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23008365 No.23008365 [Reply] [Original]

what are /lit/'s thoughts on E-Readers?
Do you own one? are they worth it?

>> No.23008369

>>23008365
>what are /lit/'s thoughts on E-Readers?
They want us to buy it really hard, right?
Go away Bezzos!

>> No.23008373

>>23008365
I have a Kobo. I liked it but I just wish I could scroll like I can on my phone...

>> No.23008384

If you don't know that e-readers are amazing, you don't like reading. Which explains why there's so many retarded threads about them on /lit/.

>> No.23008414

Being able to hold a small library worth of books on a single device dedicated to reading is amazing, and is great for poorfags like me who pirate all of my books.

>>23008373
Unfortunately, the displays that these devices use are not very good for scrolling. The refresh rate is pitiful, even for the latest screens, and they have terrible ghosting if you try anyways. For reading books, they're amazing however and work incredibly well outside or under a lamp.

>> No.23008416

>>23008365
I like my ereader a lot, but people don't mention how annoying it can be to deal with frequent typesetting errors. every ebook is litered with them.

>> No.23008419

I have a Kindle that used to belong to my mom, she offered it to me after getting a new one herself. It definitely hasn't replaced physical books for me, but it's useful when I'm sort of interested in a text and have trouble finding it used. There are two cases where getting an Ereader is probably the best option. The first is if you really don't have any space, and the second if if you're the sort of person who feels the need to pirate everything. Otherwise it's not a bad thing to have around, but not something I would go out of my way to get.

>> No.23009122

I have the Kobo Libra 2 and it's a vastly superior reading experience for me. Much more comfortable to read at night in bed. It doesn't hurt my eyes at all. I can read in the pitch dark and just have the screen barely dimmed, and have the light completely warm, and dark mode on. I turn the pages using the physical buttons on the device and it isn't awkward to read in bed like a physical book, I can turn over my body to whatever way I am comfortable and the device doesn't make that awkward for me in any way. I also download all my books from zlibrary so I never have to pay for books and I can read anything that I want immediately as soon as it interests me. Also, with the help of KOReader, I am able to read books in foreign languages I am learning such as Russian because of the built in Google translate feature. In short, its great.

>> No.23009155

Yes. You can easily pirate so many books. Also very easy to read in bed.

>> No.23009167

>>23008365
How many times must we have this thread?

>> No.23009170

>>23008365
>>23008369
I have two of them. Seethe harder.

>> No.23009876

>>23008365
I have a Kindle Paperwhite which I can thankfully access libgen on.

>> No.23009895

I have a pocketbook. Good thing that you can send books over through an email attached to it when you don't have your pc handy.
Of course not good for images beyond manga.

>> No.23010144

Buy an ad

>> No.23010365

I bought a nook when it was on sale, i pirate every book anyways i just needed something easier than my laptop that wouldnt strain my eyes like a phone. Its pretty nice to be honest but i pirate everything because fuck their storefront

>> No.23010499

>>23008416
Where are you getting your shitty files from?

>> No.23011033

i have a kobo clara 5e i bought in the summer. i download epubs and put them on it whenever i can't access a physical copy of the book. it's better than a phone, but worse than a good book. screens objectively worse than paper.

>> No.23011075

>>23008365
I have one but still buy everything in paper, moving houses really sucks

>> No.23011088

>>23008416
Then go ahead and buy the ebook from Amazon. If you're getting a pirated version, then expect there to be mistakes, it's free for a reason.

>> No.23011153

>>23008365
>is a portable device that lets you store THOUSANDS of ebooks worth it?
What do you think OP?
btw, never connect it to the internet, and get your ebooks on your pc from libgen or somewhere else (convert them to mobi or azw3 if necessary with calibre) and the updates from the official website

>> No.23011157

>>23010499
Nice try, narc. The files are all shit, it doesn't matter where I get them. I, reading Platform right now, I've tried 3 different files, they are all riddled with errors.

>> No.23011159

>>23011153
people use KFX now, and have for years. You're clearly uninformed.

>> No.23011165

>>23011153
>never connect it to the internet
in contrast to my physical books which are hooked to my wifi and bluetooth

>> No.23011182

>>23011159
I have a kindle from 2016

>> No.23011205

>>23011159
Most people jailbroke, the one who's outdated is you. Enjoy your shitty Amazos approved format.

>> No.23011277

is there anything more comfy than emailing an epub from z-lib direct to your kindle? (I'm sure other readers can do it too)
I say there is not.

>> No.23011293

it my only way to read books, litreally
amazon doesn't deliver to my shithole, and ever since booksdepository went bankrupt theres no alternative
>b-but anon, I- I - there has to be an alternative uwu anon! o-oh I don't know, mayhaps-
quiet now.

>> No.23011375

>>23011205
KFX is the superior format for kindles, regardless if your device is jailbroken. you don't know what your talking about, clearly. You don't know the differences between Epub, mobi, azw3, and KFX, so be quiet.

>> No.23011395

>>23008365
If I am doing casual reading I prefer a physical book. However if I am analyzing and really going in depth I always do it on my ipad, this is mostly for scientific articles however.

Reading recreationally I want to get away from screens since they're required for my work to a great extent.

>> No.23011771

I want a Boox but they are way too expensive. Is the Libra 2 the best device in its price range?

>> No.23011804

>>23008365
I have one and even buy a significant amount of books on it.
But I usually like physical books better.

>> No.23011806

>>23011375
I don't see what the difference would be for 99% of books since they just have text and page numbers and don't require any fancy typesetting or notation.

>> No.23011814

I wish they didn't exist so that I could have piles of books from publishers like Library of America and La Pléiade

>> No.23011892

>>23011806
yeah, I know you don't see. it not the 'fancy' stuff those formats fuck up. it's basic punctuation and spacing. epubs constantly fuck up hyphens

>> No.23011931
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>>23009167
ALL
4chan is kept afloat by contracted shill groups with a few layers of abstraction between them and hardware manufacturers, whether electronic goods like here and /g/, weaponry and military glowies on /k/, car manufacturers on /o/, etc. Yes they're annoying but if you look at them another way, they are toys for your amusement; because posting here is their job, they'll never go away if you're too mean to them. For a while on /o/ there was a constant Lexus LC500 thread, and I made it my personal mission to cause posting there to cost them money instead of making them money by posting Little Crybaby 500 memes. If I convinced even one person not to buy this $80,000 car, I negated all the money they spent advertising here through the shill group. If you really want it to go away, pic related is how you have to fight.

