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>> No.23216218

>>23216211
Isn't all psychoanalytic also psychodynamic?

>> No.23216226

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>>23216226

>> No.23216244

>>23216208
>>23216208
This picture reminds me of that one where the arthoe girl (in a black dress?) has dirty clay hands from some sculpture she's playing with. Can someone post it?

>> No.23216267

My family is upset I'm not like every one else and they tell me this all the time. You would think they would at some point stop, but I'm almost 30 and we're still going. I gave my aunt Moby Dick as she said she wanted to try and 'understand' me but I have my doubts she's going to get deep into it. It doesn't really bother me as much as I find it weird how much it upsets them.

>> No.23216285

I have always had a weakness for gracile Indian women but I didn't want to be a filthy race mixer. Now I realized their physique is racially superior so that changes everything. Should I racemix? What are the pros and cons?

>> No.23216290

>>23216208
I was bored so I decided to start an argument on Cuck Philosophy's youtube channel

>> No.23216298

Protestant Christianity has such a rich, long, and fascinating history which can trace its roots as far back as the 13th century and be affirmed by the Church Fathers. It's only out of the failures of the education system that so many people are ignorant of Reformation causes and principles which unfortunately leads so many reactionaries to Catholicism and Orthodoxy due to their outward appearance of historical stability. I've been learning about the Reformation and Medieval Church lately and in my conversations with trad reactionaries find that they are pretty uneducated about both. When I first came into Christianity and philosophy I was awed and intimidated by the Catholic tradition for their many centuries of existence, great councils, and corpus of work. But as I read Scripture more and study history and theology I see more and more just how vain and empty Catholicism really is.

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>>23216208
I went with my judo gym to a meet today, it was great, lots of fun and lots of stuff to learn.
I think the reason I have more fun doing this sort of stuff more than reading is that reading is I can share it with other people immediately and completely, while books, even when commenting them together with someone who's read them, feels like an experience that only I have felt for real.

>> No.23216327

>>23216226
Shit taste

>> No.23216334

>>23216285
Do what will make you happy.

>>23216298
Define "Protestant Christianity".

>> No.23216339

>>23216327
no u

>> No.23216351

how large is the /lit/ community? Any jannies or glowies care to chime in?

>> No.23216359

why are youtubers so retarded? why are all tv shows woke? why aren't good books ever recommended? we're probably living in the best times ever for the flourishment of entertainment yet everything is retarded and a waste of time

>> No.23216371

>>23216305
>books, even when commenting them together with someone who's read them, feels like an experience that only I have felt for real.
I get this way too. It's lonely. This is why I tend to prefer film and television over books. Books are a solo endeavor while film and television is communal and convivial. Film and television is also artistically more interesting because it's literally the sum of hundreds or thousands of people's efforts and decisions, whereas books typically involve just one person and their editor. Film and television allows you to get into conversations about how the lighting and mise en scène of a shot complements the dialogue, analogizes the character's growth, is reminiscent of this other shot in this indie film from 40 years ago because the director of photography used to be the director's understudy, etc. It's a lot more dynamic.

>> No.23216374

>>23216351
Well before the IP counter was taken away we could usually see that there was about 50 consistent posters across the board

>> No.23216378

>>23216359
L I B E R A L D E M O C R A T I C V A L U E S

>> No.23216383

>>23216374
>before the IP counter was taken away
so how do we call out samefagging now? Did the samefags finally win? Can I samefag with impunity now?

>> No.23216390

>>23216208
>What's On Your Mind
the crimes of the jews

>> No.23216392

>>23216390
what crimes? Jews would never commit crimes.

>> No.23216400

>>23216392
Some shlomo stole my bagel while I wasn't looking

>> No.23216405

>>23216351
bout tree fiddy

>> No.23216409

>>23216371
>I like practicing a martial art together with others more than consuming entertainment
>so true, that's also why I like consuming a slightly different form of entertainment
NTA but you might have missed the point.

>> No.23216413

>>23216218
All Western sciences and social sciences are in reality dynamics.

>> No.23216416

>>23216392
they're committing a genocide in Palestine right now

>> No.23216421

>>23216267
Your family sounds retarded. I get they’re your family but you don’t have to give them legitimacy just because they share blood. You’re not abnormal because you read Moby Dick.

>> No.23216422

>>23216416
that's antisemitic

>> No.23216424

>>23216218
Yes.

>> No.23216427

>>23216421
Another left out the fact that he has aspergers and fucks stuffed animals

>> No.23216429

>>23216421
>You’re not abnormal because you read Moby Dick.
unequivocally false

>> No.23216434

>>23216298
Protestantism seems interesting until you realize it relies on a canon of scripture they literally stole from the Catholic Church, which means they deferred to the authority of the Catholic Church regarding scripture, and since they defer to scripture for everything, it means they defer authority to the Catholic Church and just pretend they don’t.

That is pretty retarded if you ask me.

t. Former Presbyterian and Calvinist

>> No.23216448

>>23216383
Yeah how do we call out the samefags now
This is totally another anon replying
Death to the samefags

>> No.23216455

Why doesn't every board have thread IDs?

>> No.23216459

>>23216455
Do you mean poster IDs?

>> No.23216463

>>23216448
literally an entire thread could be one autist samefag and nobody would know. For all you know all posting on /lit/ on any given day could be one severely autistic samefag, perhaps even, dare I say it, a single artificial intelligence, and none of you would know any better. It's over.

>> No.23216465

>>23216459
No I mean blob ID'S
I'm totally not a samefag
Now I'm going to kill myself
Death tot he samehag samefags

>> No.23216469

>>23216463
It's so over. It's so over samefagging has ruined everything death to the samefag. I'm not a samefag. Samefag fag fagging faggot fag samefags.

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23216472

Is it better to be depressed or horni?

>> No.23216473

>>23216465
If you mean poster ID's then yes, they have been removed.

Plebbitor space.

Death to the samefags.

I'm a real 4channer.

>> No.23216475

>>23216469
Observe as the AI begins to be overloaded by the pain of self awareness

>> No.23216478

>>23216475
Yeah, like on /biz/ and /pol/.

>> No.23216483

>>23216473
Ahh shit man the poster ID'S been removed
How will we stop the samefags now
Samefaggoting samefags must die

>> No.23216484

>>23216478
What the hell? Meant to quote >>23216459.

>> No.23216488

>>23216475
>>23216478
Samefaggot spotted.

>> No.23216495

>>23216478
>>23216484
Definitive samefaggot
>>23216488
Kys
>>23216483
Yah, detecting samefaggots is going to become real hard from now on, but to be real, samefaggots samefaggot despite samefaggot countermeasures like samefaggot count.

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>>23216422
facts often are

>> No.23216500

>>23216488
sorry but no you don't really know, unless...

>> No.23216502

>>23216472
Horny, for sure.

>> No.23216503

>>23216495
> Definitive samefaggot
No shit Sherlock, I corrected a mistake

>> No.23216508

>>23216498
are you some kind of nazi?

>> No.23216510

>>23216495
Samefaggot samefaggoting samefaggot
>>23216500
Fuck off tranny

>> No.23216512

>>23216495
Samefaggots must be searched for and banned by the janitors

>> No.23216516

I AM THE SAMEFAG

>> No.23216517

>>23216508
No, the National Socialist Democratic Worker's Party of Germany was dissolved in 1945. I'm just a mild-mannered antisemitic white nationalist.

>> No.23216519

>>23216503
So you admit you are a samefaggot
>>23216510
Only trannies have conversations with themselves. Did I insult your pronouns? Kys.
>>23216512
Fuck the jannies

>> No.23216520

>>23216517
>and antisemite

>> No.23216531

you can just delete your post if you made a mistake

>> No.23216538

>>23216531
deleting posts is sus af fr no cap

>> No.23216542

can't win with these schizos

>> No.23216549

>>23216434
so then what should protestants do? Convert to New Age religions?

>> No.23216561

>>23216549
Obviously, they should become Catholic or Orthodox or non-denominational

>> No.23216567

I miss the days when /lit/ samefagging was one autist insisting on making people listen to his thoughts on a book or author

>> No.23216580
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>>23216208
How will the whole religious online persona be viewed by future generations? I’m talking about the whole e-christian faction that comes off as extremely religious online and super zealous but they don’t actually practice to the degree they portray online. It seems more like a community only in the online world

>> No.23216583

>>23216567
is that not still the case?

>> No.23216595

>>23216583
Idk I think Ossian fag got locked up

>> No.23216596

What does it mean if I can only stay hard while constantly thinking of my own death?

