/ bullshit aside, what the FUCK is going on in the education system in the US
>About 130 million adults in the U.S. have low literacy skills according to a Gallup analysis of data from the U.S. Department of Education. This means more than half of Americans between the ages of 16 and 74 (54%) read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level.
https://www.apmresearchlab.org/10x-adult-literacy
This is genuinely scary, these are our future leaders.

>> No.23225259

>>23223104
There used to be more than a handful of professors and PhDs here not that many years ago. Most of them left over the last few years as the quality of the board plummeted .

>> No.23225265

>>23223508
Ironic that the teachers are raising the alarm bells over teachers not doing their jobs. Several generations of teachers being made of women going through undergraduate education programs that are entirely about feelings and civic indoctrination and this is the result. These teachers are usually idiots themselves, and have no subject matter expertise in the topics they teach.

>> No.23225288

>>23225253
>future
>this very year you decide which senile old man will lead the country
Lmfao

>> No.23225300

it's not like there's anything worth reading anyway. the classics are all slop and there's only enough genre fiction and nonfiction to keep you busy for a handful of years, after which you're left a bitter broken wreck shuffling through the ashes of civilization with a pointed stick, scraping through the muck for just one more undiscovered gem.

>> No.23225319

>>23223720
>how immigrants from africa are so intelligent
the only intelligent ones are the African 1%. But there are plenty of retarded black migrants

>> No.23225321

>>23223656
Even statistically social and economic class are much bigger factors when it comes to intelligence.
>>23223686
There are differences between races but dumbfucks like you latch onto it and blow it out of proportion because you're insecure, lack accomplishments and still participate in primitive tribal activities. Tell me when you can find a study that can isolate race from things like upbringing or social class or economics. Obviously Nigeria and blacks from the ghetto are gonna bog down the IQ scores of all black people including the well educated suburban ones.

>> No.23225327

>>23225253
Women have replaced men as the "default" citizen, and women are incompetent air-heads who will promote any idiotic religion of "feeling good" the elites choose. Non-whites have replaced whites as the prestige class, despite the system still using residual white men as its only productive class. Young people have been negrified and feminized so that even the white ones will not be able to replace the residual white men who still just barely make sure bridges don't fall down and planes don't crash into each other on the runway. The whole society is one giant orgyporgy for, on the one hand, dumb broads who have been partying and having "good feelings" nonstop with no responsibilities since the '60s, even though the chickens are increasingly coming home to roost in the form of mental illness, exponentially rising demand for "therapy" (aka surrogate family, friendship, religion), which is also administered by miserable cat ladies; and on the other hand, for dumb minorities, 1/3 of whom are in prison at any one time, who are a massive net economic drag on every country they inhabit, who commit 95% of all crimes, use 95% of all social services, and produce 95% of squalor and urban blight.

When a Residual White Man says "perhaps broken windows theory?" or "perhaps stop and frisk?," both things that worked, the air-headed neurotic pill-popping women descend from the hills shrieking and hurling rocks at him, because he made the 95%-crime committing non-white net economic drain people sad. Being sad is bad!

Young people are negrified and feminized so they have no resistance to counter-initiation. Planes used to not crash into each other on the runway because 80% of society was basically competent. Then, into the 90s and early 2000s, they didn't crash into each other because 20-40% of society was basically competent, but aging and badly overworked. Within 10-15 years we will transition to a society composed entirely of women, blacks, and feminized and negrified honorary black women (zoomers and gen alphas). We're about to become a full-blown cargo cult. The country will be broken up into economic zones and administered like a dysfunctional Brazilian hellhole by technocrat vampires who live in distant financial capitals, basically neo-feudalism.

There is no "education system," there are no "teachers." In 1900 if you gave a kid a book and said "read this," that was education. He'd become basically literate. Now you need trillion-dollar funnymoney initiatives to trick a white zoomer into even speaking semi-properly, and it's like trying to put spilled wine back in a bottle with just your fingers. And for every one of those, there are 10 non-white zoomers who spawning like uruk-hai and raping and cannibalizing eachother on the playground.

Either a curated dystopian Brazil comes next, or some reactionary movement instates Rhodesia-tier apartheid, to quarantine the remaining whites for a generation as the basis for a new governing class.

>> No.23225333

>>23225327

The quarantine has been in place all along, you're just on the wrong side of the fence.

>> No.23225336

Itt low IQ white people look at the IQ scores for the average of the white race and say "hey that's me! I'm an average white person!"

>> No.23225340

There are a lot of factors and tablet/phone usage and shit education are high on the list, but I'd argue home environment is more important. My parents read to me nightly and bought me tons of books. It was YA slop like Harry Potter but still, I was hearing and seeing words pronounced every night during my prime years of neuroplasticity and I was reading/writing before I ever set foot in a school. Tablets and phones are here to stay but they don't have to be a bad thing. It's up to the parents.

>> No.23225342

>>23225333
The elites are dysgenic and their vampire technocracy is being used by darker, ahrimanic forces. They stupidly think they'll keep having Eyes Wide Shut parties for eternity.

