/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.23032569]

How you, uh... How you coming on that novel you're working on, huh? Anon?

[Anonymous No.23032604]

>>23032569
I have 70 pages down but I lost my motivation due to being burned out from life. I can't even bear to look at it anymore.

[Anonymous No.23032624]

>>23032569
43,000 words in. There are some downright spectacular sentences, and some impressive structural flourishes, but it needs more editing than a Stephen King novel. Not going back until I'm not moving forwards, however.

[Anonymous No.23032626]

>>23032569
im gonna write a thesis or like an essay/anaylis, STEWIE, im not interested in writing fiction let along a novel bruv

[Anonymous No.23032642]

Cool whip

[Anonymous No.23032865]

>>23032624
post selections

[Anonymous No.23032903]

>>23032624
>>23032865
post excerpts, nigga

[Anonymous No.23032950]

>>23032569
My novel is too revolutionary, too close to divine truth to ever be bound by such limited human tools as language.

[Anonymous No.23033053]

>>23032865
>>23032903
Sorry, gents. I went back to grab a couple I knew were good and it turns out, unbeknownst to me, it's all dogshit

[Anonymous No.23033065]

>>23033053
lmao we all know that feel

[Anonymous No.23033079]

>>23032950
So useless in the human realm. Sick flex bro.

[Anonymous No.23033098]

>>23032569
it's fucking finished except for a few more details but the first 10 pages or 3 chapters or whatever are perfect. So I can send it to publishers. I've gone over it like twenty times or more. When I post excerpts here nobody talks even shit about it anymore. So read your damned emails and try to skim my book like it's more generic fantasy and you'll miss out

[Anonymous No.23033100]

>>23033065
Eh, it's still dog shit even if I don't show it to anyone, so I might as well.

Memories bleeding in and out. Prissy on the edge of the field in the summer before we went off to college. Standing there and watching lightning bugs, thousands of them, flashing rhythmically like a pulse of the universe—a twinkle in the eye of God. Arms wrapped around arms and collar bones, the first time the weight in the chest. Fireflies flashed like synapses remembering the flashes of fireflies. Across state, and resentful. The dim blue of night held just at bay by the iridescent scene. Night would end of course, it always did. The bloom whose petals nip. A kiss across the gentle nape of neck. Lemon chewy tart passed. Inseparable from the now. Omne verum vero consonant. All things are one, time, too. Past and future and infinite present. Avoid Stubb. Pacing across the room, the boulder between us. Or perhaps we are geological in nature, and that rock isn’t the space, but the connecting threads.

[Anonymous No.23033120]

>>23033100
Perhaps I'm a little biased because I really enjoy metaphysical musings in literature but I thought this was quite good.

[Anonymous No.23033153]

>>23033120
Thanks anon. The protag is in lit class horny and thinking about his ex as the teacher drones on about Moby dick

[Anonymous No.23033304]

>>23033100
>the first time the weight in the chest
what did he mean by this

[Anonymous No.23033311]

>>23032569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrF2uslN3Mo

[Anonymous No.23033314]

>How you uh, how you comin' on that novel you're working on? Huh? Gotta a big, uh, big stack of papers there? Gotta, gotta nice little story you're working on there? Your big novel you've been working on for three years? Huh? Gotta, gotta compelling protagonist? Yeah? Gotta obstacle for him to overcome? Huh? Little story brewing there? Working on, working on that for quite some time? Huh? Yeah, talking about that three years ago. Been working on that the whole time? Nice little narrative? Beginning, middle, and end? Some friends become enemies, some enemies become friends? At the end your main character is richer from the experience? Yeah? Yeah? No, no, you deserve some time off.

[Anonymous No.23033319]

>Oh I know it hurts now, but look at the bright side: you have some new material for that novel you've been writing. You know...the novel you've been workin' on? You know the the one, uh, you've been workin on for three years? You know the novel. Got somethin' new to write about now. You know? Maybe a, maybe a main character gets into a relationship and suffers a little heartbreak? Somethin' like what... what you've just been through? Draw from real life experience? Little, little heartbreak? You know? Work it into the story? Make the characters a little more three-dimensional? Little, uh, richer experience for the reader? Make those second hundred pages really keep the reader guessing what's going to happen? Some twists and turns? A little epilogue? Everybody learns that the hero's journey isn't always a happy one? Oh, I look forward to reading it.

[Anonymous No.23033555]

>>23033100
Books that read like this but more accessible to the average /lit/izen?

[Anonymous No.23033735]

>>23032865
53k words. It's my second to last draft and I'm closing in on the ending

[Anonymous No.23033774]

>>23033735
/lit/ has female writers??

[Anonymous No.23033779]

>>23033735
Your character sounds like a Mary sue

[Anonymous No.23033780]

>>23033774
I'm a guy I just like romance. It's dual pov so he checks her out at various points in the story.

[Anonymous No.23033789]

>>23033780
Oh...