>> No.23011948

>>23011931
schizo

>> No.23011952

>>23008365
Got one last week because lit said it was worth it and I'm loving it so far. It's certainly worth it if you are broke and want immediate access to whatever you want through pirating or legit kindle editions which are often dirt cheap. I just downloaded We by Zamyatin for $0.45 USD bc it wasn't even worth the process of downloading it from annas and booting calibre at that point.

>> No.23011957

>>23011948
What do you think all those office buildings are full of people doing all day

>> No.23011958

>>23008365
>Sascha's 7th kindle

>> No.23011963

>>23011957
Not executing underground ad campaigns on 4chan you gigantic retard

>> No.23011969

>>23011963
Why wouldn't they do that, that's like the most obvious PR you could think to do with your money in the 21st century when everyone gets their opinions from the internet.

>> No.23012003

>>23011969
But why 4chan specifically? No one comes here anymore

>> No.23012012

>>23012003
don't engage t h e schizo, he is on the verge of exposing our plans. he is so close. we need tk sell more ereaders.

>> No.23012017

>>23012003
a) anonymous, a room of people can easily control the narrative since you cant tie any statement to anything other than an ip counter and you have to be a schizo to sit there and do that
b) culturally relevant (memes and slang often originate on 4chan even today in its current degraded state)
c) still top 200 in alexa traffic ratings

>> No.23012018

>>23012012
Kek

>> No.23012023

>>23011892
Works on my machine

>> No.23012028
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>>23012012
this but unironically

>> No.23012095

>>23012017
If any jews out there are reading this and are hiring, hit me up. I'm 4% on my mother's side and I'm a seasoned poster

>> No.23012112

>>23012095
Just look for jobs in social media, marketing and influencing. If you major in communications and don't want to be a cashier or receptionist that's usually where you end up now.

>> No.23012231

>>23011153
I just got a kobo and foolishly connected it to the internet. am I doomed?

>> No.23012528

>>23009122
I'm the exact same as you

>> No.23012549

>>23012231
Nope, the other anon was a schizo. No harm in connecting to the internet other than slightly higher battery drain.

>> No.23012698

I'm thinking about making an e-reader (commercially). What features do you guys think should be included?
Also, what font sizes do you use? Or you know, how many words per line do you think are comfortable? What screen size feels like the best? Would you like it if the e-reader had a tall screen?

>> No.23012713

>>23012698
there are enough to choose from already.
if you're inspired to make yet another, why not tell us why you think one is needed?

>> No.23012723
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>>23012713
The ones that exist have dogshit firmware and have practically no features, and rely on services that might be turned off any minute. Also, they're all pretty much the same.
It has to be more than a passable text-displayer. No one's really taking advantage of the digital medium. You don't even know what you're missing out on.
Obviously, I'm not going to spell it out here. I'm curious about how large of a font size people use. An adequately large screen is a hard requirement.

>> No.23012727

>>23012723
You have no clue what you're talking about about since every single one of these shits can be side loaded with an alternative os. You need color e ink or some other innovation of that tier to even approach viability, every ereader company already provides every possible font size and screen size and can be loaded with an OS that provides every possible feature.

>> No.23012741

>>23012727
>You have no clue what you're talking about about since every single one of these shits can be side loaded with an alternative os.
o rly? Pray tell, are you doing that without a fucking JTAG to the motherboard?

>> No.23012744

>>23012727
And there's no "alternative OS" for them anyway.
>inb4 KOReader is an "OS"

>> No.23012764

>>23012744
Koreader is the os, you install a bootloader type shit, it used to be ksm for kobo but it's probably something new now, I haven't seen nickel since I installed koreader. You sure seem intent on making this product you know nothing about

>> No.23012779

>>23012764
You still haven't told me what font size you use

>> No.23012788

>>23012698
there are enough to choose from already.
if you're inspired to make yet another, why not tell us why you think one is needed?
>>23012779
who gives a shit, autist?
you're not making anything.

>> No.23012791

>>23012698
I just got a Boox Page and am almost to a point where I'm happy with the setup. I'm not familar with other ereader features to compare. The Page an android based reader with a sd slot. The screen is 7" which is small enough to be comfortable reading books and manga. The weight/balance is important so I don't know if a taller ereader would work well in that respect. Font size I use is 28.
It has a speaker I use to learn the pronounciation of words. Right now I'm trying to find the best android app that will allow me to look up, translate, and pronounce words all offline.
I briefly tried korreader and it does not seem to have any kind of tts. The standard reader for the Page is pretty cool as it lets you share the word with any application you have installed. Those are the features I would want standard.

>> No.23012795

>>23012698
there are enough to choose from already.
if you're inspired to make yet another, why not tell us why you think one is needed?
>>23012779
who gives a shit, autist?
you're not making anything.

>> No.23012831

>>23012795
>>23012788
Fuck off crab
>>23012791
Neat, thanks! TTS is definitely on my list.

>> No.23012964

>>23012791
Where did you buy it from? The boox shop says the page is unavailable.

>> No.23013026

>>23012964
I am from the US and bought it from Best Buy. From what I read its better to go through a retailer and not through Boox because their customer service is not the best.

>> No.23013364

They are absolutely worth it.
Being able to carry many books lightly,
being able to download any epub for free.
getting a kindle was one of the best things ive done, literally been reading everyday since (past 9 months)

>> No.23013371

>>23010499
Anas archive baby

>> No.23013986

>>23008365
Non proprietary ones like boyue or likebook are totally worth it. Maybe Kobo

But kindles : no

>> No.23013996

>>23012003
It really started during the 2016 election, and after the elections are over the shill teams still have to eat, so their pimps/managers/whatever you want to call the middle man hooks them up with corporate sponsors. There's probably a drip-feed of cash from political groups who want to keep them on retainer for the next election, but they'd want to incentivize the middle man to get corporate sponsors so they probably offer him a cut of the money he saves them.

>> No.23014020
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23014020

My clara hd has unfixably bricked itself to punish me for reading a murakami book. It's stuck on a page about sex and wont respond to my endless power cycling and SD card refreshing, not even the charging light works so I can't get it off this fucking page.

