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I love Greek Mythology so much its unreal

>> No.23026500

I think mythology is boring.

>> No.23026502

>>23026498
Why. It's just a bunch of shitty Marvel tier stories where the "gods" act like retarded children and nothing makes sense. In 2000 years are we gonna see people worshipping batman comics and talknig about how deep it is just cause its old.

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>>23026498
Same...

...move over, bitch. Im the new Quang.

>> No.23026510

>>23026502
Seeing as people aren't anywhere near worshipping Batman after 100 years I don't see it ever happening.

>> No.23026512

>>23026502
>It's just a bunch of shitty Marvel tier stories
Jason and the Argonauts was just the ancient version of the Avengers

>> No.23026513

>>23026502
this is quite a stupid take

>> No.23026522

>>23026502
This is the uneducated retard's take on mythology. Hopefully nobody could actually be this stupid and it's just bait. But just in case, I'll bite. Read some anthropology and psychology. Joseph Campbell on primitive mythology, Carl Jung on myth and archetypes, etc.

>> No.23026585
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>>23026522
People who think Greek literature is just a marvel movie haven't read Greek literature.

>> No.23026642

>>23026498
It's amazing how clearly you can see the resentment and ill-intent throught that statue. The original monster-slaying hero is gone and replaced with a spiteful girl, which is almost funny.

>> No.23026781

>>23026642
The girl is also deliberately made ugly while the original statue made Perseus otherworldly and perfect.

>> No.23026833

>>23026642
>>23026781
>noooo you can't make fan fiction for my mcu, it's not canon!!!!

>> No.23026852

>>23026833
Anon, who are you even quoting?
The original statue reflected an idealized hero holding high the head of a monster, while this bootleg version not just inverts the roles, but actually turns the former heroic spirit into plain resentment.

>> No.23026856

>>23026498
I don't. I was expecting to find some sort of deep and relatable archetypal truths but it's mostly just gibberish >>23026502

>>23026585
Greek literature is different from their mythology/ religion, which was mostly retarded.

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>>23026498
Why are women depicted as "chaos" in mythology?
>Gods want to punish Man for obtaining fire
>Did they prevent their crops from growing?
>Did Zeus smith them with his thunderbolts?
>Did they spread despise and plague?
>Did they simply wipe Man from existence?
>No they just created one single woman
Kinda funny ngl

>> No.23026863

>>23026860
*smite them
Fuck me

>> No.23026866

>>23026860
Pandora is the one who brings the chaos, not the chaos itself.

>> No.23026870

Every word I type reveals clues about my nature, influences, history and random things about the world I inhabit.
When Gordon Ramsey Jr won the great battle of Iowa in 2059 and famously said to the Amish general "why so serious?" there was a deeper meaning to it, he was referencing a theatrical character named Joker from an old play called Batman.

>> No.23026889

>>23026852
She looks like a boss bitch and perseus looks like a sad little cuck, what you yapping about?

>> No.23026894

>>23026870
Lmao

>> No.23026896

>>23026889
No, she looks like a resentful murderer and lacks any of the heroic qualities of the original.

>> No.23026899

>>23026896
>me when the statue of a guy poses with the head of his conquered enemy and his peener hanging out
how heroic!
>me when the statue of a woman poses with the head of her conquered enemy with her titties hanging out
murderous wench!

>> No.23026915

>>23026896
That's because she's the villain lmao, how do you not know this?

>> No.23026917

>>23026899
Anon, you are not making any sense. Who even brought up nudity into this question? The fact is that in the original piece a highly idealized hero is holding high the severed head of a monster, showing it with pride, while in the new one a fairly average girl is almost slouched, holding the head down and with a spiteful expression in her features.

>> No.23026918

This thread has made me extremely concerned for the future of /lit/

>> No.23026922

>>23026917
Because it's not just a gender swap, it's what if Medusa won", why would she strike the exact same pose as perseus that would be retarded

>> No.23026923

>>23026899
The original statue is beautiful and cast from bronze. The other statue is made from plastic and looks ugly.

Pretty = good
Ugly = bad

>> No.23026927
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>>23026923
Yeah I can see why YOU might like this one a bit better

>> No.23026928

>>23026917
>Anon, you are not making any sense.
Because you're talking to a woman and/or feminist.

>> No.23026929

>>23026923
>Pretty = good
>Ugly = bad
This is the truest thing I have read in the thread

>> No.23026931

>>23026915
>>23026915
The statue was made by an argie artist as an inversion of the original with the plain intention of turning her into a victim, and considered Perseus just the last man to abuse her just to "look cool".

https://trirec.blogs.uv.es/medusa-garbati/

Stop being dishonest and accept this is plain resentful victimism at display, and rooting for the monster on top of it.

>> No.23026933

>>23026498
why does it look like a sack of potatoes

>> No.23026938

>>23026931
>it's not canon, that's not how it happened in the story at all!
>this is unjust for perseus!

>> No.23026947

>>23026856
>Greek literature is different from their mythology/ religion
outed as a midwit

>> No.23026948

>>23026938
I see 0 arguments. This statue, admited by its own creator, is a work of resentful victimism that roots for a mythological monster. The inversion of roles brings nothing positive and far from it promotes un-heroic spite that the artist unironically relates to the #MeToo movement.

No one is complaining about "canon".

>> No.23026962

>>23026948
>artist presents an alternative take on a story that has been in the public domain for millenia
>she is making a mockery of perseus struggle!
You clutch more pearls than these hoes do jesus

>> No.23026964

>>23026948
Women can’t create anything that doesn’t revolve around being a victim, all because some guy with coke bottle glasses and a pocket protector said hi to them in a public place.

>> No.23026967

>>23026962
From a propaganda perspective if you support patriarchy you obviously want pro-patriarchy art. This is anti-patriarchy.

>> No.23026968

>>23026899
Women cannot be heroic, only men can.

>> No.23026969

>>23026962
Who brought up canonicity? Who brought up "mocking" Perseus? What are you even talking about? The entire critique is focused on the values the piece is meant to promote.

>> No.23026972

>>23026967
>dude you can only appreciate art that furthers your political ideals!

>> No.23026975

>>23026969
You're crying that the artist has made medusa the victor in her own art because "actually she's a monster in the real story, you're glorifying a monster!". Or am I supposed to not think it's a cool looking statue with an interesting idea because it supports her dumb feminist ideas.

>> No.23026976

>>23026860
Chaos is simultaneously associated with birth and death, both archetypically feminine domains.

>> No.23026992

>>23026975
1-The artist is a man, you dummy. His name is Luciano.
2-It doesn't look cool.
3-Anon, my entire point is not that the statue "violates canon", or the stupid strawmen you attempt to pass as arguments. My point is that the statue was made with the plain objective of idealizing a mythological monster out of spite and resentment, meant to embody the spirit of the #MeToo movement because according to him Medusa is just a victim and Perseus a dummy arrogant man. If you don't see the problem with these childlish ideas I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.23026997

>>23026992
My responses:
It does look cool.
>noooo you can't make perseus look like a monster and medusa a victim, that's the opposite of the real story! that's just not right!

>> No.23027005

>>23026997
>promoting un-heroic victimism and resentment is good!

>> No.23027007

>>23026502
>a bunch of hacks vaguely copy mythology and other mainstream stories for their low quality Marvel comics
>now people compare this watered down garbage to everything else

>> No.23027019

>>23027007
There's a certain power to that. It's like "look how childish your myths look when I strip from them the veneer of ancient knowledge from a great civilization"

>> No.23027037

>>23026972
>>23026899
>>23026889
>>23026833
>>23026997
We get it. You're into femdom. Just go to the gym.