Boner officially gone.

[Anonymous No.23033850]

>>23033100
it's not bad anon. keep writing

[Anonymous No.23033920]

>>23033780
Who are your favourite writers? (Besides Melville)

[Anonymous No.23033978]

>>23033789
He's a twink

[Anonymous No.23034053]

>>23032569
>novel
I do poetry and non-fiction because I'm not a woman or a homosexual.

[Anonymous No.23034063]

>>23034053
>poetry
>not a woman or homosexual
pick one

[Anonymous No.23034073]

>>23034063
you ever heard of this homer guy?

[Anonymous No.23034106]

>>23034073
that funny yellow man on tv

[Anonymous No.23034117]

>>23034063
He can be a poet and a heterosexual male until the day a woman or a homosexual produces a book of poems that isn't utter drivel about superficial nonsense.

[Anonymous No.23035194]

>>23033100
This is really good! I only have one note: instead of

>Night would end of course, it always did.

Try;

>Night would end of course. It always did.

I think it flows better like that.

[Anonymous No.23035220]

>>23035194
Seconded.

[Anonymous No.23035296]

>>23032569
Not great. Wrote a short novelette in june and decided to try editing myself, got bored at second chapter of five and haven't touched it since. Now I am jumping ship for another project but I've been documenting for a week already and I can see myself not even starting this one.
God, I want to kick my psychologist in the cunt.

[Anonymous No.23035328]

Got 400 pages of littered ideas, outlines, goals, and preemptive excerpts. No draft.

[Anonymous No.23035330]

>>23035328
This is what a journal is for anon.

[Anonymous No.23035339]

>>23035330
I get the feeling some of us could learn a lot from other anons like (you) about writing. Mind explaining your process?

[Anonymous No.23035338]

>>23033555
>>23033850
>>23035194
>>23035220
I guess I've been standing so close to the bricks, building it one by one, that I've forgotten to step back and look at the wall. There's an anxiety there that the focus on the minute won't pay off, and you'll be stuck with something unenjoyable. Thanks for challenging that, anons. Fingers crossed for finishing the first draft this year. I tell you, though, there's something special cooking.

[Anonymous No.23035345]

I’ve never tried my hand at writing any longer. The thought patterns do not exist and I am not going to charlatan my way into practice some abstruse formulation realisms

[Anonymous No.23035354]

I have not started the book yet, I am already forgetting ideas and storylines. I have forgotten the origins of my main character.

[Anonymous No.23035380]

>>23035330
? My problem won't be solved until I accept that my fantasies are better butchered in the imprecise precision of written text rather than sporadically feature in my mind with ineffable wonder.

[Anonymous No.23035561]

>>23035339
Your feeling is incorrect.

I am an amateur, unpublished, unambitious novelist who occasionally can scribble out a days worth of thoughts on a legal pad.

I don't have much to offer in the vein of advice, other then just to continue writing. Even if you think it's garbage, even if other people think it's garbage, just keep writing. You can never be too literate.

[Anonymous No.23035572]

>>23033735
Really nice, but seems too normal and mainstream. You seem to have very good delivery but still lack unique ideas to execute. Not to discourage you, but my personal view is that you should only write if you have something to say, that hasn't been said by anyone before, maybe if you continue writing you will eventually get there.

[Anonymous No.23035573]

>>23035572
>you should only write if you have something to say, that hasn't been said by anyone before

This is an insane belief to have. No one on the planet should be bothering to write if that was the case.

[Anonymous No.23035609]

>>23032569
I'm having troubles publishing it
t. self-publishing using Lulu

[Anonymous No.23035644]

>>23035573
>that hasn't been said by anyone before
That's too extreme but whatever you're saying should feel at least somewhat "fresh".
When you're a teenager the best strategy is to to emulate what's been done so success is doing something that feels like it fits whatever tradition we're following. At that point we're not really creating anything yet, we've just established the basic skills to start creating within the context given by that tradition.
Not saying this applies to your writing but the discussion just made me post this brainfart.

[Anonymous No.23035665]

finished 1st draft 140k words waiting for slow-ass betafags to finish reading it

[Anonymous No.23035707]

>>23035573
Do you know how many published books get bought. There's a tweet that is popular here about how 50% of published books only have 10 or 20 sales. You have got to standout. If you are going to write the same romance story about how a teenager fell in love or about some murder mystery or about some political intrigue, your book is going to be buried beneath the zeitgeist of relevant culture.

[Anonymous No.23035749]

>>23035707
There is an obvious difference between writing about a concept or narrative that is fresh and can be pioneered, and writing about something that NO ONE has ever pondered. Because the latter will never happen.

