/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23040754]

>2024
>I am forgotten

[Anonymous No.23040769]

he is more relevant than ever, there are silicon valley bros practicing a soft accelerationism with E/acc

[Anonymous No.23040782]

>>23040754
Good, we should forget this anglo and his schizophrenic ramblings that people often mistake for philosophy

[Anonymous No.23040796]

>>23040754
people like mark andreessen are shilling him now lol, god the world will never escape the yoke of psychopathic retards

[Anonymous No.23040804]

>Virtual Futures 96 was advertised as "an anti-disciplinary event" and "a conference in the post-humanities". One session involved Nick Land "lying on the ground, croaking into a mic", recalls Robin Mackay, while Mackay played jungle records in the background."[

[Anonymous No.23040809]

>>23040804
>Land taught at the New Centre for Research & Practice until March 2017, when the Centre ended its relationship with him "following several tweets by Land this year in which he espoused intolerant opinions about Muslims and immigrants"

[Anonymous No.23040812]

Where did he go?

[Anonymous No.23040816]

>>23040812
@xenocosmography

[Anonymous No.23040854]

>>23040769
>>23040796
So when do we get to go full transhuman? I for one would like mechadendrites for... reasons.
>>23040804
You forgot the best part. One of the attendees found it so offensive they shouted, "Some of us are still Marxists, you know!", and left the room.
>>23040809
Why is he backsliding into regular racism after having transcended to the level of hyper-racism?
https://affirmativeright.blogspot.com/2014/10/hyper-racism.html

[Anonymous No.23040855]

Very interesting stuff

https://www.orphandriftarchive.com/articles/hyperstition-an-introduction/

>Q1. I wonder if you could elaborate on what exactly is concealed … what will be revealed by apocalypse?

>R1. What is concealed (the Occult) is an alien order of time, which betrays itself through ‘coincidences’, ‘synchronicities’ and similar indications of an intelligent arrangement of fate. An example is the cabbalistic pattern occulted in ordinary languages – a pattern that cannot emerge without eroding itself, since the generalized (human) understanding and deliberated usage of letter-clusters as numerical units would shut down the channel of ‘coincidence’ (alien information). It is only because people use words without numerizing them, that they remain open as conduits for something else. To dissolve the screen that hides such things (and by hiding them, enables them to continue), is to fuse with the source of the signal and liquidate the world.

[Anonymous No.23040865]

>>23040754
irrelevant to /lit/

[Anonymous No.23040878]

>>23040865
>be nick land
>read books
>wrote books
What have you done?

[Anonymous No.23040882]

>>23040855

See my ramblings:
>>/lit/thread/23007770#p23008447

In particular
>>/lit/thread/23006612#p23007339

There is the concept hyperstition and the possibility of hyperstitionally inducing this concept. I claim this is what I did, and I can feel this is also the route Nick Land went along. Can someone who has more experienced with this man's writings confirm ?

[Anonymous No.23040902]

>>23040878
what has he contributed to society other than another useless ideology, academics love to wallow in their own filth

[Anonymous No.23040921]

>>23040902
He inspired his students to make music.
youtube.com/watch?v=IIRE67S7Ydg
youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6d2KQEcy8

[Anonymous No.23040926]

>>23040854
By 2030s AI will be a trillion dollar industry and have transformed society, that is just one aspect of it all too mind you. But once again everyone will be reminded this is just one epoch, and in 5 years they’ll realize more time has subtly slipped away from them. Anti-aging is well underway, quantum computing a reality, full trans human society I give it 10 years desu.

[Anonymous No.23040934]

>>23040926
don't forget that society will be controlled by a few companies

[Anonymous No.23040980]

>>23040934
That should be interesting to see happen.. In China I'm not sure if that's possible given how much power the party has, and I'm unsure of what Land's outlook for it is either though I know he likes it. I can't imagine corps being more powerful than the government in America, though it's not a far reach at this point. I just can't picture how it might happen exactly.

