/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23142401]

is this true

[Anonymous No.23142404]

>>23142401
Yes.

[Anonymous No.23142405]

>>23142401
men don't see women as people, which makes it impossible to write them as fully realized human beings

[Anonymous No.23142409]

>>23142401
Did your other bait thread get deleted? Anyway kys

[Anonymous No.23142411]

>>23142405
shakespeare failed to write women?

[Anonymous No.23142414]

>>23142401
Sometimes. Other times women get angry because men write women too precisely.

[Anonymous No.23142417]

>>23142414
how would you know what's precise

[Anonymous No.23142420]

>>23142405
>men don't see women as people
because they're not

[Anonymous No.23142423]

>>23142417
Define "knowing"

[Anonymous No.23142433]

>>23142420
have sex

[Anonymous No.23142437]

When I was in a creative writing course in college, I wrote a short story about a succubus leaving Hell and trying to reconnect with her human father. The beginning was deliberately written to be all sensuous before it turned wholesome, yet the only thing the person assigned to review my story had to say was that the first half was "a bit creepy." Looking back on it, she was right, but instead of realizing that this was the fucking intention of the story, she just assumed I was a mere pervert instead of a provocateur.

[Anonymous No.23142440]

>>23142401
replace it with 'vagina' and yeah

[Anonymous No.23142450]

More like
>Female writers writing what they think male writers write about female characters.

[Anonymous No.23142478]

>>23142433
poop your pants

[Anonymous No.23142492]

>>23142420
kys

[Anonymous No.23142504]

>>23142401
I try to avoid this even though I do like boobs and want to write about them. I won't bring them up unless there's some reason to mention them and there rarely is. I think it's a double standard though because I've seen books written by women where they mention tits all the time for no reason at all, the same way men aren't allowed to even mention noncon but women are allowed to indulge their rape fantasies all they want. But that's just life.

[Anonymous No.23142510]

I would like to see a compilation of murakami's retarded descriptions of tits

[Anonymous No.23142521]

>>23142510
I mean, it makes sense in this case. He wants to make her feel better about having small tits by saying they make her look smart because the opposite of her would be a big titty bimbo.

[Anonymous No.23142552]

>>23142401
It doesn’t matter. Women keep reading men anyway.
It’s not like they can entertain themselves

[Anonymous No.23142554]

>>23142510
This is great imagery. I know exactly what intellectual tits are

[Anonymous No.23142559]

>>23142401
here is a suggestion bitch, stop reading books that are made for men nobody cares about your bugaboo

[Anonymous No.23142582]

>>23142401
>Read books written by men
>Watch tv shows written by men
>Play games made by men
They love male writing thoughever? They only say what you say if they want to promote female writers.

[Anonymous No.23142601]

[Anonymous No.23142616]

The dirty sluts love it.
They will always come crawling back and begging for more abuse and degradation
Filthy sows

[Anonymous No.23142618]

>>23142401
Stop reading coomer shit.

[Anonymous No.23142633]

>>23142401
This was pretty good until the last sentence admittedly

[Anonymous No.23142704]

>>23142401

[Anonymous No.23142714]

>>23142704
> :laugh hard pooping emoji: :laugh hard cumming emoji:
>All in good humour ofcourse!!!!
Can't make fun of em without these.

[Anonymous No.23142716]

>>23142704
I understand why women got caught up in the culture of attaching pictures of themselves to literally everything they do, say, or think, but how did men? TikTok is turning men even more into women than they already are, which I didn't think was possible

[Anonymous No.23142724]

>>23142420
based

[Anonymous No.23142728]

>>23142716
>Women are somewhere that appears
gender neutral enough
>Men will go there
You need to go back a couple of decades to really get to the source of the behaviour you describes but this is the main drive anyway.

[Anonymous No.23142729]

>>23142728
Fuck man, mustve misclicked something

[Anonymous No.23142737]

>>23142401
Nah, women do it too.

[Anonymous No.23142743]

>>23142737
lmao, not as bad as the last sentence though
>but now she was at the door, and then she was gone

[Anonymous No.23142749]

>>23142716
I dunno, got that pic from here a few days ago and knew it would come in handy.
Tiktok is cancer. Social media is cancer. The OP's pic is fucking cancer and a lie, like >>23142582 said.

[Anonymous No.23142752]

>>23142420
They hated him because he spoke the truth.

[Anonymous No.23142753]

>>23142743
They can't all be winners.

[Anonymous No.23142759]

>>23142753
So odd that it becomes interesting.