[Anonymous No.23035765]

>>23033735
I am the anon who wrote >>23035572. Maybe instead of telling a story about a traditional romance. Tell a story about an unconventional romance, btn a roastie and an incel, their struggles, their delusions and their different worldviews. This will be a fruitful challenge for your braincells, it will force you to think of things that you have never thought of before. You can make it a long term project, you can interview people, shadow them, etc. This sort of story is not only culturally relevant but one that will trigger a lot of people. You should always be aiming to make people angry or happy with your work. Make society cringe at its apparent hypocrisies, make the roastie aware of her delusions, not in a condescending way of course, but like a 90 yr old parent who is mature about their criticisms.

[Anonymous No.23035780]

I lack the skill, creativity and intelligence to write what I want to write about.

[Anonymous No.23035804]

>>23033100
>discount McCarthy

[Anonymous No.23035818]

>>23032569
I've been writing a revenge thriller about a war veteran who's returned home and has cause for revenge due to family tragedy that was caused by debts the father had due to gambling and being threatened by the local goons to cough up. It's not schlocky or over-the-top and I try my best to frame the story in a way that the reader can take as something that is happening and can happen in reality. He takes quite a while to get anywhere and you see his degradation in real time as he goes on a suicidal bender of carnage. I'd post some but I'm too self-conscious of it. I actually was in the military for a while but got discharged so a lot of my emotions go into the main character. I put a female love interest out of force of habit but realized she really bogs down the story and the flow and her addition is not necessary. I've tried to blur the lines between you sympathizing for the MC and the mafiosos he goes after. I've tried to strike a balance between rule of cool and palpable emotions that I want to relay to the reader.

[Anonymous No.23035859]

>>23032569
iiiii finished one page yesterday

[Anonymous No.23035957]

>>23032569
Anyone else feel and overwhelming urge to torture this character to death?

[Anonymous No.23035989]

>>23035818
why were u discharged?

[Anonymous No.23036116]

>>23035749
How do I know you have autism and have to be pedantic about everything.

[Anonymous No.23036140]

>>23032569
I finished it. 72k words. 1200 views.
I'm pretty happy.

[Anonymous No.23036148]

>>23034117
So forever?

[Anonymous No.23036511]

>>23032569
It's moving along slowly. Fruitful discussion and critique has become difficult because everyone is a webserial slopshitter racing towards the bottom these days. I mean, even genrefags had some standards. Other than that, I'm happy with what I have so far.

[Anonymous No.23036563]

>>23035194
>>23035220
>>23035338
it would actually be
>Night would end, of course. It always did.

[Anonymous No.23036639]

>>23032569
i have ~80k words of one novel and ~85k of another, both about halfway done, both absolutely 100% unpublishable because of their, uh, content. all my "normal" projects, that i could maybe show to another human being, just stall hopelessly within the first 5-10k words. i'm fucked

[Anonymous No.23036660]

>>23036511
Faggotry or right wing faggotry? I'm writing some shit that's way to oliterary to be porn and not romantic enough to be romance, so I have no idea who it's for.

[Anonymous No.23036664]

>>23032569
Finished my first draft a few weeks ago. Letting the dust settle.

[Anonymous No.23036669]

>>23036660
for >>23036639

[Anonymous No.23036706]

>>23036669
>Faggotry or right wing faggotry?
fucking everything all at once lol. not overtly political, but, like, socially unacceptable in 17 ways

[Anonymous No.23036872]

I'm a significantly better writer than artist (which isn't to imply I'm a great writer) but I also believe a mix of art and written word would be more appealing than just words words words.

[Anonymous No.23036886]

>>23036872
Me too, but artists (drawers) are unbelievably lazy.
>be me
>18
>writing comic scripts for my cousin to draw
>I'd write little 5-10 page stories
>he'd love them
>draw a page and a half
>get bored with it, go do something else
they're fickle, they got no sticktoitiveness

[Anonymous No.23037092]

>3 and 1/6 chapters written
>72000 words
Oh, it's coming along, I'd say

>>23036140
Drop the link

>>23036872
That's exactly my thought process. I've always liked the idea of chapter-by-chapter illustrations and similar shit like pic rel, so I've been trying to learn /ic/ skills along the way to become my very own draftsman

[Anonymous No.23037176]

>>23032626
You'll never be read.

[Anonymous No.23037180]

>>23032569
I finished it five years ago. Editing since then

[Anonymous No.23037185]

>>23036664
>Letting the dust settle.
Clean your room, bucko.

[Anonymous No.23038410]

>>23032569
Too busy writing my screenplay desu

[Anonymous No.23038820]

>>23036886
where's your comic then?

[Anonymous No.23039074]

>>23038820
It remains an unpublished script, because my artist was a lazy faggot. Try reading the post before you reply next time.

[Anonymous No.23040351]

>>23035804
That's interesting. I read two of his books in high school years back, thought they were just fine, and never picked him up again. Never had the desire. Maybe it's time

[Anonymous No.23040694]

>>23040351
Who are your favourite writers?