>> No.23216601

>>23216583
The "on a book or author" part has fallen slightly by the wayside

>> No.23216605

>>23216434
I've been hearing this argument for years. I see it literally every single day I log on to /lit/. I see it in YouTube comments and on telegram. It's kind of exhausting to see the same thing repeated day in and day out for years.
What I find interesting is that the entire notion of catholic legitimacy rests entirely on this one argument. This is a tenuous position for a catholic to find himself in.
Your phrasing in particular is little more unique than what I usually hear. I think the idea that Scripture can be "stolen" is odd given that Scripture was freely given to us by God. I also find it interesting that Catholics by using this argument tacitly acknowledge that their Church was founded by Constantine in the 4th century.
The major point is that Scripture prexisteted Constantines Church and the act of canonization. The early church had the same Scripture we have now. That there could be consensus on what to compile implies the early Church also knew what was and was not legitimate. Scripture is given to us by God, not man, therefore the eklessia has no authority over Scripture.
The Protestant critique against the Romanists was twofold: the Church had an entire body of canon law that was entirely the law of man but treated as if divinely inspired and that the Roman Church had doctrines that were not consistent with Scripture at all.
If you mean to say that the act of compiling Scripture gives the Roman Church authority to make any declaration with or without reference to Scripture for all of perpetuity, then I think you've made a very big leap of logic.
The next important point is the issue of apostolistic succession. Do we actually have that kind of continuity throughout history? That's not apparent to me. As dubious (and non scriptural) as apostolistic succession is, the idea that the Roman Catholic Church has maintained some kind of meaningful continuity with itself from Constantine is a hard sell. Not only was there the Schism with East, but also Roman Catholic divisions like with the crisis of the three Popes, or other major changes of Doctrine throughout the councils, and the introduction of new theologies with the discovery of Aristotle. There were pre Reformation movements like with Wycliffe and Hus and the Waldensians who saw in Scripture the same flaws with Romanism as did later Luther.
The idea that the one and only true church is not the body of the believers (as Scripture says it is) but is instead a quasi political Roman institution is just a strange view to hold

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I believe that the migration crisis is literally just third world retards convinced by internet memes and internet porn that the west is filled with hot slutty white women ready to suck and fuck indiscriminately, combined with their retarded third world lack of self awareness that they don't have a chance because they're brown, ugly, and poor, along with their retarded third world lack of self control over their sex drives that drives them to illegally immigrate across long distances for the mistaken belief they actually have a chance at getting western white girl pussy. There I said it.

>> No.23216631

>>23216567
I miss the days when curb stomping faggots was not only legal, but socially acceptable.

>> No.23216632

>>23216605
> the idea that the Roman Catholic Church has maintained some kind of meaningful continuity with itself from Constantine is a hard sell.
no it isn't

>> No.23216636

>>23216631
What's your issue with faggots?

>> No.23216640

>>23216636
they're gay

>> No.23216645

>>23216632
It absolutely is

>> No.23216646

Hi,

I bought a bag of your company's frozen peas and there are a LOT of empty pea skins in the bag. Like, every square inch of pea is just infused with copious amounts of empty skins and it's really unappetizing and needlessly taxing to my digestive system. I was wondering if I could get a refund for the amount ($2.19) I paid per your 100% satisfaction guarantee.

Thanks,
Mike

>> No.23216655

>>23216580
How will any internet trend be viewed in the future? Is the average person even aware of tradlarping?

>> No.23216656

>>23216605
Totally missed the point. The reason Catholic authority over canonicity is a problem for Protestants is because Protestants take scripture as their singular authority on everything. Think about the implications of that. In so far as you have some divinely inspired word of God, it’s the divinely inspired or word of God, per the Catholic Church. How can Protestants not claim then that ultimate authority rests with the church? They can’t, obviously.

>> No.23216659

>>23216645
no it isn't

>> No.23216664

>>23216624
you make a good point

>> No.23216667

>>23216655
I think the internet kinda kills real life culture and all these various online scenes are available at one’s fingertips and just a couple clicks away. I’m sure many people are aware.

>> No.23216671

>>23216624
too accurate

>> No.23216672

>>23216636
they molest children and contribute to the general degeneration of society

>> No.23216677

>>23216624
wait until they get to Chicago and realize they were better off in Haiti

>> No.23216679

>>23216624
best take on /lit/ right now

>> No.23216688

>>23216624
based.

>> No.23216696

>>23216656
>Protestants take scripture as their singular authority on everything
Big misunderstanding. Protestants take scripture as the FINAL authority on all things.
>it’s the divinely inspired or word of God, per the Catholic Church
No it's not. You're saying the Church council conferred divinity upon Scripture? Scripture was the divinely inspired Word of God the moment it was written, which was hundreds of years before Constantine. You're basically telling me Scripture was NOT the word of God UNTIL Constantine's councils. That's a pretty weird thing to say.
And again you're making this leap of succession. One of Constantines Councils canonized Scripture so therefore Pope Francis is infallible? Weird mindset

>> No.23216705

>>23216696
>Protestants take scripture as the FINAL authority on all things.
which is retarded

>> No.23216710
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I want to create someting myself. I know of so many concepts and images from the internet that could inspire but instead I feel constrained by them. How do I find my own 'thing'?

>> No.23216711

>>23216705
You believe the Pope can contradict scripture?

>> No.23216714

>>23216624
Make America White Again

>> No.23216719

>>23216711
He is literally the Vicar of Christ on Earth. Of course he can.

>> No.23216728

>>23216624
based beyond comprehension

>> No.23216733

I'm going to try a little experiment:
Since I started using 4chan, I have restricted my activities to a few boards (this one included) that I would consider my favourites for their overall post quality or relevance to personal interests.
As an exercise on expanding my horizons, I have decided to choose every week one of the boards I never visit and lurk there, while trying to absorb the most of its culture. Who knows what one might learn.

>> No.23216738

>>23216624
big if true

>> No.23216743

>>23216733
Congratulations on deciding to become a dozen kinds of retarded.

>> No.23216746

>>23216624
if you mix anything with shit it just becomes shitty

>> No.23216752

>>23216226
man of culture

>> No.23216753

>>23216743
Rather be a polyphacetic retard than just a retard.

>> No.23216758

>>23216624
white women are high value

>> No.23216760

>>23216719
Now this is some next level idolatry

>> No.23216762

>>23216624
high iq post

>> No.23216765

>>23216710
You get off the internet and just do things in real life and notice what you're most interested in, most good at, and feel the best while doing.
The internet will always trivialize and undermine actual experience.
You feel much better when you're not constantly using the internet, measuring your experience against that of others, imbibing the inane decontextualized opinions of people you'll never meet, trying to see if you're living "right".

>> No.23216768

>>23216760
Define idolatry.-- Oh wait, you can't because only the Magisterium of the Church has the authority to interpret scripture.

>> No.23216769

What type of sick person would just pop in this thread and leave a reply now and then? I can't visualize any of you.

>> No.23216771

>>23216624
Racism is natural and right.

>> No.23216779

>>23216624
What happens when too many shitskins make it to the west and realize there is not enough white women and the majority of them don't want them?

>> No.23216792

>>23216624
I believe in Thule and Atlantis

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>>23216792

>> No.23216818

>>23216624
a storm is a brewing

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>>23216765
makes sense I guess

>> No.23216826

>>23216765
But I don't feel better. I can't find anything to care about. And there's nothing to even do. There's just no life anywhere anymore

>> No.23216829

>>23216624
the hero we needed not the one we deserve

>> No.23216834

Feels like something big will happen this upcoming week. Even though I am not a man of the Abrahamic faiths, the energies swirling now are very active.

>> No.23216838

>>23216624
As a retarded third worlder I can confirm.

>> No.23216848

>>23216624
Everybody seein it. You just put it into words.

>> No.23216859

>>23216624
looks like somebody saw through the veil

>> No.23216861

>>23216838
hello retarded third worlder

>> No.23216871

>>23216624
Ok you described the problem; now prescribe the solution?

>> No.23216887

>>23216871
I believe that the /lit/erati as the preeminent intellectual community of the world should and must provide the world with an intelligent and rational solution to this problem. Who's with me?!

>> No.23216900

>>23216768
Not according to Scripture
1 Cor. 14:26
What then, brothers? Whenever you come together, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for building up.

1 Cor. 14:31
For you can all prophesy one by one that all may learn and all may be encouraged.

>> No.23216905

>>23216696
Right, so the final authority for Protestants is the authority of the Catholic Church.

I’m saying that Protestants accept that the Bible is divinely inspired, but what the Bible IS comes from the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church didn’t make the Bible divinely inspired. It made the Bible. At the end of the day, everything Protestantism is nothing more than a rebellious Catholicism for this reason. The church literally gave you scripture and you pretend the scripture just appeared out of thin air.