>> No.23027041

>>23027037
I just went

>> No.23027043

>>23026498
>I like /gaylit/

>> No.23027050
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23027050

>Views everythjng through the lens of pop culture
Your mind is ruined.

>> No.23027056

>>23026502
>2,000 years
Do you think we're gonna make it that long?

>> No.23027071

>>23027041
Must be a case of low T if even gym pump doesn't get you to stop wanting to be submissive to women

>> No.23027076

>>23026498
Do you like translations that are closer to original - akin to poetry? Or more a novelization?

>> No.23027081

>>23027056
We're gonna make it, bros

>> No.23027088 [DELETED] 
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>>23026498
>western interpretations of greek mythological figures
cringe
>eastern interpretations of greek mythological figures
based

>> No.23027093

>>23026502
>shitty Marvel tier
You are a dimwit. ESL. Low IQ.

>> No.23027101

>>23027071
Fr fr I can go lift for 3 hours straight and I still would want a thick mommy to sit on my face

>> No.23027168

>>23026927
The artist who cast that statue melted almost everything he could find in his studio / in town in one night when he got the idea. It is true artistry / genuinely awe inspiring

>> No.23027171

>>23026498
>Medusa kills Perseus and parades his head for some reason
>Danae who already got fucked over by her father twice will now be forced to marry the king after losing her only son who only wanted to save her
Bravo.

>> No.23027199

>>23026502
>talknig about how deep it is just cause its old.
Well, everything in the Old Testament is made up but it still has its nuke-mad adherents.

>> No.23027207

>>23026642
Capeshit is k*kes substitute for our actual, heroic history.

>> No.23027228

>>23026642
>a spiteful girl
The more I look at it the more I realize I think this is suppose to BE Medusa, which raises some interesting questions.

>> No.23027234
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>>23026502
Batman comics are deep now.

>> No.23027241

>>23026860
>Why are women depicted as "chaos" in mythology?
because bitches are crazy

>> No.23027248

>>23026997
You sound like a colossal faggot.

>> No.23027253

>>23027207
>Perseus slaying Medusa is real and actually happened

>> No.23027254

>>23027253
Prove it didn't, bitch

>> No.23027265

>>23026502
>Marvel
>batman
This guy not only is uneducated in mythology but also in pop culture

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>>23027253
It's more real than you are. Perseus and Heracles existed, you do not.

>> No.23027271

>>23026856
How else are you supposed to read greek mythology if not reading greek literature?

>> No.23027272

>>23026502
A masterclass fisherman if there ever was one

>> No.23027276

>>23027254
>>23027269
You mf's need to touch some grass.

>> No.23027277

>>23027265
theory deboonked

>> No.23027280

>>23027276
Go back to plebbit.

>> No.23027281

>>23027234
I don't get it, do you need to read Bataille for this?

>> No.23027283
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23027283

>>23026498
Why is that white bitch taking up space that could be used to put up more nigger heads?

>> No.23027285
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23027285

>>23027265
It happened. I was there. Reincarnation.

>> No.23027286

>>23027283
Kek

>> No.23027288

>>23027101
women will never respect you

>> No.23027289

>>23027280
nah you should

>> No.23027290

>>23027269
>>23026498
From what greek literature is Perseus? I'm currently reading sophocles. Did I miss anything by not reading the homeric hymns, or is Perseus going to appear more lately?

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>>23027289

>> No.23027301
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>>23027283
Or whatever the fuck this is, even.

>> No.23027309

>>23027228
>The more I look at it the more I realize I think this is suppose to BE Medusa, which raises some interesting questions.

That's the entire point, anon. The argie artist attempted to present Medusa as the victim now taking rightful revenge on manhood, and the statue was even taken as a symbol crying during #MeToo

https://trirec.blogs.uv.es/medusa-garbati/

>> No.23027310

>>23027301
That's badass

>> No.23027314

>>23027301
>holding large turd

Kek

>> No.23027316

>>23027314
Lmao can't unsee it

>> No.23027334

>>23027283
Why did bantus conquer all the relatively human looking africans

>> No.23027336
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>>23026498
Paris did nothing wrong

>> No.23027337

>>23026502
>they hated him because he spoke the truth

>> No.23027345

>>23027288
The best way to get women to respect you is to be a staunch traditionalist about greek mythology, I think I was retarded for thinking that going to the gym and eating ass was going to get me anywhere

>> No.23027386

>>23027334
If anything, bantus didn't conquer so much as had high birth rates. They're relatively docile populations when they aren't being trained by the soviets / CIA like with the Simbas in the Congo. Historically they're one of the best / easiest populations to enslave. The Tutsi were only about 10 percent of rawanda's population.

>> No.23027396

>>23027386
Please look around you and describe your surroundings for me

>> No.23027407

>>23027345
The best way to get women to respect you is to rape them.

>> No.23027412

>>23027396
Comfortable.

If you mean the US where the state deliberately agitates the bantus and doesn't police them, their crime / protests would dissolve instantly with violent policing and more prison. The only reason there is a problem is because the government is doing its best to agitate black people.

>> No.23027422

>>23027412
It's simple: we, uh... KILL, the niggers.

>> No.23027431

>>23027422
Reference to one of the historical classics, I knew /lit/ still had some readers

>> No.23027650

>>23026500
But why?

>> No.23027660

>>23027650
It's unrealistic capeshit. A dude throws a thunderbolt. Pretty sure that's impossible.

>> No.23027685

>>23027660
How do I respond to this without sounding mad

>> No.23027691

>>23027660
>he's never thrown a thunderbolt
git gud, scrub

>> No.23027706

>>23026931
>with the plain intention of turning her into a victim
Ovid turned her into a victim.

>> No.23027754

>>23027706
Ovid also says rubbing your boner on a girl you find attractive is the way to woo her. I love Ovid.

>> No.23027781

>>23026498
Where do i buy miniature versions of greek statue? I dont want online i want to do sightseeing and then support local artist. I was in Butrint and there i bought miniature Venus in Milo i love to stare at in breaks and when i wake up. He also had Paris statuette to sell i regret not buying, it would be cool inspo to stare at it between workouts. This year i will visit south-east Spain, Cartageena for example or Murcia, will i find there places like these and will i be able to buy statuettes there?
So i guess its also question about cool places like historical ruins etc, related to greek and roman culture

>> No.23027789

>>23027781
>miniature Venus
Into the cumjar you go

>> No.23027793

>>23027781
>Where do i buy miniature versions of greek statue?
Amazon
>I dont want online i want to do sightseeing and then support local artist.
Then go to Greece, I guess?

>> No.23027798

>>23027789
She would approve.

>> No.23027806

>>23027781
I bought a miniature Athena at the Parthenon replica in Nashville that‘s on my music cabinet now. I love it a lot.

>> No.23027812

>>23026498
Progressive subversion: the statue.

>> No.23027834

>>23027037
What if I go to the gym and am into femdom but even I think that the statue in OP is bad?

>> No.23027844

>>23027285
Amalgam Universe was so retarded but so cool at the same time.

>> No.23027866

>>23027660
He's also a planet. Batman should have been a planet.

>> No.23027875
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>>23027866
Mythologyfags destroyed

>> No.23027876

>>23027866
The moon would be a lot cooler if it was called "The Batman".

>> No.23027912

>>23027301
It's clearly a shitcock, retard.

>> No.23028006

>>23026502
hey it's you again. good job on making them seethe, none of them can actually give a proper response and defend their whacky comic book heroes - I mean their Greek mythology

>> No.23028013

>>23028006
Nigger.