[Anonymous No.23041016]

>>23040980
don't American politicians all work for the lobby, it's the most absurd democracy I can imagine where you have to have huge amounts of wealth and funding to do politics. I am saying this because most companies that are not fortunate 500 are very far away of using ai in their processes. My hope is that ai will also get rid of most managers and businesses people that contribute nothing to the daily operations

[Anonymous No.23041311]

>>23040980
Politicians already rely heavily on oligarchs. If you want power within your party you need a base of power that isn't accountable to it. That means allies in every institution (banks, courts, police, universities, news networks, etc). You need to vet your network for loyalty, which requires substantial non-profit organisations (private trusts, foundations, NGOs, think tanks, etc). All of this requires private income streams on a scale that can only be provided by the largest corporations.
It doesn't matter if you have a 1 party state like China, or a 2 party democracy or even a multiparty democracy with PR voting. The process for getting power is the same.
>I can't imagine corps being more powerful than the government in America
If the government displeases them they will simply replace the government with their own people. I've had a sneaking suspicion for a while that this is what the Heritage Foundation donors are currently doing with Project 2025.
>inb4 Trump is a retard tho
That's exactly why they would pick him as a front man. A member of their own class who is easy for them to control, but still inspiring enough to have people fighting for him in the streets.
>>23041016
Yes, and "lobby" is just the legal term for "acceptable bribery". The government is for sale, so long as you go through the proper channels.

[Anonymous No.23041322]

>>23040926
Nick Land was saying this would occur in the 2010s...and then it didn't

[Anonymous No.23041345]

>>23041322
The trillion dollar industry is a projection by financial institutions. We can see most of this developing real time. Also when did he ever give a specific timeframe? Regardless most of his writings and work was timed before this millennium eve began, before the Iphone or Facebook got going.

[Anonymous No.23041634]

>>23040754
>hasn't posted on Twitter in three months
He's dead. Taken out by Xi Jinping.

[Anonymous No.23042170]

How do I write prose like Land and gain a superficial understanding of his philosophy? Is reading/studying Fanged Noumena enough?

[Anonymous No.23042199]

>>23041634
He’s been traveling

[Anonymous No.23042232]

>>23041634
>>23040816

[Anonymous No.23042248]

>>23042232
That's obviously ai or a zoomer aping him

[Anonymous No.23042252]

>>23040980
>In China I'm not sure if that's possible given how much power the party has
Dostoyevsky said beauty will save the world. He was dead wrong, it's multipolarity.

[Anonymous No.23042645]

>>23042170
Read Deleuze (at least AO and ATP, use Holland’s introduction to help you), probably read bataille, nietzsche, Marx as well. Read Lovecraft, cyberpunk novels, and do a little bit of speed. good to go.
The later stuff you can raw dog it’s pretty comprehensible maybe familiarize yourself with Darwin

[Anonymous No.23043126]

>>23042170
Fanged Noumena isn’t the whole picture, but it is a start.

[Anonymous No.23043141]

>>23040754
...who?

[Anonymous No.23043320]

>>23040782
The Anti-Anglo crowd needs to leave. Go start an image board in your mother tongue.

[Anonymous No.23043326]

what’s the difference between young land and old land?
is better off for Techno-Capital to united the world under one government/one market or separate National market.
Why does Land likes Racism so much?

[Anonymous No.23043757]

>>23042252
china seems set to be cold war II, so bipolarity. multipolarity will do nothing unless it is in europe.

[Anonymous No.23043800]

>>23042645
I said superficial understanding, but thanks.

[Anonymous No.23043808]

>>23042248
Explain why, because it isn't true

[Anonymous No.23043813]

It’s an shame Nick Land never finished his works before passing..

[Anonymous No.23043846]

There used to be fascinating Technics threads on /lit/
They hit me right when I was going through peak technoshizophrenia
BRING THEM BACK

[Anonymous No.23043895]

I just moved to Shanghai. I wonder where he hangs out so I can meet him...

[Anonymous No.23043899]

>>23043800
that is a superficial understanding.

[Anonymous No.23043929]

>>23043899
It sounds awfully inefficient way to be merely surface level.
Why are philosophyfags like this?

[Anonymous No.23045257]

>>23043895
He wrote an intro for the Shanghai World Expo guide. So I'm guessing you would find him at niche cultural events.