I've considered hitting it with a brick to get this embarassing page off it. Never reading a Pedokami book again.

What ereader should I get to replace it? Willing to spend more this time. Don't care if it's chinese or android or anything, just has to be able to run koreader and have battery for half a week between charges.

>> No.23014120

>>23014020
Don't lie bro. You must have been gooning in some ungodly way, and in your state of mental cloudiness, splashed bucket loads of fluids all over the device, resulting in it breaking.

>> No.23014129

>>23008365
I've had three kindles over the years, the 4, Paperwhite and whatever the new one is. I like them but as someone who obsessively looks up word definitions I find the dictionary still doesn't look fast enough. It was terrible on the old four, but I almost miss it in a way, there was something comfy about having the buttons on the edge and the small screen. For poetry I always buy physical books, and sometimes get non fiction physicals too.

>> No.23014141

>>23014020
Damn I feel bad for her

>> No.23014153

>>23008365
Had one. It's completely useless if you have a phone that is not 10 years old. Much slower, harder to download books on it, doesn't work with PDFs correctly. Doesn't do anything special. Personally, I don't have any problems with reading clarity in any light with my iPhone 7, which is quite old.

>> No.23014221

>>23014153
>iPhone 7
tell me you're from brazil without saying you're from brazil

>> No.23014295

>>23008365
It's not something that would worry me, if others want to do it. If someone preffers those it's fine with me. I myself have a bit of a collectors spirit so I'd like a physical book (prefferably a nice hardback one).

>> No.23014305

>>23008365
I wouldn't be surprised if this is a shill thread. They haven't been able to get these in the news for years or add a killer feature to stop people from using the old ones forever, I'm sure sales of these are in the toilet right now. Plus all the people saying "it's great, you can pirate books now", you've always been able to pirate books, you didn't need an ereader for that.

>> No.23014352

>>23014305
>Could the discussion of this device that lets you read an unlimited amount of books from the internet without eyestrain be motivated by shills on this taiwanese bull-testicle roasting forum?
IDK you tell me man.

>> No.23014385

>>23014352
>muh eyestrain
people sit and stare at 4chan for hours at a time and then go "muh eyestrain" when suddenly they are looking at something intelligible instead of anons theory about why women won't fuck him

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>a Kindle or a ... Kindle?

Amazon shill thread

>> No.23014435

>>23014385
Yeah that does happen.

>> No.23014441

>>23014435
Just use the upvote next time please

>> No.23014447

>>23014441
This isn't reddit you faggot

>> No.23014522

>>23008365
Just fucking read on your phone dumbo. No need to waste another 150$ for something that you'll not do.

>> No.23015304

OP here I just looked up ereaders on google images and downloaded a random image you people are not only massive pseuds but are also fucking schizophrenics

>> No.23015305
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23015305

e-readers means all books completely free.

I do enjoy not spending money.

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23015324

I spent the last 10 years shirking e-readers as superfluous technology while accumulating hundreds of used physical books. I finally got an e-reader and my mind is blown. Increase font size, easily bookmark and find interesting passages, built-in dictionary, dark mode, can save and read articles from the internet. I'm in awe. There's no excuse for avid readers not to own one.

>> No.23015330

>>23014522
>we can't let the last post in the thread be anti e reader boys, post up!

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>>23014522
This is facts though, I bought an ereader and it just sits under my bed for the most part because phone is better in everyway but screen size. Once you realize you're just doom scrolling on your phone for hours it's not that hard to just replace that with a book. E-ink is a pointless spook for people who buy trash like pic rel

>> No.23015347

I own a Pocketbook Basic Lux 4, got one for Christmas. I like it, but, I don't like how you can only export highlights in HTML, I'm used to simple .txt files from Moonreader.

>> No.23015356

>>23014522
>be in the middle of a chapter
>get calls from phone-sellers and your mom
>get bombarded by messages from my employer >get a notification for the next line of wireless buttplugs
>1% battery left please recharge
>update your phone now!
>app crashes for no reason
>4 inch screen
>the screen reflects the sun straight into your retina burning out your eye
>constant blue light giving you a terminal headache
ahh.. the perfect reading environment

>> No.23015369

I own a Pocketbook Basic Lux 4, got one for Christmas. I like it, but, I don't like how you can only export highlights in HTML, I'm used to simple .txt files from Moonreader.

>> No.23015374

>>23015356
>I cannot use the do not disturb functionality on a phone

>> No.23015380

>>23015356
seeing this kind of neurotic redditor shit on 4chan is so sad

>> No.23015389

paper shills are here. go murder trees somewhere else.

>> No.23015394

I've got a Kobo Elipsa that's a great reader and an okay note taker. I mostly use it for old literature or manga desu. Definitely worth it.

>> No.23015406

>>23015389
>anon says use your already existing devices that you use for hours every day in order to read pirated books that you couldve already downloaded and been reading at any point in time
>you want to kill trees!
fucking pointless lithium depleter

>> No.23015918

>>23014522
it's not an equivalent experience for long reading periods, phones are fatiguing in a way that books and ereaders are not.

the only reason to be anti-ereader but not pro-book is because you're poor.

>> No.23015930

>>23015918
>consume the product or you're a poorfag
the neurotic struggle of the average /lit/ poster makes sense when you contrast this shit with all the threads about nietzsche, stoicism and buddhism. you faggots are lost, you have all the worlds knowledge at your fingertips RIGHT NOW and you say "i need this special device to use it".

>> No.23015969

>>23015930
you have no counter argument that doesn't involve money, which is a moot point for those who have it.

again, if your point was that ereaders somehow denegrate reading, you'd be promoting books, not phones.

you understand that you're already a consumer of the books in question, and it's not even the medium that bothers you, merely the fact that it costs money.

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>>23015969
fucking moron, money is not the issue. I know they are useless because I have one and if I wanted to I could buy 50 more. If you are serious about reading you can read on the phone and computer that you without a doubt already stare at for 4+ hours a day. Saying "I will read more if I buy this device" is the cope they use to market these and saying "you can pirate books on it" is just dishonest. This thing gets like an hour a use max a month, meanwhile I finished 5 books on my phone this month by just scrolling a book instead of dumbass messageboards

>> No.23016053

your specific lifestyle quirks only invalidate ereaders for you, faggot, and they sound like technical ineptitude more than anything.
>you can pirate books on it is just dishonest
how is sideloading an epub from zlibrary at all difficult?
>i will read more if I buy this
strawman, not an argument at all.

comfort and piracy are the reasons to own an ereader, and you've done nothing but hilight how fucking stupid you are, congratulations.

