Tradphile books

[Anonymous No.23087609]

Want stuff in the vein of Roger Scruton G.K Chesterton

[Anonymous No.23087615]

>>23087609

I'm trans btw, don't know if that matters.

[Anonymous No.23087633]

Everyone but De Maistre is a complete waste of time. Maybe some Burke, if you really want more.

[Anonymous No.23087642]

>>23087609
How can you look at this image and not understand that Islam is the largest bastion of tradition remaining in the world when Christcucks have been reduced to this

[Anonymous No.23088854]

>>23087642
Are you brown?

[Anonymous No.23088875]

>>23088854
are you a jewish agent?

[Anonymous No.23089826]

>>23087609
>a pr*testant and a kike walk into a bar

>>23087633
This anon gets it

Unfortunately I don't traditionalism (politically) is possible in the 21st century. It would have been tempting and even possible in de Maistre's time to RETVRN, but that ship sailed long ago. You would need a mass extinction event (unlikely) to rebuild medieval Europe. Modern problems will require modern solutions. Some kind of neo-fascist White nationalism with a e s t h e t i c s and a confessional (Catholic) state is all we can hope for. We're not there yet, though. De Maistre has some fun ideas and he is a very good writer, though. I think He is essential reading for any Christian fascist. He has some absolute kino passages about sin and death and executions.

[Anonymous No.23089854]

>>23088854
Whiter than you

[Anonymous No.23089893]

>>23087642
Fake sandnigger shit for low IQ arabs. Tradition is not "in itself" good. Only the Truth (Christ) is good; man attains perfection through participating in this same Truth. So yeah, kikes, prots muslims stay seething and repent.

[Anonymous No.23089906]

>>23089826
>Some kind of neo-fascist White nationalism with a e s t h e t i c s and a confessional (Catholic) state is all we can hope for.
we're FUCKED

[Anonymous No.23089911]

Protestant moment

[Anonymous No.23089941]

>>23089826
>Implying Catholicism will not make a huge return

[Anonymous No.23089960]

>>23089906
Unironically I think I
White identitarianism is on the rise and will be a significant force by the end of this decade. (White) Catholics are becoming less and less "third-worldist" and "globalist" in character. Once boomers die this will accelerate. Just my observation.

[Anonymous No.23089963]

>>23089941

[Anonymous No.23089967]

>>23089941
Yeah that's based

[Anonymous No.23089969]

>>23087609
leon bloy, peter kreeft, alisdair macintrye

[Anonymous No.23089970]

>>23089960
i think this also. A Reconquista and Repatriation is the only way to save the white race
>>>/wsg/5440447
>>>/wsg/5450104
>>>/wsg/5450106

[Anonymous No.23089977]

>>23089970
Treat your sisters and daughters well and teach them to remain modest and in prayer always

[Anonymous No.23089991]

What I don't understand is that the actual conditions of "RETVRN" don't seem so hard to me.

Simple enough:

1. Destroy the global financial system
2. Destroy most major democratic republics
3. Restore de jure aristocracy and monarchy
4. Restore the Church to a position of secular power in the public sphere

Now, you may look at that and think it's impossible, but with sufficient applied force it would NOT be. And the plan, when you lay it out bare, isn't complicated. It's not like we have to take a lot of intricate steps to get back to where most trads want to take us. Like, this isn't some 20-step plan, some elaborate scheme.

You just need to be willing to blow a lot of things up, and burn a lot of things down.

Both literally and metaphorically, of course.

[Anonymous No.23090005]

>>23089991
shalom fed, we are not violent like you. go back to worshipping blacks, muslims, and jews

[Anonymous No.23090007]

>>23089977
You just know she's into rimjobs and anal.

[Anonymous No.23090052]

>>23089970
I think the tendency in the JP2 era was to push for a sort of Catholic variety of globalism (kissing Korans! We love Jews! Open borders!) The naivety of this became very clear when the world witnessed the absolute state of Europe during the Syrian migration years. Now Europe is blacked beyond all recognition and nobody is happy. It was just Catholicism à la hippy liberalism all along

[Anonymous No.23090070]

>>23090007
all trad girls are like that lmao

[Anonymous No.23090108]

Jews are waking up lads. 6:15am in Tel Aviv. Thanks for the wholesome thread. Prepare for the blacked porn and derailing by our favourite small-hat subversives

[Anonymous No.23090204]

Never fucking put that limp wristed fuck Scruton in the same camp as Chesterton again.

