/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23191271]

What are we reading today, /lit/?

[Anonymous No.23191285]

>ywn fuck around with tarot cards telling wild stories with Calvino
I didn't expect a little book to hit so hard.

[Anonymous No.23191336]

>>23191271
One of the few things by Calvino which I have not read. Always alludes me.

[Anonymous No.23191342]

>>23191271
>>23191336
Bad taste in books and alcohol.

[Anonymous No.23191363]

>>23191336
It's very light and playful, he's a master of reading the cards and far removed from what the public perception and method is like. It's also two 50 page novellas, so it isn't long.

>>23191342
It's reading beer, not drinking beer.

[Anonymous No.23191470]

>>23191271
The Stranger
I was expecting it to be as shit as Nausea but it's actually significantly better

[Anonymous No.23191474]

>>23191271
Blue corduroy trousers!!
Are cords back in style?

Reading The Master and Margarita and Dip into some Hazlitt.

[Anonymous No.23191489]

>>23191474
>Blue corduroy trousers!!
>Are cords back in style?
Cords have been in for a few years, anon. Get with it!

[Anonymous No.23191500]

This. Why does Mr. Julius Caesar refer to himself in the third person? Was he autistic?

[Anonymous No.23191507]

>>23191470
Why were you assuming Sartre and Camus are the same?

[Anonymous No.23191509]

>>23191342
Beer store close to me primarily sells local beers and the local beers are all loaded with hops, I am sick of everything tasting like hops. An hour round trip to get to a liquor store with decent selection of beers not loaded with hops. But I like Nordeast. Making of Americans is pretty great so far, loving it.
>>23191363
Yeah, I know what it is, just have yet to get a copy.

[Anonymous No.23191514]

>>23191500
BASED GREDOS ENJOYER

[Anonymous No.23191515]

>>23191489
Right
Gen Xer, boomer tier, admittedly.

[Anonymous No.23191517]

>>23191509
The contents and premise of a book have put me off before, often for years or entirely. You can never be too sure what keeps someone away.

[Anonymous No.23191519]

>>23191507
idk I had heard the books compared frequently

[Anonymous No.23191522]

This is the third time giant women have been mentioned. Anon in the other thread is going to have a field day.

[Anonymous No.23191687]

>>23191271

[Anonymous No.23191720]

>>23191500
I mean, if you're Julius Caesar, why wouldn't you?

I'm reading an old Review of Contemporary Fiction that I finally managed to grab from the Internet Archive. Many pieces on Alexander Theroux, who is the focus of the first half of the issue. Enjoying it very much. If anyone wants a pdf, feel free to ask.

[Anonymous No.23191936]

One down, Ulysses seems a fine read on such a day as this. I worry I'm in such a fit state as to find it so clear.

[Anonymous No.23191954]

>>23191936
clip your fucking fingernails you slob. I pray you are a left handed classical guitarist.

[Anonymous No.23191978]

>>23191954
I play right handed but need that shit for picking up fiddly little things and holding the frets down to tie them tight. The rest are trim. Leave a man to his crafts and muses.

[Anonymous No.23191985]

>>23191271
>>23191336
>>23191936
Reminder, beer has 300 calories per can. It makes you obese. Alcohol clouds the mind and destroys the brain.

[Anonymous No.23192011]

>>23191336
Is that the abridged version or what? I really enjoyed that book by the way. Stein is everything fatass William Gass wishes he was as a prose stylist.

[Anonymous No.23192018]

>>23191985
>beer makes you obese
Over the past few years, I've averaged a beer a day. I am far from obese. I normally drink two per day. This is basically a myth. What makes you obese is binge drinking, just like binge eating makes you obese. The guys you see getting beer guts, they drink close to a six-pack per day. Two beers a day, and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.23192027]

>>23191978
Ok, I'll allow it.

[Anonymous No.23192028]

>>23191336
Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.23192033]

>>23191687
Suck start a shotgun

[Anonymous No.23192039]

>>23191522
SEXOOOO

[Anonymous No.23192045]

>>23191522
WOMAN'S FINGERNAIL SPOTTED

I WISH YOU WERE GIANT AND BOTH SAT AND STEPPED ON ME

[Anonymous No.23192056]

>>23191954
That thumbnail would be just about useless for classical, would severely limit technique, shaped all wrong.
>>23192011
It is the full 900 odd page version, first restored edition from 66. Gass has more in common with James than Stein but he has his own voice and is quite good. He did love Stein, will hunt down and read his essay after I finish it.