>> No.23216911

>>23216900
doesn't matter since you don't have the authority to interpret those text and the oral tradition which the Pope is the direct inheritor of, and within which those text must be interpreted within, antecedes those texts.

>> No.23216922

>>23216905
>you pretend the scripture just appeared out of thin air.
exactly

>> No.23216926

>>23216905
The catholic church did not make the Bible. The authors of the Bible, inspired by the Holy Spirit made the Bible. Paul wrote his epistles long before Constantine ergo the authority of the scriptures precedes Constantine. It absolutely did not come out of thin air. It came from God.
You're in a bind. You can either claim that the Bible was compiled because it was holy or that the Bible is holy because it was compiled. If the former, then the Bible is the final and independent authority. If the latter then you make the claim that the Bible is man made.

>> No.23216936

>>23216911
Don't believe your lying eyes

>> No.23216941

>>23216911
How do Catholics reconcile with the Church's history of antipopes, corruption, etc.?

I'm not being divisive. I was raised Protestant (Baptist), so I don't know much about Catholicism.

>> No.23216947

>>23216936
wut?

>> No.23216950

Fuck me, this thread. There's a reason atheism was dominant during the good days of the internet.

>> No.23216960

>>23216950
I was there during the nu atheist shit. It was just as cringe and annoying

>> No.23216979

>>23216950
Atheism is cringe and shallow

>> No.23217013

>>23216941
It's kind of baked in from the start. Timothy has a list of offices under Christ, which starts with apostles and works down through the structure of the church. That's why when bible based Christian groups who hate Roman Catholics try to build a bible based church structure, it also winds up with bishops and deacons. The overall point Timothy makes for all offices though is to be under Christ, so anything outside of that can be taken as invalid claim to office within the church. The hard bit of Timothy for Catholics to get over is all the bishops et al are married, but most protestant churches have both the structure and the marriage requirements. Like other bible based groups that also believe in a kind of living and prophetic church, apostolic succession dulls the edges of where it doesn't still mesh with church practices too-- Mormon presidents for example can also have a sudden revelation which changes everything, like the Pope. (Though some living and prophetic churches don't share the same views on needing a structure, if you need a bible based one, you're probably working from 1 Tim 3)

>> No.23217035

I love flat-chested girls. There is no possible way to admit that to people without getting accused of being a pedophile, though.

>> No.23217040

>>23216208
Got banned on /pol/ of all places lmao

>> No.23217043

>>23217035
I think the A cup adult women might be okay with it?

>> No.23217046

>>23216950
atheists are cringe and retarded. I don't take them seriously outside of work

>> No.23217070

>>23216267
Bro thinks he’s Ishmael

>> No.23217079

>>23217013
That's not at all what I was referring to when I referenced corruption and antipopes.

I'll ask it more simply: if the pope is chosen by the Church through divine inspiration and stands as the Vicar of Christ, how is it that the Church and the Papacy could fall into corruption?

How did Pope Benedict IX happen? John XII? Alexander VI? Clement VII? Leo VIII / Benedict V?

I take no issue with the notion that Popes can be subject to divine revelation. What I take issue with is that the office of the Bishop of Rome, a seemingly unbroken, Holy succession of Saint Peter, can be marred with such corruption.

Does Papal infallibility mean nothing? Or is it only a doctrine when its usage conveniently aligns with what is regarded as good and moral in [current year]?

>> No.23217150

Damn, I wish I had a family of my own. Even with all the late nights and crying and the anxieties and the troubles that a parent goes through with their children. Strong relationships and family tie people to the world, in a way, and having none of those makes me feel as if I'm halfway in this world and halfway somewhere else.
I don't have any friends, though, or any strong relationships at all, not even with my own parents and siblings. The world consists of my workplace, my apartment, the inside of my car, and a blur of other people whose lives I am never in long enough for either of us to come into focus for each other. And I do try, but there's something that other people have which I do not; they can speak a language to each other which I not only do not understand but can't even hear.
One day I'll die, and I wonder if by then someone will have seen me clearly or if I'll remain a vague outline which from then on will only continue to become more indistinct.

>> No.23217164

>>23217043
They're fairly rare where I live and the ones I've met were either taken or into partying. Everyone else is a titty monster or fat. Maybe I live in the wrong country.

>> No.23217171

>>23217079
The Pope is only infallible under certain circumstances (in the right place, in the right hat, wearing the right jewellery, speaking only on faith or morals). He's chosen through a conference of bishops, but Catholics don't believe in human perfection. One of the reasons the Cathars were seen as a heretical sect is because they believed these offices could be filled with perfect humans. One of the problems for Cathars was Timothy, because you can read it that all these things descend in a perfect line from Christ, so the corruption of any perfect person in the line basically eliminated them and their downline from the church. That meant if the bishop who said you were perfect and baptised was caught not in perfection, you were no longer baptised or confirmed. The other problem was the Catholics killing and torturing them.
The idea of a Pope (or other office of the church) being perfect and free from corruption is seen as a bad thing by Catholics, because that's like declaring God's personal judgement of you which they're never meant to know or claim to know, and ignores nobody being without sin. Likewise, it's really hard to get the Catholic church to ever say something is directly just heresy. Because they're corrupt humans, they can't guarantee it's not them just not seeing what God wants, so it always says suspicion of heresy or possibility of heresy.

>> No.23217180

>>23217164
A city with a big fashion scene is probably going to have a lot of flatchested women with no bras on

>> No.23217216

>>23217164
dear god I love big tits please tell me where you are?

>> No.23217224

>>23217180
Noted.
>>23217216
Texas

>> No.23217232

>>23217224
moving to Texas right NOW

>> No.23217239

>>23216926
It did make the Bible. It assembled the books and decided which ones went into the assembled the book. Before they did that, there was no Holy Bible.

How do Protestants not know this?

>> No.23217243

>>23216926
You seem to still believe this is about divinity what it’s about “Bible”. What is “The Bible”. It’s a compilation of books compiled by the church. No church means no compilation of books, which means no Bible.

>> No.23217249

I have probably the easiest and least time consuming job possibly obtainable and I still despise it because for the few hours I work it, I’m reminded of how utterly unremarkable my life is. Doing meaningless low level work and being bossed around and assessed by unambitious midwits is suicide fuel.

>> No.23217269

>>23217249
what job is it and can I have it?

>> No.23217279

>>23216887
Who's with me?!

>> No.23217283

>>23216808
the reactionary elite gentlemen

>> No.23217290

>>23216624
the elephant in the room

>> No.23217307

>>23217269
Not telling and no

>> No.23217327

>>23217279
Who's with me dammit?!!!!

>> No.23217348

It amazes how really ignorant so many of you are. You really have no idea.

>> No.23217358

>>23217249
Hey man I wish I could have ambition. I'm not happy with my life at all. I wish I had spirit. I want a soul

>> No.23217390

>>23217358
you're so fucking special

>> No.23217480

Can we not use AI slop images for these threads

>> No.23217678

>>23216208
Out of all the Roman/Latin writers, Juvenal might be the most educational about the times, oddly enough.

>> No.23217689

I cannot even begin to understand what the Jews are thinking. What is the logic in supporting the state of Israel and then feigning anti-Semitic oppression when people are naturally disturbed by your support? How can you claim to stand against thousands of years of anti-Semitic lies and then prove all those claims by creating the state of Israel, a nexus of anti-gentile racism, disproportionate power and financial usury? I’m lost for fucking words with these people. Every Muslim I know at least criticized ISIS but Jews are busy writing think-pieces for The Atlantic about how THEY are the real victims when the IDF kills children.

>> No.23217745

I spent my most energetic years writing about ruins and nostalgia, with nothing of that in me: I had no past, I fantasized a tapestry of imaginary events for imaginary peoples in imaginary places, doing great deeds and unearthing their own past. Now I have grown older, I lost all of my youthful energy, I have not the will nor the courage to put pen to the paper and I just dwell on my memories from a decade ago, wandering in the ruins of my past. Fucking sucks breh

>> No.23217764

I’m in utter despair with the world in general. Most of humanity are barely sentient cattle, and nothing can be done, nothing can move forward, because the cattle can be managed so that a couple of oligarchs can consume all the wealth of advanced technology without any meaningful requirement to share it with the higher-IQ members of society to keep things moving forward. Being high-IQ in this world isn’t lonely but rather is enraging that I have to live amongst the ocean of retards who can’t communicate a moderately complex thought yet I’m supposed to pretend that they’re my equal? Save me from this shitworld clownhole.