[Anonymous No.23090227]

>>23089941

[Anonymous No.23090245]

>>23090227
Right on time, schlomo. A boomer pope said a boomer thing. Wow what an observation. Let's not forget that Hungary is the EU's #1 supporter of Israel.

[Anonymous No.23090254]

>>23090227
I'm so fucking tired of Pope Francis. I feel like how Saint Peter Damian must have felt putting up with the Pornocracy.

All the non-fags in the Church are against him at this point, we're all just waiting for him to die. I think he knows it, too, hence the way he's been extra-annoying in the last few months.

[Anonymous No.23090267]

>>23090245
Catholicism is the pope and that will never change

[Anonymous No.23090273]

>>23090267
Catholicism is the Papacy, not individual Popes.

The best way to think of it is that that Pope is basically our king. You can have good kings, and bad kings, but the monarchy as an institution endures from one king to the next, and is the basis of the kingdom.

In the same way, the Church can have good Popes and bad Popes, but the Papacy as an institution endures from one Pope to the next, and is the basis for the Earthly unity of the People of God.

Christ, of course, is the real King of the Church, but until He comes again in glory the Pope is our earthly head.

[Anonymous No.23090278]

>>23090267
>heh Goyim look at what your pope said about this heckin based conservative trad government in Hungary
>oh you don't like the pope? I guess you should throw all your support behind Orban and Netanyahu in the name of (((Tradition™)))

If thus is what nationalism looks like in AD 2024 I pick neither, schlomo

[Anonymous No.23090286]

>>23090267
No, Catholicism is Jesus and the sacraments - that of which actually never changes.

[Anonymous No.23090302]

>>23090278
Why are you being anti-Semitic? You worship a Jew who says salvation is from the Jews.

[Anonymous No.23090309]

>>23090302
non-responsive. gg ez.

[Anonymous No.23090332]

>>23090302
We worship the Triune God, you massive faggot. Salvation is from God alone. God made a covenant with the Jews over 2000 years ago, which is was superseded by the new and eternal covenant of Christ's blood in 33AD. Jews basically don't exist. They are a parasitic people who hate Christ and His Church. Hence (((your))) gay memes, Schmuel.

>look he said another boomer thing wow what a win!

[Anonymous No.23090337]

>>23090302
Also:
>not supporting Israel is anti-Semitic

Ok kike

[Anonymous No.23090397]

>>23090332
Let's break this down... you want me to worship a Jew who says salvation is from the Jews. You want me to bow down to the Pope king who says Jews are the chosen people and that in every Christian there is a Jew and also millions of immigrants should accepted and we should kiss their feet but actually we aren't supposed bow down to this Pope because we disagree with what he says (how does that work?)... and we should go to our local Catholic Church which also say Jews are the chosen people and immigrants should be accepted and we should follow what the pope says and all of this is being told to billions of people... how does this help white people?

[Anonymous No.23090403]

>>23088875
NTA but it’s either that or third world toiletshittery

[Anonymous No.23090429]

>>23090397
Do you believe Jesus rose from the dead, or not?

[Anonymous No.23090432]

>>23090429
Completely unrelated to what I said

[Anonymous No.23090437]

>>23090432
It's entirely related, because it determines whether everything you said matters or not.

If Jesus did not rise from the dead, then he is not actually God, is not actually the Messiah. In that case, all the twists and turns you are pointing out become damning, and it all becomes nonsensical, and nobody should take Christianity seriously.

On the other hand, if Jesus actually did, in fact, rise from the dead, then he really is God. He really is the Messiah. He really is everything the Bible claims he is. And we'd better start taking him seriously, as well as the religion he founded, even if occasionally there is some confusion.

if Jesus actually rose from the dead, almost everything else is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.23090449]

>>23090437
Explain to me what Jesus rising from the dead has to do with kissing nigger feet? Why can't you believe Jesus rose from the dead and not get on your knees to kiss the feet of immigrants? Please don't avoid this question. No one ever answers...