>> No.23028043

>>23026503
Based image.

>> No.23028056

>>23026915
Is she really though? Wasn't she kinda turned into a monster because she was raped or some bullshit like that?

>> No.23028064

>>23028056
>Wasn't she kinda turned into a monster because she was raped or some bullshit like that?
IIRC it was that she was hot and Hera was jealous. Many such cases.

>> No.23028065

>>23026967
Patriarchy isn't good for women and frankly it's not really good for men either. Masculinity, in our society's narrow conception of it, is a straitjacket.

>> No.23028068

>>23028065
Leftists are stupid retards

>> No.23028071

>>23027241
What, and men aren't?

>> No.23028075

>>23028065
No, you're just a faggot and a retard.
>>23028071
Not relatively, no. Not even remotely close.

>> No.23028081

>>23027334
Didn't metalworking have a lot to do with it?

>> No.23028088

>>23028064
Either way, she doesn't sound like much of a villain.

>> No.23028092

>>23028006
Yes, we know you have no life experience and so the feats of gods and genuine heroes look like inexplicable nonsense to you. This is also how one ends up unable to qualify literary merit.

>> No.23028095

>>23028075
Which gender has started the vast majority of wars? Which gender commits the vast majority of rape and other violent crime?

>> No.23028097

>>23028088
She's an evil monster who kills people.

>> No.23028098

>>23028088
snake hair = bad

>> No.23028101

>>23028088
She's ugly. That's why she's bad.

>> No.23028106

>>23028095
Which gender is useless beyond reproductive functions? Oh, right, women.

>> No.23028107

>>23028095
Jews and blacks

>> No.23028123

>>23028097
Sure, but I'm saying how did she get that way in the first place?

>> No.23028129

>>23026927
Why did everyone in ancient times have little peens?

>> No.23028132

>>23028123
By being a stupid leftist

>> No.23028139

>>23028129
Allegedly, they crafted them like that intentionally as to not have the genitals be distracting.

>> No.23028142

>>23028106
Do you know who Grace Hopper was? Or Hedy Lamarr? Or Marie Curie? Or Rosalind Franklin? Or Emmy Noether? Or Lynn Conway? Or Ada Lovelace? Or Margaret A. Wilcox? Or...
>>23028107
Those aren't genders.

>> No.23028145

>>23028139
Didn't work

>> No.23028152

>>23028142
>Grace Hopper was? Or Hedy Lamarr? Or Marie Curie? Or Rosalind Franklin? Or Emmy Noether? Or Lynn Conway? Or Ada Lovelace? Or Margaret A. Wilcox?
No, but I can confidently state that they would have better served society by shutting the fuck up and making a sandwich for a man.

>> No.23028157

>>23028145
ballgazer

>> No.23028159

>>23028142
Make me burger woman

>> No.23028161

>>23028152
The computer you're posting this from wouldn't exist without Grace Hopper.

>> No.23028164

>>23028161
I bet it would.

>> No.23028173

>>23028161
Kek, woman go make borger

>> No.23028175

>>23028139
But imagine your mythological hero being small dicked

>> No.23028178

>>23028164
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper
>One of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer, she was a pioneer of computer programming. Hopper was the first to devise the theory of machine-independent programming languages, and the FLOW-MATIC programming language she created using this theory was later extended by others to create COBOL, an early high-level programming language still in use today.
>At Eckert–Mauchly she managed the development of one of the first COBOL compilers. She believed that programming should be simplified with an English-based computer programming language. Her compiler converted English terms into machine code understood by computers. By 1952, Hopper had finished her program linker (originally called a compiler), which was written for the A-0 System.[2][3][4][5] During her wartime service, she co-authored three papers based on her work on the Harvard Mark 1. She is accredited with writing the first computer manual, “A Manual of Operation for the Automatic Sequence Controlled Calculator.”
>In 1954, Eckert–Mauchly chose Hopper to lead their department for automatic programming, and she led the release of some of the first compiled languages like FLOW-MATIC. In 1959, she participated in the CODASYL consortium, which consulted Hopper to guide them in creating a machine-independent programming language. This led to the COBOL language, which was inspired by her idea of a language being based on English words. Hopper promoted the use of the language throughout the 60s. In 1966, she retired from the Naval Reserve, but in 1967 the Navy recalled her to active duty. She retired from the Navy in 1986 and found work as a consultant for the Digital Equipment Corporation, sharing her computing experiences.

>> No.23028182

>>23028175
only women and homosexuals care about such things

>> No.23028185

>>23028178
Not readin allat

>> No.23028187

>>23028129
Apparently it was considered civilized. Big dicks were for horny barbarians.

>> No.23028189

>>23028178
Don't care. Women are useless beyond getting pregnant. Go feed your cats.

>> No.23028192

>>23026498
Fellow men, how are we so based?!?! I can basically claim credit for anything a man did because they are just like me, a fellow man

>> No.23028193

>itt
>mythology is basically just marvel
>wahhh no it's not it's based * 10
>alright time to enter our daily ritual discussion on women
Even mythology fags don't wanna discuss this gay bullshit lmao

>> No.23028194

>>23028185
>No woman has ever done anything of value!
>Here's something of great value a woman did
>I'm not reading that!
Predictable. You don't care about what's true, you don't care about arguing in good faith, you only care about posturing.

>> No.23028197

>>23027168
That sounds like bullshit. Casting a statue is a labourious process and its not something you go about in one night after being inspired. Just the prep work alone, e.g. getting clay and forming the clay sculpture, would easily take a few days. You cant do that entire process quickly.

>> No.23028198

>be seething roastoid
>get BTFO
>start replying to OP
lmfao go make me a sammich BITCH

>> No.23028200

>>23028187
Hmmm this cope sounds very familiar

>> No.23028202

>>23028198
The person replying to OP isn't me.

>> No.23028203

>>23028194
I said that her time would have been better spent getting pregnant, and that assertion remains true.

>> No.23028208

>>23028193
/thread

>> No.23028209

>>23028203
I suppose so, insofar as it would mean you wouldn't have this computer to post on and would therefore not be posting.

>> No.23028213

>>23028209
A man would have done it, and he would have done it better. Deal with it.

>> No.23028216

>>23028187
A big dick is a sign of potent masculinity

>> No.23028220

>>23028209
You really think no one would have invented the computer if not for her? Are you fucking stupid?

>> No.23028232

>>23028213
And yet no man did. Probably there are men who could have done it better, I won't claim she was literally the best suited person out of eight billion for the task, but there are also plenty of men who would have done it worse.
>>23028220
Digital computers would almost certainly exist in some form, but they might look quite different.

>> No.23028236

>itt anons complain about resentment while resenting and seething about women

Shindiggity

>> No.23028243

>>23028232
less talky more sandwich makey

>> No.23028245

>>23028243
Not an argument.

>> No.23028249

>>23026498
The most important thing about picrel is not its artistic merit, but the fact that it is there. That is, givern the location in a public park in New York, it is a signal to all that the "woke" crowd have captured that particular institution (government of New York city). It's a demonstration of power, pure and simple, like the destruction of the Lee statue in Charlottesville. We need to work towards the day when this monstrosity is removed and melted down.

>> No.23028250

>>23028245
No penis, opinion disregarded.

>> No.23028252

>>23028250
What if I told you I do have a penis?

>> No.23028254

>>23028129
One of the most popular recurring characters in theatres had a huge horsecock and is half animal.
Animals have big dicks. Being publicly horny is for animals and rural plebs. Civilization subdues the animal and the ideal man is civilized.