[Anonymous No.23040784]

>>23040694
I've been reading a long time... For a more general answer, I'd need a genre/country/time period to pick from. That said, in the passage I left, which I wrote about 3 to 4 years ago as it's at the beginning of the novel, contained a lot of love for Melville, Emerson, and Joyce. I DO love those authors, but they mainly fit within the thematic ideas for the chapter, and other authors receive equal love across different parts of the book. If you want a list of the novels that, at one time, held the position for my favorite, I'm happy to post it.

>Castle in the Attic
>Mechanique: the Tale of the Circus Tresaulti
>Into the wild
>The Death of Ivan Ilych
>Grapes of Wrath
>On the Road
>The Sound and the Fury
>Raise High the Roofbeams, Carpenters and Seymour: an introduction
>Ulysses

There are some I missed, I'm sure, but that's a small list of favorites.

[Anonymous No.23040800]

>>23032569
starting tomorrow

[Anonymous No.23041423]

>>23040784
I figured Melville would be a favourite going off your excerpt. It's a bit odd that there aren't any french, german or continental European works(excluding the one novel). Do you have reservations about translated works? Haven't read anything by Joyce except for a few short stories. I'm a bit wary I'll miss most of the references besides getting filtered by the experimental style he employs in his longer works. The most experimental novel I've read so far is The Third Policeman and maybe Jakob von Gunten. Otherwise it's mostly realist fiction with a smattering of philosophy and the odd gothic or victorian novel. I'd like to branch into sci-fi/fantasy but I don't really know where to start. By the by, how long have you been writing? How did you get started? I've been meaning to get into the habit but I'm just no good at it. Can't even stand my journal entries.
.

[Anonymous No.23041490]

>>23041423
I've read translated works by a smattering of authors, but nowadays, especially considering how much I employ the use of specific quirks of language, I tend to avoid them. There's just so much I have to read in English first. I started writing when I was 16, and I'm about 26 now. All of my early work is shit. There are probably 3 or 4 dozen short stories, and more than a few failed novel attempts. Actually, one short story was accepted for publication back when I was 21 but I stopped trying for other stories. It seems backwards, and when I finish my novel, it's going online for free. I was very bad at the start, but Ive always deluded myself into thinking I'm great in the moment, and that I have the capability to write stuff no other person alive could write. It's probably not true, but I'm going to fight for all I'm worth to make it true. If I fail? So be it. At least I'll have dedicated myself to something that offered plenty of value along the way

[Anonymous No.23041775]

I wish I had the skill to write a novel.

[Anonymous No.23041806]

>>23041775
if only it was possible to develop skills somehow

[Anonymous No.23041849]

>>23041806
writing is a talent you're born with

[Anonymous No.23041859]

>>23041849
language is imitative you cretin. the shit you people tell yourselves to never do any work

[Anonymous No.23041867]

>>23033555
A Million Little Pieces

[Anonymous No.23043184]

>>23041775
How seeming becomes being: Ultimately, not even the deepest pain can keep the actor from thinking of the impression of his part and the overall theatrical effect, not even, for example, at his child's funeral.20 He will be his own audience, and cry about his own pain as he expresses it. The hypocrite who always plays one and the same role finally ceases to be a hypocrite. Priests, for example, who are usually conscious or unconscious hypocrites when they are young men, finally end by becoming natural, and then they really are priests, with no affectation. Or if the father does not get that far, perhaps the son, using his father's headway, inherits the habit. If someone wants to seem to be something, stubbornly and for a long time, he eventually finds it hard to be anything else. The profession of almost every man, even the artist, begins with hypocrisy, as he imitates from the outside, copies what is effective. The man who always wears the mask of a friendly countenance eventually has to gain power over benevolent moods without which the expression of friendliness cannot be forced--and eventually then these moods gain power over him, and he is benevolent.

[Anonymous No.23043753]

>>23032569
Best gag in the show

[Anonymous No.23043866]

>>23032569
Pretty good. I just want it to be a novella. Science fiction, some comedic moments. 30k words, I'll wrap it up around 60k.

[Anonymous No.23043885]

>>23032569
I've been putting a little effort into my schizo shitposts, and they've been getting consistent (You)'s, so you could say things are going quite well.

[Anonymous No.23043956]

>>23043184
Where's this from?

[Anonymous No.23043960]

>>23032569
3rd book almost done, working on it since 4 AM this morning.

[Anonymous No.23043964]

>>23033100
Keep at it, easy as

[Anonymous No.23043983]

>>23032569
i’ve been working on an anthology horror book that i ideally want to publish in the coming months. i was just going to put it out on amazon, but i’ve learned that marketing is a lot more important than i initially thought. do any anons have any ideas/tips for this? my friend recommended posting stories on wattpad which i was unfamiliar with, and after browsing the site for a little i’m not sure that’s the right avenue

[Anonymous No.23043987]

>>23043983
i should clarify he recommended wattpad as a way to gain an audience before publishing my book, not publishing my book on wattpad

[Anonymous No.23043990]

>>23035989
I won't get into it but let's just say I didn't have the mental constitution at that time to go on serving so I got a medical discharge. I'm trying to write this book and maybe get it published while working at a chop shop and if it doesn't pan out, I'm re-enlisting because writing has helped me get my brain back to what it was. It's such a bitch, being in the army. You hate it there but you only realize what you valued in it after you've left. I've got no purpose here or any kind of lifestyle I am content with. The strict regiment and order back there made sense to me and I feel like half a human after leaving, even with wanting to leave. Thank you for inquiring.

