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23082038 No.23082038 [Reply] [Original]

Was he a genius or just a passionate, honest man? We're starting to really figure this shit out in neuroscience.

>> No.23082063

The term genius is retarded. He's a great man and a great writer, though. He gets down deep into the soul. And his prose is cool cause he brings that eastern European thought into English without translation.

>> No.23082134

>>23082063
I'd call that genius

>> No.23082343

>>23082063
>The term genius is retarded
I meant in terms of IQ.

>> No.23082406

>>23082063
His prose is mid. Nabokov was right.

>> No.23082423

>>23082406
Prose is more sophistry than intelligence.

>> No.23082454

>>23082423
>Hemingway is certainly the better of the two; he has at least a voice of his own and is responsible for that delightful, highly artistic short story, “The Killers.” And the description of the iridescent fish and rhythmic urination in his famous fish story is superb. But I cannot abide Conrad’s souvenir-shop style, bottled ships and shell necklaces of romanticist clichés. In neither of those two writers can I find anything that I would care to have written myself. In mentality and emotion, they are hopelessly juvenile, and the same can be said of some other beloved authors, the pets of the common room, the consolation and support of graduate students, such as—but some are still alive, and I hate to hurt living old boys while the dead ones are not yet buried

>> No.23082479

>>23082454
Is this a joke?

>> No.23083906

>>23082454
I've never read nabakov, but he comes across as a massive snob

Hemingway rules. Calling him hopelessly juvenile is ridiculous. Nabakov thinks that because he was a professor, his style of literature is somehow more artistic and deep than hemingway just shows how stuck in an ivory tower he was.

I'll still read lolita tho, to see what the hype is about

>> No.23083913

>>23082454
This is the biggest cry for anal rape that I have ever read.

>> No.23084011

>>23082038
His characterization is always great, and very often (bar nostromo, which is a pastiche) seems to stem from personal experience, I fully believe Conrad met quite a few of his characters.

>> No.23085229

>>23082454
Covl go up.

>> No.23085355

I get the feeling Heart of Darkness is taught more for ideological/moral reasons than for exceptional storytelling quality, like To Kill a Mockingbird. As a plotbrain I liked The End of the Tether more, even if it's a bit cartoonish/not so deep.

>> No.23086199

>>23083906
Nab has style, I will give him that. But even though Lolita moved me, it was no more impactful than most classics Ive read. Didn't come close to novels with greater themes.
I don't want to judge him too harshly until I read more of his work, but so far I think his opinions are awful. There are Faulkner short stories that have hit me harder than Lolita did. Even Heart of Darkness was more impactful, which just so happened to be a major influence upon Faulkner. Go figure Nab couldnt stand either.

>> No.23086333

>>23085355
I tranny-hearted Nostromo. I like the book.