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[Anonymous No.22985378]

Post and recommend good history books.
Previous: >>22948102

[Anonymous No.22985383]

Looking for something on the Warring States period, and also the Peloponnesian War.

[Anonymous No.22985503]

>>22985383
>Peloponnesian War
The Landmark Thucydides and Xenophon's Hellenica are the tried-and-true "Start with the Greeks" picks.
For a modern work, Donald Kagan's four-volume The Peloponnesian War is the definitive series, but the one-volume work he wrote for non-specialists has most bases covered.

[Anonymous No.22985692]

>>22985378
That plague book is massively based, so I second this one as well. Further recs:
> Always with Honor (Wrangel)
>Of Plymouth Plantation (Bradford)
>The Persian Expedition (Xenophon)
>Passage Through Armageddon (Lincoln)
>The Real North Korea (Lankov)
>The Days of the French Revolution (Hibbert)
>Bitter Glory: Poland and Its Fate (Watt)
>Medieval Russia's Epics, Chronicles, and Tales (Zenkovsky)
>Mussolini (Hibbert)
>The History of the Church (Eusebius)
>The Earth Is Weeping (Cozzens)

[Anonymous No.22985711]

>>22985383
Weird coincidence, I'm currently listening to a Great Courses lecture series on the Peloponnese War

[Anonymous No.22985719]

[Anonymous No.22985754]

>>22985692
moar:
>Reminiscences of the Great Mutiny (Forbes-Mitchel)
>The World Remade (Meyer)
>Memoirs of the Second World War (Churchill)
>Franco: A Personal and Political Biography (Payne and Palacios)

[Anonymous No.22985972]

>>22985692
>>22985754
nice

[Anonymous No.22986092]

Speaking of the Black Death, may I suggest this volume? It's composed mainly of first hand accounts of the plague with commentary by the editor. It's very good.

[Anonymous No.22986610]

>>22985503
thank you

[Anonymous No.22986673]

Sorry (not sorry >:D ) for hijacking thread, but I'm somewhat new to history and I recently finished reading pic related. While I do plan on going back and reading less "pop" books about specific civilizations, I do appreciate the overarching narrative she tells about history as it serves well to form a basic knowledge floor to build up from.
I'm looking for world history books that pick up from around Emperor Constantine onward, not focusing just on the Romans but on the world in general. What would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.22986783]

The Penguin History of the World
The Penguin History of Europe

[Anonymous No.22986787]

>>22986673
The Penguin History of the World.
The Penguin History of Europe.

[Anonymous No.22986788]

>>22985503
Adding to these recs that Kenneth Harl's Peloponnesian War and Alexander courses for The Teaching Company are legendary. Incidentally he was one of Kagan's graduate students.

[Anonymous No.22986789]

>>22986673
>What would you recommend?
The World: A Family History by Simon Sebag Montefiore

[Anonymous No.22986801]

There is a huge problem with the history before the 10th century according to gunnar heinsohn it's all out of sync with the archaeology

[Anonymous No.22986840]

>>22986801
Maybe he's just a moron.

[Anonymous No.22986847]

>>22986801
ok

[Anonymous No.22987020]

The Japan recommendations from the last thread collected

>General Overview
History of Japan by George Samson
A History of Japan to 1334, Volume 1
A History of Japan, 1334-1615, Volume 2
A History of Japan 1615-1867, Volume 3

>Early Japan/Archeology
Himiko and Japan's Elusive Chiefdom of Yamatai: Archaeology, History, and Mythology

Sacred Texts and Buried Treasures Issues in the historical archeology of Ancient Japan

>Primary Sources
Tales of the Heike (multiple translations avaialble) - Genpei War basically the Iliad of Japan

Kojiki - Heldt Gustav (oldest historical chronicle of japan)

Nihongi - william aston

A Tale of Flowering Fortunes Annals of Japanese Aristocratic Life in the Heian Period

Pillow book - account of heian court

Tale of Genji - similar to above

Tokushi Yoron - Joyce Ackroyd

The history of the fujiwara house (toshi kaden) - mikael bauer

Okagami - Life of Fujiwara Michinaga one of the most powerful nobles in the heian period

Chronicles of Oda Nobunaga - only primary sengoku source in english as far as I'm aware

Taiheki a chronicle of medieval japan - partial translation (12 out of 40 chapters)
Chronicle of Gods and Sovereigns: Jinno Shotoki of Kitabatake Chikafusa

The future and the past - a translation and study of gukansho, an interpretative history of japan written in 1219 - medieval japanese chronicle from a buddhist perspective

The Onin War: History of Its Origins and Background with a Selective Translation of the Chronicle of Onin by H. Paul Varley - usually held as start of sengoku jidai

>Heian Period (794 to 1185)
Insei Abdicated sovereigns in the politics of late heian japan 1086-1185

Suguwara no Mizhizane and the early heian court

Imperial politics and symbolics in ancient japan - the tenmu dynasty 650-800

Yoritomo and the founding of the kamakura bakufu

Friday, Karl (2007). The First Samurai: The Life and Legend of the Warrior Rebel, Taira Masakado

Friday, Karl (2003). Samurai, Warfare and the State in Early Medieval Japan

Friday, Karl (1992). Hired Swords: The Rise of Private Warrior Power in Early Japan