[Anonymous No.23192067]

>>23191271
The Invisible History of the Rosicrucians by Tobias Churton

[Anonymous No.23192110]

>>23192056
I used to run about a 30 degree slant when I was ass deep in the repertoire. Then I found out lutes are more fun. Not better, just more fun.

[Anonymous No.23192184]

>>23192110
Setar is no more a lute than a guitar is a lute. I probably will build myself a 13 course baroque or archlute eventually but I don't care for the sound of synthetic strings on lute and I can not justify the expense of all that gut so have been dragging my feet on that project. Building a little Lacote right now for a fella and doing stock prep for a guitar for myself, either a 13 string alto or a copy of those funky 11 string Torres guitars. Picrel have been my nonfiction reading this past week.

[Anonymous No.23192202]

>>23191363
Does the entire deck get used?

[Anonymous No.23192205]

>>23192045
lmao

[Anonymous No.23192213]

I'm reading The Darkness that Came Before. I can tell why it's a huge meme on /sffg/ but I'm committed at this point.

[Anonymous No.23192227]

>>23191336
> Stein
> born to Jewish immigrants
Call me crazy, but I’m going to out on a limb and guess that she wasn’t exactly an authority on American anything

[Anonymous No.23192237]

>>23192227
/pol/tards and conservative sorts would love it if they actually read. Seriously.

[Anonymous No.23192256]

>>23192237
Seriously. Even if you’ve never read her, her figure looms large enough in the literary field that one should be familiar with her life

[Anonymous No.23192258]

>>23192256
>i don't read
We know.

[Anonymous No.23192263]

>>23192258
???

[Anonymous No.23192270]

>>23192256
>her figure looms large
You’re only spamming her recently because some middlebrow writer over at truelit, Ryan Ruby, said she was everything hemingway wanted to be

[Anonymous No.23192284]

>>23192184
I will tell you in earnest that it is not gut strings, which do sing differently and much sweeter, that make a lute a lute. Setar is a long neck lute from a different brother, of which I personally believe is closer to electric guitar than the western lute and what came from it and the tar, which informed the precursors to the classical guitar. It's also tuned the same as an appalachian dulcimer, so even with steel strings, it's an old ass european folk instrument through the north, which eventually settled. I think you need to reconsider the lute and what makes it so, I've been down your path and know it well, I'm on the same continuum as the oldest instruments; as well as snakeskin banjos of the steppe and okinawa, which later became the sitar and shamisen.

The lute of Weiss tormented me for many years as I played guitar, some of why I gave it up and went east. That is an instrument all its own. The setar is barely removed from all the other lutes east of the Bosphor, a wholly different older family so removed from the oud. Speaking of mine and mine alone, setar has a thin mulberry soundboard with no bracing and the strings are slack, around the B or G of a guitar for the high string. Gut would not make it any sweeter and good gut is brighter than nylon; they have been adapted to steel for 200 years now.

That is a sexy nice book.

[Anonymous No.23192291]

>>23192270
If you aren’t at least aware of her salon and what it meant to writers and painters, you probably don’t know much about the history of literature. I’ve never read her. Not sure what that other anon was insinuating. That if you don’t read Stein you aren’t a reader? I forgot this is a place where a bunch of people under the age of 40 larp about reading all the major, minor, and hidden gem writers and the thousands of books of at least some renown

[Anonymous No.23192295]

>>23192291
>If you aren’t at least aware of her salon
Yeah, you type with a limp-wrist kek

[Anonymous No.23192324]

>>23192270
Can you please stop shitting up every single thread you come across?

[Anonymous No.23192326]

>>23192263
I missread your post and thought that you were the anon replying to me in the previous. I have spent more than 15 minutes on /lit/ today, it takes its toll.
>>23192270
There are at least 3 anons who have been spamming her in the past month or so and I got to say they are right to shill her.
>>23192284
Your conflating lute generic and lute the instrument of western tradition, these are distinct and it is not semantics. The guitar is a lute in the same way a setar is a lute. I have played a great number of lutes, I know what the difference in sound is between gut and synthetic and I know that if I am not getting that gut sound I would be happier with a 13 string alto or the like which is just a 13 string baroque lute stringing applied to guitar.