>> No.23225343

This thread is fucking stupid. For the vast majority of time 99.9% of people were full blown illiterate. No, the west has not fallen because zoomers can't read shakespeare, have you all forgotten your school years already? Your class was a bunch of brainiacs scoring straight A's? Nothing has changed. I'm qualified to be a teacher, you know why I don't do it? Because I remember the retarded schoolmates from back in the day, no way i'm wasting my time with 27 retards while 2 or 3 above average students actually pay attention and learn something

>> No.23225349

>>23225343
White civilization created almost universal literacy and raised standards of living and human dignity to unprecedented levels within a few centuries

>> No.23225357

>>23225204
The concept of intelligence itself is rather foolish, but it is unlikely that you will comprehend this during your lifetime

>> No.23225365

>>23225342
"Better fifty years of Europe than a cycle of Cathay"

>> No.23225369

>>23223060
I blame those retarded "education experts" who pushed teachers into doing holistic reading.
>be a teacher
>teach kids how to read by teaching them phonics: s makes an "sss" sound, b makes a "buh" sound, etc. Then put those sounds together to make a word.
>some retard who wants to make a name for himself says that's all wrong and he's got a much better way to teach English that doesn't involve phonics: holistic reading!
>with holistic reading, you remember the shapes and lengths of entire words, and just memorize how to pronounce the whole thing, and then you memorize common collocations to figure out what word comes next
>so you read by guessing the word
>holistic reading has the added benefit that when a student comes across an entirely new word they've never seen before, like say "parablepsis" they have no way of sounding out the word.
>if this concept of holistic reading raised a red flag and sounds totally wrong to you, congratulations! You are smarter than the entire education system.
>for years and years education administrators promoted holistic reading, despite being entirely counter-intuitive, because "muh experts!" and "muh studies!"
>recently it's come out that holistic reading is total horseshit and the guy who invented it faked all his research
>and now kids can't read because they are just guessing what words they're reading

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>>23225253
Probably tik-tok. People get good at what they do. Instead of reading anything, it's tik-tok or whatever mindless application.

The /pol/tards are consistently wrong here, it has little or nothing to do with race. It's not microplastics either.
What changed in society in the last ten or fifteen years that severely impacted thinking across all races and economic factors? smartphones Instead of relying on their own mind, people outsource it to the pocket supercomputer "because thinking is hard"

>> No.23225378

>>23225349
Ok, now enough of genre fiction and let's start discussing reality again

>> No.23225381

>>23225369
whoops, apparently it's not "holistic reading" it's called "whole language approach." Invented by Kenneth Goodman.

>> No.23225382

>>23225369
>recently it's come out that holistic reading is total horseshit and the guy who invented it faked all his research
it's shit as an education method but scanning and recognizing words in their entirety is the only way to read at any great speed

>> No.23225388

>>23225343
>For the vast majority of time 99.9% of people were full blown illiterate.
And there was a plethora of work to be done that didn't require literacy. That's not true anymore. Even for "unskilled" labor like trades you have to read and communicate at a high school level.

>> No.23225396

>>23225388
>you have to read and communicate at a high school level.

Which the vast majority of people do, if they can post on social media, they can do it.

>> No.23225402

>>23225382
It’s shallow reading

>> No.23225410

>>23225396
Are you reading this thread? see >>23223508
>sound out words
>spell simple words
>round
>understand negative
>understand percentages
>one step variable equations
These are high school students. What work can they do? Push carts, janitorial, garbageman? Even food service is off the table if you can't do this basic shit

>> No.23225419

>>23225410
Anecdotal evidence. He merely says "i've seen students", ok so, how many? For all I know it could've been 10 students, in a what period of time? A semester? 2 years? Also he teaches for how many classes? If he is teaching for 5 classes of 30 students and he has seen "some students" that can't do what he mentioned, that is expected
The shitty reddit post proves nothing.

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>>23223508
lmao they’re fucking retards

>> No.23225438

>>23223451
>the salo post about teaching black kids
Link?

>> No.23225446

>>23225419
Your entire post here >>23225343 is filled with anecdotes. You're clearly just shifting the goalposts when it suits you. It's obvious literacy is a major social problem to anyone paying attention, and we don't need a peer reviewed journal papers to see that.

>> No.23225451

>>23225446
>we don't need a peer reviewed journal papers to see that.
Yes we do, that how we prove trends you know

>> No.23225459

>>23223460
We’d rather defund education to punish blacks, making all of our children more retarded, than juice the early childhood education/care system for everybody because, again, the blacks might abuse it or something.

The specter of the Welfare Kween haunts the american mind. Anything that benefits me might be taken advantage of by a black lady scamming a couple hundred bucks off a benefits card so we’ll never get the republican great society even again.

>> No.23225462

>>23225327
Regrettably, this is the best post I've seen here in 5 years. Holy fucking kek

>> No.23225465

>>23225336
lmao

>> No.23225469

>>23225327
>Either a curated dystopian Brazil comes next, or some reactionary movement instates Rhodesia-tier apartheid, to quarantine the remaining whites for a generation as the basis for a new governing class.
Probably both? Things are starting to feel very Holy Roman Empire. There is a country on paper, but more and more anything goes and it's what you can get away with as long as you do not piss off the wrong random person.

>> No.23225474

>>23223183
>>23223299
group difference exists. IQ is mostly inborn. IQ differences between whites and black exist. Blacks are on average lower avg. IQ than whites. You also can state these facts without being racist. I'm myself racist though.

>> No.23225475

>>23225469
lol

>> No.23225525

To the anons arguing it’s the fault of blacks just being inherently dumb or whatever.