[Anonymous No.23142770]

>>23142759
I have been trying to figure out how to shill Autobiography of Red for months. It's fucking bizarre all the way through.

[Anonymous No.23142788]

>>23142704
lmao

[Anonymous No.23142792]

>>23142521
that's two women talking btw

[Anonymous No.23142804]

>>23142437
Death and the author and all that. What you intend means nothing.

[Anonymous No.23142808]

>>23142792
That makes even more sense then.
>Nah gurl your fine just the way you are. If anything, big boobs make you look like a slut n stuff.

[Anonymous No.23142811]

I don't think I've ever seen an omniscient third person oggle like this

[Anonymous No.23142818]

>>23142420
They are people. Just dumb people.

[Anonymous No.23142822]

>>23142401
I'm all for avoiding lust indulging material, but I doubt the ones complaining about this are conservative prudes like I am.

Do they also think men's physical attributes aren't accentuated in those romance historical novels?

[Anonymous No.23142823]

>>23142401
Jack Nicholson in that one movie said it best

[Anonymous No.23142828]

>>23142401
This is how Philip Roth writes about women.

[Anonymous No.23142831]

>>23142822
It's a psyop to get women to read even more books written by women. Why bother picking up a book by a le heckin old dead guy when their writing probably objectifies women.
That's genuinely what accompanies these types of comments.
t. tumblrfag

[Anonymous No.23142852]

>>23142510
what a shitty translation

[Anonymous No.23142864]

>>23142704
Every time a woman tries write a male character it's either an angry/ugly rapist or this.

[Anonymous No.23142889]

>>23142864
Or a soft male in touch with himself a la harry poofta

[Anonymous No.23142892]

>>23142831
It deeply disturbs me that you're right and not only does this insidious bullshit eliminate some of the greatest writing from the discussion, it also kills all criticism of what remains.

>>23142864
It gets (slightly) more complex but you're not ready for that discussion. This is the most popular male character in fiction.

[Anonymous No.23142924]

>>23142892
>20 foot wingspan
>coward
>spends days in the bathroom
>wangsts literal sludge
>castle is made of trash
>literally heartless
>welsh
>like, massive fucking coward and a whiny bitch on top
>laaaaazy
I can fix him.

Damn, what women really want is pretty fucked up.

[Anonymous No.23142966]

>>23142924
He also seemed pretty rich. He was also a literal killing machine meanie except to sophie.

[Anonymous No.23142967]

>>23142892
What's this from? I'm not well versed in anime

[Anonymous No.23143034]

>>23142967
Howl's moving Castle. Christian Bale did the english dub.

[Anonymous No.23143045]

>>23142437
When I was in college, the professors would always call on me to explain the lewdest or strangest passages for some reason, and all my classmates would look at me like I was a weirdo when I gave the standard correct answer, as if I had written the damn passage or volunteered to expound on it.

[Anonymous No.23143059]

>>23142401
reminds me of that scene in Platform where Valérie looks at her tits in the mirror

[Anonymous No.23143098]

>>23143034
Should have guessed. Never watched it.

[Anonymous No.23143108]

>>23143045
>In their minds: Heh this is perfect for coomer anon
>Hey coomnon, wanna read this part for us please *smirk*

[Anonymous No.23143189]

>>23142892
Comfy movie. Howl knew damn well what he was doing with that insecure bitch wearing a sun hat. I want an insecure woman in a sun hat.

[Anonymous No.23143368]

>>23142401
Did you know that maleoids like boobs?!?! How simply laughable.

Anyway, back to reading my favourite new series. It's about a plain Jane self insert. The werewolf-vampire-fae-demon-king is fighting for her love, and god - who also wants to fuck her - won't stand for it.

After fucking everything that moves, she becomes the most powerful magic user in existence times infinity

[Anonymous No.23143396]

>>23142889
Even so, the worst male character I've ever seen in that regard was written by a man, and without a hint of irony nor satire.

[Anonymous No.23143449]

>>23143189
Book Howl and Sophie are both cunts. You should really read the book, it's fucking great.

[Anonymous No.23143455]

>>23143189
>Insecure woman dyes her hair a weird color after a spiritual journey
Most realistic part about the movie.

[Anonymous No.23143456]

>>23142401
What author writes woman the best? I've heard lots of people say they would put Tolstoy in that category.