[Anonymous No.23044017]

>>23032569
every single scene i write becomes a sex scene

[Anonymous No.23044163]

>>23044017
Post one

[Anonymous No.23044195]

>>23035957
more like you'll be tortured to death by him after he puts you on a list
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eQ3SWFy57dw

[Anonymous No.23044234]

>>23044163
John pulled down his workman weathered jeans, now fully nude, the bedroom dark but the light of the bedside lamp casting a soft glow on his coffee colored body. Sarah breathed in heavy, laying down the bed.

“Ravish me with your moor cock”, Sarah said, her white, flushed pussy quivering.

John obliged, his body meeting hers like coffee meets cream.

[Anonymous No.23044272]

>>23044234
That's hilariously terrible. Would read more.

[Anonymous No.23044443]

>>23044234
>like coffee meets cream
Kek. It's not great, but it's unique, I'll give you that

[Anonymous No.23044645]

>>23032569
Doing preparation work, filled about 2/3 of a notebook with notes which made me realize I'm overfocusing on plot and not enough on theme or character.

[Anonymous No.23044653]

>>23044645
>Doing preparation work
I prefer to just fly by the seat of my pants and see what comes out.

[Anonymous No.23044659]

>>23044234
>her white, flushed pussy
If it's flushed it wouldn't be white now, would it?
>quivering
Is it a vulva or a bowl of jello?

[Anonymous No.23044788]

>>23044234
>>23044272
>>23044443
>>23044659
john & sarah part 2 as requested

John lay limp like a dead dog next to Sarah, his chest heaving as he eyed the ceiling. He began to rise up, removing Sarah’s arm which rested on his chest

“Hm? You’re not gonna stay and cuddle?”, Sarah said with a half smile.

John put on his workman jeans, in the way a true workman would.

“I gotta head back to work now, Lenny’s gonna bust a vain if I’m late again.”

John said that, but in reality his heart felt dirtier than the asscheeks of an obese woman, John trying not to look at the framed photo of Sarah and her husband Rabbi Lieberman that sat on the desk, judging him like the eyes of God.

[Anonymous No.23044799]

>>23044653
I just grind to a halt after a few sentences whenever I try tackling it without a plan.

[Anonymous No.23044811]

>>23044788
It was less funny the second time around

[Anonymous No.23044821]

>>23044799
Don't you have the "movie scenes" of your book inside your head as a short "video" of the scenes you've dreamed of?

[Anonymous No.23044824]

>>23044811
i see, seems i tried too hard this time around. my rise and fall as an author was fast, but i’m glad i had the experience

[Anonymous No.23044828]

>>23044788
>limp like a dead dog
Dead dogs lie stiff, not limp
>his chest heaving as he eyed the ceiling
Why does eyeing the ceiling make his chest heave?
>John put on his workman jeans, in the way a true workman would.
What's with you and the workman jeans?
In what way does a true workman put on his workman jeans different to a false workman, or even a non-workman?
>heart felt dirtier
Dude's about to die of a myocardium infection?
>asscheeks of an obese woman
It is the assCRACK that is dirty
>John trying not to look at the framed photo of Sarah and her husband Rabbi Lieberman that sat on the desk, judging him like the eyes of God
Why is the picture on the desk? Who is judging john? Sarah, Rabbi Lieberman, or the picture itself?

[Anonymous No.23044854]

>>23044828
i’ve read your criticism and taken it to heart. i will return later with the most prestigious erotica you’ve ever read

[Anonymous No.23044876]

>>23044821
Sort of, but I like approaching it in a general-to-specific way. When thinking about a piece of the story (be it a chapter, scene, character moment or interaction) I want to figure out what purpose does it have and how does it fit within the whole. Then I go into the specifics of what really needs to happen in that scene or dialogue.
When I try writing without a roadmap I tend to meander about and get lost with over intricate descriptions or idle dialogue until the words just stop coming out.

[Anonymous No.23044888]

>>23044788
>John put on his workman jeans, in the way a true workman would.
this is fucking gold, I can't get enough

[Anonymous No.23044908]

>>23044876
Interesting... I tend to just lie on my couch with my eyes closed and just envision the book as a movie, and I see and hear the scenes of the book unfold. Sometimes it is shit, sometimes it is wonderful, but the only way I write is if I imagine the book as a movie.