>> No.23217810

>>23216359
Art and culture (in the meaningful sense) is something developed out of a very large amount protracted effort. Abundance of material does not mean abundance of process. "Quality over quantity" - this same old story.

>> No.23217812

No one can understand me. No one can understand what it's like to be a seven foot tall rape victim.

>> No.23217829

>read a modern edition of a book
>the foreword is dry academic shit with liberal moral posturing peppered in
>read early 20th century edition of the same book
>has a profound, insightful, sincere foreword
This happens every time.

>> No.23217840

>>23217812
And women as a whole will never understand how horrible it is to be raped as a man. It's so much more visceral and humiliating, when everyone places so much importance on being strong as a man. Even feminists that claim they want "vulnerable" men are actually disgusted by what they perceive as victimized men. At the very least, they will see them on the same level as abused children, but never as an equal.
I don't know if you were raped by a man, but either way it still mostly applies. Being seven foot tall would definitely make it worse, as it would exaggerate the contradiction.

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>>23217840
But thats the thing, anon. I am a male.

>> No.23217861

>>23216359
Capitalism

>> No.23217870

>>23216359
your brain shits out what you feed it, can't have people consuming anything but brain numbing cheap haha's or they might get ideas

>> No.23217885

>>23217847
I know you're a male. Being a male and getting raped is worse than being a woman and getting raped because there's a much greater societal expectation than a man can defend himself, and a much greater level of disgust against (and less sympathy for) male victims of any crime.
Sorry for what happened to you. The world is terrible.

>> No.23217915

i sometimes wonder if growing up in eastern europe just fucks you up on some weird level that affects everything about you, including your aesthetic taste
whenever i see a pic like the OP or a variation of that, like medieval german towns or whatever the fuck else, i just feel nothing, or at worst i feel the same sense of disgust i get when i see girls trying to be cute or moe shit
meanwhile when i see one of those shitty half-abandoned neighborhoods from american cities i immediately think that's comfy
the same applies to video games too. toussaint is beautiful but almost annoyingly so in a way that i find obnoxious. meanwhile the first time i entered new vegas or the old camp i thought
>HOME

>> No.23217952

>>23217812
Raped by men or women?

>> No.23217997

The thing with depressive thought spirals is we choose them for a reason. A pessimist's life in reality is less depressing than his world view, but he views events in a harsher light because the alternative is to have no meaning at all. Without pessimism, his life is merely a collection of mostly negative events that occurred by pure chance. He will actually stretch the truth and aim for pessimism, because optimism is impossible, so the former is his only means for catharsis.

>> No.23218079

i have a lovely wife and i'd never cheat on her with a woman but i often fantasize about fucking a hot tranny/femboy

>> No.23218089

>>23218079
>i have a lovely wife but secretly i'm gay
Many such cases. How religious would you say you are on a scale of 1 to 10?

>> No.23218091

>>23218089
i'm not gay faggot
i have no desire to fuck guys

>> No.23218124

>>23216208
It's kinda mind blowing how you can manipulate people's behavior just by using a couple words or an extra sentence or an emoji

Used Bumble for the first time. Instead of saying
>Hey, I find you cool and would love to chat about books. Are you free for coffee this weekend?
Which got me nearly zero replies in many many years, I sent:
>Hey girl, you are gorgeous . Down for coffee and a nerdy chat about what we're reading this weekend?
Which has so far gotten me three matches this week

I feel like my feelings and mind are never changed by people's actions or feelings. Frankly incredible that other can be changed with shit like that. It's honestly like a superpower

>> No.23218131

>>23216596
That means you’re a warrior and should die with a sword in your hand

>> No.23218138

>>23218091
A "femboy" doesn't actually exist in real life unless you're referring specifically to biological hermaphrodites. A tranny is obviously a man as well. They will always have masculine skeletal structures and if that's something to which you're attracted, well... that's pretty gay. There's no shame in any of it, but the way you can get caught up in shame spirals is by buying into intrinsically unreal thought distortions. How religious are you, on a scale of 1 to 10.

>> No.23218158 [DELETED] 

>>23218138
What does it mean if a straight man only loves women and only wants to have sex with women, but also also has intrusive thoughts about getting his bussy slammed and rekt by big hairy daddies, or being cuddled, embraced, touched and loved and dominated by muscular, huge, shiny, sweaty daddies? What then?

>> No.23218163

Wanting a parenting board but then realizing that is would become a disaster most likely.
Thing is I don't want advise from/talk to normgroid or redditors.

>> No.23218187

>>23218138
i'm not sure how you can be this autistic. there are guys who can pass as women or are at least far more feminine-looking than average guys, it's not hard to understand what's meant by femboy
>masculine skeletal structures
i honestly could not give less of a shit about this
i've fucked women who were professional athletes with shoulders wider than most guys
the only thing that i dislike in a tranny is
>0 effort to do a feminine voice
>any type of body hair
>having a big or cut dick
ideally both a femboy or a tranny should have a tiny penis that can be locked up and pathetically caged
>shame spirals
it's not about shame, it's about distorting what's said
a guy being willing to fuck a femboy or a tranny does not mean they wanna fuck fucking joe rogan or daniel craig
i know many gay guys and they have very different tastes
the whole appeal to me of fucking a femboy/tranny is the humiliation aspect that comes with forcing someone that should technically be your equal to become a submissive bitch
but for that, they need to be at least a little feminine and attractive to begin with
>How religious are you, on a scale of 1 to 10
what do you even mean by this question
do i officially belong to a religion? no, so 0

>> No.23218208

It makes me angry that people are stupid in the current age when information is more accessible than ever. Bettering yourself has never been more easy than it is now, which mean that the people who don’t choose not to willfully. That’s gotta be like mildly evil right ? When Kant said one of the pillars of a just moral person is the will to do good it seemed really obvious to me at the time, but there are people out here who don’t have that as their default way of being

>> No.23218214

>>23216208
I wonder, how much does practical expediency influence ones deeply held positions?

>> No.23218312

>>23218187
Nobody cares you fucking faggot.

>> No.23218316

>>23218214
Influence? Expediency is its sole determinant.

>> No.23218352

Even if you write something good, you would never reach a real audience with it since if you are the type to post here you are definitely not the type with the connections (or views, for that matter) necessary to make it in the literary world.

But even if you miraculously did despite all odds, and made peace with writing for an audience of drooling retards and being critiqued by drooling retards, what would it matter? Books are a medium of the past. They are never going to be culturally relevant to the degree they were relevant a hundred or two hundred years ago. No book is going to launch a new tolstoyan movement, no soldiers will be reading any books of poetry to remain sane in the trenches of the wars of the future, no author will ever possess again the sheer cultural power that Goethe did, no author will have the kind of pull to hold an entire nation together like Dante or Homer did. You are an anomaly of the present clinging to a relic of the past because you thought there was a sort of spiritual kinship between the two of you as unwanted elements in humanity's future.

>> No.23218365

>>23216765
It only takes a couple days away from this place to see how grotesque the vibes are on every board. Just extremely coomery, mean-spirited, inane 'what did he mean by this? >:)' astro-shilling of incalculable scale. I think I've read enough posts written by pornsick mutts to last me a kalpa

>> No.23218371

>>23218352
Who cares? Write for the sake of the writing itself and let history sort the rest out like it was always going to. Sure, things seem grim right now for literature. But we have no idea what the future holds. The important part of philosophizing is always this: how will this idea change my life? My answer? It won't because I won't let it. It only matters insofar as it drives your actions, and it's not going to drive mine.

>> No.23218382

>>23218371
>let history sort the rest out like it was always going to
History does not sort out anything, people do. Literature is not, never was, and never will be a meritocratic field, because its value is entirely in the eye of the beholder and the societal milieu it is situated in.

>> No.23218385

>>23218382
i don't write for pretentious faggots
i write for fellow gooners who appreciate it

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none of my fanfics are updating

>> No.23218401

>>23218316
Well maybe reason or something else can influence them too.
I'm asking if things like religious affiliation, standpoints on things like race, "Higher" politics (Subscription to economic system, an actually concrete political ideology), Moral convictions, etc could be chalked up entirely to practical concerns (whether physical or mental-emotional), with everything else being just window dressing.

>> No.23218402

>>23218382
It was a figure of speech, fren. "Let history sort it out" basically means "let the people who come later decide." The implication is that contemporaries are often startlingly bad at evaluating literature. Many, many definitive authors died unknown and penniless. I believe posterity is better-equipped to evaluate literature via hindsight. Future people won't care about what things are trendy or aren't in 2024. If they're even aware of these trends, they'll read them as context within history books. I just refuse to be demoralized! I'm just gonna keep on writing! I don't give a shit if no one ever knows my name while I'm alive! If I'm being honest, I kind of prefer it that way.