[Anonymous No.23045270]

>>23043813
He finished them after passing, then sent them back in time to the 1990s.

[Anonymous No.23045361]

>>23042199
he likes to wander too?

[Anonymous No.23045438]

>>23043929
because like any discipline the more obscure you go the harder it gets to understand. why is this so difficult for you westoids to get? jfc get off your ass and read a book instead of posting on 4chan all day.

[Anonymous No.23045691]

>>23045438
I don't want to understand it, you ESL. I want to misunderstand it. Read between the lines for once instead of trying to make an acolyte of everyone.

[Anonymous No.23045703]

>>23045691
>you ESL
that's like playing the holocaust card, you london-dweller

[Anonymous No.23045705]

No one ever mentions Xenosystems. Meanwhile that's probably his largest text corpus.

[Anonymous No.23045778]

>>23042232
>>23040816
Oh shit I didn't realized he dropped @Outsideness
Shame because that was a good handle

[Anonymous No.23045915]

>>23040816
THAT FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.23045957]

>>23045778
Well, his tweets are very boring. And I like his writing generally.

[Anonymous No.23045990]

>>23045957
quite fascinating how an upright man can "evolve" to the level of a snake on LSD
all those 90s and 00s and even 10s wasted on... what?!

[Anonymous No.23046164]

Never read any Land. Where's a good place to start?

[Anonymous No.23046183]

>>23046164
his outsideness twitter was pretty cool, at least compared to his writings or his new twitter

[Anonymous No.23046220]

>>23046164
https://web.archive.org/web/20140313023043/http://www.xenosystems.net/what-is-philosophy/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140313022059/http://www.xenosystems.net/what-is-philosophy-part-2a/
https://web.archive.org/web/20190911140837/http://www.xenosystems.net/sub-cognitive-fragments-1/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140313020303/http://www.xenosystems.net/teleology-and-camouflage/

[Anonymous No.23046453]

>>23045691
>Read between the lines
>can’t figure out how to get a superficial understanding of someone’s writing
God you people are mentally disabled. Cocoon yourself in your shitstained chair until they figure out a cure for your terminal retardation, I’m begging you.

[Anonymous No.23047028]

>>23046164
Hume or Engels.

[Anonymous No.23047191]

>>23040754

Why does he act like a midwit American conservative on Twitter, despite having such elaborate philosophical beliefs?

[Anonymous No.23047405]

>>23046164
The Terminator films

[Anonymous No.23047987]

Honestly I would rather have land have been forgotten and remained obscure. He was always misinterpreted a lot in the past even among people who should know better, but his work has now entered the normalfag counsciousness completely bastardized. I'm talking about the "e/acc" people. They just take the surface level aesthetics (they like saying technocapital a lot, accelerationism is when fast) among with common misinterpretations of his work (taking the technophilia at face value and not as a vehicle for the Outside, having zero understanding of deleuzian&g metaphysics or materialist psychiatry, when he says capitalism he is talking about the neo-lib economic system rather than an undefinable force, etc) with absolutely no clue about anything yet they are the most influencial this strain of thought has ever been. You have legions of retards identifying as accelerationist who don't even know who he is. Don't ask them about any other CCRU writers or even just the blog you'll be met with the fluoride stare.

[Anonymous No.23048340]

>>23043800
if you want a superficial understanding check out justin murphy's vids on meltdown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3M7p3hmVNM&list=PLo7qEJPyC_VPulxQYO817V-6pgldpv4VX)) and c.j. cala's vids on fanged noumena (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_E30OyNbHE&list=PLYcqM2Ojf48KH0ySxRThlEAW0DwWAsNKz).).

>>23046164
if you want a more in-depth understanding of land >>23042645 pretty much got it right.