[Anonymous No.23045000]

>>23044908
Sounds like you should be writing scripts, anon. Nothing about your process necessitates language as the communicative form. If you're writing a book a movie, just write the movie. Or, if you're committed to the book, focus on language

[Anonymous No.23045008]

>>23045000
Oh yeah anon, what a fucking amazing idea, so those fucking scripts will sit in my hard drive doing nothing because I'm not a fucking small hat and have zero chance of ever actually getting a movie produced, you fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.23045016]

>>23044828
>>his chest heaving as he eyed the ceiling
>Why does eyeing the ceiling make his chest heave?
isn't this correct thoughever, his chest was heaving at the same time as he was eyeing the ceiling

[Anonymous No.23045332]

>>23045008
Your book isn't getting published either, anon. You might as well create the thing in your head instead of trying to shoehorn it into a form that you've convinced yourself is more feasible. What a sham of an artist you are. Give up

[Anonymous No.23045334]

>>23045332
Already published two books faggot, soon my 3rd one and a poetry collection. Where's your work?

[Anonymous No.23045341]

I'm worried it's becoming a rambling webnovel soap opera, but I also don't mind writing a sequel as much as I do mind carrying the only good story or two on for longer than they absolutely need to be.

[Anonymous No.23045349]

>>23045334
Published as well you massive tool, only my stuff is respected by academia, and not novelized movies that will live in die in the span of 6 months. You're a fraud, please give up and stop polluting the artistic pool

[Anonymous No.23045351]

>>23045349
Post your published works! I would love to see what quality work you've done!

[Anonymous No.23045364]

>>23035765
>>23033735
dont do that, execution is everything.
it dosent need to be noel to be liked, it just needs to be new enough that people dont feel like its pointless to read, and given the current vibe, it could work if you just made it take place in the fantasty third reich, or some other mild change to the world building

[Anonymous No.23045418]

>>23045351
I will if you have homo

[Anonymous No.23045458]

>>23045418
?

[Anonymous No.23045490]

>>23045458
Post. Your. Shitty. Thoughtless. Normie. Books.

Homo.

[Anonymous No.23045508]

>>23045490
https://www.amazon.ca/City-Singles-Jason-Bryan/dp/0991825705

City of Singles accurately predicted the future of dating where serial monogamy and hooking up is a vicious cycle that leads nowhere. Birth rates have plummeted, we've witnessed the rise of incels, and there have never been more hopelessly single people than ever before. Jason Bryan was right.

https://www.amazon.ca/Shitkickers-Jason-Bryan-ebook/dp/B0BZXY9HLV

The Shitkickers, predicting a more corrupt, more crime-ridden future as policing becomes more of a joke designed to punish victims than put bad guys behind bars. A book about manipulation, corruption, and one man's flawed battle against the crime in his hometown.

Let's see your books?

[Anonymous No.23045520]

>>23045508
>Self published
>Free
You're not published, anon. You have a blog. And according to the reviews, a very bad one

[Anonymous No.23045525]

>>23045508
>An easy and entertaining read. Very descriptive, and sexy - like if 50 Shades of Grey were written by a man.
Ayyy

[Anonymous No.23045609]

>>23044828
>>23044854
here’s the sophisticated, serious version, anon. i’m sorry my juvenile tastes weren’t to your liking. i will post chapter 2 shortly
Chapter 1: Headed West
The Seattle rain had lessened somewhat by the time John pulled up in front of Sarah’s, a now gentle chatter which tapped against the pavement. John looked at Sarah’s one story, small but cozy suburban house, clone houses lined up besides it for blocks.

John was originally from Seattle, but hadn’t been back in well over a decade, his father, Larry, taking the family east towards Wisconsin after the 2000s recession, Larry landing a job as a steelworker at a old friend’s company. John was distraught at first, for a long while even, but as all things subjected to time, the angst faded. By the time John was eighteen, Seattle was a distant memory, something you only think of when looking through old photographs.

John had recently dropped out of college, after his first semester. He didn’t know why, but he felt no passion or true inclination towards any field. A nebulous lethargy had taken hold within him, and seemed to deepen its roots with every passing year. Shortly after dropping out, Fred, John’s best friend from middle school, had hit him up with a job as a moving man for the elderly. He would have to relocate to Seattle though for the time being. John said okay, and a few weeks later was on a plane west towards the Emerald City

[Anonymous No.23045613]

>>23045525
>>23045520
Waiting to see your trad pubbed books that the academics love!

[Anonymous No.23045626]

>>23045613
You have to post the books that were published, first! From what I can tell, you haven't been published.

[Anonymous No.23045639]

>>23045626
Let's see your work... unless you're ashamed of it?