>> No.23016065

Ereader plus a telegram channel with all the knowledge of the human race.

>> No.23016068

>>23016053
You can pirate books on anything, and it's not a straw man it's what half the people in this thread are saying "bro there's no distractions on it, it's a dedicated reading device"

>> No.23016074

Bought a Kobo for $50, I love it and mostly use Plato to read on it, the only thing it's missing for me is Bluetooth (that's available on newer models) and TTS (specifically tts with edge voices) if any dev made an app for reading with tts and Microsoft's voices it would be amazing

>> No.23016080

>>23016068

so what specific thing did you try to do with your new ereader that didn't work exactly how you expected?
don't say nothing, faggot.

you don't develop worldviews as retarded as yours without experiencing failure.

>> No.23016104

>>23016080
It did work exactly how I expected, it was a screen with words on it that could view files I downloaded from the internet. The thing was I realized I already had several of those and in many ways they worked better than the dedicated device (not painfully slow on complex pdfs, scrolling, no ghosting, no refresh flash every 5 pages, dont have to wait a minute for the dictionary to load, can look things up on the Internet instantly, can view color books). You act like I'm crazy for telling people not to buy useless shit.

>> No.23016119

>>23016104
so you tried to read pdfs and it was laggy, and you didn't expect it to have the scaling issues it had with them, got it.
as I suspected, technical ineptitude coupled with your specific lifestyle quirks.

>> No.23016123

>>23015324
Why is everyone ditching their 10 gen kindles?
Is it worth it going straight to the 11 gen? What should I pick?

>> No.23016131

>>23016119
Yes the dedicated book reader performed worse for the task of reading a book than my general purpose pc and smartphone. All the other problems apply to epub though, being able to scroll through an entire book like it's a blog post without seeing literal ghosting artifacts or a black page flash randomly is a much better experience. And you can look up stuff on Google and the dictionary in one second at any time you don't understand a word, it's straight up better than an ereader and everyone already has one by default.

>> No.23016133

>>23013986
>Non proprietary ones like boyue or likebook are totally worth it. Maybe Kobo
>But kindles : no
Why?

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Got one for Xmas this year. I've been using it for books that I'm only curious about, but wouldn't want to commit to buying in person. Or, for books that I've been searching for in person but can't find or can only find on Amazon for $100. If there's something I know I'll really want to keep then I still buy it physical.

The reading experience is great, the only thing I don't like is that most books don't use page numbers but the much more inscrutable 'positions' feature. I changed the setting to tell me how many reading minutes left in a chapter which helps me pace my reading a bit better. I like having a rough idea of how much I'm aiming to read each day.

>> No.23016137

>>23014020
>My clara hd has unfixably bricked itself to punish me for reading a murakami book
kek

>> No.23016144

>>23014129
I hate when I misclick and it brings up the definition for the wrong word. I feel like it's judging me. Nooooo I know the meaning of the word 'thimble' I'm not an idiot!

>> No.23016151

>>23014129
>For poetry I always buy physical books
Based. Poetry will survive the EMPs.

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>>23016131
you got filtered through your own shittery, this is not my problem, and I'm done with your dumb nonsense.
>I'm too stupid to research beforehand, learn to convert pdf, or find alternative sources
>let me make this everyone else's problem
eat shit, have a nice life

>> No.23016178

>>23016166
>skill issue
how is it retarded to use the device you already have on hand to do a task well instead of jumping through hoops to make your "dedicated" device do the exact same task but slower and worse. And once again ignore all the other problems mentioned, ain't no ghosting or waiting for refresh on my phone, I can view any file I want instantly with no hastle or conversion, I can view color, nigga, I can scroll.

>> No.23016179

this thread has become very Jewish

>> No.23016180

>>23015305
>e-readers means all books completely free.
they are already free, anon

>> No.23016191

>>23016179
Jews aren't the eternal scapegoat for capitalist faggotry

>> No.23016197

>>23015356
Don't listen to them, anons. Bezos wanna know what you're reading.

>> No.23016209

>>23015996
>saying "you can pirate books on it" is just dishonest.
why?

>I finished 5 books on my phone this month by just scrolling a book instead of dumbass messageboards
based phone reader

>> No.23016218

>>23016209
>>23016180

>> No.23016222

>>23016178
so are you a student stealing textbooks?
why do you even want color or pdfs?

sounds like you wanted a tablet, but cheaped out and bought an ereader by mistake, and are now too broke to afford one.

>> No.23016223

>>23016119
>lifestyle quirks
reading a pdf...

>> No.23016230

>>23014423
What happened there? Did amazon buy claqueurs like in this thread?

>> No.23016231

>>23016223
Imagine spending hundreds on a book reader and then it can't read a fucking book

>> No.23016232

>>23016223
i haven't touched a pdf since school.
I filter my searches for epub, because why wouldn't you?

>> No.23016237

>>23016136
>I've been using it for books that I'm only curious about, but wouldn't want to commit to buying in person. Or, for books that I've been searching for in person but can't find or can only find on Amazon for $100. If there's something I know I'll really want to keep then I still buy it physical.
sounds reasonable

>> No.23016239

>>23016230
These things have totally fallen off the grid in terms of cultural relevance and everyone who wants one has already bought one and has no reason to upgrade, head of the kindle dept has to be shitting his pants

>> No.23016257

>>23016222
>and are now too broke to afford one
>show me you're not poor

>> No.23016265

>>23016166
This is a nice pic, if you are enjoying your ereader then that's good, I don't think anyone is trying to take that away from you when they describe their own experiences and problems with them.

>> No.23016270

>>23016257
I mean, if your reasoning for ereaders being bad is they fail to handle pdfs well, that goes for whatever phone you have, since you either have to scale or scroll.

I went ahead and bought an 11 inch tablet for Gray's Anatomy and comics, because that's what an intelligent human with money would do.

>> No.23016277

>>23016265
>just read on ur phone dum dum
>hey I'm not trying to tell you what to do or nothin...
shut the fuck up.