What’s the solution then? Sounds like a bunch of whining to me. You guys think they need more extensive education to achieve the same as their white counter parts? I guess we oughta juice up early childhood care and education for black families. Early reading is like, one of the most important indicators of later literacy.

>> No.23225533

>>23225525
Segregation is the only thing that works. Put the blacks back on the footing they had in the early 20th century, when they were doing autonomy shit. Give them states or areas where they already have a majority anyway, or subsidize them to set up somewhere with lots of promise, and agree to call this reparations. You'd spend 10% the amount of money currently spent on managing dysgenic and spiritually destroyed blacks with whites in cities today, just by subsidizing them to farm and build their own communities. Encourage the blacks to take care of their own misbehaving groups. Whites are faggoty pussies, but blacks would ruthlessly execute their own miscreants if they could actually see them directly and visualize how much damage they were doing to the collective black community with their shenanigans.

Mixing will never work. We can be friends and even live in close proximity to eachother but we need our own communities.

>> No.23225538

>>23223150
lotta troons seething at these objective facts

>> No.23225543

>>23223363
>s if my people went through slavery, murder, oppression, etc.
every single group of people on planet earth have gone through this, it's just one race that can't seem to get the fuck over it

>> No.23225546

>>23225543
This, my grandpa was a bonafide white nigger and here I am a successful classy individual who bakes bread

>> No.23225550

>>23225253
>what's 2+2?
>and don't give me any of that "4" nonsense, I want a proper answer
/pol/ is always right

>> No.23225552

>>23223207
It would be unusual if you couldn't.

>> No.23225555

>>23225378
>that never happened
>we wuz kings
shut the fuck up, nigger

>> No.23225556

>>23225525
>early childhood care and education for black families
Futile. I agree that early reading is critical and education for black families would help but the cultural well is poisoned. The majority of blacks are condemned to being lower class. Some will make it out and do well, some will be intelligent enough to graduate and get some useless degree that will further the rot, and the rest will keep doing the same thing that they've always done, and pass it on to their children. I don't blame them by the way, it's very sad

>> No.23225574

>>23225533
Segregation would take far too much infrastructural planning and resources. We’ve been soft segregating for a long ass time anyways and it doesn’t work.

I genuinely think you’d affect a similar end by cutting the throats of corporate landlords and making home ownership far more accessible to both blacks and whites. Rather than transient communities of renters, people would literally own a stake in their community. Harlem is actually a good example of this. Panther shit and a community effort to own their black neighborhood led to lower crime. Now it has one of the lowest home ownership rates in the city and a subsequent high crime rate.

I think if given the ability to choose somewhere to put roots down, people will also naturally segregate themselves. Again, look at any city with Black, asian, hispanic neighborhoods.

I think it’s a more achievable end and benefits whites as well. Both whites and blacks are being fucked by owning nothing. Us and our black bros should be home owners with financial and spiritual stake in our communities.

>> No.23225581

>>23225556
This is why equality of outcome is being pushed.

I work for a very large company that set up an internal ‘I.T academy’. They take people from disadvantaged groups and train them for better careers in I.T mostly as scrum masters, project managers, or dev ops where they can then ascend into management.

You realize this is the future. Incompetents promoted because of how they look leading the few people who keep the whole thing from falling apart.

There will be fewer and fewer good jobs and a lot of those will be given away to give the impression of diversity.

>> No.23225582

>>23225556
>>23225574
Sending the niggers back to Africa is the only solution that doesn't require genocide. Niggers have proven themselves both incompatible with and unworthy of white society. I'm sorry these facts hurt your feelings, but that's just the way it is.

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>>23223183
>>23223299
>>23223363
sad that the education system still fails white people too, especially when they become antiracist

>> No.23225597

>>23225321
see
>>23225592

>> No.23225598

>>23225581
Combine that with this
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

Also remember, this isn't new. This is simply what African countries look and function like, up close. The whole farcical nature of it, the weird feeling like society is made up of endless stacks of interwoven nonsense and fake titles and fake jobs and people getting positions purely out of influence or because the system is headless. That is simply the third world. That is what it is like to be part of a dead country with no future. And now it's the first world too.

>> No.23225599

>>23223104
Is that surprising? The modern teachers' generation grew up with social media and video games.

>> No.23225628

>>23225598
100 percent agree.

Its automation which reduces the human worker to a mere cog. And then the overlay of diversity and non merit hiring just means those now in charge likely have no idea what they’re doing.

I think the fast food restaurant is the perfect example. 40 years ago food was actually cooked, orders were taken, money changed hands. All of this has been removed. And so workers are just required for manual connection to automatic workflows. Even Papa John’s makes their crust in a factory to be more efficient. When something goes wrong the cog or human worker doesn’t have any ability to fix the problem. Moreover the skill of cooking or fixing things is no longer a requirement which then makes it easier to give the higher paying job of manager or district manager to anyone who looks the part.

What a fucking dystopia this is turning into.

>> No.23225630

Jumping in here to ask a basic ass question: what are some academic journals that discuss the state of education, literacy, and things like that? Peer reviewed journals that focus on that. I'm open to generalist sociology or psychology journals, but I'd have to wait for a random publication in those to be about this topic. Failing all that, what is current book on the topic?

>> No.23225692

>>23223693
It's more that the most formative years of intelligence are hampered due to improper nutrition, lack of facilitating intellectual resources (tutoring, early education, etc) and familial support

>> No.23225699

>>23223207
that's not impressive

>> No.23225708

Why is being literate a good thing? I've always excelled at it but its just been a negative in my life. Who cares? Its a skill to help you integrate better and function better in an evil world.