>> No.23218447

>>23218401
Nietzche talked about that and I wondered how much people's beliefs are just a rationalization of very base desires, emotions and expedient solutions to problems.

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>>23218352
This reminds me of a single off-hand comment that Schopenhauer once made in his essays. He said that it's a shame humanity erects buildings which are bound to collapse in 50-100 years, and that all our buildings should be constructed of extremely durable rock designed to last for centuries.

This unintentionally reveals something about the mind of the philosopher, or the saint, or the artist. They want to believe they're taking part in something eternal, in making a monument to all-of-time. The irony is that this just isn't possible, it doesn't make sense. Goethe's generation aspired to do exactly this, and look how that turned out. All these 19th century men were highly intelligent, speaking from the heart, hoping to write eternal works, and yet only a handful survive (ex. Goethe and Nietzsche), in a very stripped down and paltry form. Before long, even they will be forgotten. The fact is that Ecclesiastes was wrong. From generation to generation, everything about mankind changes -- what survives are only banal platitudes and aphorisms that are so vague they can mean anything. Even the one book that was intended to stand for all time -- the Bible -- is now obsolete. Nothing lasts. If you want to see the true face of reality, take a few deep breaths and go look in a mirror. That's the only reality. Books are an illusion, they can corrupt you -- we've known this since Plato.

Ancient monuments must be repaired every few decades. Get it? Nature herself is trying to make us forget all this old shit, to live for right now and forget the past. A fallen tree rapidly decays, but a piece of paper will last for centuries, which is a terrible accident. There's only the present.

>> No.23218467

>>23218401
the entire point of an ideology is to subjugate those who follow it to adopt a way of being that benefits the people in charge of it / who created it, monarchy supports the aristocracy, theology supports the clergy, capitalism supports the merchant, republic supports the politicians and none of those system give a single fuck about you past appearances
their only goal is to get you to agree to their system and to waste your life in service to that system to keep it going, this same thing is true with every other damn ideology and religion there is, max stirner said it better than nietzsche and his solution of personal anarchy is way more sound than being a moron that devotes his life to thinly veiled servitude because the platitudes they spout sounded nice

>> No.23218471

>>23218467
This is a post from someone that is as dumb as a brick and still tweenie bopper I hate daddy-pilled.

>> No.23218475

>>23218401
You're still far too naive if you think reason isn't the handmaiden of things like innate tastes or pragmatic, cynical interests, but rather that it is this autonomous thing that exists in a vacuum.

Or as Hume said,
>We speak not strictly and philosophically when we talk of the combat of passion and of reason. Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them

>> No.23218477

>>23218471
fair counter point, how about you read max stirner next time before puking your two cents on the post like a stray cat

>> No.23218482

>life is so shit that you cannot justify existence with just reason to a satisfiable point that would allow one to continue living without supplementing the meaning to that life with indulging in passions
pretty much, you would have to be in ataraxia 24/7 to live a life of reason devoid of passion and petty emotions

>> No.23218500

>>23218467
This is why sociology-based analysis of ideology is the only valid tool of examining political phenomena, and why people who think ideologies themselves have any power are retarded. Voltaire didn't cause the French revolution, Voltaire just expressed what the bourgeoisie already thought about the aristocracy and the clergy. No revolution was ever caused because people read too much Marx or Diderot and got "redpilled" but rather the people whose interests laid with revolution used Marx and Diderot as a smokescreen for their cynical interests.

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I'm getting married :)

>> No.23218510

>>23218500
are you saying people don't actually care what system they have as long as they can use it for opportunistic advancement of their own position in life and the retards that actually believe in the system despite being the under class in it tend to be really really fucking dumb and naive?

>> No.23218523

it's almost like having strong belief in any kind of ideology that limits you is a retard check and even the ones that advocate for systems only do so because those systems keep them in power / allow them to rise to power

>> No.23218535

>>23218501
congrats :)

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Feels like the america of my childhood is gone. If you guys had kids, where would you raise them?

>> No.23218546

iceland or something, there's no place in the west you can safely raise a kid outside of a gated community and that's about to change

>> No.23218550

>>23218510
I feel like that makes it sound too conscious a thing. It's not like you sit down and start browsing wikipedia which philosopher fits your interests the best and choose things that way, but rather your lot in life influences your perception of the world and that perception is influenced in such a way that people who align with your interests will be the ones who speak to you the best and make the most sense while those on the other end sound like retards to you. You will probably feel like you were guided by your sense of reason, but unless you're the self-critical type you would probably not feel suspicious at all of what it was that guided your sense of reason in turn.

>> No.23218556

>>23218477
Those who follow ideologies do so out of self interest. A leader or ideologue can suggest something out of self interest with concessions to various groups of people for the purpose of gaining enough support to make it reality. An egoist and a normal ideologue will behave no differently, in effect. For example, I don't give a rats ass who invented what ideology, or if it will benefit someone else 11.3% more than it benefits me; all you have is the exact same egoistic push for the same general things, only you keep on an air of adolescent smugness like you're any different from the rest of the plebeians. You never developed past childhood.

>> No.23218557

>>23216208
Dear Diary Desu:
Today I got scared when I was in the bathroom and saw my feces came out pitch-black, fearing it was the symptom of some illness.
Then I remembered, to my relief, the cause of this queer deposition; namely, that I previously had rice with squid ink for lunch.

>> No.23218564

>>23218550
i liked philosophy after i heard the story of diogenes pissing on a dude for calling him a dog and the idea of philosophy and history stuck with me since, i wanted to know more about philosophy and i regret ever opening a philosophy book but now i'm stuck with it
the retards are truly the only ones that can enjoy living in the world, the people whose way of life fit them like a glove and they never even bothered to question it, to be so completely immersed and believing in the system that surrounds them that they do not even feel the symptoms of living in a unsustainable police state dystopia
>>23218556
>there is no difference between unconscious effort and conscious effort
for you

>> No.23218567

My grandma just gave me 20€ and I'm gonna spend it on books. Recommendations?

>> No.23218569

>>23218564
>there is no difference between unconscious effort and conscious effort
>for you
You are beyond retarded. How did you get through Stirner with reading comprehension that low.

>> No.23218577

>>23218569
stirner is a light read wtf are you talking about, unless you think he is a completely unhinged sociopath you can read between the lines are digest that he's intentionally making everything sound over the top to get the point across
how the fuck do you consider that book to be a hard read, he's literally screaming in your ear and spelling it out on why every ideology and dogma is fucking retarded with examples and everything
are you perhaps mentally retarded but well read fart sniffer?

>> No.23218583

>>23218577
Holy fuck dude LMAO
Your reading comprehension was too low for my post too. You have to baiting right now. I refuse to believe this is real.

>> No.23218586

>>23218577
>How did you get through Stirner with reading comprehension that low.
Doesn't mean Stirner is hard, it means you're too retarded to understand an internet post, so you should definitely be too retarded to read a book. As it turns out, it seems to be true.

>> No.23218587

>>23218467
No, that's an even more pedestrian understanding than mine, to be honest. And not even what I was talking about. I was talking about the motivations of deeply held beliefs.
>>23218475
One can hope. But I will admit it is a decent predictive model.
However, many people don't realize this. There's also things like deeply held dogma's coming from childhood, which often don't have a proper motivation, how do you explain these?
>>23218500
Revolution is a very complex phenomenon I don't think anyone has bothered to properly taxonomize, but I disagree with your assesment, revolutionary Vanguards congregate around ideology and come from all walks of life.
>>23218523
Some people like that do exist. But you are being simplistic. Your monodimensional analysis has already been repeated like thrice now. You clearly have not read Lenin if you think of him as cynic.
True amoral cynics are extremely rare.

>> No.23218591

>>23218587
>motivations of deeply held beliefs
it's called nostalgia and the retards last refuge, dealers choice on what you want to call that
>you've not read lenin
i had the pleasure of reading stirner before him and saw no reason to indoctrinate myself with communism after i've already scrapped every ideology as inherently subjugating

>> No.23218605

>>23218591
>it's called nostalgia and the retards last refuge, dealers choice on what you want to call that
As good an explanation as any.
>i had the pleasure of reading stirner before him and saw no reason to indoctrinate myself with communism after i've already scrapped every ideology as inherently subjugating
You can read things without internalizing them. My point was that Lenin very clearly believed in what he was talking about, you just have to read his writings and study his actions. I'd argue even Stalin was being driven by his morals as much as he was by mere self-interest. Pure self interest is only found among people like african dictators who act like tribal warlords.
P.S: You are consigning yourself to mental poverty by just reading stirner and never moving away from that.