Electric guitar descends from the romantic guitar, modern classical from the Spanish guitar. Only thing the setar has in common with electric is metal strings. Setar is not European in the slightest, Persian.

[Anonymous No.23192329]

>>23192324
He’s excited about finding an old meme pic and recycling it. Wait till he finds weak chin side profile kid, or skinny supermarket tattoo guy..maybe he already has and got over his fix of posting them

[Anonymous No.23192340]

>>23191500
He was writing them as dispatches back to Rome, but also knew that they would be published for readers, and also read-aloud for the illiterate, so referring to himself in the 3rd person suited his purposes for both making the commentaries seem more objective as well as making the populace keep hearing his name in a good context.

[Anonymous No.23192346]

>>23192326
>there are at least 3
Nice delusion, homosexual

[Anonymous No.23192353]

currently reading Norwegian Wood by Murakami. Its captivating at times and feels like a guilty pleasure coming of age story, but it feels pretty formulaic at times.

[Anonymous No.23192368]

>>23192326
I have traced the instrument from the blueprints of Enki when the ovens were first lit, across the world and back thrice; seen it on the cliff walls of the zoroastrians next to the vajra 3000 years ago; been back and forth across asia minor on the backs of dromedaries and asses, horses and madmen martyred for carrying it. I have a lute with an extra string or two, slightly updated with modernity along the way, for the sole purpose of art music and mysticism. The hindoos reshaped their veenas after it.

The western lute is a glorious development of the short neck lute into polyphony and sings sweeter than the brash guitar what stole her repertoire from the grave, I agree with you there. It even went to the heights of form with Dowland and Weiss, even featured in the most baroque of Italian operas where they whiled hours between scenes retuning.

You seem to forget that the guitar comes from the tar. In form, and some technique if you want to stretch semantics a little.

Metal. Also why electric guitar is a long neck lute.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOysA2nxA4Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UliXZ6qmDMY

You want rowdy guitar music too? I have that somewhere in my watch history not on guitar that does everything spanish guitar does before it did it. I was never talking about the western lute specifically at any point and no one who isn't retarded thinks that the western lute is the only lute. Now a dutar? I may want some gut or silk strings, that thing goes low.

Look, I formed this thesis over a decade and the sources agree for the most part, it's pretty sound

[Anonymous No.23192373]

>>23192326
Also, there is no generic lute. There are long and short neck lutes. They all came from the same place. Except maybe the chinese ones but that's lost to history.

[Anonymous No.23192382]

I don't get it bros

[Anonymous No.23192473]

>>23192340
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks, anon! So far, I find it a super entertaining read, and the Gauls were quite tough

[Anonymous No.23192580]

>>23192368
>The hindoos reshaped their veenas after it.
They shaped their instruments off of the gourds they grew, lengthening the neck is the most effective way to get lower notes. This instrument design naturally pops up everywhere gourds can be grown and dried and something much like it pops up in those areas where gourds are impractical. The theory that they all descend from the tanbur family is mostly built off of the resemblance of the lute to the oud and the oud being older. There was definite influence but that goes both ways and we lack any viable proof of a source.
>You seem to forget that the guitar comes from the tar.
No, I just did not mention it because of the above and it is pointlessly reductionist.
>I was never talking about the western lute specifically
You said "lutes are more fun" and if you are not talking about the western instrument which goes by that name the guitar is a lute. So what am I supposed to think? You were only excluding guitar from the term "lute?"
>Look, I formed this thesis over a decade
Using outdated popsci tier sources.
>>23192373
I didn't say there was a generic lute, I said "lute generic," as in the generic use of the word. If you have researched this topic at all you would know this distinction, the literature would make no sense without it.

[Anonymous No.23192592]

>>23192368
>>23192580
Wtf is this?

[Anonymous No.23192775]

>>23192592
this is /lute/

[Anonymous No.23193046]

Because I like to feel smart and patriotic. I also look smart when I leave it on the coffee table with a bookmark visibly well into the book. Lets be honest here, these are paramount reasons for everyone here