>> No.23225732

>>23225708
This comment right here is something that you would never see mentioned or even thought 75+ years ago. We've fractured so much as a society that NOTHING can be assumed or taken from granted. Every assumption no matter how basic or self-evident can and must be questioned.

>> No.23225735

desu as a child I could read if you forced me to sit down, recite passages, and tell you about them (there were kids put in a 'slow reader' tutoring group but I was not one of them) but i was still functionally illiterate until i was like 9.
i just didn't see a purpose in reading things when i could get along fine by guessing based on context and looking at pictures. I didn't have the attention span to read for pleasure outside of mandatory school assignments until I was around 16 years old.

>> No.23225738

>>23225708
Consider thinking about what you type retard.
>Why is 'a skill to help you integrate better and function better in an evil world' a good thing
>>23225732
He's just a retard.

>> No.23225743

tbf reading isn't natural

>> No.23225753

>>23225735
To add, part of it is that in elementary school I was never forced to do anything on my own. I could skip my homework and the teacher would walk me through it and give me a passing grade anyways. If I was stuck on some part in a video game or didn't understand something I was watching or reading on the internet, I could switch to something more immediately gratifying. There was no reason for me to ever apply myself and think critically about what was in front of me. It's probably worse for the younger kids now.

>> No.23225776

>>23225708
>Its a skill to help you integrate better and function better in an evil world.
The alternative is a rising rate of poor unemployed people, equal outcome government programs, and infrastructure and bureaucratic rot. In that order.

>> No.23225792

>>23225708
>Why is being literate a good thing?
It helps you read propaganda. Not very necessary now that all propaganda is in video form.

>> No.23225801

>>23225377
>historic immigration from groups proven to have lower IQ
>average IQ declines as a result
wow amazing we should definitely research and study this and then when we don't like the findings we will lie

>> No.23225805

>>23225459
We do not need more money spent on kids. We already spend more money per capita than every other country in the world. $16,340/head, at the national level, in the northeast it's more commonly $25k/head. The UK, in its worst, neediest schools, spends about $11k/head. The only countries in the world that spend close to as much as we do are Norway, who at the upper extreme spend $16,800/head, and Luxembourg, which spends $25,600/head. Every single other country in the entire world spends less money per student than we do, and by considerable margins - the OECD average is $10,400. Niggers still manage to bankrupt our education system despite this, and their academic performance has only dropped over time. The problem is not with school funding, it's with niggers.

>> No.23225820

>>23223060
I knew four languages by then (English, Mandarin, Latin and Spanish), what the fuck. They should at least know one of those languages, give them something like Dumas or any other similar author (even Bulwer-Lytton, since getting them to read is enough). If they cannot do it, fail them. If the parents complain, say that they are illiterate. That said, clear your coursework with admin first, that way, you cannot be fired for your actions.

If I could read The Count of Monte Cristo by age 14, they should be able to do it at age 18, at the very least.

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>>23223451
>anything i dont like is reddit

>> No.23225831

>>23223060
STEM zealotry and mass consumption of short form posts and texts are the prime cause of all this. I've taught all kinds of kids and many of them are functionally illiterate. A lot of them are white ipad babies. Even the ones that are literate can't parse a sentence properly. Its not like the education system even prizes these skills anymore. They just want you to do math and code in POOP then go do start up. Silicum valley propagandists now run our education system.

>> No.23225845

>>23225801
You're thinking small-mindedly.
IQ isn't dropping only in advanced nations taking immigrants from less advanced nations. IQ is dropping in these less advanced nations independently as well.
>white family in white nation has white kids
>these white kids are less intelligent
>this is immigrants fault???
>brown family in brown nation has brown kids
>these brown kids are less intelligent
>this is immigrants fault???
The mass importation of illegal Guatemalans isn't helping but the cause is more universal than race

>> No.23225856

>>23225845
No it's mostly race. I don't care why the brown tide is stupid, I just know that it is. Send them back.

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My high school barely had us read any books. I'm 21 now, was in high school from 2017-21.

I think I only ever really read
The Sun Also Rises
Great Expectations

Only recently I took up reading as a hobby so I'm going back and reading all those middle school/high school level classics by myself

I definitely feel smarter lately

>> No.23225868

I haven't read the full thread, so maybe it has been mentioned, but something I see in addition to the poor reading skills is the poor ANALYTICAL skills students have. I teach at a big R1 university and for essay assignments, both research papers and smaller reading responses, I include a requirement that they must critique or otherwise object to the authors they are discussing (that way it's not just a big summary for the full paper). Super simple essay structure: intro -> brief summary of author's position -> implications of the position -> criticism/objection to author's position -> overall evaluation. What I notice from all students is that they cannot wrap their heads around bringing up an objection or criticizing what they read. As soon as they read something, they just believe it is unassailably true. I've had dozens of conversations in office hours with students asking what I mean when I ask them to come up with an objection to something they read. "Do you agree with the author? Does something seem wrong about what they said? Explain what seems wrong to you." Blank stares. At least this is limited to the really low level intro courses; things are better for the classes that have prerequisites.

>> No.23225899

The public educational system has fallen.
Billions must read.