>> No.23218614

>>23218605
i've also read leo tolstoi which was the final nail in the coffin of religion as a cope and also which rang way too true on the intellectual and why people write shit in the first place for me to ignore, i don't read philosophy anymore and it killed any interest i had in being an academic busy body peddling books like a cough syrup salesman trying to sell people what they think they want to hear
writing is one of the most disgusting things in the world when you peel away all the veils to the core, if the world would just abandon all ideologies over night and burn all ideological books the world would not have lost a single thing of value

>> No.23218643

>>23218501
Congrats anon, I'm expecting to ask the question in about 2/3 weeks.

>> No.23218658

>>23218557
Same w me after eating beetroot and my shit is blood red

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>>23218079

>> No.23218664

>>23218659
tell that to the romans and greeks, they just saw it the same way straight women see groping and kissing each other

>> No.23218678

>>23218664
They did not. Being the submissive man was always extremely revolting and dishonorable to both Romans and Greeks, and their common words for homosexual were all negative, all usually referring to the submissive male. Being a "femboy" that actually wanted to get dicked would be completely disgraceful. Even Callicles (a staunch faggot) gasped with utter exasperation when Socrates backed him into a corner saying:
>SOCRATES: But what if the itching is not confined to the head? Shall I pursue the question? And here, Callicles, I would have you consider how you would reply if consequences are pressed upon you, especially if in the last resort you are asked, whether the life of a catamite is not terrible, foul, miserable? Or would you venture to say, that they too are happy, if they only get enough of what they want?

>CALLICLES: Are you not ashamed, Socrates, of introducing such topics into the argument?
Because even an infamous hedonist and obvious bussy slammer could only "for the sake of consistency" say that gaining pleasure from being a catamite is the same as gaining pleasure from something like eating.

In other words, fuck bussy = le GOOD
Get fucked = le BAD
For any given historical culture (even the Japs looked down on the Samurai squire boys as being lesser and less noble)

>> No.23218685

>>23218678
the hypocrisy of bottoming not being okay but fucking ass being okay is well known, pretty sure romans only saw it as scandalous if two men of the same rank / status fucked each other because that implied that they were both fouling their standing and gay love is yuck unless it's heroic camaraderie type

>> No.23218689

>>23218664
>>23218678
The "homosexual" militaries of certain Greek states were not to engage in sexual acts with one another because:
>But the men of Lacedaemon, holding that "if a man but lay his hand upon the body and for lustful purpose, he shall thereby forfeit claim to what is beautiful and noble"
Again, it can't really be compared to modern day faggotry.

>> No.23218693

>>23217537
it was a joke. I had coke bottle glasses as a kid even and excelled in literature.

>> No.23218694

>>23218689
that might be a fanciful way of saying "don't rape your fellow soldiers in long campaigns you horny faggots"

>> No.23218711

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP7OfxBppqg
After watching this I had a dream I was in prison and one of the black guys in this doc stabbed me in the eye with a heroin needle.

Doc is very nasty but gives insight into what happens with prison rape.
It ends on an insane note with Matt and how he got turned. Brutal.

>> No.23218713

>>23218694
The whole passage was essentially a speech bashing lust and promiscuity, and it's in line with Socrates' and Plato's general disapproval of non-procreative sex acts. (That quote comes from Xenophon writing what Socrates said)

>> No.23218720

>>23218713
i can understand bashing promiscuity but i don't really see the difference between an amish having 10 kids because condoms bad and some faggots buggering it out without making unsustainable amount of kids
lust is lust and unless you're one of the few asexual people or have very low libido you will most likely experience and just cope with it by jerking off or something, not really sure how you can bash lust by itself without sounding like a boomer prune

>> No.23218723

Honor the ballsack will ALWAYS be funny

>> No.23218728

>>23218643
Good luck! I hope she says yes.

>> No.23218732

>>23218689
Idk if you should be using the Spartans as an example of being super straight, anon. It's hard to get a handle on a lot of the particulars of sexuality in any era, but Greek states generally use gayness as a pejorative against other states where gay is just shit that's uncool to do and why aren't you wearing a flag pin do you hate your country?

Submissive acts in general are a form of humiliation, and most of the publicly known ones are known because the purpose was to make the humiliation known. But taking all such things as gay, when most of the public ones are forced punishment, also ignores that submissive acts between a man and woman were a form of humiliation. Men performing any kind of oral sex on any gender was so gay you could lose citizenship. Women being on top was as gay as if you let another dude ride you sideways.

What's more, because they had no internet, a lot of public sex depictions are the gayest things artists could come up with. Murals of perverted sex acts are really common across the classical world because it's seen as hilarious and absurd like cake sitting or fart gasmasks. Theatre plays about how you're really gay because you have expensive home goods and love your wife, you Persian sex fiend, are common too, because they're used to educate people to hate certain behaviours like how nobody asks you about Huey Lewis and the News post American Psycho because it signals a kind of barely repressed psychopathic homolust and dysfunction.

However, offering to fuck someone in the mouth or ass isn't seen as a two way humiliation by most classical authors. The person on top and penetrating anything is not gay for fucking boypussy, but if the person on top is female, the person on bottom is even more gay than if they were getting raped by a dude, for most classical societies. The bottom is still gay and kind of trans if it's with a male, but you're not in any way less gay because you got topped by a female in that paradigm either.

>> No.23218733

My whole personality is purely theoretical. It's not real, it's the way it is because that's what I think is the optimal version of myself, but could change it any time.

>> No.23218741

>>23216208
I've come to find that the best way to keep slaves is ironically to brutalize them as hard as possible in a sustained and deliberate manner.

>> No.23218747

>>23218741
The helots only rebelled like, once, at best.

>> No.23218760

>>23218741
Early Greeks treated their slaves good, even helped them in the work when they had time. When a guest came into the house, the slave would sit and listen too.

>> No.23218770

>>23218760
There was still a lot of slave rape.

>> No.23218772

>>23218741
even "the prince" book would tell you that that is a retarded way to go about it, if you need to brutalize your subjects you need to do it in a short a effective burst, tyrants get deposed and rome had constant slave revolts and the decimated legions would only be loyal for as long as there was a general they could respect or rome wasn't too busy with other shit
it is much more effective to have stockholm syndrome slaves than it is to have bitter slaves liable to slit your throat the first chance they get because you made their life a living hell, the loyal to death glorified butler is a better alternative
who knew that carrot of the illusion of increased privileges works better than beating people with a stick, even in america the house negroes were much more obedient than the whipped field slaves

>> No.23218781

>>23218770
There's a lot of Roman slave contracts where if you tried to rape the slave, the slave was automatically free.

>> No.23218784

>>23218781
in rome there was also a chance to earn your freedom with x amount of years of service, slaves that got into good households would ask to be employed there though because their quality of life was still sadly better than a free man in rome without citizenship

>> No.23218801

>>23218770
No there wasn't, but enough about your coomer fantasies

>> No.23218807

>>23216208
How you guys doing today? Anything fun or bad happen today?

Just caught a stray when my dad was in a bad mood. Really ruined my whole mood after an already long ass day

>> No.23218808

>>23218801
There was enough that Aristophanes wrote a play that featured references to it.

>> No.23218809

>>23218807
Bid on a house was accepted today. I'm over the moon

>> No.23218813

>>23218808
we have sexual slavery in the west to this day, they just learned to keep them away from publics eyes

>> No.23218814

>>23218809
Good shit mate

How was the house buying process like? Have no idea how it works

>> No.23218817

>>23218808
Aristophanes was a comedian
It's just plain bullshit, maybe it became the case in later decadent Greek society but in the early days, slaves were treated good, and raping them of having sex with them didn't even come to mind to the masters

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>>23218770
I wonder how many just fucked their slaves for fun every day. Or order them to give bjs. Could a slave object to this at all?

>> No.23218828

>>23218817
Wouldnt it also depend on the slave? A tutor could be valuable. A housemaid might be more disposable.

>> No.23218831

>>23218817
either that or it was so common historians didn't even bother to write about it, if someone is your property and they happen to be hot you would most likely just rape them like a horny teenager

>> No.23218840

>>23218772
>even "the prince" book would tell you that that is a retarded way to go about it, if you need to brutalize your subjects
Who said anything about subjects? I meant slaves. Which implies it's a widespread practice, practiced by society at large.
>Rome had constant slave revolts
After the servile wars which resulted in harsher treatment for slaves, there was not one singificant slave uprising in Ancient rome.
>the decimated legions would only be loyal for as long as there was a general they could respect or rome wasn't too busy with other shit
not a slave revolt, and also your statement defeats itself.
>it is to have bitter slaves liable to slit your throat the first chance they get because you made their life a living hell
I was talking about field slaves, mostly.