>> No.23028259

>>23028252
What if I told you to go make me a sammich?

>> No.23028264

>>23028259
Make up your mind, is it women who are supposed to make you a sandwich or anyone who disagrees with you?

>> No.23028265

>>23028252
Maybe you're right fellow man, I must assume you've given this great critical thought and manly consideration.

>> No.23028268

>>23028254
So you pride yourself on having a small dick?

>> No.23028271

>>23027345
>going to the gym and eating ass
That just gets you other fags.

>> No.23028275

>>23028264
Yes.

>> No.23028276

>>23026498
What a thread..I guess some anons got what they wanted and the board adopted a grug tier culture

>> No.23028277

>>23028265
Actually not a man.

>> No.23028280

>>23026502
I'm Greek and this is true, I love it due to it being my heritage but I can't see why it would be appealing to foreigners besides in a capeshit way since they connect in the same way they do with actual capeshit.

>> No.23028283

>>23028280
Being greek do you also have a tiny weeny itty bitty peepee?

>> No.23028285

>>23028280
Ancient Greek culture was influential on all of Europe. Frankly, at this point it's our cultural heritage too.

>> No.23028287

>>23028283
Actually no I'm hung. Couldn't imagine being a dicklet but I'm also p tall

>> No.23028290

>>23028194
I’m just imagining that you are a woman in her late 30s with a shag haircut sitting down at a computer, poe-faced thinking she’s a hero for arguing with someone who is clearly baiting and trolling them relentlessly.

>> No.23028293

>>23028285
Actually a bit of Roman legalism was, the rest was purely aesthetics. Do you think France or Germany of 750-1200 had anything to do with the Greek cities and alliances of 1500 years prior?
Also this was about the Gods, not the culture itself which included far more than them

>> No.23028294

>>23028268
It's not about any actual penis. The reason it had a clear symbolic meaning to them was due to cultural associations from things like theatre. If you want to make something aesthetically "clean" and ideal you try to avoid triggering associations with the base world of beasts, feces and anuses.
>>23028277
Then I'll assume you've given none of this any thought and just parrot what pop culture feeds you.

>> No.23028298

>>23028280
You have as much connection to the myths as an average American lol! Are you actually wondering why people still appreciate things like the Iliad or Oedipus Rex?

>> No.23028301

>>23028194
>of value
To whom? And for what? Accelerate collapse?
Yeah women are great at that I'll give them that
Possibly their only asset

>> No.23028303

>>23028293
Poets in all Europe wrote poems about the Greek gods into the 19th century.
>>23028294
I disagree with pop culture on several points here.
>>23028301
I gave some examples.

>> No.23028311

>>23026500
You undoubtedly have your own beliefs in myths, whether it is the origin story of your tribe, or grievance stories of same, or the received history of the 20th century, and so on.

>> No.23028314

>>23028298
You did not understand what I said
I see Nord gods like capeshit. I have no connection to them like the Norse do

>> No.23028324

>>23028303
>Poets in all Europe wrote poems about the Greek gods into the 19th century.
So basically zero influence to western culture from 300 onward until today, but some proto-journalists wrote a few verses nobody read
Ok
>Examples
Yeah, just code monkey stuff not improving anything and just accelerating compute which leads to collapse. This is a good thing btw

>> No.23028327

>>23028324
Have you ever read Shakespeare? He wrote several things based on Greek mythology or set in ancient Greece.

>> No.23028329

>>23028293
>Do you think France or Germany of 750-1200 had anything to do with the Greek cities and alliances of 1500 years prior?
Not just a little, the main "pagan practice" that worried the Christians of the time were the Satyr plays/orgies, still going strong in Western Europe.

>> No.23028333

>>23028293
Picking the worst eras of France/Germany as completely distinct from the Greek lineage proves the point.

>> No.23028403

>>23027228
Medusa is apparently a pretty common symbol for women who have suffered sexual abuse now. A girl I worked with had a tattoo of her and explained it.

>> No.23028410

>>23028324
This nigga never read Goethe.

>> No.23028418

>>23028327
>popular works taking themaric inspiration from Greek works mean that the cultural mores and governing law is just like that
Stop posting now
>>23028329
There were no pagans at that time, also this simply proves what I said. The most influence achieved was some sex orgies (possibly preceding their rebranding as Satyric) among a sea of other cultural traits which was then wiped out anyway
>>23028333
Have 600-2023 as well. Basically after Rome stopped enforcing their own culture by force
Try the birth of the modern states in these countries. Yes it does proves the point (mine)

>> No.23028422

>>23028403
sexual abuse isn't real. what's real is ugly women abusing me with their unsightly faces and bodies shaped like Coca Cola cans

>> No.23028427

>>23028418
>>popular works taking themaric inspiration from Greek works mean that the cultural mores and governing law is just like that
That's not what I said though? As you said, to begin with the question was about gods and mythology. (Though Athens was influential as far as democracy goes too.)

>> No.23028434

>>23028422
Let's see you say that after getting raped.

>> No.23028444

>>23028434
I would never get raped, I'm too smart to go walking down backalleys at midnight, or to party with drunk fratboys.

Not all of us can have common sense though!

>> No.23028447

>>23028280
>my heritage
But you are a judaised turk

>> No.23028456

>>23028427
About how foreigners perceive them, specifically
Also same as I perceive Norse gods as a foreigner
One can try and emulate the lifestyle of an Olympian on a cultural scale, but he'd still understand it as a capeshit hero

>> No.23028464

>>23028434
i am already raped daily when i see an ugly woman
this is inhumane and must stop

>> No.23028466

>>23028444
Most rape is committed by someone the victim already knows.

>> No.23028473

>>23028447
I actually thought that too but aa it turns out we're still the closest descendants of ancient Greks and pretty close overall, genetically speaking. We have both balkan and west asian admixture in small amounts after the hellenistic era but ironically enough that's due to our own migrants from asia minor approx 100 years ago

>> No.23028516

>>23026502
True. I think Spengler says something about this in the Decline of the West that Western culture is the only one which blindly worships another culture (classical Greek antiquity). If you actually look at classical Greek society it was horrible. Retarded, superstitious religion with no philosophical or moral depth. Pedophilia and homosexuality practiced openly. Lack of political unity, Greek city states backstabbing each other against the Persians. Intellectuals like Socrates sentenced to death for engaging in philosophical inquiry. Even their greatest philosophers were monotheists at core.

>> No.23028521

>>23028466
Even worse!

You'd have to be uniquely retarded to befriend a rapist and not be at least somewhat privy to their intentions.

>> No.23028531

>>23027253
> sarcastically equating a myth to history when no-one says it is history
> strawman

I was referring to the actual history of European-descended people - that is what is heroic and ought to be taught as such to kids.

>> No.23028551

>>23028516
>Retarded, superstitious religion with no philosophical or moral depth
Based
>Pedophilia and homosexuality practiced openly
Pederasty for a few decades in the 1500+ years the Greek culture existed
>Lack of political unity, Greek city states backstabbing each other against the Persians
Good thing. Read Bruckhardt
>Intellectuals like Socrates sentenced to death for engaging in philosophical inquiry
For being a gay cultist who subverted greek culture

>> No.23028561

>>23028521
That's the problem- there's no way to tell in advance. And a lot of men who rape don't think of what they're doing as "rape", they think of it was "she was clearly asking for it" or "it's her duty as a wife" or "she just didn't want to admit she wanted it".