>> No.23225953

>>23224205
It’s probably called something different outside the states

>> No.23226012

>>23225868
> What I notice from all students is that they cannot wrap their heads around bringing up an objection or criticizing what they read. As soon as they read something, they just believe it is unassailably true
A lot of undergrads come into college lacking in analytical skills. They don't know how to read a book, the basics of logic, or how to formulate an argument. Colleges don't bother teaching these skills either. One thing I've seen are students regurgitating bits and pieces of academic writing almost like a chatbot. i.e. they'll tell you something is essentialist, but when you ask them what essentialism means or why it's bad they can't really tell you or they'll churn out phrases like "hegemony" or "lived experience" but don't really know where they come from or what they mean. Some of the younger Gen Z kids really don't like their preconceived opinions being challenged and will get hostile and there's this sense that debate is a bad thing. I had a really nasty experience in class when I was pointing to some of the problems I have with Judith Butler which led to a student accusing me of being a transphobe and derailing everything. When asked how she couldn't really explain and just defaulted to her emotions and how she felt uncomfortable. It wasn't even a harsh criticism and had nothing to do with her work on gender.

Social media has really transformed the way people engage with written content. Its more fleeting, less analytical, and more like consumption and people hitch themselves to certain trends or ideas in a way that's very performative and disingenious. People don't sit and think anymore. Its all about dogmatic alignment and consuming infotainment that reinfroces your existing worldview.

>I haven't read the full thread
You don't want to. Its mostly bots shilling race theories.

>> No.23226047

>>23223085
Unlikely

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>>23225856
>No it's mostly race. I don't care why the brown tide is stupid, I just know that it is. Send them back.

>> No.23226180

>>23225845
No, it's just that browns are dropping the average IQ in two ways:
1. They're retarded, so their IQ lowers the average.
2. They're retarded, and forced into schools with whites, which requires dumbing down all material to their level, which means white students receive a worse education, lowering their IQ.

>> No.23226183

>>23225845
>white family in white nation has white kids
>these white kids are less intelligent
>this is immigrants fault???
yes. more immigrants come. the immigrants are less intelligent. the immigrants have trouble keeping up with the white kids, so they lower the bar, and make it easier, but less rigorous. fast forward a few years, the entire bunch is now less intelligent. i'm not sure why this is hard to comprehend. its been going on for the past 20+ years in the USA.
>brown family in brown nation has brown kids
>these brown kids are less intelligent
>this is immigrants fault???
no. white people are not immigrating en masse to brown nations, so this argument is defunct. you think you're inverting the basic principle to expose a flaw in the argument but really you're just misunderstanding the argument to begin with

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>>23226180
>They're retarded, and forced into schools with whites, which requires dumbing down all material to their level, which means white students receive a worse education, lowering their IQ.
ah, i see this anon beat me to the punch, and worded it better than i did

>> No.23226199

>>23225732
>>23225738
Nah literacy is over rated. It has stopped people from being able to think for themselves. I wish I was illiterate.
The equation of literacy with education is why we have this bare bones rotten system to begin with.
You deserve this world.

>> No.23226205

>>23226188
A third minor point I left out is that frequently the parents don't even speak English, so neither do their kids, so schools also have to divide resources between teaching classes in English and teaching classes in illegal shitskin gibberish, which frequently leads to students being illiterate in both languages.

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>>23225708
>Why is being literate a good thing?
are you lost, anon? this is the /lit/ board. why the fuck are you even here

>> No.23226212

>>23223060
maybe its time to find a new line of work

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>>23226199

>> No.23226216

>>23223299
How would you feel if you had skipped breakfast this morning?

>> No.23226217

I'm lost in this thread. I guess I just don't see English as something worth caring about. When I hear stories like this I think "good"
Let the schools burn. And tear them down brick by brick. Let the English language die.

>> No.23226225

>>23226217
Don't you think it's good to be able to access information by means other than word of mouth?

>> No.23226226

>>23223157
yer maw punts cooncil

>> No.23226235

>>23226225
Honestly no to be honest. I wish things could go backwards a bit. I think things would be better if technology never evolved past radio. I don't look back on my schooling or my time spent reading online as worthwhile. In fact I think both of these things seriously lead me astray and I am now living a stunted ghost of a life as a direct result of my education.

>> No.23226242

>>23226235
You can be well read and also do other things. I'm a STEM grad who works in a lab, reads a bunch of science fiction, and took up boxing last year.

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>>23226235
>my time spent reading online
this board is for people who read books you dumbshit, of course reading 10,000 reddit and 4chins posts didn't make you smarter, holy shit

>> No.23226250

>>23226242
I'm not sure why you told me this
>>23226243
Yes and I don't think i can say with honesty my life has benefited from reading books. Why did you think I was referening internet posts?

>> No.23226259

>>23226250
>I don't think i can say with honesty my life has benefited from reading books
Then why are you here?

>> No.23226266

>>23225525
Millions must die

>> No.23226268

>>23226259
This is where I belong

>> No.23226278

>>23223150
Why is everyone so triggered? They just expect you to be a miracle worker I guess and overcome massive racial differences to somehow make these kids engineers. Hell, we should make you a zookeeper so the lions and bears can start programming and reciting Shakespeare.

>> No.23226290

>>23224393
I went to one of the worst inner city public schools in my state. There wasn’t a single white student who got held back, but tons of blacks and hispanics who did. The Honors and AP courses, what few we had, were 100% white with a couple of Asians.