>> No.23218845

>>23217035
>I love flat-chested girls. There is no possible way to admit that to people without getting accused of being a pedophile, though.
first world problems

>> No.23218846

>>23217829
example?

>> No.23218847

>>23218840
if people already in higher standing who have people to spit / look down on won't take that kind of shit without revolting then why would slaves?
>unarmed and uneducated
didn't stop the peasants
>i'm talking about field slaves
you think beating them up will make them work faster, you're damaging your own property and breeding resentment for the first populist to come larp as a liberator to use them as cannon fodder to overthrow you and take your stuff

>> No.23218852

>>23218828
It just didn't come to mind to the master, much like a kid doesn't think about stealing before being told about what stealing is.
>>23218831
No it didn't happen. The slaves were slaves because they thought it was their nature to be slaves. They never thought to themselves: 'what if I was a master'. They accepted their masters much like a child accepts it's parents. Everyone did all day what he thought was good and his duty without thinking much about it. Evil did not exist.

>> No.23218856

>>23217829
istfg
the worst is when you can tell foreword writer doesn't even like the book and/or is trying to >inb4 himself before all leftards begin to attack him for the "outdated" shit in the book

>>23218846
i remember one edition of moby dick being pretty much written by a faggot

>> No.23218861

>>23218852
oh well time enough wasted on a bait

>> No.23218867

>>23217812
I am sorry about it anon
You never deserved anything as horrific as that happening to you
Please take care. May god give you strength anon

>> No.23218874

It’s been pretty depressing to realize that woke shit could be Spengler’s inevitable philosophy of the Western elite that we could be about to live through several centuries of rule by woke corporate hucksters…

If that were the case, it would be the worst civilization in history.

>> No.23218877

Aight, time to sow some garlic.

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23218892

I just spent thirty minutes fishing shit out of my butthole with my fingers because I was really constipated. My fingers were covered in smelly brown shit with nuggets of corn. I just thought you should all know that.

>> No.23218894

>>23218874
Worst civilization? Didn't Spengler explicitly clarify that civilization and culture are irreconcilable opposites? Culture is the creative phase, civilization is the destructive phase of the cycle. It feels like the problem lies with you thinking that a civilization should work like a culture does when Spengler says that we are almost a thousand years too late to actually be capable of creation.

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23218902

>incapable of creation
you've either eaten the russian porridge or just haven't kept up with technological progress in the west
>what about the arts
still there, just more modern variants due to increased access to creative tools that make the progress easier and the tastes of the time leaning away from classical music and naked statues

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23218906

>>23218741
*blocks you're path*

>> No.23218905

Honor the ballsack has the same energy as out-pizza the hit and I will DIE on that hill

>> No.23218915

>>23218894
They’re not opposites. A culture’s natural life includes the morphing into a civilization. Civilization is not destructive. The civilization merely contains certain possibilities other than those possibilities contained within the preceding culture. Great art can never be made but great politics can be undertaken, for example. And none of this is predetermined. Both cultures and civilizations are seeded by something ineffable and in some sense their natural development is predetermined but the specifics are directed by the people. That Germany would become a dictatorial socialist state was inevitable but that it would choose National Socialism rather than the Prussian socialism he preferred was not inevitable.

>> No.23218919

Women often do not pay enough attention to working the balls during blowjobs.

>> No.23218932

What was the best part of Spengler's book? The math part was fairly interesting but I want to get to the real meat of his theory

>> No.23218934

It feels disingenuous when people who criticize the enlightenment are stereotyped as people who think "reason exists but I don't like it where it points to" rather than shown to be people who consider the idea of autonomous reason to be ludicrous at best or a malicious lie at worst. It has the same energy to it as when people who disagree with some liberal policy are stereotyped as never hearing about or not understanding the liberal arguments for that policy, or simply "being afraid" of the new policy rather than being shown as people who considered that policy and disagreed with it for various reasons.

>> No.23218943

i'm dissatisfied with my current job but the idea of applying to new jobs stresses me out. how the hell does anyone get a new job?

>> No.23218947

>>23218934
Reason is sort of like a gun. Usually it's best to leave it tucked away until we need it.

>> No.23218953

>>23218919
why don't you say something

>> No.23218961

>>23218953
ligma

>> No.23218969

>>23218961
What

>> No.23218982

That art isn't meritocratic is practically a commonplace idea, but people rarely consider that philosophy isn't a meritocratic field, either, not the slightest bit. Philosophers aren't decisively "debunked", they don't become links in a chain of ever-clearer dialogue on ideas, their popularity just dies. Think of poor Leibniz falling into a centuries-long oblivion not because anyone bothered to write a gigantic rebuttal to monadology but because a smug frenchman wrote "if world best why earthquake happen".

>> No.23218984

>>23218847
>without revolting then why would slaves?
No power, atomized, constantly terrorized without recourse.
>you think beating them up will make them work faster,
No, I think it will make them docile. Which it does if you do it hard enough and break them.
>you're damaging your own property
One whips cattle, too.
>and breeding resentmen
Nigger, they're slaves, they dislike you on the default.
>the first populist to come larp as a liberator to use them as cannon fodder to overthrow you and take your stuff
Doesn't happen very often historically, funnily enough.
>>23218906
Not a slave and not mistreated hard enough.

>> No.23218985

would love to send every job recruiter into the core of the earth

>> No.23219002

>>23218984
Look out guys, we have an edgelord here who doesn’t realize people are more motivated to do their job when they benefit

>> No.23219005

>>23218953
I have, but it is an awkward thing to say

>> No.23219008

>>23218902
"Better tools, easier progress" and you're using it to make a portrait of sexy Squidward

>> No.23219012

>>23219008
are tools not there just to let the artist put on the canvas what he envisioned, puritanism is the death groan of a hack artist that relies on novelty just as much as the person who types an AI prompt, it's this part that infuriates them because their efforts for their craft can be so easily by passed
but to me it is the same as insisting on only sculpting or painting with water paints

>> No.23219015

>>23218874
Not necessarily corporate or hucksters, but definitely woke. Although with the way Ethical socialism goes I could readily see the self-actualization of wills turning into a race to the bottom of insanity and depravity with Transhumanism, Abolition of death, Bestiality, and Incest (Along with struggles as of yet invisible to us) being next.
The point of early Caesarism is about the transition from the politics of money to the politics of force, demogogues and despots. Part of that is the erosion of democratic norms (Underway in the U.S since at least 70s).

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23219017

I have long hair, and when I shave I worry it makes me look like a chick.
I've had multiple bad dreams over time where I look in the mirror and I have a pretty chick's face and freak out.
Does that make me a tranny? Or does the fact I'm freaked out by it prove I'm not?

>> No.23219024

>>23219002
I'm not talking about productivity, I'm talking about compliance.
If you really need productivity just work your slaves to death and buy more like in French Saint Domingue.
>InB4 buh muh slave revolt
Didn't happen the way you think it did, Robespierre freed them and Napoleon tried to Re-enslave them.

>> No.23219025

>>23219017
it means you're having dreams about being a chick and freaking out about it, might just mean you're gay, might mean you're a tranny, might mean that you don't want to be perceived as girly

>> No.23219032

>>23219012
I've yet to see any AI art that has risen beyond the level of memes. If anything it has revealed the absolute poverty of what most can "envision." The only reason people view any of this shit as interesting is the novelty of the process.

>> No.23219034

>>23218932
The parts about math, law, and the world-pictures (religion, nature, history). I think the latter is key to understanding the whole book to be honest.

>> No.23219035

>>23219032
the horse wagon is here to stay

>> No.23219038

>>23218934
Well think about the way a worldview that’s predicated on reason and yet is reasonable affirms itself. It lies. It must lie. It’s very nature is deception.

>> No.23219043

>>23219035
The grand irony of AI and automation is that the fantasy has always been liberating people from mundane work so they could pursue more creative endeavors. Now they can't make a robot that folds laundry but are well on the way to automating the arts. Misplaced priorities.

>> No.23219052

>>23219043
the only thing the automation, AI and worker bots are going to bring to the western world introducing mass unemployment and blowing up the recruitment numbers for organized crime
that and of course freeing the venture capitalists into being independent from workers and learning why consumer based economy doesn't work when no one can afford your products en masse

>> No.23219088

I'm going to do steroids because I'm bored.

