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Which Muslim philosophers are studied by secular philosophers today?

There are Muslim philosophers which in the past have played an important role for academic philosophy in the west, such as Avicenna and Averroes. And there are modern Muslim philosophers such as Rene Guenon and Seyyed Hossein Nasr, and Ali Shariati.

>> No.23040960

>>23040939
Enlighten me about Muslim philosophy because I think they are a bunch of hypocrites even worse than Americans

>> No.23040990

>>23040939
Muslim philosophers are about as studied as pre enlightenment Christian philosophers. Not really worth reading.

>> No.23041000

>>23040939
Muhammad said it’s good to rape and molest children because he’s evil

>> No.23041007

>>23041000
Based trips

>> No.23041017

>>23040960
Muslim philosophy is actually quite similar to American philosophy. Just mindless pragmatism and a burning hatred for esthetics. I don't know whether this has something to do with the similarities between the 21st century versions of American Christianity or Saudi Islam, although this is possible

>> No.23042026

>>23040960
>>23040990
>>23041000
>>23041007
>>23041017
Filtered midwits

>> No.23042045

>>23040939
Mulla Sadra
Al-Farabi
Al-Ghazali
Ibn Tufayl and his Hayy ibn Yaqdhan which is the first philosophical novel are still studied today

There is an aversion to learning about Muslim philosophy and Islam in general because it is so convincing and one of the only remaining forces against western atheist liberal degeneracy.

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>>23042045
>There is an aversion to learning about Muslim philosophy and Islam in general because it is so convincing

some of that islamic philosophical prowess on display.

>> No.23042591

>>23042045
muslims don't read, they're just useful idiots waiting to be farmed

>> No.23042717

>>23040939
Mulla Sadra is the only interesting one. And even then it's hopelessly antiquated. Otherwise they're just medieval Aristotelian and Neoplatonic mishmashes well behind their also hoplessly outdated Western counterparts.

>> No.23042746

>>23042717
I'll add Al-Ghazali is interesting as a skeptic/anti-philosopher. From the others you can also gain new allegories for Neoplatonism, flowery talk of veils and isthmuses and dreamlands and perfect men etc. which is all very nice for poetic inspiration. But aside from Sadra there aren't many philosophical punches being thrown, especially compared to an Eriugena who is writing well before them, and to gain anything from them you have to place a contemporary value on Neoplatonism as a whole, which is dubious.

>> No.23042856

>>23040939
There is virtually no consideration of Islamic philosophy or literature from the secular West, not even for respected intellectual figures like Avicenna or Khaldun.

>> No.23043117

>>23040939
The impact of Arabic philosophers such as al-Fārābī, Avicenna and Averroes on Western philosophy was particularly strong in natural philosophy, psychology and metaphysics, but also extended to logic and ethics.

>> No.23043133

>>23042856
In the writings of Albertus Magnus, the influence of Avicenna is combined with that of Averroes, who distinguishes two intellects apart from the separate active intellect: the material intellect, which is pure potentiality (and unique, see section 5.4 below) and the speculative intellect, which is the actuality of the grasped intelligible. Averroes and Avicenna both teach that the human and active intellect conjoin in the moment of intellection. Averroes, in particular, claims that a perfect conjunction with the active intellect results in God-like knowledge and that such a conjunction is possible in this life (Comm. magnum De anima III.5 and III.36).

Albertus Magnus, in his early De homine (qu. 56 a. 3), adopts the Avicennian doctrine of three potential intellects in his scholastic reformulation, but in his later works, under the influence of Averroes, transforms it into a theory of intellectual ascension. The highest level of the human intellect is called “acquired intellect” (intellectus adeptus) and results from the conjunction between the potential and the active intellect, both parts of the human soul. In this stage, the intellect is able to grasp all intellectual knowledge, and does not need to have recourse to the senses again. In virtue of this intellect, a human being becomes God-like (De anima 3.3.11) (de Libera 2005, 325–327).

>> No.23043145

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/arabic-islamic-influence/

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>>23043117
That era of influence? The Dark Ages.
>>23042856
There is the French school of Henry Corbin.

>> No.23043411

>>23042856
Agreed, but academically not true.

>> No.23043416

>>23043328
>French school of Henry Corbin.
exactly what I was talking about