[Anonymous No.23090461]

>>23090449
>can't respond to the subject matter
tell us your 'thoughts' on martin luther and hitler

[Anonymous No.23090470]

>>23090449
Are you a protestant? Can you just answer the question? I ask every time and everyone either avoids the question or goes straight to namecalling.

[Anonymous No.23090473]

>>23090461
Are you a protestant? Can you just answer the question? I ask every time and everyone either avoids the question or goes straight to namecalling.

[Anonymous No.23090476]

>>23090473
You didn't answer the question on whether you believed in the resurrection, and now can't answer your thoughts on Luther and Hitler. Sad! State your IQ before I engage you further

[Anonymous No.23090479]

>>23090476
It's not very Catholic knight crusader of you to act like a pussy and avoid the question.

[Anonymous No.23090481]

>>23090479
>still can't answer a simple question (which was asked first)
no iq = no further engagement

[Anonymous No.23090489]

>>23090481
A real Christian would not play silly games and just state his positions with honor and dignity because he is a warrior of Christ. These tricks you are doing are Jewish in nature..

[Anonymous No.23090495]

>>23090489
>too low IQ to realize zher is a walking embodiment of the no true scotsman fallacy
>too cowardly to state zher's opinion on luther and hitler, or zher's IQ
L M A O

[Anonymous No.23090514]

>>23090495
You don't think avoiding answering questions about your faith is more Jewish than Christian? You have to at least admit it's a pussy move. The only reason to avoid answering something is you know you're wrong

[Anonymous No.23090524]

>>23090514
ironic, in that you are refusing to answer a good faith question on hitler and luther. I thought you were a fascist lil bud

[Anonymous No.23090527]

>>23090524
I'm fan of Martin Luther and Hitler. My IQ is 122. My max dumbbell bench is 170. My favorite movie is Il Soprasso and I'm listening to Martha Tilton. I will answer anything else you ask.

[Anonymous No.23090540]

>>23090527
>i'm fan
oh what an intellectual!
even though you're almost certainly a reddit-tier jobless NEET (possibly jewish) pretending to like those two, i'll entertain this LARP with the same amount of intellectual prowess.
Pope is a leftist.

[Anonymous No.23090544]

>>23090540
I'm a jobless neet but I'm no reddit.
>Pope is a leftist.
If the Pope is leftist aren't you supposed to follow the Pope as he is the "king"?

[Anonymous No.23090554]

>>23090544
they aren't political leaders, their role only corresponds to religious questions as leaders obviously some popes would be more conservative or liberal in politics. the pope during WWII was mildly supportive of fascism, for instance

[Anonymous No.23090563]

>>23090554
"condemning anti-Judaism/anti-Semitism as a sin against God" is that not religious? He is saying it's a sin against God

[Anonymous No.23090581]

>>23090563
it's the pope's personal opinion, there's a formal procedure the pope theoretically could do to make his opinion the "official" stance of the church but it has only ever been done about four times in 2000 years
opinions vary on the jewish question by popes, the popes prior to 1960 were bad goys

[Anonymous No.23090585]

>>23090544
the only time the pope has any authority or influence is when they change church doctrine on the sacraments or developed theology.
if they comment about anything else in the world they are not acting as the pope, for instance talking about climate change rather trying to save souls and ensure most people receive heaven or purgatory through the scripture, sacraments etc.

worldliness is a sign of a bad pope.

>if they comment about anything else in the world they are not acting as the pope
also this is in the catholic church's law as well.