[Anonymous No.23048345]

>>23040754
All I really know about this guy is that lib faggots used to be cool with him because he talks in a faggy nerd voice and uses big made up words and talks about nothing, but then he said black people commit crime or something and they disowned him. Just JK Rowling for the extremely online

[Anonymous No.23048359]

>>23046164
https://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/the-dark-enlightenment-by-nick-land/
for his later work

[Anonymous No.23048641]

>>23040796
psychopathic retards are based because they torment niggercattle like you

>>23040854
he's not smart enough to understand archaeogenetics so he settles for basic bitch HBD

[Anonymous No.23048654]

>>23042252
>multipolarity
incorrect, america is mexican and europe is brown/black, both spics and arabs/nigs are cucked to BRICS
the future is unipolarity masquerading as unipolarity

[Anonymous No.23048668]

>>23040926
>quantum computing a reality,
lol. lmao even

[Anonymous No.23048685]

>>23042645
>read nietzsche and some morons who say the exact opposite of nietzsche
lol
>>23048668
it literally is, though.
>>23040926
people will just plug themselves into the experience machine, wonder what will happen to anyone who won't

[Anonymous No.23049864]

what does he see in him?

[Anonymous No.23049951]

>>23049864
A useful idiot he can manipulate for lolz

[Anonymous No.23049982]

it just makes me wonder if he knows how to solve any problems at all, or how much he's being paid, or if he even needs to do anything at all

[Anonymous No.23050157]

>>23040812
he severed all previous ties and moved to Shanghai. i think he writes about bitcoin now

[Anonymous No.23050355]

>>23049864
Someone who can inadvertently help bring about human extinction.

[Anonymous No.23051045]

>>23040854
/lgbt/

[Anonymous No.23051066]

>>23040754
why did he go dark again he was making based tweets

[Anonymous No.23052176]

>>23049982
Why solve problems when bringing them to their logical conclusion brings about their transcendence?

[Anonymous No.23052206]

>>23040816
>>23045778
guy is 62 and still using edgy online handles like a 16 year old

[Anonymous No.23052243]

do you guys remember girardfag and does anyone have any archives of his posts/threads?

[Anonymous No.23052267]

>>23052176
i just want to know what China is paying him for, or more specifically what exactly he s getting up to given his past work. it's probably something scary, if you really think about it.

[Anonymous No.23052370]

>>23052267
Probably something like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=1HHfetsVwlU

[Anonymous No.23052811]

>>23052206
in these videos >>23048340 the dudes just seem gamer-brained and in the meltdown essay murphy quotes there's shit like:
>Meltdown has a place for you as a schizophrenic HIV+ transsexual chinese-latino stim-addicted LA hooker with implanted mirrorshades and a bad attitude. Blitzed on a polydrug mix of K-nova, synthetic serotonin, and female orgasm analogs, you have just iced three Turing cops with a highly cinematic 9mm automatic.

these IDW nerds like yarvin etc. just cannot stop talking about the matrix or lord of the rings and their idea of edgy is this kind of 90s cyberpunk shit (to be fair that essay is from the 90s but they still talk like this and think it's cool). very strange to have such a boring aesthetic for a potentially bizarre and dangerous ideology about how technology and capitalism combined are a literal cosmic vampire that feasts on human misery and if you can't beat 'em you might as well join 'em.

[Anonymous No.23052846]

>>23040816
can believe i thought this guy was an intellectual
lmao @ the trash he posts

[Anonymous No.23052901]

>>23052267
>>23052811
>>23052846
So... has anyone actually read his work? And I'm not talking about Meltdown, which he wrote in his 30s.

[Anonymous No.23052906]

>>23052901
i've read some of his blog posts

[Anonymous No.23052967]

>>23052846
source it's really him?

[Anonymous No.23053072]

>>23052967
It's in the video description of this interview. Presumably the host would have asked:
youtube.com/watch?v=YOCm_seYjC8

[Anonymous No.23054466]

>>23052811
What's the technical term for the aesthetic of Dune? It's probably a better fit for their ideas.

[Anonymous No.23054475]

>>23052206
that's what happens when you fry your brain with drugs during your formative years.

[Anonymous No.23054500]

>>23045257
He probably did that for money. I am going to try the French Quarter. A lot of white people hang out there. I saw a recent pic of him and he looks very old and grey haired with glasses.

[Anonymous No.23054502]

>>23048340
>recommending faggot youtuber nonsense on a literature board
Kill yourself, cunt. Honestly.

[Anonymous No.23054503]

>>23053072
Do people actually take this fucking clown seriously?