>> No.23016284

>>23016277
It honestly sounds like some of the points made may have given you buyers remorse.

>> No.23016287

>>23016151
They should make it solar charged. And we should be able to put it inside a little silver dome anti-radiation. Then I would buy it. kek

>> No.23016290

>>23016284
your head is broken if you're detecting the slightest remorse.

>> No.23016323

>>23016230
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/182794602/#182798250

>> No.23016328

>>23016323
Lmao

>> No.23016335

>>23014153
Kill yourself

>> No.23016337

>>23016323
millennials have no standards at all

>> No.23016348

>>23014153
You're a tech illiterate and shouldn't have an opinion on the matter, simple as.

>> No.23016371

>>23008384
If you think this place is bad, try /g/. None of them read books and they seem to just want a 60hz tablet that uses e-ink.

>> No.23016391

>>23016371
>If you think this place is bad, try /g/. None of them read books and they seem to just want a 60hz tablet that uses e-ink.
If Bezos wanna shill he better deliver it.

>> No.23016395

>>23016323
Anonymous Mon 10 Apr 2023 01:23:17 No.182801356
>>182796122
>online engagement
We all know this is why threads like this and the stupid bait threads are made here. Remember kids: even if you hit dislike it's still engagement. Even if we spend thread after thread shitting on it we're apparently still engaging.

>> No.23016400

>>23016395
>Remember kids: even if you hit dislike it's still engagement. Even if we spend thread after thread shitting on it we're apparently still engaging.
I agree. Next time I'm gonna just hide it.

>> No.23016408

>>23016395
Advertising is going to have to come up with some kind of metric to justify its uselessness. At the end of the day they are spending billions of dollars and sucking up all my data to show me ads for dog food and tiktok, two products I'm not ever going to use.

>> No.23016495

>>23012012
BILL I TOLD YOU TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

our 80 million dollar secret ongoing for like 10 years 4chan marketing campaign is finally starting to work. we sold 2 ereaders to the broke shutins here last year alone

>> No.23016499

>>23016495
>muh sekrit club

>> No.23016506

>>23012723
make it so it fits the human hand ffs. im so sick of holding rectangles all the time, SHAPE IT LIKE A HAND

the screen can still be a rectangle obv

>> No.23016549

>>23016495
>our 80 million dollar secret ongoing...
The thing is that it would be ridiculous cheap running this campaign here. It's change money for them. And it has a good enough asymmetry of risk-reward.
What would they lose?
The money paid to the shills?
It seems like a good deal anyway, then why not?
Where will they put their money?
Another yacht?
Expensive jigsaws?
Cocaine?

>> No.23016558

>>23016549
Dude there is no way someone would try to influence public opinion through 4chan, it's just like two broke guys with no influence.

>> No.23016580

>>23016558
Still we always talk about the election tourists.

>> No.23016716

>>23014522
Phone screens suck for reading for long periods
Plus it's very easy to pirate books onto Kindle, last I checked

>> No.23016739

>>23015930
I consoomed the product precisely because I am poor. All the free literature I could ever want at my fingertips, all for the one-time fee. Go destroy the homes of squirrels somewhere else you chud

>> No.23016755

>>23016549
youre a retarded loser. seriously...

>> No.23016758

>>23016755
wow you sure showed him

>> No.23016770

>me when I play elden ring for 7 hours straight
>dude the graphics are amazing I gotta get an oled monitor so they are even brighter
>me when I have to read a book for 5 minutes
>owie my eyes, i need to buy a special black and white screen to be able to read anymore
HMMMMMN CURIOUS

>> No.23016812

Poster count climbed from 50 something to 68
>replies 158
Did you schizos spend all day arguing about ereaders?
I mean if you want to read on the phone, go ahead. I agree that it's sort of like those special emulation devices like >>23015348 or Retroid, it's nice to have, but the phone and PC can do it just fine.

>> No.23016840

>>23016812
>wfh tech wagies spend the entire day not working to argue about irrelevant shit with wfh "influencers" who got paid to spend the day arguing
This is the future

>> No.23016847

>>23015324
I'm literally on the same boat. I remember being snarky at a friend of mine for buying one. Bought one for my wife for christmas and I find myself borrowing all the time. I'm gonna have to buy one for myself I'm afraid.

>> No.23016917

>>23012698
The next big step would be some integration with the new AI tools. The existing text-to-speech tools available right now on ereaders aren't bad but can be almost useless if the text has a lot of notation marks. Having a really good text-to-speech would almost make any book into a quality audio book.

Something I don't think would really gain traction but having a personal chatbot like ChatGPT on it would be nice. I can just ask it to summarize paragraphs or something for when I space out.

>> No.23017538

>>23016506
Will make sure that happens. Making mine extra portable.
>>23016917
That's easier to implement in tandem with a phone. Phones will likely ship with ""AI"" chips in the next six months.
TTS also won't be audiobook-quality anytime soon.

>> No.23017553

>>23011157
I read platfrom too, got it from libgen I think. My file is not riddled with errors. Sometimes I get errors like the file turns an rn into an m but its super rare. Just move past it like a big boy.

>> No.23017560

It’s no better than wasting time watching Tik Tok videos. If you want to read, get a real book or fuck off, retard zoomer.

>> No.23017562

>>23011205
>>23011375
Kindle fags arguing over whos the bigger retard whipe both buynamazon haedware
>kek
>>23011277
>not making sure metadata are neat and tidy including a nice cover

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>>23008365
They're good
Yes
Yes

>> No.23017595

>>23008365
I wish I could say I dislike e-readers but I'd really love one

>> No.23017612

Ereaders are great. Store thousands of books, built in dictionary, back light with adjustable color, light weight, pirate books for free, and battery for weeks or for multiple books. It's probably my favourite piece of tech I own.
Surprisingly tapping the side of the screen to turn a page or using a dedicated page turn button, does actually feel like turning a physical page after a while, you just forget you're doing it.

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>>23008365
They have their uses.
Do any of you know a model that can handle large PDFs? Anything over 10 MB freezes my Nook.

>> No.23017620

>>23016840
kek

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23017645

Got my Kindle for epubs, and my (new) tablet for the PDFs I've long been wanting to read. Here's a screenshot. Whaddya think? I'm using an app called ReadEra.

>> No.23017653

Asking on this thread since it seems the most appropriate: is there a good ebook version of LOTR? The formatting on all of the copies I've dl'd, including ones from amazon, is really bad.