[Anonymous No.23045653]

>>23045639
Yes, let me risk my reputation in the scene to impress a shitty, self published writer who's one review is tearing it to pieces for being shit. Jesus Christ. I can't believe I called it from the get-go. You shouldn't be writing novels

[Anonymous No.23045671]

>>23045653
>he doesn't write

[Anonymous No.23045728]

bump. this thread is pretty good, from anons who have “published” shit; to anons who can’t write at all, to anons who are writing joke material that’s actually kinda decent

[Anonymous No.23045760]

going awful, i thought i was a writer and now im taking science and math classes for a STEM degree lmao

[Anonymous No.23045815]

>>23045609
It's alright, in terms of prose I see you use character names too often, and some of your sentences can be compressed.
For example, in the first paragraph:
>The Seattle rain had lessened somewhat by the time John pulled up in front of Sarah’s, a now gentle chatter which tapped against the pavement.
The Seattle rain had lessened into a gentle chatter by the time John pulled up in front of Sarah’s
>John looked at Sarah’s one story, small but cozy suburban house, clone houses lined up besides it for blocks.
The small, cozy suburban home stood unremarkable among a line of identical clones.

That aside, the next two paragraphs are a bunch of exposition that I would cut entirely. Delay the delivery of that information until it is necessary.
Why is the motive of his family moving out important to the story? Why is it important that the reader know about it by the second paragraph?
The bit about him dropping out and getting a new job is relevant to him being back in Seattle, but then again, do we need to know about it RIGHT now?

>A nebulous lethargy had taken hold within him, and seemed to deepen its roots with every passing year. Shortly after dropping out...
Small inconsistency here, you said he RECENTLY dropped out of college, and the phrasing makes it seem that that was the point where his lethargy stated. You then say it deepened with every passing year (implying multiple years have passed, two at the very least), only to follow it with "shortly after dropping out"

The beginning of your story should be an introduction of the characters and the situation they are CURRENTLY in. Before dumping your protagonist's backstory on the reader you need to incite their curiosity about it.

[Anonymous No.23045847]

>>23045760
>TFW have to finish my master's thesis and come up with a doctorate project
>at the same time want to do a graphic novel
I dedicate the first an a half hour after waking up to working on the story and two hours after work to drawing practice
WAGMI

[Anonymous No.23045911]

>>23045847
>I dedicate the first an a half hour
sheesh, best wishes to you, i lack the discipline but at the end of the day that's just an excuse. how far along is the graphic novel?

[Anonymous No.23045981]

>>23045911
>i lack the discipline
I don't think it's a matter of discipline. I'm "hooked" with the project + I tap out early every day to avoid burning out and leave myself wanting to get more done.
>how far along is the graphic novel?
Not very. I have the general silhouette of the story more or less figured out, and I know where I want to take most of the characters. There is one major problem in that I've yet to fully define the central Idea of the story (this is actually a huge issue that I'm going to spend the next couple of weeks figuring out).
On the 'graphic' front I've still got a long way to go. Pic related is where I'm currently at skill-wise. Plus there is a bunch of stuff specific to comics and graphic novels that I've yet to master.
It's a pretty daunting project and it's still years away before it's complete (there's also a very real chance that I drop it halfway), but I'm genuinely enjoying every aspect of the process.

[Anonymous No.23046064]

>>23032569
I’ve finished 2 320 page drafts. I’m currently sending chapters out to beta readers. Mostly positive feedback, but I think this final revision requires that I simplify further.

[Anonymous No.23046072]

>>23046064
Hopefully. 230-280 is a decent novel. Things have been overblown for faggy reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the work, at least not compared to the doorstopper norm and the fruits of that.

[Anonymous No.23046074]

>>23032569
Is 23 too late to become an author, assuming I've done very little writing at all?

[Anonymous No.23046077]

>>23046074
Yeah, it's too late. I started writing original fiction at 14 and still haven't made it 20 years later.

[Anonymous No.23046098]

>>23046074
Waaaaay too old.
>ngmi

[Anonymous No.23046197]

>>23045671
>He just writes better than you

[Anonymous No.23046214]

>>23046197
>nobody would know because he doesn't have the balls to post his work

[Anonymous No.23046285]

>>23046214
>Nobody
Just nobody in your world buddy

[Anonymous No.23046287]

>>23046285
>post work if you are proud of your creations

[Anonymous No.23046308]

>>23046074
depends on how many books you've read.

[Anonymous No.23046310]

>>23046308
Let's say 150 classics.

[Anonymous No.23046318]

I have three whole books in my head and I could likely write one of them out in 4-6 months if I started right now. The two books that are likely to ever get done are in a somewhat grounded setting, one has an emphasis on horror and the other has a offbeat theme of nilhisim for a lack of a better description. The one that is least likely to ever be finished however is just pure fantasy, I could turn this into a whole omnibus if I ever decide to get on top of it, but I feel like it would be easy for the setting and plot to get way out of hand for me.

[Anonymous No.23046326]

>>23046318
Use the notepad method and you'll finish your book in a month.