>> No.23028566

>>23028561
Oh so you're referring to normal sex? I thought you meant actual rape, drugged or tied etc
Lame, take your fantasies elsewhere

>> No.23028573

>>23027866
>He's also a planet. Batman should have been a planet.

Jewish capeshit-makers did not discover the planets, goy mythmakers did.

>> No.23028574

>>23028551
>gay
Lol if anything Socrates was trying to stop the Greeks from raping little boys. In the gayest of the dialogues, the Symposium, he spends a bit of time talking about how the pederastic relationship needs to be chaste and not devolve into sex.
>Based
It shows their baseness of character, correct
>Pederasty for a few decades in the 1500+ years the Greek culture existed
official homosexuality/pederasty in their myths. Look up Zeus and Ganymede. It's disgusting.
>subverted greek culture
their """"culture"""" needed it

>> No.23028577

>>23028566
If both partners don't fully consent to what's going on, it's rape. That's what "rape" means.

>> No.23028579

>>23028561
>a lot of men who rape don't think of what they're doing as "rape"

Well those men are dangerously stupid and should probably be institutionalized.

>there's no way to tell in advance

There absolutely is. I've had two female friends share their stories of sexual assault with me and I couldn't count on both hands how many fucking red flags were present before the assaults occurred.

>> No.23028584

>>23028006
Non-white detected.

>> No.23028586

>>23028418
Basically the entirety of the arts are Greek in origin. A very clear example can be seen in the Western musical tradition which was deliberately created as a resurrection of Greek drama. Visual art grew out of mythological themes, theater and poetry followed Greek norms, etc.

The unification of the modern states is a bit organic to cite in terms of any historical influence but philosophically enlightened principles and the example of the Roman Empire are certain influential factors.

>> No.23028587

>>23028579
And you think every single person who shows some red flags is a rapist? If you dismissed everyone who showed anything that could possibly be interpreted as red flags, there'd hardly be anyone left.

>> No.23028594
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>>23026502
You're right about everything except "acting like retarded children" part.
Gods in general are like this. Yes, even YHWH.

>> No.23028600

>>23028587
>If you dismissed everyone who showed anything that could possibly be interpreted as red flags, there'd hardly be anyone left

I don't know if you've just been incredibly unlucky with the people you've associated with in your life, but this is grossly untrue.

>> No.23028601

>>23028088
She was a monster, not a villain. You can't go around turning people to stone and escape dire consequences.

>> No.23028611

>>23028574
You spend a lot of time thinking about little boys being raped, a norm that was often outlawed and disappeared within decades when talking about a culture of 1500+ years with hundreds of features
Have fun when you get busted

>>23028586
>Gutenberg and Germans using firepowder were just embracing Chinese culture which influenced German culture

>> No.23028612

>>23028594
Ironic since you're acting like a retarded child, but you always are, schizo.

>> No.23028614

>>23028577
oh my bad i thought rape was actually something serious with long lasting effects etc
thanks for clearing up that rape should be legal since it's nothing

>> No.23028622

>>23028577
So when a doctor injects a measles vaccine in a child, that's rape?

>> No.23028623

>>23028095
>"gender" instead of sex

Libtard detected. Gender is a linguistic term and sex is the state of being male or female.

>> No.23028627

>>23028612
YHWH is no deeper, moral or meaningful than even a Greek God.

>> No.23028633

>>23028095
This is such a stupid fucking punch line that feminists like to throw around.

>Which gender commits the vast majority of rape and other violent crime?

Gee, I don't know, probably the gender that HAS THE PHYSICAL CAPACITY TO. If women were physically domineering and filled with testosterone, it'd probably be the other way around. Use your brain for like 5 seconds, I beg.

>> No.23028635

>>23028095
Blacks and Pajeets

>> No.23028640

>>23028280
Anon, this type of shit is precisely the reason we had to take your marbles away.

>> No.23028644

>>23028633
Women in power start more wars on average also lmao
Women are literally more inhumane than men. It's funny how unhinged and murderous foids are, especially white women

>> No.23028646

>>23028640
It's fine we'll get them back after striking a deal with your next muslim president kek

>> No.23028648
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23028648

>>23026498

>> No.23028650

>>23028129
The artist depicted it that way because it was a given that you don't ask mere property whether your peen is big enough for her and also, because the artists weren't niggers.

>> No.23028655

>>23028646
Well, I will certainly defer to your expertise on what it’s like to be ruled by Muslims

>> No.23028662

>>23028586
>>23028611
I think you know what a dishonest comparison that is.

>> No.23028667

>>23028655
KEK good one
Although I doubt I can help. We had a mixed sanjak rulership type with clergy involved and tax collectors, with the people being Anatolians and convert Greeks. You sadly have rabid inbred pakis

>> No.23028668

>>23028600
I did say 'anything that could be interpreted as'. The problem is not all red flags are unambiguous.
>>23028614
Non-consensual sex is in fact very bad.
>>23028622
No, because A that's not sexual and B there's a good reason for it. There is never a good reason to have sex with someone who doesn't consent. (I mean I'm sure you could come up with a contrived thought experiment where there is, like if someone is telling you "rape this person or I'll nuke a whole city" and you have no way to stop them, but it is extremely unlikely that you will ever be in such a situation.)
>>23028623
'Gender' as a euphemism for 'sex' is attested since the 15th century, get over yourself.
>>23028623
Surely if women wanted to rob banks they could pick up a gun? As the saying goes, God created men, Samuel Colt made them equal.

>> No.23028672

>>23028662
My point is that "culture" isn't just music and art. It's literally how people live. Social organization, morality and so on
None of it was Greek. Well maybe in Renaissance Italy there was a massive influence fir a while but that's all

>> No.23028675

>>23028192
> tactical individualism

No doubt you have no trouble assigning blame to all white people or all men when it suits you.

>> No.23028680

>>23028668
>Non-consensual sex is in fact very bad.
Incorrect, it's the norm in all marriages and relationships

>> No.23028689

>>23028680
Not in healthy respectful ones.

>> No.23028691

>>23028689
Especially in healthy respectful ones

>> No.23028700

>>23028667
Woah hey he is a pure ARYAN Brahmin!!

>> No.23028701

>>23028689
Especially in healthy respectful ones

>> No.23028703

>>23028672
You picked two categories that as much as christianity distorted and plagued Europe with their version thereof, they still picked up wholesale from the Greeks to start with.

>> No.23028709

>>23028700
Can't tell if uk would be better off with north india pajeets than with pakis, or worse

>> No.23028711

>>23028668
>Non-consensual sex is in fact very bad.
Consent is just a social construct.

>> No.23028713

>>23028691
>>23028701
How would you like it if your partner forced you to have sex when you didn't want to?

>> No.23028714

>>23028703
>Erm did you know that Germanic and Norse pagans picked up their morality and social organization from the Greeks after being culturally enriched by their delicious cuisine?

>> No.23028717

>>23028668
>Non-consensual sex is in fact very bad

I'd probably agree with you, you'd just need to give some clear reasoning as to why.

I'd suspect you'd say non-consensual sex is bad because it causes trauma, but that's actually not universally true. Rape is not inherently traumatic. Commonly it is, but people can have very diverse reactions to things and some people don't get traumatized at all by rape.

>> No.23028719

>>23028648
I just jerked off to this.

>> No.23028720

>>23028713
I'd just rape her back

>> No.23028724

>>23028713
My partner is a woman, and thusly very weak, so she couldn't.

>> No.23028726

Rape is found in over 2 million speciea
Consent is only found in one

>> No.23028727

>>23028713
They're trolling you lmao point in responding

>> No.23028728

>>23028713
Depends on the circumstances.