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my favourite thing is that you can use your favourite font no matter which book it is.
I hate it when I order a physical book and it comes with a weird thick high-contrast font

>> No.23017675

Actually insane thread rn

>> No.23017735

>>23017653
It's supposed to like that retard

>> No.23017822

What's nice about a tablet as opposed to an e-ink device is that you can read graphic novels/comics in colour.

>> No.23017830

How are all these normies scrolling past 14 threads about incels, jews and hentai to consistently find this thread lmao

>> No.23017947

>>23017562
>not making sure metadata are neat and tidy including a nice cover
nah, I'm too busy reading for that.

>> No.23017966

>>23017947
Busy reading the back of the cheezit box

>> No.23017971

>>23017966
you're telling on yourself.

>> No.23018142

>>23017538
>TTS also won't be audiobook-quality anytime soon.
I don't know. The technology is moving lightning fast.

Try it yourself: https://elevenlabs.io/

>> No.23018161

>>23018142
I aware elevenlabs exists. It can not add emphasis where it's required, or slow down or grasp the context and speak accordingly. It's passable for short paragraphs but for an entire book, it'd start grating your nerves.

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>>23017553
That's because of the OCR. You need to find a true digital ebook.
You can usually find one if your book is even half popular.
>>23017659
Hah, yeah. I've got like 50 fonts on my kindle. I pick the best font for the book I'm reading.
>>23017830
How dare you have fun
>>23018142
Also, BTW, that is really compute heavy.

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>> No.23018179

>>23018161
Good points. You can admit that's far more tolerable when comparing to the existing TTS tools in ereaders, yes?

>> No.23018184

>>23018179
>>23018161
So I'll retract my 'quality audio book' statement and just say it's a better TTS tool lol

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23018194

>>23018179
>>23018184
Oh definitely. Right now, it's state of the art and nothing comes close. Open-source alternatives suck. They recently introduced voice-to-voice and I think that'll help set a baseline for some kinds of books (mostly for popular slop) but it'll be a start.

>> No.23018452

>>23008365
Ereaders are an expensive meme that's very crude and hard on the eyes. Just use your phone. It's superior in every way.

>> No.23018471

>>23012698
>What features do you guys think should be included?
Bluetooth keyboard compatibility and a basic text editor?

>> No.23018501

>>23018452
not expensive, and better than a phone.

>> No.23018518

>>23018501
>better than a phone
In what way? Not
- processor
- storage
- connectivity
- portability
- screen (the single most important factor)
- speakers
- build quality

All I can come up with is battery

>> No.23018531

>>23018518
feels better

>> No.23018545

>>23018518
What do you mean by screen? It's fucking text lmao.

>> No.23018584

>>23018531
You just want people to see you using an ereader or lack the self control to stay off ticktock while reading. Ereaders are a joke
t. owned a couple expensive jokes
>>23018545
OLED has infinite contrast because it can turn the brightness level of individual pixels all the way down to zero at 4k resolution and 120fps. It can also do a little thing called color.
Epaper has poor contrast in the light which is made even worse in the dark by its ghastly LED backlight or some other external light source, plus all the glare that comes with that. Its refresh rate is so abysmal that scrolling is unworkable. And it's generally limited to "black and white", by which they must mean "light and dark gray".

>> No.23018592

>>23018584
>it's generally limited to "black and white", by which they must mean "light and dark gray".
You need more for books?

>> No.23018596

>>23018584
textbook projection.

>> No.23018601

>>23018584
>lack the self control to stay off ticktock while reading
Isn't this a positive thing about ereaders if it gets you off tiktok and into a book?

>> No.23018607

how do you deal with DRM? Doesn't the new kindles stop you from using books not bought on amazon?

>> No.23018610

>>23008365
My experience is that Amazon made a good product but you have to use it in the way they don't want you to use it. KindleGen used to be free to download in their website but now it is just gone. They try to say that you won't need it anymore but they are full of shit. Look for a copy online. The Kindle is as good as your access to programs that let you convert your pirated books into the right format.

>> No.23018612

>>23018607
I plug in the Kindle and press send to device on calibre. no issues.

>> No.23018626

>>23018584
>It can also do a little thing called color
I don't need color to read a book. If I wanted to read pdfs I would get a tablet or use my laptop
>Epaper poor contrast and glare
I've never once had an issue with contrast or glare, and I use mine outdoors and indoors w/ varying levels of natural light. Kobo Libra 2, can't speak for other models/brands
>refresh rate
Minor inconvenience for navigating menus, doesn't affect the reading experience at all

>> No.23018639

>>23018584
This reads like someone more interested in having the "best" device than actually using it for reading.

>> No.23018641

>>23018584
>scrolling is unworkable
Nigga who the fuck scrolls, phone brainrot. And color is useless.

>> No.23018665

>>23018592
I guess it's not strictly a need, but it sure helps your eyes when reading for extended periods to be able to dial in brightness, contrast, and color. Remember, you're the one arguing the *need* for an extra (inferior) device dedicated to reading
>>23018601
No. It shows that you have such bad ticktock brain that you need to meme yourself into a worse reading experience
>>23018607
>>23018612
Another phone reader victory:
You can pirate or otherwise source all your reading material from your phone without depending on other devices
>>23018626
>>23018639
It is impossible to overstate how nice it is when all the light in a room comes from the letters and none from the page
>>23018641
Not just scrolling, any interaction, like selecting text and looking up in another app, for example.
>color is useless
Color is extremely useful for encoding information. I personally make different heading levels different colors

>> No.23018678

>>23018607
I have literally never encountered DRM on an ebook, and I've only ever used kindles which I imagine would be the most susceptible.
I don't doubt that it was once a problem, but there are countless sources for free ebooks now, you don't even need a private tracker like for movies and music.

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23018681

The "eink is bad" faggot needs to literally commit seppuku. I'm not joking. Just end it. You've asked the same questions at least thrice now. You are beyond redemption. You're not even a funny troll. Just end it.

>> No.23018700

>>23018681
I've only asked one question once: how is eink better other than battery? No one seems to be able to answer

>> No.23018719

>>23018665
you don't have an argument for those who've already bought one, nor for those who can afford to experiment.

it also sounds like you spend most of your time in your room, with desktop and phone and chargers at hand.
for those of us who step out, we want to conserve our phones for phone things.