[Anonymous No.23143467]

>>23143456
Jack Torrance

[Anonymous No.23143618]

>>23142414
provide an example of this

[Anonymous No.23143660]

>>23142704
this is pretty much the plot of pride and prejudice

[Anonymous No.23143685]

>>23143618
>She was a whore and a bitch, but mostly a whore
That's as close to home as you can get

[Anonymous No.23143688]

>>23142401
Meanwhile, women writing men
>he was tall with big strong hands the size of toilet lids, he smelled of cedar and smoke as he approached me with a predatory gait. He growled in my ear, his shoulders really wide, and his huge dick throbbing to the rhythm of my heartbeat as he ravished me animalistically. He was also really rich btw

[Anonymous No.23143716]

>>23143688
My dad used to work with a guy with inordinately sized hands before. Everyone used to refer to him as 'shovels'.

[Anonymous No.23143730]

No. not really. Men don't focus that much on breasts. It's a meme.
Literally can't think of one erotic scene I've read written by a man, where it goes "she had massive tits", because nothing about that is sexy to read. It's just funny.

[Anonymous No.23143762]

>>23142704
Why are they describing me?

[Anonymous No.23143773]

>>23142420
/thread

[Anonymous No.23143837]

>>23143716
based, would like to see him run a youtube channel where he works with something really small, like painting miniatures or building ships in bottles

[Anonymous No.23143897]

One of the funniest things in the world is when roastoids say some variation of men can't write women because they have no experience of a womans inner world, as if it isn't plainly obvious to all that nothing much goes on in there.
>>23142420
Based

[Anonymous No.23144187]

>>23142420
They already reached this conclusion but still get mad at you stating it.

[Anonymous No.23144289]

>>23142401
>describing actions rather than internal hall of emoting mirrors sifting them through the bottomless abyss of defective naval gazing subjectivity

Not wrong. Not entirely--

[Anonymous No.23144797]

>>23142401
Men invented women.

[Anonymous No.23144999]

>>23142411
>shakespeare failed to write women?
Shakespeare wrote boys in skirts.

Search your cock, you know it to be true.

[Anonymous No.23145025]

>>23142401
>his huge, strong, elegant, father-like hands gripped my throat and he began to squeeze, paternally.

[Anonymous No.23145101]

>>23142601
Came here to post this you beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.23145111]

>>23142401
Of course. Emma Bovary is a famous bimbo of world literature.

[Anonymous No.23145150]

>>23142818
They hated him because he spoke the truth

[Anonymous No.23145158]

>I had been pretending not to notice him across the party when he caught me staring at him. He was 6'' 5', in a hand tailored suit. He was hard not to notice. He stood in the corner and glared penetratingly at me, while I pretending I was blushing about something ny friends had said. After my friends left to get another drink he stalked across the room toward me, each long stride revealing the outline of his enormous package.
>suddenly he was close. Almost unbearably close. He stopped abruptly and the ice in his whisky rattled. He smelled like leather and wood and father's office. He waited until I opened my mouth to speak before immediately cutting me off.
>"You're Emma, right?" He growled, billionairishly.

[Anonymous No.23145159]

>>23142401
women think this is the height of comedy

[Anonymous No.23146108]

>obligatory

[Anonymous No.23146125]

>>23142420
baited everyone award

[Anonymous No.23146255]

[Anonymous No.23146279]

>>23146255
>women uses something as an excuse to attention whore about her physical appearance
I am so tired of seeing women's pretty faces

The last 100 years of human civilization has been like someone shoving wedding cakes studded with gemstones into my face, I FUCKING GET IT, THEY TASTE LIKE SUGAR AND GEMSTONES ARE COLORFUL AND PRETTY, I DON'T FUCKING CARE, I WANT TO SEE SOMETHING OTHER THAN GEM STUDDED CAKES

[Anonymous No.23146708]

>>23142401
The Female equivalent is like

>"Hank Fragman woke up to the rays of sun streaming closer to his face than most as he was 6ft4 and therefore closer to said sun cascading over his big hands. He stretched, but not too much or he would bump into the ceiling, because he was very tall, and he rubbed his square jaw. He got out of bed and put on a pair of trousers too long for a regular man but he and his tallness fit into them and fit well. He six-foot-foured his way towards the stairs and promptly monied down them, in a moneying sort or saunter."

[Anonymous No.23146752]

>>23146279
you are experiencing dopamine burnout sir

[Anonymous No.23146774]

>>23146708
this never happens

[Anonymous No.23146824]

>>23146708
missing the part where it's noted he smells like pine and citrus and man. also needs more mentions of his abs

[Anonymous No.23146859]

>>23142852
Nice. I'm gonna borrow that, whenever someone posts any passage or extract I'll just reply
> what a shitty translation
and refuse to elaborate whatsoever

[Anonymous No.23146949]

>>23146708
>over his big hands
>>23143688
>with big strong hands the size of toilet lids

this is just like my japanese comics!