If I'm like working from home and they came over and just sat on my dick without warning, I probably wouldn't care.

But like if we were in public and they tried to have sex with me without my consent, I'd probably be pissed because there would be obvious social consequences.

>> No.23028729

>>23028727
>They're trolling you
No, I mean it. Women deserve rape.

>> No.23028731

>>23026642
>a spiteful girl
Medusa became a monster after having been abused and raped. Lit/ showing the depth of its knowledge again.

>> No.23028732

>>23028727
No point*

>> No.23028733

>>23028713
This would never happen, because I'm a man and my partner is a woman. Unless she holds me at gunpoint, she would not have the ability to rape me.

>> No.23028737

>>23028731
>women are... LE VICTIM
don't care, she deserved it

>> No.23028738

>>23028729
Kys

>> No.23028739

>>23028709
Mahabharata has clear parallels to Homer, they are ur primal bardic steppe nomad brothers, India + Greece alliance superpowers by 2020+5

>> No.23028741

>>23028714
You‘re once again being disingenuous after previous posts have excluded the range of 700-1200, with greater contextual focus leaning toward the Renaissance-Romance eras.

>> No.23028743

>>23028711
So is money, does that mean stealing money isn't bad?
>>23028717
I'd argue that even if it doesn't cause trauma it's still a violation of a person's bodily autonomy. But even if you don't go in for those sorts of rights-based arguments- well, not every instance of drunk driving results in an accident, right? But we still agree drunk driving is bad because there's an unreasonable risk of it resulting in an accident that outweighs any positives.
>>23028724
>>23028733
Use your imagination. Blackmail, drugs, a weapon, holding something valuable to you hostage...
>>23028726
If you're going to take your morality from animals, then there's nothing wrong with me killing you and taking your house.
>>23028727
The point of debate isn't to convince your interlocutor, it's to convince the audience.
>>23028728
So you'd be upset if your partner tried to force you to have sex in circumstances in which you actually wanted not to?

>> No.23028748

>>23028743
tl;dr, go make me a sammich

>> No.23028750

>>23028324
>So basically zero influence to western culture from 300 onward until today, but some proto-journalists wrote a few verses nobody read

Non-white detected living in a white country who needs to boost his self-regard by deconstructing the native identity.

You still don't belong, you still have to go back.

>> No.23028751

>>23028680
I chase my wife around the house until she gets tired and then relents. I get hardest from being more domineering and aggressive.

>> No.23028754

>>23028738
no u

>> No.23028763

>>23028731
This proves beyond doubt that women who get raped were always horrible monsters and thus deserved it

>> No.23028768

>>23028743
I wouldn't want to have sex while I'm working from home. But if my partner forced me to, I probably wouldn't perceive it as a gross violation of my personal boundaries. I'd be like "ugh, this is inconvenient, but oh well."

>> No.23028771

>>23028748
Not an argument.

>> No.23028773

>>23028739
>primal bardic steppe nomad brothers
Steppe nomads had no epics and lived an ultra boring life in freezing emoty plains until other later nomads killed them off THOUGHBEIT.

>> No.23028776

>>23028713
But I did have breakfast this morning.

>> No.23028780

>>23028768
Interesting. Provided you're being sincere here, your preferences seem somewhat unusual.

>> No.23028782
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>>23026498
Dear diary, the ass was fat.

>> No.23028784

>>23028771
Women aren't people.

>> No.23028785

>>23028741
Just do 0-2023 for the Norse lmao
Also for the slavs
And most of Europe after christianity took over Rome. Remember, "eurooean culture" appeared later.
I'm right. It's over

>> No.23028788

>>23028784
Not even your mother or sisters?

>> No.23028793

>>23028743
>there's nothing wrong with me killing you and taking your house.
Correct. If you could you would've done it

>> No.23028796

>>23028773
.......
anon please, I am a steppe warrior... my forefathers.. my ancestors.... the raping, the pillaging, the mane of my steed in the wind, it all comes back to me so clearly in the primeval volks-memory... the songs the blind bard sang to us in the great chieftain's yurt.. the twang of the bow, the beating of hooves...
please, i need this

>> No.23028799

>>23028750
I'm in fact affirming the native identity of Nords, Anglosaxons etc since it never had anything to do with Greek culture, which is my point from the beginning.

>> No.23028800

>>23028788
Nope. Just babymaking machines made of meat. Letting women vote doomed the west.

>> No.23028803

>>23028784
Explain.

>> No.23028806

>>23028751
based. i often just attack her in her sleep, pull her panties down and fuck her

>> No.23028812

>>23028793
Most people don't want to live in a society where anyone can kill them and take their house. Therefore, we band together to form a society that punishes aggression.

>> No.23028813

>>23028803
>>23028800

>> No.23028814

>>23028796
Is Mongol and Xiongnu history already written down? They just didn't write in verse
At least Asian nomads had interesting lives of raiding

>> No.23028817

>>23028800
Letting anyone besides me vote is what doomed the west.

>> No.23028818

>>23028800
Yes, how convenient that the only way to save civilization is to give all the power to people like you (i.e. white men).

>> No.23028822

>>23028812
For a few years, and then you invite over blacks and browns to rape and kill you (you're asking for it as a nation)

>> No.23028824

>>23028818
How convenient that whenever someone who's not a white man fails, it's somehow white men's fault.

>> No.23028828

>>23028818
>the only way to save civilization is to give all the power to people like you (i.e. white men)

Yes. Correct.

/thread

>> No.23028829

>>23028818
The only way to save civilization is to give cartels the vote. White men are retards who gace women the vote.

>> No.23028830

>>23028800
How sad that your mother was pregnant for 9 months and raised you just for you to dehumanize her and her sex like this.

>> No.23028837

>>23028830
Properly adjusted women are proud of being birth machines since men can't do that
You wouldn't know

>> No.23028840

>>23028830
In a more sane world, she wouldn't have had a choice.

>> No.23028842

>>23028668
>'Gender' as a euphemism for 'sex' is attested since the 15th century, get over yourself.

That "euphemism" is obviously much more used in recent times, even if you can find an older example.

>> No.23028852

>>23028782
Looks like a guy. Actually, looks like mine.

>> No.23028854

>>23028840
In a more sane world, you would have been executed already for being an incel.

>> No.23028860

>>23028852
post bussy UwU

>> No.23028861

>>23028814
No no u don't get it. we had beautiful blond hair, bleached by the Hyperborean summer sun

>> No.23028864

>>23028854
Incels are the biggest simps and whiteknights thoughbeit
I wish they died out so we can freely rape women (not ugly ones)

>> No.23028865

>>23028837
Women are more than just being baby making machines. You wouldn't want to just be reduced to that and being seen as semen makers lol

>> No.23028868

>>23028854
>Sanity is when people are killed for not having sex

Is this what feminism is in 2024?

>> No.23028869

>>23028854
Now type that while fertile. Oh wait lol.

>> No.23028870

>>23028822
Blame the greedy businessmen who imported them from Africa as slaves.
>>23028824
That's a strawman and you know it.
>>23028828
Why should I believe it coming from you?
>>23028837
What about the women who are infertile?
>>23028842
> To say truth, I have never had any great esteem for the generality of the fair sex; and my only consolation for being of that gender has been the assurance it gave me of never being married to any one among them […] .
From 1723.

>> No.23028875

>>23028861
Those were probably the western Scythians and Sarmatians. Persians and Greeks wrote a bit about them

>> No.23028877

>304 posts
>56 posters

wowie, these chuds really know how to work the keyboard!