[Anonymous No.23090592]

>>23090581
Interesting. So you would agree that political opinions of the Pope and 99.9% of Catholics with power are ruining the political minds of billions of people and changing the world as we know it but you would say the religious aspect is still the important part even though they will likely end the western world as we know it.. you just have to shrug your shoulders and trust God

[Anonymous No.23090600]

>>23090592
look up the strawman fallacy, lol.
did I say any of what you just posited? try less to gain imaginary good boy autism argument points
everyone knows francis is a leftist, obviously leftist catholics like his views and conservative catholics don't

[Anonymous No.23090608]

>>23090600
If you're the same person as above you were trying to act "redpilled" so you would agree billions of African immigrants combined with jewish power are going to destroy the west no? It's the Pope and Catholics who are saying to let them in that Jews are our brothers. Even if you disagree with them they are convincing hundreds of millions of Catholics that this is okay.. just because you don't let the pope dictate your politics the majority of Catholics do..

[Anonymous No.23090621]

>>23090608
>gets told to stop obnoxiously strawmanning
>strawmans in the next post
Most people who aren't midwit autists on 4chan realize that people have differing views and don't act like robots. almost all groups in the USA have 45-45 divided views on immigration, for instance. And if you had a grasp of reality you would realize that Obama caused the immigration crisis in the first place by destablizing northern Africa in 2011 with the assasination of Ghaddafi.

[Anonymous No.23090633]

>>23090621
So half of Catholics think undocumented immigrants are a good thing. 686 million.. And I wonder what percentage of that other half think that legal immigrants are a good thing? I'd bet it's the majority. So let's write it out..

>1 billion Catholics think legal immigration is a good thing. 683 million of that 1 billion believe that ILLEGAL immigration is a good thing.

[Anonymous No.23090637]

>>23090633
And half of nonreligious unaffliliated think the same, and in fact atheists are much more leftist and vote dem significantly more often than the average religious voter ;)

[Anonymous No.23090643]

>>23090637
I'm not arguing for atheism. I'm saying Catholicism as it exists in the present is keeping people from being politically far right. Unless something changes (which it won't) you will one day have a make a decision to chose between Catholicism or Nationalism and you will choose Catholicism just like E Michael Jones and all other "redpilled" Catholics.

[Anonymous No.23090660]

>>23090643
>I'm saying Catholicism as it exists in the present is keeping people from being politically far right.
human nature generally precludes extremes
>i'm not arguing for atheism... but those DARN catholics are preventing right wing revolution...
even though spain, france, and chile were all under fascist leadership. no wonder you're a jobless NEET

[Anonymous No.23090675]

>>23090660
I said Catholicism as it exists... it will be less than a hundred years until the west is dead... what's more likely... europe is overrun by immigrants in the next 30 years or Catholic abuelita becomes a Nazi

[Anonymous No.23090689]

>>23089941
>>23089963
You're not White, Pedro

[Anonymous No.23090692]

>>23090675
>Catholic abuelita becomes a Nazi
even though you jest, you would find a decent amount of these in german bavaria or in spain, right now.

[Anonymous No.23090701]

>>23090692
Not enough which is really my point. I don't care if you're Catholic but at the moment Catholics even on the right are pushing people to the Church over pushing anti-Immigration which isn't the right call because there isn't enough time..

[Anonymous No.23090711]

>>23090701
>are pushing people to the Church over pushing anti-Immigration which isn't the right call because there isn't enough time..
u wot m8
go to sleep, your posting is becoming gramatically incomprehensible

[Anonymous No.23090719]

>>23090711
Catholics are focusing on Catholicism and pushing people to a pro-Immigration Pope and Church when they should be focusing on politics and anti-immigration. You guys want to focus on saving souls instead of focusing on the border

[Anonymous No.23090732]

>>23090719
>pushing people to a pro-Immigration Pope and Church
that's not how the word push works
you meant to say promote (I guess)
also, meanwhile in reality no other religious group (or atheist group) is focussed on immigration other than orban and trump, who again, are supported mostly by christians and a sizeable amount of catholics.

[Anonymous No.23090764]

>>23090732
So would you vote for an Atheist who was anti-Immigration over a Catholic who was pro-Immigration?

