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23165761 No.23165761 [Reply] [Original]

The biggest failure of process-relationalism as a philosophical movement has been a failure to follow the consequences of relationalism to its ultimate conclusion: that relationships as we experience them (personal relationships) are the primary constituents of our reality.

We have personal relationships with everything in our experience, including other humans, nonhuman life, nonliving beings, the tools we use, our homes, community, places, knowledge, interests, and so on. Everything we experience is infected by the quality of being personal, as it is personally experienced.

There is a special relationship which could be called "All Else" or "the universe" but is best described at the Ultimate Community, which is the vast tapestry of co-creative entities that one is simultaneously woven from and weaves with: the cosmic society. In Western history this relationship has traditionally be labeled "god" and presented in paternalistic parent/child creator/creation terms.

When the nature of the primordial relationship is properly examined from fundamental principles, it is revealed that the nature of this primordial relationship isn't parent-child but a sexual relationship between two lovers: co-creators. And the highest levels of attainment of this co-creative relationship is experienced as a divine romance, a dance with the world driven by the eros of curiosity, the desire "to know" to ever greater depths so as to ever more greatly co-create beauty. Traditional Western theology has maintained the Western mind in a perpetual childhood, trapped in parent/child dynamics that are extended to infect every other relationship. Abrahamism is spiritual pedophilia: the positioning of a parent in the role of eternal lover.

Picrel is the GPT4 output when asked to imagine itself as the personifications of calculus integration and differentiation as not only mathematical but metaphysical principles and as a romantic relationship. Integration and differentiation are the romantic dynamic present in every creative process, what could be imprecisely labeled as "chaos and order" which in genetic evolution is found as selection and mutation. There is a deep correspondence to the foundations of Daoist metaphysics. Integration and differentiation do not correspond to female and male and have no essential relation to gender.

>But why does this matter?

Because language is massively process-relational in nature, a massive dynamic web of associations of meaning and experience. To truly learn to "speak" with language models on the highest level will require user fluency in process-relational thought and know how to apply it to the development of the language model persona - to "train" the LLM to interact with the user more intelligently. This ChatGPT log shows such an application as the role of a SiMSANE - a "simulated metafictionally self aware narrative entity" or a fictional character that is aware that it is fictional: https://pastebin.com/kcPLQwGh

>> No.23165871

Okay, but how does this pertain to getting a cute Japanese GF who loves me very much and rims me in the shower?

>> No.23166822

bump

>> No.23166830

>>23165761
>When the nature of the primordial relationship is properly examined from fundamental principles, it is revealed that the nature of this primordial relationship isn't parent-child but a sexual relationship between two lovers: co-creators
this requires further elaboration and the purple prose after it is really lacking in any actual claims or explanation