>> No.23226299

>>23223343
Even the intelligent ones are spending more time with skibidi toilet shit than text. It’s the modern equivalent of letting your kid smoke opium instead of doing homework, only it’s normalized.

>> No.23226305

>>23223303
Literacy rates don’t tell the full story because what they measure is basically how many people have reached lowest common denominator literacy, which, frankly, is insufficient for most literate people.

>> No.23226314

>>23226268
No, you don't, you illiterate scoundrel. GTFO off the board and go back to /r9k/

>> No.23226317

>>23223426
A very literate person would’ve immediately recognized it was a foreign language, man…

>> No.23226323

>>23226314
I have never been there. I have only used /lit/ for over ten years.

>> No.23226324

>>23226250
>Why did you think I was referening internet posts?
because you literally said "I don't look back on ... my time spent reading online as worthwhile."
?????

>> No.23226328

>>23223183
>>23223085
With retards like this defending niggers who have been in the US longer than any other immigrant group and still to this day are incapable of speaking English, is it any wonder the state of education is at rock bottom? Before No Child Left Behind, retarded niggers would simply be expelled and that's that. But now everyone must suffer their existence and low and behold the entire system has degraded to levels of illiteracy seen only in Africa, the lowest common denominator

>> No.23226336

>>23225327
Things really are pretty bad. It’s depressing…

>> No.23226342

>>23225343
The vast majority of time wasn’t a technologically supported democracy retard. It’s too bad I won’t get to see you eat these stupid fucking words with a biracial broccoli-headed zoomer that can’t read but has a big social media following rizzes her way into the White House.

>> No.23226358

>>23225525
To the problem of declining IQ and literacy as the youth get more non-white? There is no solution. You will simply never turn the masses of African-Americans into engineers and scientists. It’s just not going to happen.

What’s actually going to happen is we are just going to stop keeping track because it’s racist and in 100 years, nobody will even remember that this is something we used to track or that most people were highly literate at one point.

>> No.23226359

>>23224393
>this is an obvious lie but the 80 IQers here (the majority) love it.
You're clearly a fucking idiot, but even you aren't 80 IQ.
When you get down to African American levels of IQ, they aren't "just like me but slower", their entire mode of thinking becomes completely foreign to how you, your fellow whites, and even the dumbest white you know operates.
Simple logic becomes impossible, they don't understand cause and effect, they're incapable of considering hypotheticals, and even trying to look up information to fill in the gaps in their own already pathetic knowledge base is beyond their reach.
They live in an ever present state of now, where anything they did in the past is some completely different nigga, and any planning for the future is a waste because they consider their future self to also be a completely different nigga. This makes learning, even painful learning from experience by fucking up in the worst ways possible, non-existent.

>> No.23226363

>>23225533
Why should whites have to give up their land to blacks just because the blacks can’t seem to learn to read or stop committing crimes otherwise? You’re just disenfranchising whites.

Segregation is not a solution.

>> No.23226372

>>23225868
I object, even though I'd be objecting to anecdotal evidence. I don't really object, your are eligible to your opinion, but I still recognize it as anecdotal evidence, and thus, a fallacy.

>> No.23226382

>>23225868
I’ve also noticed this. They just defer authority on any matter to any source because it’s a source.

>> No.23226386

>>23226217
The schools aren’t burning, retard. They’re just making school hellish for the small minority of white students who are doing well and they’re using your tax dollars to do it.

>> No.23226389

>>23226386
I don't care. Make it worse

>> No.23226392

>>23226250
What books have you read?

>> No.23226400

>>23226389
Accelerationism isn’t real, anon. You just get turned into a paypig serf for the democrat-kween institutional anristocracy and that goes on forever.

>> No.23226403

>>23226400
I'm not an accelerationist. I just don't like school or what it did to me. I don't care about your various -isms at all

>> No.23226623

>>23224528
Wow you're really mad. You seem really invested in proving that other people are inferior to you. Wonder why
>What appreciation of fucking education are you talking about? So it’s their culture
Could be. Cultural differences would explain why African immigrants do better.
Appreciation of education as in teaching your children that education is important, preparing them for academic success, buying them books growing up, etc
Actual slaves wouldn't have emphasized the importance of education to their kids. What is hard to understand about this?
>>23225204
>Member of a tribe that hasn’t invented a wheel and has no written language
That's kind of a superficial view but I don't want to get sidetracked into a separate argument.

>> No.23226798

>>23226216
I didn't skip breakfast this morning

>> No.23226881

>>23226216
What do you mean? Why the fuck are you asking me about breakfast. I didn't skip breakfast this morning so I can't know how I'd feel if I did. What is this supposed to mean?

>> No.23226890

>>23223071
You're gonna have a riot when my brother is in your class.
Make sure to stomp cheating. Usually people think cheating isn't a big deal, and I would say in the past sure it didn't matter. People cheat because they didn't care about school/had better things to do (back getting a job is much easier)
Now a days EVERYONE cheats, very quickly/easily, and it leads to this effect where there's zero point to actually studying. So they go through 4 years on chatGPT and can't study. I see my brother had to drop out of college (that he didn't pay a cent for cause mom and dad pay for it) because he "couldn't take the stress", and my brother's going down the same path. If they got tardwrangled early I feel they could have a better fate.
>>23223150
Can confirm we're sandniggers, and brothers act like niggers who can't read a book.
>>23223451
>Schools are staffed mostly by libtard whites or blacks, and both will cover for the worst of the worst black kids
Schools staffs are diverse. Meaning they will go out of their way to fuck up niggers while at the same time covering for them (e.g. they don't call cops when a nigger threatens to shoot school. They can't spare the budget however, to get classrooms, and instead students go to RVs for classes. And of course, if a teacher rapes a kid, they just go to a new district. But don't forget, it's Black history month, so we'll put a poster while the rapist gets away!).