I love this needle you're threading where you're definitely not anti-technology, you're not calling for a return to paperbacks or anything like that, you just resent the spending of at most 300 dollars.

I remember being a poor student too, but that life is not the benchmark for how to live and spend your money.

>> No.23018738

>>23008365
I have a kobo libra 2 and I really like it. I read tons of books and the occasional manga. For manga I would get a bigger one but it's not worth it at the moment. I'm waiting for the colored e-ink to be better before moving on.

>> No.23018739

>>23008365
Being able to read anything anywhere rocks.
Not an E-reader specific thing though, your loss marketing man.

>> No.23018740

Still rocking Kindle Paperwhite 2012 with KOReader. Readarr with good indexers and Calibre make it a way better experience.

>> No.23018744

>>23015356
Are you retarded?

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>>23018700
STFU chudcel.
I'm too lazy to read the entire thread and point out all the posts this has already been mentioned in for your sorry ass, so I'll enlighten you for the LAST time:
>they don't emit light. This makes them equivalent to PAPER. This reduces eye strain greatly compared to literally any other kind of display, all of which emit light.
Second, you DON'T READ. So if the above argument isn't enough for you, by all means, stick to your phone. Stop wasting everyone's time.
And yes, this sole attribute makes e-ink 100x better than any other kind of display for reading text.

>> No.23018757

>23015389
Its funny how stupid a lot of tree huggers are.

Most paper production uses dedicated forests for its production. Often specific types of trees are planted for specific paper types.

>> No.23018766

>>23018757

>>23015389
Whoops

>> No.23018830

Sorry you fell for the forced advertising meme about reading on a shitty "distraction-free" device with the shittiest screen imaginable. A device that exists only as a pipeline for harvesting your analytics and selling you books you could aquire for free

>>23018719
>an argument for those who've already bought one, nor for those who can afford to experiment
I am both of those. My einks are more expensive than yours, and I have more of them. I bet you use one of the "ad-supported" ones, as if even Amazon's most premium eink isn't ad-supported.
>you're definitely not anti-technology, you're not calling for a return to paperbacks or anything like that
Paperbacks do outshine einks at the only strength they have: battery

>for those of us who step out, we want to conserve our phones for phone things.
Is this seriously your argument? You carry around a shitty ad platform because you need to save your phone battery for ticktock? The phone is the ultimate general computing and communication device. Reading on a phone allows you to do things you simply can't on eink. Consider looking up things you read in the wikipedia app (which is not optimized for eink) or on the internet (ditto).

>>23018751
>This makes them equivalent to PAPER
Exactly. Paper is inferior because it has a finite contrast ratio. That's what strains your eyes. In other words, it must reflect light which is functionally the same as emitting it. Individual OLED pixels can be prevented from emitting or reflecting light. That allows the subset of lit pixels to be arbitrarily dimmed while maintaining perfect contrast. That is how to reduce eyestrain.

>> No.23018833

>>23018665
>I personally make different heading levels different colors
How's life with autism?

>> No.23018837

I'm liking my new kobo clara 2e but I can't find a decent epub for Frankenstein. the one I settled on doesn't have paragraphs for Christ's sake. the quality of free pubs out there would be my major sticking point currently, otherwise the product itself is very nice

>> No.23018860

>>23018833
Colorful themes are autistic now?? You're the one living in monochrome, retard.

>> No.23018867

>>23018837
Why don't you edit it yourself? High-quality epubs of old books exist because someone did the work. It's easy work but time-consuming.

>> No.23018872

>>23018860
you're the one complaining about tiktok zoomers yet you apparently read everything with pretty rainbow colors lol

>> No.23018887

>>23018830
I use my ereader to read books, anon.
I don't look up words, I'm fluent in English.
I don't use it to browse the internet, and it doesn't play my music.
it's a book, and when I want to do a non-book thing, I set it down and do that thing.

try having a life.

>> No.23018890

>>23018830
>ticktock
>>23018830
>Paper is inferior because it has a finite contrast ratio.
Are you fucking retarded? Paper doesn't have a fucking contrast ratio you idiot.
> That's what strains your eyes.
No.
> In other words, it must reflect light which is functionally the same as emitting it.
No it is not.
> Individual OLED pixels can be prevented from emitting or reflecting light. That allows the subset of lit pixels to be arbitrarily dimmed while maintaining perfect contrast. That is how to reduce eyestrain.
So you're telling me that turning an OLED panel off is the best way to reduce eyestrain?

>> No.23018961

>>23018872
Cry about it. Colored headings tell me where I am in my notes
>>23018887
>he never googles or wikipedias what he's reading
>>23018890
>Paper doesn't have a fucking contrast ratio you idiot.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Reflective displays have contrast ratios too...
>>In other words, it must reflect light which is functionally the same as emitting it.
>No it is not.
...Because both are sending photons to your eyes. The ratio of the intensities of the photons from different regions of a display is what determines its contrast ratio.
>So you're telling me that turning an OLED panel off is the best way to reduce eyestrain?
Ha ha. Selectively turning off the background pixels -> is the best way to increase contrast -> is the best way to reduce brightness -> is the best way to reduce eyestrain

>> No.23018984

>>23018961
you're just a NEET that never leaves his computer chair.
does this autistic focus on having the best single device distract you from the fact that you have nothing to actually do?

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>>23018961
>You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Reflective displays have contrast ratios too...
Yeah and it's not the same thing at all, idiot, because one emits light and the other DOESN'T.
>...Because both are sending photons to your eyes. The ratio of the intensities of the photons from different regions of a display is what determines its contrast ratio.
It's about how bright the device is relative to the environment you faggot. That's the ENTIRE point of a screen that doesn't emit light!
>Ha ha. Selectively turning off the background pixels -> is the best way to increase contrast -> is the best way to reduce brightness -> is the best way to reduce eyestrain
Okay, so you're now going to advocate everyone read books on OLED only when the background is pitch black? I can assure you that even if you do that, your eyes will be immensely strained.

>> No.23019030

>>23018984
Pure ad hominem
>>23018989
You are actually retarded. I want you to ponder whether the full moon emits or reflects light and its relevance to our discussion.