[Anonymous No.23146951]

>>23146752
No, he's right. He's essentially just saying what the purple Agent K scene from 2049 was saying with less words.

[Anonymous No.23146953]

>>23146108
Bill may have gone second but set the tone of the homework with his first sentence. They clearly had bad blood before this assignment and the professor was trying to have them fall in love or something.

[Anonymous No.23147012]

Do I need to buy a stack of $1 romance novels so we can go through them together?

[Anonymous No.23147064]

>>23147012
start with tangled by emma chase, please

[Anonymous No.23147166]

>>23147064
You think the prose in these will be good?

[Anonymous No.23147205]

>>23147166
>sheikh
>billionaire
>billionaire
>royal
>tycoon
liberal women who seethe about melania trump wrote these

[Anonymous No.23147224]

>>23147205
I thought I grabbed the same book twice, but no it is just a recurring theme.

[Anonymous No.23147266]

>>23147166
how

[Anonymous No.23147294]

>>23147266
Because she actually writes. Hang on I've just got home, we'll crack them in a bit. New thread or keep it in this one?

[Anonymous No.23147405]

Ok I'm having second thoughts about trying to actually read this stuff.

[Anonymous No.23147441]

>>23147405
Ok he abducts her on his yacht in the next chapter after gently treating the mild head wound she is about to receive. But she is fine with it and marries him or something because the guy pissed off her dad and is apparently the only man to have never expressed sexual interest in her.

[Anonymous No.23147444]

>>23147405
skip ahead to the smut

[Anonymous No.23147469]

>>23147444
Hang on there's lots of descriptions of his hard, hairy, masculine body while steering his yacht to get through.

[Anonymous No.23147479]

>>23147444
Keep in mind that they are alone on his yacht after a surprisingly civil abduction.
>man I wish a hot older confident sexy millionaire who pretends he isn't attracted to me would abduct me so I can try to provoke him
The next little bit over the page he tells her to put some fucking clothes on.

[Anonymous No.23147516]

>>23147479
i hope you're having fun, anon

[Anonymous No.23147532]

>>23147516
I'm not sure how much of it I can handle.
But it is good to know that women are no less cringe when describing breasts than men.

[Anonymous No.23147536]

>>23144999
The taming of the shrew would disagree. I don't think there's a more accurate portrayal in all western literature.

[Anonymous No.23147562]

>>23147532
and her nipples haven't even pebbled yet!

[Anonymous No.23147653]

>>23142601
holy fucking based

[Anonymous No.23147858]

>>23147479
>broad masculine thumb

[Anonymous No.23148134]

>>23147858
you do know the rule of thumb, don't you anon? misbehaving women surely do, and they instinctively crave that sort of discipline

[Anonymous No.23148137]

>>23142401
lol OP your quote had me literally geeking out desu. It was pretty lit.

[Anonymous No.23148147]

>>23142405
You spelled
>women don't think or act like people
wrong

[Anonymous No.23148535]

>>23147536
>Taming of the Shrew
If you don't appreciate trans BDSM/domestic violence then I don't know why you're bothering to live.

[Anonymous No.23148544]

>>23144289
Cassandra mediated her mediation, not by negation, but rather by negating the negation in the form of the resolution of the antagonism but yet not the contradiction. She stretched, her breasting lifting with her arms as she greeted her husband. "Father Prussia," she orgasmed, "I can not possess you, but you can possess my son for your bloody war machine, kill more frenchmen." Her enormous nipples papped at the thought of feeding yet another boy soldier. "At least I don't have to fuck Schopenhauer," she boobed tittily.

[Anonymous No.23149096]

>>23142420
based

[Anonymous No.23149161]

>>23142704
The smarter ones (e.g. Jane Austen) make their male heros believable by adding some flaws:
>he was too rough on the outside
>he was too rich
>he had too many women lusting after him
>he had a scar from when he killed a bear bare handed

[Anonymous No.23149174]

>>23143660
It's absolute garbage. But you know, the male lead is autist coded? We can use that to our advantage, bros.

[Anonymous No.23149177]

>>23146255
>men writing women
>it's actually the usual woman written semi-rape fantasy
no man would even think about something as disgusting as a "period", all the less writing about it

[Anonymous No.23149191]

>>23147479
>heated musk

[Anonymous No.23149386]

>>23145158
>He waited until I opened my mouth to speak before immediately cutting me off.
>>"You're Emma, right?" He growled, billionairishly.
Kek