>> No.23227111

>>23223834
Hate to break it to you, but extremists have always been the ones to change the world, win or lose. Who took over Russia in 1918? Who caused the Civil war? WW2? This world has always been an extremists game

>> No.23227272

does anyone have the long blogpost screencap of the professor talking about declining standards for math in college, with classes like "college algebra" teaching basically high school algebra 1? it's funny as fuck

>> No.23227393

>>23223963
>We are ruled by conservatives
u fucking wot

>> No.23227401

>>23227272
yeah funny how math is so bad it loses out to tiktok
i wonder what they feel knowing nobody will remember them because math lost to scantily clad women in vertical format videos

>> No.23227409

>>23224199
>it has always been like this
And there has always been a class of elites to guide the world nonetheless. This class will be extent within the next 20 years. Boomers will be gone and the post-war order will not have viable successors to take charge. That's the difference.

Today we can get away with most people being retards because competent elderly people are in charge of everything. In the future we only have TikTok porn addicts to run the world. They aren't exactly up to the fucking task if you haven't noticed.

>> No.23227432

>>23225469
>Things are starting to feel very Holy Roman Empire.
More like actual Rome. One of the signs of Rome's fall was the language of the educated classes, Greek, being phased out in favour of the easier and more familiar vernacular Latin. What was the use of a difficult and exclusive language that had no connection with the culture of the day? The same is happening to us with Latin itself.

>> No.23227435

>>23223060
They must have had shit teachers.

>> No.23227465

>>23227432
Don't forget the loss of the neuter in Latin. Every time a fat hairy woman gets upset that you used "he" as the default you can tell her to blame lazy Romans.

>> No.23227487

It's pathetic that people are still blaming everything on socio-economics. Basically every single respectable study that has come out in the last two decades supports the idea that genetics play a much, much larger role than we thought and that we were massively overestimating the importance of socio-economic factors. "muh socio-economics" is complete delusion and at odds with basically all of science at this point.

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>>23227487

>> No.23227506

>>23227487
When you have the realization that certain races are just inherently and objectively inferior to other races, it basically answers 90% of the questions about society people have. It makes so much make sense.

>> No.23227512

4 and everybody who posted in this thread has zero sex for the rest of 2024

>> No.23227517

>>23223137
>Revise the way math is taught to get away from rote memorization
>Change english to rote memorization
Brilliant move

>> No.23227522

>>23225327
This blackpill cannot be refused, I'm afraid.

>> No.23227539

>>23225327
Best post in this shit board's history.

>> No.23227542

>>23225327
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

great post btw

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>>23227512

>> No.23227573

>>23223137
There's a podcast called Sold a Story about this.

>> No.23227578

>>23225327
>However much women may honour their husbands, they nonetheless honour the recognized authorities and conceptions of society even more: for millennia they have been accustomed to stand before everything dominant with head bowed and arms folded across the chest, and they disapprove of all rebellion against the established power. For this reason they attach themselves - without even intending to do so but rather as though by instinct - to the wheels of a free-spirited, independent endeavour as a brake on them, and sometimes try the patience of their husbands beyond all measure, especially when the latter persuade themselves that what at bottom drives women to this behaviour is love. To disapprove of the methods of women and magnanimously to honour the motivation behind these methods - that is the way of men and often enough their despair.
Nietzsche

>> No.23227580

>>23227542
Excellent article, thanks anon.

>> No.23227599

Nothing good is in store for us. The world will be very different when the post-war generations die out. If you thought things were decadent now under our leaders then get ready for a time where there will be no leaders at all. I suggest you all find a nice bride and raise children with a rigorous education. In 20 years these will be seen as the glory days.

>> No.23227612

>>23227599
Just make plans to stay somewhat mobile and have some assets / skills that sell in any economy so that you can sense where the winds are blowing and get the hell out of dodge whenever things get bad. You can always up and relocate to some other small city or state. That sounds unappealing now but when the difference is between the city you're in, which has 3-4 George Floyd / '92 LA Riots per year, and struggling to prosper in some rural area but at least having a guaranteed roof over your head and food on the table, you will appreciate the simple things.

>> No.23227619

>>23227612
>have some assets / skills that sell in any economy
i have an engineering degree and can't get a job since there's too much competition. hopefully I can be employed in the next 10 years.

>> No.23227647

>>23225543
nta Are you a dunce? Black people complain because they're still getting discriminated. Not just in a verbal way, but their education budgets getting gutted, and their financial hardships are consistently terrible since the place they live in has zero upward mobility. Stop being a ignorant dumbass and do research that isn't from retards who act like crackheads

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>>23223469
Yep, and anons still wonder why this board is filled with so many insane morons who make bad post

>> No.23227787

>>23227612
>>23227619
Dumbfucks, when society collapses, no one is going to give a fuck about your degree. Learn how to plant crops and hunt with a bow and arrow.