>> No.23028879

>>23028868
With all due respect, we both know perfectly well that the term 'incel' has grown beyond its original denotative sense.

>> No.23028883

>>23028865
I'm literally a sack of bones meat blood and organs built to rape, kill and eat. Also impregnate and occasionally build a house or some shit

>> No.23028887

>>23028864
No actually they're majority Muslim, who should also be executed on principle

>> No.23028888

>>23028672
The Romans absorbed everything Greek they could find; they greatly esteemed Greek culture. The Roman empire and church (the latter being adopted as the state religion) continued right through to the present. The complete hegemony of the church over Europe for a thousand years moulded and maintained the jurisprudence, literacy and art despite the political disunity.

>> No.23028890

>>23028879
So has feminism, but I still engage with the original definition because it's good faith.

>> No.23028892

Incels are vile creatures driven by resentment and bitterness. How the fuck did 4channel become the gathering place of these things?

>> No.23028894

>>23028890
My point is you know perfectly well that by "incel" they don't actually mean "person who would like to have a partner but has not succeeded in finding one" in this context.

>> No.23028895

>>23028870
>Blame the greedy businessmen who imported them from Africa as slaves
Why do that when I can blame a society run by women while I chill in a faraway country? Lmao
>>23028870
>What about the women who are infertile?
Same as incels. Rope and fertilizer

>> No.23028898

>>23028887
Nobody about talking about Muslims schizo

>> No.23028899

>>23028865
>You wouldn't want to just be reduced to that and being seen as semen makers lol

You see, this argument doesn't work, because a lot of traditionalists/misogynists actually do. They're perfectly fine with men serving no purpose other than impregnating women and killing smaller creatures.

>> No.23028904

>>23028887
Don't muslims just buy a wife?

>> No.23028909

>>23028894
Yeah I know. You mean incel as in a man who hates women. There's an actual word for that. It's called "misogynist". I don't know why you wouldn't just use that word instead.

>> No.23028917

>>23028898
Muslims and terminally online incels have 99% crossover.

>>23028904
In their fanfics, yes.

>> No.23028916

>>23028888
You literally did not address my point. Or do you think Greek culture was some quasilegalist feudalist Christian society?

>> No.23028921

>>23028892
Most people here are mexicans who fuck hookers
Incels are on reddit

>> No.23028922

>>23028909
I think they're not perfectly synonymous. 'Incel' carries specific connotations of acting like he's entitled to women's attention and blaming women as a whole for his loneliness.

>> No.23028925

>>23028726
No, rape requires hands, and even in other apes sexual intercourse requires estrus in the female and that she assume the position.

>> No.23028927

>>23028883
Yet here you are arguing on a basket weaving forum lmao

>>23028899
Yeah you're right and that just goes to show their intellect. I cant believe I'm even willing to hear them out considering they don't even value themselves

>> No.23028928

>>23028917
What fanfics? They have the highest birthrates esp black muslims

>> No.23028933

>>23028928
>They have the highest birthrates
That's because they're rapists and their incel religion condones it.

>> No.23028936

>>23028925
Rape requires not even oxygen. Dolphins love rape

>> No.23028947

>>23028933
Rapists always win
It's a rapist's world you live in

>> No.23028952

>>23028947
The coming drone armies will eradicate you incels, however, so enjoy it while it lasts.

>> No.23028955

>>23028892
This place has always had freaks who will never breed

>> No.23028956

Women were built to get impregnated by their rapists if they ejaculate inside them

>> No.23028960

>>23028739
Yes, Aryan culture originated in the pontic steppe, and spread both east and west, imposing their religion and language wherever they went.

Miscegenation with the Dravidians produced the poojeets of today. We know that.

>> No.23028963

>>23028892
The same way reddit became the gathering place for terfs

>> No.23028964

>>23028952
I hate incels thoughbeit. They're ugly and soft
I will use my private drone army to drone strike 100% of incels and women over 30

>> No.23028967

>>23028963
But reddit isn't the gathering place for TERFs anymore since they banned the TERF subs. (Though there are still some kinda cryptoterfy ones.)

>> No.23028973

>>23028960
>imposing their religion and language wherever they went.
Mass migration is generally good for that, just look at America
Also Aryans are traced in 2000 BCE at East Caspian, not earlier.

>> No.23028988

Behind every man who rapes/kills/steals there is a terrible mother
FACTS. Always blame women because they are always the ones to blame

>> No.23028987

>>23028967
Reddit is still rampant with misandry and transphobia

>> No.23029001

>>23028785
Cultural diffusion happened to more remote degrees in more remote reaches if that‘s what you‘re trying to imply anything by; but it‘s been demonstrated at length that Greece had a major influence on the body of European culture including the non-deleterious aspects of christianity which were pilfered from it. You seem to be playing some obscure word game as a means to cope.

>> No.23029002

>>23028865
>Women are more than just being baby making machines.
They're really not.
>You wouldn't want to just be reduced to that and being seen as semen makers lol
Men are stronger, faster and smarter than women, that's why we're more than just reproductive organs. Men can do literally everything better than women, with the exception of getting pregnant.

>> No.23029005

>>23028870
>That's a strawman
No, it's not.
>>23028879
>incel now means "man who holds a different opinion than me"
Neat.

>> No.23029014

>>23028892
>when did 4chan become a place for lonely young men?
Day one, retard.

>> No.23029019

>>23028952
>The coming drone armies will eradicate you incels
damn femcel headcanon is wild lmao

>> No.23029033

>>23028952
drone armies operated by men because women are useless lmao

>> No.23029047

>>23029001
You seem incapable of demonstrating how Greek culture as Nietzsche and Bruckhardt among others highlighted was a part of social mores in 99% of Europe for the past 1500 years.
Or do you think heretical Neoplatonism and Socratism are "Greek culture"? Ayy lmao

>> No.23029053

>>23029002
I mean women are perfectly functional adults just like men. They have jobs and take care of their families and can do whatever they want. There's plenty of stupid men out there and they aren't just better simply because they are a man. Saying you are stronger than women doesn't mean shit because we aren't in caveman times anymore when that was necessary. I always laugh when you guys say things like this because don't you have female family members? Probably have mommy issues desu

>> No.23029057

>>23029019
>>23029033
women always have to imagine someone else doing the work for them because they can't do it themselves lmao

>> No.23029059

>>23028916
I'll rephrase what I said, for your comprehension: The Romans larped as Greeks, faking it til they made it. The Roman civilization continued in various permutations down to the present: the French, the Italian states, the Papacy, and Byzantium. After the fall of the latter and departure of their intellectual class to Russia, they considered themselves the heirs of classical civilization.

>> No.23029064

>>23029053
All wrong. Women are my property and I do not consent to their freedom.

>> No.23029071

>>23029059
Stop embarassing yourself and unironically go read a book

>> No.23029073

>>23029064
Haha you can't do anything about it cry more

>> No.23029075

>>23028936
Dolphins are air-breathing whales. They tuck their genitals away when not in use. The fact they might attack human females is not relevant to their normal behaviour.

>> No.23029084

>>23029073
I smuggle rapey 70 iq puerto ricans through your borders and have already bought three flats in Panama and you can't do anything to stop me.

>> No.23029085

>>23029047
They literally are one dimension of it, Aristotle was esteemed in a number of fields, the aforementioned arts—and the legacy of those artists—played a significant role, and the Nietzschean angle could well be used to say that certain archetypes persisted. You‘re narrowing the field with a series of backpedals to where it‘s almost incomprehensible what point you‘re attempting to make.