[Anonymous No.23090775]

>>23090764
Why are all of your posts hypotheticals or strawmen? lmao.
if it was somehow "revealed" that trump was an atheist and it was him vs biden (who is marginally catholic) yes, obviously i would still vote for trump. like i said, conservative catholics vote right, liberal atheists vote left, etc

[Anonymous No.23090788]

>>23090775
Cause even though you try to act good faith when it comes down it you will pick religion over anything else. I don't blame you I would too but it doesn't help the rest of us.. Like obviously if some atheist fascist dictator came and said he was going to fix everything.. Lock down the borders. Remove all jewish control. Ban rap music. Mandate beef tallow but he was against Christianity and wanted to remove all religion from the country you would not support him and you vote for anyone else including a leftist.

[Anonymous No.23090793]

>>23087642
>tradition = antisemitism

American catholarper detected

[Anonymous No.23090797]

>>23090788
>you will pick religion over anything else
how MANY TIMES must it be explained to you that catholics are generally more conservative than atheists and vote for trump more often than they do?

[Anonymous No.23090799]

>>23089941
>RETVRN TO ROME
>meme has a shieldmaiden in it

[Anonymous No.23090807]

>>23090797
You vote conservative until the leader starts talking about removing Christians from power and destroying churches then it doesn't matter how redpilled he was you would vote for Joe Biden.

[Anonymous No.23090811]

>>23090807
>leader starts talking about removing Christians from power and destroying churches
I like that the only political leader to actually do this was Mao from China. You asian, my dude?

[Anonymous No.23090812]

>>23090811
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

[Anonymous No.23090818]

>>23090812
>destroying churches
the nazis didn't do this tho lol. mao did physically knock them down. you a maoist my bro?

[Anonymous No.23090820]

>>23090818
I remember reading a book where it said they were taking the Christian imagery out of the churches and putting in Nazi imagery. The wiki goes over Hitler plan to eventually get rid of Christianity.

[Anonymous No.23090828]

>>23090820
>The wiki goes over Hitler plan to eventually get rid of Christianity.
Well that didn't exactly happen, did it. Meanwhile he publically was friendly to Christianity though he PERSONALLY and secretly did not believe in it. Anything else?

[Anonymous No.23090831]

>>23090828
>Well that didn't exactly happen, did it.
I mean he didn't have enough time.. once it got to that point is when you would vote for Joe Biden. You would have no other option. Not that it matters. This is all a larp. None of us are getting what we want... we are powerless.
> and secretly did not believe in it.
At least you admit it unlike most Christians I talk to...

[Anonymous No.23090846]

>>23090831
> and secretly did not believe in it.
>At least you admit it unlike most Christians I talk to...
an autistic but vaguely amusing grasp at humor. i can tell you are sleepy. good night little bud, hopefully this conversation made you slightly less unhinged

[Anonymous No.23090860]

>>23090846
good night

[Anonymous No.23091767]

>>23087609
Culture and Anarchy - Matthew Arnold

[Anonymous No.23091787]

>>23087609
Looks like he also wear the little white hat kek... at least papist don't hide themselves

[Anonymous No.23091797]

>>23087642
Calling people Christcucks when all muslims watch like a cuckold as Jews expel Palestinians from Gaza.
What happened to that masculine religion? All your leaders are just hoping Israel does it fast so they can do business with them again.
Dog religion, you won't do shit.

[Anonymous No.23091824]

>>23091767
I feel like the solution to so many problems resides in the Victorians. It is like we were detached from their traditions, and we unironically need to retvrn

[Anonymous No.23091857]

>>23091824
Writing was better back when dumb people couldn't read.

[Anonymous No.23091886]

>>23091857
True. I guess, looking at your graph, the Victorian era was the beginning of the literary downfall with its promotion of mass literacy.

[Anonymous No.23091949]

>>23091886
When you consider the habit of reading literature would likely trail "literacy" by at least several decades the chart makes even more sense.

[Anonymous No.23091996]

>>23091949
You are right. I may have jumped the gun.