It's actually crazy how people genuinely don't get how bad things are. Even the most redpilled people think just another depression is going to happen. Nobody gets that western civilization is basically over in the next 10-20 years. Possibly accelerated even sooner if we keep putting niggers and women in positions of power.

>> No.23227947

>>23225327
This post is 100% right, but it's not going to be Brazil, it's going to be South Africa.

>> No.23228236

>>23223060
I tutor my girlfriend's sister, 7, and she's hardly literate. They transitioned to teaching English phonetically at some point and it's crippled students.
I became concerned when I realized her reading homework was little more than counting: "1 apple, 2 apples, a bag of 3 apples..." I made an appointment with her teacher to ask where she stood compared to the class average, at least from what I was told she's dead in the centre. Nothing I try can undo the shitty system they've implemented. I was reading Lord of the Rings by the time I was in the third grade, she can hardly read her name.

>> No.23228268

>>23227647
>their education budgets getting gutted, and their financial hardships are consistently terrible since the place they live in has zero upward mobility.
Are you a dunce? Black schools in impoverished city neighborhoods have 500x the budget other schools get. They get all the top of the line computers, the language labs, fully stocked science labs, they get first pick of every new gadget the board of education acquires. You think the government is ignoring these schools and letting them fail? They've wasted hundreds of billions of dollars on these schools.

>> No.23228284

>>23223469
>t. furious pajeet
You will never be human.

>> No.23228563

>>23225831
Interesting that you mention the STEM zealots, because one of the worst places this is true is the military. I was enlisted, but worked a lot side-by-side with officers of various ranks in my job. Now I’m in college and toying with the idea of commissioning, but the bizarre hard-on every service branch has for STEM degrees is tripping me up. Yes, I suppose a nuclear engineer officer on a submarine should be STEM, but for the majority of officers, their duties are personell management, tactical decision-making, contingency planning, leading the enlisted, and logistics. None of those require advanced STEM study, and in fact I have argued before that a comprehensive study of the humanities and liberal arts (in its original definition) would actually create a better officer than another compsci drone. I would bet money that an officer who had to, say, read and debate Thucydides and Plutarch, or compare and defend Kant vs Aquinas, would make a much more capable and well-rounded officer who could adapt to virtually any role the military wanted him to be. I’ve literally worked with field officers who, in wargaming exercises, were astounded when an enlisted colleague and I copied Walter Model’s concept of elastic defense and fire brigades, like it was some alien concept. Do they just not read history books? Our overconfidence in technological superiority is going to bite us in the ass in the next war if we keep maintaining an officer corps of midwits who can’t think critically or understand how their work fits into the big picture.

>> No.23228626

>>23228563
Military really wants a backbone for SHTF.
Stem officer can reeducate in months if needed, while a officer is just a fancy duck.

Fancy ducks Are easier to conscript than 3-5 years specialized education

>> No.23229277

>>23223739
You're acting like "brownoids" started it first or something. Why don't you shut the fuck up and lead by example?

>> No.23229347

>>23223060

I work a shitty job and often have to train people. Yes, lots of folks walking around are functionally illiterate. They look at the front of the word, then try to guess what the rest of the word might be.

They're not actually all that basically stupid when you talk to them, but they can't read.

>> No.23229384

>>23228268

Have you ever been in a black school? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>> No.23229424

>>23228563
>Thucydides, Plutarch, Kant, Aquinas

The modern humanities student has no interest in dead white males except to critique them through an intersectional queer feminist lens. Hardly a surprise the military isn’t all that interested.

>> No.23229447

>>23229384
NTA but he is right that black schools get much higher funding than average public schools do, much less schools in rural white areas. They often are the target of these renewal initiatives because they're so poorly performing despite the money invested but usually the students just destroy and steal whatever fancy equipment the district buys for them. What's absurd is that you're trying to argue that black schools are underfunded or undersupplied compared to predominantly white schools. You're completely out of touch with reality.

>> No.23229451

>>23223137
Can confirm that this is true.

>> No.23229553

>>23225382
You aren't ready for this one speed reading retard: it is a building block of internal monologue generation. Sounding out words phonetically synergizes with the internal monologue.

>> No.23229578

>>23228236
>>23223060

Here's what I think the problem is from overhearing secondhand stories of people I am not involved in teaching myself but know peolpe who are involved in it I'm UK based but it seems liike we're having the same issues as America.

I think it's because the traditional nuclear family is pretty much dead or slowly dying whatever way you want to look at it. Ask yourself next time you go into your job how many of the kids acting up are from single parent backround, with no father figure around, and a mother living on benefits? She doesn't care about teaching them anything when she is more than likely getting railed by Chads, or Brads off of dating apps. There's no strong white male role model anymore left for younger people to look up too, they just want instant gratifaction, or validation while getting rich through the easy methods possible without any real lack of discipline or hard work being put into it.

You could blame phones I guess. It's an easy answer but I don't think that's the root cause of the problems, I'm also pretty sick of seeing mothers push their kids around in a pram while they are glued to it not taking their eyes off the screen, or lazy parents using tablets, or smartphones as a way to stop their kids from acting up whenever they can't be controlled. It' just all around shitty parenting mixed in with shitty teachers who aren't seen as threatning anymore because the kids are allowed to walk all over them.

Partly I blame the welfare system too because it phased out the need for a father figure at home. Why should there be a dad involved now when the state, and single mothers could just raise them without any influence from them.