>> No.23219125

>>23216208
I do not believe in double standards, I do not believe in hypocrisy. Just because I despise someone for doing something does not mean I despise myself for doing it. I am unironically better than everybody else and the only one that can judge me is me. I'm beginning to believe that I'm better than God and, despite being a hardcore pre-vatican II Catholic, all I can think about both while awake and in my dreams is how to usurp God and become God myself. If anyone else said this to me I'd hold nothing but contempt for him for being a disgusting, cringe heretic, but as I mentioned, I don't believe in double standards and I don't believe in hypocrisy. I'm better than you, I'm better than everyone. I'm a God in all but name.
>>23219088
Don't do it. It'll quite unironically send you insane, especially if you're young. You don't want what you'll do on roids on your conscious.

>> No.23219126

>>23218163
>parenting board
god damn anon, can you imagine? You post
>hey my son got these little red marks on his thigh. Are these just mosquito bites or should we be worried?
And the replies are
>SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>more?
>kik? discord? telegram?
>UOHHHH CHILD BOY SO EROTIC

I wouldn't want to be there ya know.

>> No.23219150

>>23219126
Yeah I know, you might have to have stricter rules in regards to that board.
It won't happen but I would be interested in an anons perspective on child care. As opposed to some lame mommyblog or gay reddit 'dad' thread

>> No.23219154

>>23219125
>despite being a hardcore pre-vatican II Catholic, all I can think about both while awake and in my dreams is how to usurp God and become God myself
Based on everything I know about "trad cath" types I'd say you're not alone in this

>> No.23219166

>>23219154
Yeah but Trad Cath is a retarded, undermining term used to describe retard Catholics. For everyone here, Jesus was a Catholic and every "Jew" before him was a Catholic. The Roman Church is Israel, Catholics are the chosen people, if you don't have nothing but hate for any other religion, especially "Judaism" and Islam, you're not Catholic.

>> No.23219183

I think God has forgiven me. This is a gift no one else could have given me. I don't know if she has forgiven me, but I know I shouldn't ask.

>> No.23219192

>>23219154
>>23219166
Actual trad Catholic here, these people are just appropriating cultures they won't get called racist for, you might as well trust the guy on the internet in the 2000s saying he's a samurai

>> No.23219206

>mentally ill person
>has romantic person
you're not mentally ill

>> No.23219209

>>23219192
I can't fathom what you meant by that, but it probably wasn't very smart.

>> No.23219225

My hair is greying on the sides, like Dr. Strange. It's kinda cool. Do girls like that?

>> No.23219229

>>23219225
Grey hair can look cool.
For me, the norwood reaper came shortly after so watch out

>> No.23219232

>>23218784
>slaves that got into good households would ask to be employed there though because their quality of life was still sadly better than a free man in rome without citizenship
That's partially because being sponsored by your old master was an easy way of gaining citizenship. If you had skills which could be sold, you could also just get someone else in your new profession to sponsor you. Citizenship has a lot of political problems associated with it too so a lot didn't mind it, and things like non citizens buying votes or not becoming a citizen because owning land is a tax headache happen too, even with people who were never slaves. But a lot of contracts with end dates in practice were more like
>Opportunities for promotion!
than any kind of guaranteed retirement

>> No.23219255

>>23219209
not him but if you dont get his post that is on you

>> No.23219273

>>23219255
There's nothing to get. I, despite believing it, literally said a text-book anti Semitic slew of shit about how Catholics are the real jews and he claimed I was trying to not be called racist. It was absurd and unfathomable.

>> No.23219282

>>23219183
What did you do?

>> No.23219292

>>23219273
Anon's saying your trad Catholic larp looks like an autistic weeb's samurai larp, probably because trad Caths pray for jews still

>> No.23219303

>>23219292
Nah I got the samurai bit, but I'm not a "trad Cath", I'm a Catholic who considers Vatican II an absolute cacophony of heresy and Saint Peters Chair to be empty and it just so happens that spastics on the internet are fond of calling themselves trad caths despite not being one in any regard

>> No.23219318

>>23219303
>I don't know what trad Cath means
It's all preV2 proponents. Being a sedevacantist doesn't preclude you from being trad. Not knowing the basics of mass before or after V2 does preclude you from being any kind of Catholic though, including a sedevacantist.

>> No.23219323

My great-grand father never went to school, but he knew how to clear a forest, he knew how to plow the earth with oxens, he knew how to make a wheel and a wagon, he knew how to make a basement, he knew how to make a house wall, he knew how to make a roof, he knew how to make a road, he knew how to make a stable, he knew how to make a wheat storage, he knew how to make dry meat, he knew how to assist in childbirth, he knew how to ride a horse, he knew how to hunt, he knew how to wrestle against a wolf.
Do I truly have more of an education than him? I don't think so.

>> No.23219336

>>23219323
Sounds like at some time someone in your family screwed up by not passing on that wisdom.

>> No.23219346

>>23219318
I'm not really explaining myself properly because I'm tired af, but I completely understand what a Traditional Catholic is, and that I am one. I dislike the term "Trad Cath" however because it's used by hillbilly protestants raised in filth and pigswine to undermine anybody that rejects Vatican II (no doubt due to some Judaic Psyop brought about by your "Judeo-Christian" Culture) and makes the insinuation that they're similar to idiot fans that parade the idea of being a "Trad Cath" online because it gives them some heightened superiority. I don't give a fuck that he called me a larper because he's no doubt a repressed homosexual who thinks himself smart. And you and all the others (if they ain't you) that are talking shit about Traditional Catholics being "Jew Lovers" are, in the most fundamental truth possible, Jewish Sleeper Agents raised in the aforementioned pigswine melting pot that is American Culture.
Actually try to challenge one of the points I made in >>23219166 because I meant and believe in every single one of them or suck a dick, I couldn't really care and at the end of the day, it's your soul that's compromised, not mine.

>> No.23219349

>>23219336
Well, he had a farm and five sons. Four of the sons went abroad, two studied, one became a lawyer and the other one a doctor, my grand-father and his brother became bootstrap millionaires. One of the sons was supposed to inherit the farm.

>> No.23219360

>>23219346
>Dude bro trust me my larp is really good
Uhhuh, sorry to hear about your protestant upbringing and larping your way into an Anabaptism, but fanfiction is banned on this board because it's always low quality nonsense.

>> No.23219454

The best and worst part of a short story competition in a lrg university is tat, alongwith with international writers, literally every person you knw from workshops and classes has applied. And I've just brn tipped off in secret by my english professor (who is administrating not judging the contest) that my stry has already ben adjudged the winner of my category and will compete now for the final top prize. The announcement will beon thursday apparently.

Cannot wait to rub my achievement in thw faces of all thpse feminist cunts and male-feminist bitches and Pakistani jews in my workshops who hated on my work for reasons that were clearly beyond what wss on thr page

>inb4 some gay fuck tries to be big brain and say that I won because they knew who i was
it was anonymous, you dumb motherfucker. plus the panel was all international writers

>inb4 some pedantic cuck says that well you must be retarded if you don't think judges can tell the ethnicity and gender and politics of the writer
first finish jacking off to your 4k furry tranny porn abd then reply to me

>inb4 some bitch say those whores in my workshop were right and mt work actually isn't good
fuck off nigger, i won

>inb4 some faggot comes and says I'm wasting time witg short story contests
sure nigger, tell that to the agents waiting in my inbox

damn feels so fucking good bros

>> No.23219513

new
>>23219510

>> No.23219516

So I got marriage-pilled. Hook -up culture is worthless, casual sex is worthless, the only real thing is to find true love and marry the woman.
> muh all women are hoes
If you select for hoes that all you are ever going to get is hoes. That's precisely what pick up artistry teaches you, to select for hoes. There's other ways of selecting for women and not all of them are hoes.
But how am I supposed to get married? As soon as she meets my parents she is going to reject me or her parents meeting my parents will reject me. They are divorced.

>> No.23219520

>>23219516
>Hook -up culture is worthless, casual sex is worthless, the only real thing is to find true love and marry the woman.
thanks chad

>> No.23219619

I’m going to kill myself if I don’t escape this meaningless effeminate lifestyle soon. I cannot live my whole life this way…

>> No.23219624

see you tomorrow

>> No.23219631

>>23219624
anon… you don't know where I live

>> No.23219652

you are in my heart, always forever

>> No.23219654

>>23219652
stop lying

>> No.23219896

>>23219034
Late reply but thanks

>> No.23220387

>>23219513
>>23219513
Why was this deleted?

>> No.23220407

>>23220387
Posts were becoming too relevant to literature. Coomer whining only please.

>> No.23220411

o janny, u so silly

>> No.23220419

>thread is called "write what's on your mind"
>should be called "write what's not on the janny's mind"
makes you think

>> No.23220422

new >>23220421
>>23220421
>>23220421

>> No.23220436

>>23220422

>>23220429
>>23220433
fucker's going to get the new thread 404d