>> No.23029091

>>23029075
you are completely retarded, stop posting dumb pig

>> No.23029099

>>23029085
There's no backpedal. The culture that virtually all Europeans in NW, W, NE, E Europe had for the past 3500 years and culture means way of life, social mores etc, does not come from Greeks. Some similarities might exist due to human nature just like they did in 1000 bc
It's over and you lost.

>> No.23029109

>>23029099
Backpedals on era, region, definition of culture, definition of Greek, and maybe others. Meanwhile you have made zero positive assertions of your case.

>> No.23029110

>>23029109
I got that BWC doe

>> No.23029133

>>23029047
Epistemology is unique to classical Greece and foundational to European philosophy.

>> No.23029152

>>23029071
You cherry pick writers that support your thesis. No thanks. I know enough history to draw the conclusions I stated.

>> No.23029175

>>23029091
You clearly have no argument, resorting to name-calling.

>> No.23029262

>>23029109
>expand era to give you an advantage
>expand region to give you an advantage
>correctly define culture since visual arts are roughly 1% of it
>never change anything besides if it's in your favor
>I still win
It's over

>> No.23029272

>>23029133
So nothing from greek culture influenced later european culture, but some scientists used math so uhh ur right I guess? Also China became culturally German when they started printing books (Gutenberg)

>> No.23029380

>>23029262
This is a bizarre masturbatory inclination as relates to the fact that your stupid premise needed to retreat into obscure regions at the first, carried a blithe dismissal of the combined arts and moral/philosophical systems presented (which probably comprise about a third of culture, each) and not one assertion of your own.

>> No.23029449

>>23029002
Stronger and faster generally, yeah. Smarter not really, women's average IQ is slightly higher (though the male distribution has longer tails on both ends).
>>23029005
These things are on the levels of broad societal forces and tendencies, not of certitudes about this or that individual.
>>23029064
We do not consent to being your property.

>> No.23029484

>>23029449
>Smarter not really, women's average IQ is slightly higher (though the male distribution has longer tails on both ends)

So what this essentially means is that all the smartest people in the world are men, and all the dumbest people in the world are men.

>> No.23029540

>>23029484
Nta but men tend to be at the extremes of the bell curve but that doesn't mean there isn't exceptionally smart women who are smarter than the average person.

>> No.23029547

>>23029540
Of course.

I think the majority of reasonable people would just conclude that the sexes most likely have equal capabilities of intelligence.

>> No.23029558

>>23029547
Yeah but there's losers here saying otherwise

>> No.23029594

>>23029019
>>23029033
>>23029057
>y-you're a woman!!!
Holy fucking incel cope

>> No.23029599

>>23029594
>implying chads don't also hate women
Literally the only difference is whether or not you let them know you hate them.

>> No.23029626

>>23029599
More incel cope

>> No.23029631

>>23029626
I am a chad thoughever

>> No.23029642
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23029642

>>23029631
>I am a chad
The incel wishes

>> No.23029653

>>23029626
Popular rappers talk shit about women non-stop though and that's what normie chads listen to

>> No.23029654

>>23029642
I feel for the incels (who actually talk to women) because they can do the exact same things I do, but they just get called creepy because they're not as good looking as I am.

>> No.23029691

>>23029053
>women are perfectly functional adults just like men
roflmfao no

>> No.23029697

>>23028743
>The point of debate isn't to convince your interlocutor, it's to convince the audience.
You are such a hopelessly retarded idiot. Please just stop posting forever.

>> No.23029796

>400 post thread about mythology
>no one discussed mythology
it over for /lit/ too much of a non reader opinion sharing session

>> No.23030077

>>23028648
damn

>> No.23030139

>>23028561
>"it's her duty as a wife"
Marital "rape" it's the dumbest shit ever invented, I swear. You marry a woman and can't even expect to have sex these days. No guarantees, all obligations.
Do not marry.

>> No.23030246

>>23030139
Of course you can't expect to have sex whether she wants to or not! That's rape!

>> No.23030256

>>23030246
Are you a woman?

>> No.23030261

>>23030256
If a statement is true, it's true regardless of who's saying it. If a statement is false, it's false regardless of whose saying it. A true statement cannot magically become false, or vice versa, by coming out of a different mouth.

>> No.23030277

>>23030261
>Are you a woman?
Answer me. For rhetorical politeness.

>> No.23030286

>>23030277
Yes, why do you care?

>> No.23030327

>>23030286
>Yes, why do you care?
Because it's more interesting if you are.
Now back to the point; I read one of these days that in norse cultures (that the greeks would call barbarians) women and men had a duty to each other.
Mind you, if you, as woman, had a husband who stopped frequenting you, you would have all the right to divorce him, in this society.
They wouldn't look down on you for this.

The right to the sex of your partner went both ways in this model. Do you see any problem with that?

>> No.23030387

>>23030327
Right to divorce for refusal to have sex is one thing. But you don't get to take it by force.

>> No.23030429

>>23030387
Divorce. You see?
We already have an institute for this.
Why then submit a man to the same stigma, the same social reproval (if taken at face value) and penalty? What for?
What do we win from that?
Should we sign a contract everynight we go to bed?
Why push more bureaucracy into our love?
Is it the State the only way to solve conflicts?

>> No.23030442

>>23030429
Because having sex with someone against their will is a violation of their bodily autonomy and tends to be traumatizing.

>> No.23030511

>>23030442
>and tends to be traumatizing
Having sex with your own husband that you've chosen by your own volition and that you went to bed a thousand times before can be traumatizing?

>> No.23030514

>>23030511
If you don't want to have sex, yes! How would you like if it someone forced you down and fucked you while you said "no"?

>> No.23030529

>>23030514
>If you don't want to have sex, yes! How would you like if it someone forced you down and fucked you while you said "no"?
Depends. Is it that with a woman whom I have had pleasure a thousand times before?
If she doesn't go for my ass, and doesn't do any homo stuff, I fail to see how it can be traumatizing. kek
Be free to suck my dick, violently. KEK

>> No.23030534

>>23030529
You can't ever imagine a set of circumstances under which you would not want to have sex?

>> No.23030574

>>23030534
>You can't ever imagine a set of circumstances under which you would not want to have sex?
Not with my beautiful wife.
It could be annoying, it could be mid. But I fail to see how it could be terrible, if she did mostly the usual stuff we did.

Help my imagination.

>> No.23030576

>>23030574
Suppose if she did go for your ass. You didn't consent to that, did you?

>> No.23030625

>>23030576
>Suppose if she did go for your ass. You didn't consent to that, did you?
If you're my wife and I go for your ass, I'm not "stealing" your condition of woman. Though the same can't be said if we swap roles, you see?
There's not really an equivalence.
The problem here would not be the "violence" (I think at least this we concluded) but the sexual practice in question.

>> No.23030631

>>23030625
What the hell does that have to do with it?

>> No.23030661

>>23030631
>What the hell does that have to do with it?
Read it again.

>> No.23030702

>>23030661
What does the condition of woman have to do with it? The question is consent.

>> No.23030735

>>23030702
If I fuck your ass you doesn't "stop" being a woman for that. kek
My objection would not really be to your "violence", but to an act that we never did even in normal circumstances. Do you understand that?

>> No.23030771

>>23030735
So anything that you do in normal circumstances is fine even if in that moment you don't actually want to do it?

>> No.23030825

>>23030771
>So anything that you do in normal circumstances is fine even if in that moment you don't actually want to do it?
In sexual matters? Yes.
It can annoying, it can be mid, it can be boring. But it can't be traumatizing. And I surely wouldn't go to Court for it.