[Anonymous No.23054505]

>>23054503
deadly serious

[Anonymous No.23054508]

>>23051066
It's very very tiring being even moderately big with over a few thousand followers and being on Twitter. If you have mainstream views you'll get hate every day, but if you are anti-mainstream you'll be attacked with 100 times the volume from normies and radical SJWs alike. It is fucking exhausting and gets to people, changes them over time.

[Anonymous No.23054512]

>>23054505
Why? Why on earth?!

[Anonymous No.23054518]

>>23054512
seems sort of prescient with all the ai stuff that is happening, like he has insight about accelarationism that is getting more and more credible

[Anonymous No.23054522]

>>23040754
>fast cars?
>hot women?
>cool places he lived?

[Anonymous No.23054527]

>>23052267
He's not being paid for anything. Him and his wife both had university degrees so they were able to get work visas to teach English and they emigrated there. It's a comfortable middle class life. I know it doesn't sound romantic but he pretty much destroyed all of his credibility and ability to earn income in the Zionist controlled "Western" academic establishment. You do what you have to to survive.

[Anonymous No.23054543]

I bought Fanged Numemoeinfoanf like 8 years ago, I even took an hour long (one way) bus ride to the industrial outskirts of the city to pick it up from a depot after I missed the delivery.
Convince me to actually read it this year, my backlog is massive

[Anonymous No.23054547]

>>23052811
>strange to have such a boring aesthetic
It's literally been the "cool" aesthetic for the last five years or so heh. Music, fashion, games... Go outside, man.

[Anonymous No.23054551]

>>23054527
Prove he has a wife
>>23054518
AI is getting more advanced so considering 'capital' as a superintelligent God self-projecting itself into the present from the future through AI, or whatever fucking nonsense he spouts, make sense? Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.23054558]

>>23054551
yeah basically all of the ai industry, which is the most important technology in like 50 years and possibly ever, is accelerationists vs doomers, basically a paradigm invented by land

[Anonymous No.23054565]

>>23054551
>Prove he has a wife
I love that basedlennial and zoomers find the concept of wives so impossible that you have to "prove" someone has one. Newsflash retard: every Gen X and boomer who wasn't a faggot (and even then...) could get a wife even if they were broke, drug addicted losers.

[Anonymous No.23054569]

>>23054558
Such a paradigm was not 'invented' by Land. Any major technology throughout history had people who supported it's further development and those who didn't. Nick Land invented terms that have been butchered by normies. Most people who work in AI have not even heard of Nick Land.

[Anonymous No.23054571]

>>23054565
No it's that you have been continuously claiming that Nick Land has a wife for weeks and you have not once provided any evidence for it.

[Anonymous No.23054572]

>>23054569
well can you at least admit he was the first person to talk about the concept of accelerationism

[Anonymous No.23054581]

>>23054572
He wasn't and even he admits that. Accelerationism has its origin in Deleuzian schizobabble. Nick Land maybe formalized it and gave it clearer conceptual existence but he wasn't the first person to 'talk' about it.

[Anonymous No.23054583]

>>23054571
This is the first time I've posted in a Nick Land thread, and it's common knowledge he has a British wife. So you've been arguing with someone else.

[Anonymous No.23054589]

>>23054581
which deleuzian was first to talk about accelerationism? I know it wasn't delueze himself. it would be interesting to read the first people who used this term. Nick Land was certainly among the first. and if you look at the twitter handles of many ai researchers they have stuff like e/acc in it

[Anonymous No.23054598]

>>23054589
Deleuze and his boyfriend in Anti-Oedipus. Read it. e/acc is a normie vulgarization of Land's thought.

[Anonymous No.23054599]

>>23040754
Good goy! Discuss our operatives!

[Anonymous No.23054603]

>>23054598
ok I will read it!

[Anonymous No.23054646]

>>23052243
Same question, been looking for a while

[Anonymous No.23054649]

>>23052206
hes just like me

[Anonymous No.23055024]

>>23054522
He lived in the same town where Crowley was born. Don't know if this has anything to do with his alleged amphetamine psychosis or if that's purely coincidental.