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23080517 No.23080517 [Reply] [Original]

So when does this slog get good?
>400 pages in
>300 pages were just whaling autism

>> No.23080523

>>23080517
If you want boating around but good, get yourself some Joseph Conrad.

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>>23080517
>filtered

>> No.23080617

>>23080517
Yeah, once you actually read Moby Dick you realize that anyone who thinks it's a good book never actually read it.

>> No.23080633
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>>23080517
AND ITS FUCKING GREAT

>>23080617
This is what I say about 1984, what a piece of shit novel

>> No.23080891

>>23080517

It doesn't get good ever, but at least the whale shows up in the last three chapters.

>> No.23081087

>>23080517
It doesn't get really good until Extracts

>> No.23081107

>>23080517
It gets good in the last ~15%. Everyrhing before is just autism, misread as genius by pseuds

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>>23081107

>> No.23081135
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>>23080517
The book is best appreciated after the fact, for just as Ishmael best understands Ahab through recollection, one must traverse the sea of Melville's watery prose to find meaning in the wake left behind.

>> No.23081150

Test

>> No.23081159
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>I-It's just autism!
The cetology portions are largely done from Ishmael's perspective. They help us understand the epistemological value of the whale hunt, as well as the unique and absurd nature of whales in general, while also strengthening the scientific and religious aspects of the novel. That not everything Ishmael says and understands is correct is part of this. No matter how much we study, no matter how far we advance science, true understanding of the world is just out of our grasp. That Ishmael continues his quest for gnosis despite this, that Ahab does as well, that all humanity is endlessly search for who we are and what this world really is, is the very essence of moby dick as a novel
The cetology portions are also very funny and serve as a good time capsule for the early days of scientific research

>> No.23081167

>>23081107
Autism is good, I want the author to never shut the fuck up about the subject because it's that exciting to them.

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>>23080517
hehe
dick...

>> No.23081171

We read In the Heart of the Sea when it came out. Never read Moby Dick. Get over it.

>> No.23081273

>>23080517
I’m guessing you also got filtered by the Catalogue of Ships

>> No.23081369

>>23081159
>pseuding this hard for a sluggish hubris history with whale & christian autism

>> No.23081429

>>23080517
The whaling autism is good though.

>> No.23081441

>>23081369
Why does analysis offend you so much

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It's good from the get go, you simply don't like it.
You have no obligation to like a book just because it's a timeless classic of immense quality. And it's not that you "got filtered", it simply doesn't align with your own personal taste. Now drop it and read a book you feel enthusiastic about. Enjoy your stupid life anon, each passing second is a bit of life you no longer have.

>> No.23081471

>>23080517

You have to hand it to whoever designed that book cover and doesn't know the difference between a sperm whale and a blue whale.

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>>23080523
Cringe. Conrad never gets to the point while Melville dances around the point in a beautiful, spectacular fashion

>> No.23082129

>>23080517
what's wrong with whaling autism?

>> No.23082187

Starbuck should have blasted Ahab's head off when he had the opportunity

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>>23081453
>it's a timeless classic of immense quality
Lol, not even close. It is however a great book for writers to study because of how inventive it was. Oh, I can write a book about my main character's musings and day dreaming thoughts the whole time? COOL! Let me try that. Plus it actually does have some actually literary value in that there are some paragraphs that are beautifully written and then you have whole chapters set up like, and mirroring, a scene from a Shakespearian play. Oh I can do that in a book? COOL! Let me try that!

>And it's not that you "got filtered", it simply doesn't align with your own personal taste.
Yeah, it's going to be a shitty book to most that read it, even at the time people thought it was a shitty book. Today people think it was a shitty book. And all in between people thought it was a shitty book. But again, it's still a great book for writers to study for how inventive it was. It likely inspired a lot of books that actually are good and wouldn't have been written but not for Moby Dick

>> No.23083801

When you read Melville, you're reading Carlyle made safe for a middlebrow audience.