[Anonymous No.23092054]

>>23087609
I get why Wood would dislike thugs like Hamas, but doesn't he care about the Palestinian Christians expelled by the Nakba, or those oppressed by the Israeli occupation and West Bank settler crackpots? Lebanese Christians hate the Palestinians (because of the PLO's schemes in Lebanon) but only a tiny minority (SLA nostalgics and diaspora frauds like the realMaalouf grifter on Twitter) are pro-Israel. Then again Wood despises the Old Testament, downplays how old school Christians permitted conquest in the name of spreading religion, and refused to admit Anne Frank would go to hell for not believing in Christ's divinity. The Dawah crowd suck but correctly called him and InspiringPhilosophy a secularized conservative who prioritizes liberal democracy over religion. Western Christianity really is doomed.

The guy on his right is even funnier and is a even bigger grifter. Uses New Atheist arguments about Islam and argues that the world would be better off without religion, but then makes sloppy apologetics for Christianity and Judaism that could just as much apply to Islam (to appease his Christian and Jewish doners). He outright denies the fact Talmud allows fucking 3 year olds instead of just saying that most Jews don't follow the Talmud outside a few cherrypicked beliefs. And like all the other ex-Muslim types (who make their apostasy a major pillar of their views and personalities), he is a massive shill for the ethnoreligious state of Israel despite claiming to be a skeptic. Most of the ex-Muslim community (not just the high profile activists but their spaces like r/exmuslim) seem to have very simplistic views based on contrarianism, spite, and an extreme affinity towards the West and Israel. Only a very few of them have more nuanced views. I get why they see things the way they do, but it isn't a healthy outlook.

>>23089906
Mussolini was an atheist who pretended to be a Christian to get the support of the conservative right. I heard he did become religious in his final years.
>>23091886
That's because literacy was only available to the nobles.

[Anonymous No.23093367]

>>23087642
Muslims will say this then renounce non-Wahhabis philosophers as Shia kuffar

[Anonymous No.23094412]

I used to be trad, but I realized it's a retarded larp. I support an utilitarian approach to austrian economics now. This way I can defend patriarchal structures without any metaphysical commitments. Religion appeals to hysteric individuals, and the same can be said about race worship.

[Anonymous No.23094429]

>>23089991
historically this stuff was typically done by restoration rather than revolution but in any case both seem more viable than reform at the moment. the immigration question poses the very real threat of accidentally sparking a major race war though.

[Anonymous No.23094677]

>>23087642
Don't forget to martyr yourself for that six sweet-year old harem ass first, you bastion of tradition.

[Anonymous No.23095250]

>>23087609
Those two would've been slaughtered by the crusaders in 1099 A.D. Absolute state Cuckianity

[Anonymous No.23095256]

>>23095250
*absolute state of Cuckianity

[Anonymous No.23095263]

>>23087642
the american evangelical tradition is violence and murder.

[Anonymous No.23095266]

>>23087642
By coping.

[Anonymous No.23095324]

>>23087609
>614 A.D. - Palestine

>Jews Expelled by Persians/massacred by Romans as Persians invade and capture Galilee; Jews joined army of invading Persians against Rome; Jews purchase 90,000 Christian
prisoners from the Persians for the pleasure of cruelly putting them to death; Jews were expelled, however, afterwards, because they insisted on setting up their own independent
state under the protection of Persia and the Persians weren’t going to allow that (James
Parkes, ‘The Conflict of The Church and The Synagogue’, p. 260; originally via Michael the
Syrian).

>629 A.D. - Jerusalem

>Jews Expelled partially by Byzantine Emperor Heraclius I after retaking of Jerusalem; upon approach, Jews bribed him to guarantee their safety, but upon entering the city and seeing
the number of Christians that the Jews had killed, he withdrew his promise, executed many of them, and expelled the remaining Jews (James Parkes, ‘The Conflict of The Church
and The Synagogue’, p. 261).

Get fucked kikes.

[Anonymous No.23095336]

>>23087609
Didn't David Wood try to murder his dad?

[Anonymous No.23095354]

>>23095336
he did, he's a fucking psycho, as evidenced by his christcuck turn

[Anonymous No.23096780]

>>23087642
Neither of them is Orthodox Christian.

[Anonymous No.23096785]

>>23087642
>bitch ass nigga prophet muha raped a child
>bastion of tradition
easy on the camel piss now muhamam hijab

[Anonymous No.23097248]

>>23087609
Maurras is probable an extrême version of them.