[Anonymous No.23046336]

I've written only about one thing which reached above 10,000 words but I realised I don't really have a vision for it nor a compelling reason to like the characters. I only had a good idea for one character on what he should do but I can't really convey why the believes the things he does or why anybody should care about what he believes. It's supposed to be some post-apocalypse far in the future where future technology does exist but it's so rare that only the rich and powerful can get a hand on it, otherwise for 99% of the population they live basically identical to medieval peasants. The plot is focused around one of the few major cities in their part of the world ruled by 7 Tyrants who each rule a part of the city for themselves and one Tyrant along with his supporters wishes to restore the Sultanate with himself as the Sultan. The characters being one of the Tyrants who sits at the top of the world in wealth and power, second being a bureaucrat working for a different Tyrant who's supposed to be the 'middle class' and the third being a Pilgrim who is completely new to the city. All of them get caught up in the coup and it's consequences.

I've only written anything for the Tyrant character and his plot is basically galivanting around on campaign outside of the city until he and another Tyrant learn of the coup and rush back to the city in an attempt to stop it but they are too late and have to deal with it somehow.

[Anonymous No.23046340]

>>23046336
Have you ever worked in a corporate environment?

[Anonymous No.23046352]

>>23046340
No sir

[Anonymous No.23046395]

>>23046352
>ruled by 7 Tyrants who each rule a part of the city for themselves and one Tyrant along with his supporters wishes to restore the Sultanate with himself as the Sultan.
Bruh... I mean this with 100% sincerity... if you want to write this book, you need to work in a corporate environment... something competitive... something where if you produce better results than your boss that your ass will get fired because your boss will freak the fuck out that you're too good. This is 100% real in the corporate world... you can't be too good of a worker and suggest things to make improvements to the CEO because if you're just a worker, middle management will destroy you for making them look stupid.

[Anonymous No.23046467]

>>23046395
This isn’t exactly like a corporate environment. They are seven different functionally absolute monarchs who usually work in cooperation with each other all with different power bases, courts and military capability of their own. The people that serve under them are bound to them as a servant to a King bound by ties of loyalty, prestige and reward. As long as they are not outrageously terrible they functionally have all the power and all the freedom to do as they will. That would be more true for the second character but he’s also not capable of controlling affairs and he exists to see inside the city and attempt to survive the world around him which he has no agency in controlling

[Anonymous No.23046515]

>>23045815
thanks for the critique, anon. genuinely. i have noticed that exposition is quite frequent in my writing, and my prose is sometimes over descriptive

[Anonymous No.23046531]

>>23046515
Always remember: less is more, in late out early, keep em guessing and make them ask before you tell them.
Be like a sadistic asshole holding a piece of meat over a hungry puppy.

[Anonymous No.23046597]

>>23043990
i hope you find your place

[Anonymous No.23046613]

It's working out well
Once I master French I will read all the major realist and naturalist novelists
Afterwards I will learn Old Norse and read all of the extant sagas
Then I will begin to write my realist novels set in Medieval Iceland

[Anonymous No.23046617]

>>23046467
My apologies, I was just suggesting you work in an environment with multiple hierarchies to see how much these fucking corporate crabs claw each other, super eye-opening

[Anonymous No.23046625]

>>23046074
>Is 23 too late
You're a fucking baby. 23 isn't too late to do anything. Stop being a faggot.

[Anonymous No.23046892]

>>23046326
what is the notepad method?

[Anonymous No.23047055]

>I'd like one discussion about the latest modernist novel I read, with a follow up thread about the last poet whose oeuvre I've completed
>We argue about trannies here, sir

[Anonymous No.23047065]

>>23047055
NIGGA DID I JUST CATCH YOU READIN'?

[Anonymous No.23047072]

>>23046892
The extreme basic explanation of it is that you write the last sentence of your current project in it to remind you where you are, or, you write the current situation your mc is in, if you haven't already been able to brainstorm it, and that notepad, you leave in your kitchen on the stove or whatever. Or leave it on your keyboard. Make it visible in your space so when you have to go do some stuff, when you come back to your house or back into the room, the notepad is staring you in the face.

That is the 1st step of the notebook method and its most basic way of keeping you motivated.

[Anonymous No.23047077]

>>23032569
Should be done with the first draft before summer. Wont need extensive rewrites because it's just a comedy. I'll be sending it out to agents by July hopefully.

[Anonymous No.23047086]

>>23033100
This actually isn’t bad but it sure is gay.

[Anonymous No.23047089]

>>23033304
He talking about her boobies

[Anonymous No.23047094]

>>23033735
This is the gayest shit I have ever read

[Anonymous No.23047200]

Never thought I would write again after last summer. Then:
>Last friday managed to write a chunk of 150 words
>This monday wrote another 500-word chunk, unconnected but related to the previous chunk
>On tuesday I began to take note of possible ideas
>Yesterday wrote another unconnected but related part of 2000 words
I don't think I'll manage to write today. Should I spend my free time elaboraring further on my previous ideas and doing some research?