>the craters on the surface of the moon are directly analogous to eink letter pixels on a page
>the stars in the sky are directly analogous to lit OLED pixels on an unlit background
Which do you think causes more eyestrain?

>> No.23019049

>>23019030
">the craters on the surface of the moon are directly analogous to eink letter pixels on a page
>the stars in the sky are directly analogous to lit OLED pixels on an unlit background
Which do you think causes more eyestrain?"

what the actual fuck are you talking about, you sound a little divorced from reality rn

>> No.23019057

>>23018989
>contrast ratio
>relative to the environment

>> No.23019069

>>23019049
it's clear he has no actual argument, except OLED BEST, which ignores why people want e-ink in the first place.

it's just nonsense all the way down.

>> No.23019074

What's a good one for easy piracy? I'd rather not have to faff around with custom firmware, and stuff.

>> No.23019107

>>23018678
>I have literally never encountered DRM on an ebook
Kindle e-books have DRM. You can't just drag them off of the device and expect them to work.
Check out the DeDRM plugin for Calibre of you ever want to transfer them though.

>> No.23019114

>>23019049
Your reading comprehension is impaired. You are also under the delusion that reflective and emissive displays are qualitatively different, which they obviously aren't. That's why I gave you the example of the moon which is reflective (like paper) and therefore has shitty contrast relative to the contrast between the stars and the dark sky which are directly analogous to the emissive and disabled OLED pixels (whose contrast is infinite because neither the dark sky nor dark pixels emit or reflect any light in the ideal case -- the divisor is 0 photons).

I'm just restating myself at this point. I don't think you have the mental capacity to understand no matter how explicit I make it.

>> No.23019125

>>23019074
I've heard Kobos are good. I personally use an Android based e-reader.
I heard you can get away with anything that isn't a Kindle. Just load up the epubs you found into Calibre and transfer them to your device.

>> No.23019130

>>23019074
anyone can easily pirate ebooks for any product but the kobos are all immediately compatible with epub and PDF and you can drag/drop once it's connected to your computer like any other external drive, Kindles use proprietary file formats and need the extra conversion step to transfer

>> No.23019157

>>23015348
Except you're frying your eyes, retard.

>> No.23019162

>>23017584
Which device is that you're using to read Berserk?

>> No.23019180

>>23019069
>it's clear he has no actual argument, except OLED BEST
Actually my argument is:
>turning off background light -> is the best way to increase contrast -> is the best way to reduce brightness -> is the best way to reduce eyestrain

Here, if you require [[[sources]]] to do your thinking for you
https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Contrast_ratio
>Infinite contrast ratios can be achieved by devices capable of emitting no light at all as their darkest color

I hope you can see why it follows that reflective displays (paper, eink) have finite contrast ratios by definition.
>>23018890
>Are you fucking retarded? Paper doesn't have a fucking contrast ratio you idiot.
Moron

>> No.23019199

>>23019107
oh, I see.
I don't think I've ever actually bought an ebook lol, I've only pirated them.
>>23019180
I'm going to continue reading on paper and e-ink and there's nothing you can do but cry.

keep screeching monkey.

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>>23019180
>source
>fandom.com/wiki

>> No.23019214

>>23008416
standardebooks brah

>> No.23019248

>>23019199
Amazon's devices are so cheap and advertise/track so much that they sell them at a loss to get people to use them. Enjoy your slop and eyestrain
>paper
Good

>> No.23019273

>>23019248
you're so mad lol
>eyestrain
you just can't accept it lmao

>> No.23019378

>>23017735
Are you ok anon? Did you have a stroke? I've used a ton of other ebooks, and the only formatting I've seen that's worse than LOTR ebooks is project gutenberg ebooks.

>> No.23019395

>>23018830
Hey retard, how would you make a white page on black letters on an OLED? By turning every goddamn pixel around the letters on and emitting light. If you invert the colors, the letters themselves emit light. Fucking retard.

>> No.23019419

>>23008365
>Do you own one?
Very cheap Kobo Glo circa 2013.

>are they worth it?
I have a habit of buying or checking out books and forgetting to read them until much later. New paperbacks are $10-30 nowadays. Between Project Gutenberg and Library Genesis, I've found good digital editions of just about everything I've wanted to read. When I get the urge, I can easily download whatever and put it on my ereader. I can't even begin to estimate how much money this has saved me over the years but I'd imagine it's about the same as a smoking habit.

>> No.23019685

>>23015356
This. Also, you'd belong on /g/.

>> No.23019867

I was kind of a pretentious purist who was hardcore all about real, physical books UNTIL I took a job in Africa where I had to move around a lot. Now 99% of the time I use a Kindle. Simply put, it's nice to be able to instantly access a library of books I want to read in a tiny device, rather than having to lug around a bunch of books. Books are heavy.

>> No.23019968

Best way to convert a pdf? It's too small for kindle I can't see shit

>> No.23020169

>>23019968
no good converters from my experience, just try to find a epub or mobi equivalent.

>> No.23020193

>>23020169
Yeah I looked and im thinking it doesn't exist and was only released on pdf unfortunately. Guess I'll read it on my laptop...

>> No.23020335

>>23019968
k2pdfopt
willus.com/k2pdfopt/

>> No.23020352

>>23020335
NTA this looks great, thanks.

>> No.23020374

>>23019162
Boox Tab Ultra, non-colored version.

>> No.23020463

>>23011931
WTF I want a Lexus LC500 now

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>>23011931
You're severely overestimating the impact of niche companies on 4chan.
Anyway, it is a known fact that Hiroshima Nagasaki harvests user data (block danbo in your hosts file / adblocker!) and shills toys to make money. He also is an avowed feminist and only lets some boards stay afloat because this website is run as a controlled burn, unlike infinity chan.
Ever since ads have become a biig source of income, some large names have started advertising. Right now there's a crypto scam advertising it. Then there used to be sex toys. Back when Avatar 2 was releasing James Cameron had ads running on /tv/. So it's not really that schizo to assume people are being paid to post on 4chan.
HOWEVER, you're underestimating just how effective some people can be. It doesn't take much to keep a single thread afloat or to make a general every 12 hours.
For example, I used to make the same post on /tv/ every single day for a few months (I'd get bored in a few months and piick something else up). I wasn't being paid. Sometimes I'd spam and shitpost about something I bought. So it really could be anything.
And yeah, there is definitely JIDF on /pol/.