>Kamakura Shogunate (1192–1333)
Minoru Shinoda - The Founding of the Kamakura Shogunate 1180–1185. With Selected Translations from the Azuma Kagami

In Little Need of Divine Intervention: Takezaki Suenaga's Scrolls of the Mongol Invasions of Japan

Kenmu: Imperial Restoration in Medieval Japan H Paul Varley

The World Turned Upside Down: Medieval Japanese Society Pierre Souyri,

[Anonymous No.22987027]

>>22987020
>Muromachi Shogunate (1336–1573)

John W. Hall - Japan in the Muromachi Age-University of California Press (1977)

Japans Renaissance the Politics of the Muromachi Bakufu


A sense of place _ the political landscape in late medieval Japan

John W. Hall - Japan in the Muromachi Age-University of California Press (1977)

John Ferejohn, Frances Rosenbluth - War and State Building in Medieval Japan-Stanford University Press (2010)

The Origins of Japan’s Medieval World _ Courtiers, Clerics, -- Jeffrey P. Mass

Sengoku Jidai (1467 to 1603)
Sengoku Jidai. Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu: Three Unifiers of Japan

War and faith ikko ikki in late.muromachi japan

A sense of place _ the political landscape in late medieval Japan


Chris Glenn - The Battle of Sekigahara_ The Greatest, Bloodiest, Most Decisive Samurai Battle Ever

Hideyoshi - mary elizabeth barry

Japonius Tyrannus oda nobunaga reconsidered

Tokugawa Ieyasu - conrad totman

Conrad Totman - The Green Archipelago_ Forestry in Pre-Industrial Japan-University of California Press (1989) - why Japan is such a green place. Much of the forests and other greenery were destroyed and only restored in the early modern period

Samuel Hawley - The Imjin War_ Japan's Sixteenth-Century Invasion of Korea and Attempt to Conquer China


>Buddhism
Foundation of Japanese Buddhism: The Aristocratic Age Vol I
Foundation of Japanese Buddhism: The Mass Movement Vol II

Re-visioning _Kamakura_ Buddhism -- Payne, Richard Karl

Robert E. Morrell - Early Kamakura Buddhism_ A Minority Report

[Anonymous No.22987072]

>>22987027
Lady Sarashina's diary for a more "failed" version of the court lady.

missed one

[Anonymous No.22987336]

What are the best books on england the period of history does not matter whatsoever

[Anonymous No.22987393]

>>22987336
I found this one pretty interesting. The title pretty much says it all.

[Anonymous No.22987462]

>>22985383
>>22985711
You may also like Kagan's lectures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FrHGAd_yto&list=PL023BCE5134243987&pp=iAQB
the lectures are also found on podcasts apps if that is what you prefer. Quite good overall but it's obligatory to mention he was a neocon and sometimes he inserts that in the lectures. Wasn't a problem for me tho

[Anonymous No.22987492]

>>22987336
For Tudor history John Guy's Tudor England is very dense but I found it very good. Richard Rex for just a good narrative history of the Tudor monarchs. I really liked "The Emergence of a Nation State 1529-1660: The Commonwealth of England 1529-1660" cause it covers the Tudors/Stuarts as a unity which I feel is appropriate cause you see the transition from a strong to a weak kingship. Barry Coward covers the Stuarts separately in The Stuart Age, which also a good overview.

[Anonymous No.22987891]

Read picrel, and it was pretty good for a pop his book. Gonna read its sequel next.

[Anonymous No.22987899]

Any suggestions of what to read before I tackle Jonathan Sumptions books?
I read about 150 pages of the first book but I felt like I lost a lot of the context and Jonathan surprisingly doesn't go into depth about it

[Anonymous No.22987990]

>>22987899
>Any suggestions of what to read before I tackle Jonathan Sumptions books?

This is a nice series that overlaps
The Plantagenets series (also known as The Pageant of England) thomas costain
The Conquering Family (1949)
The Magnificent Century (1951)
The Three Edwards (1958)
The Last Plantagenets (1962)

if you want one volume then
>The Capetians 986 -1328

[Anonymous No.22988007]

books on the history of canada?

[Anonymous No.22988024]

>>22987899
>>22987990
>Thomas B. Costain's four-volume history of the Plantagenets begins with THE CONQUERING FAMILY and the conquest of England by William the Conqueror in 1066, closing with the reign of John in 1216.

>THE MAGNIFICENT CENTURY, the second volume of Costain's A History of the Plantagenets, covers Henry III's long and turbulent reign, from 1216 to 1272

>THE THREE EDWARDS, third in Thomas B. Costain's survey of Britain under the Plantagenets, covers the years between 1272 and 1377 when three Edwards ruled England

>The final volume in A History of the Plantagenets covers the century from 1377 to 1485 when civil war ravaged England, rebellious peasants marched on London and wandering preachers sowed dissent in the credulous poor.

>

[Anonymous No.22988250]

Mussolini and his Generals: The Armed Forces and Fascist Foreign Policy, 1922–1940

>This is the first authoritative study of the Italian armed forces and the relationship between the military and foreign policies of Fascist Italy from Mussolini's rise to power in 1922 to the catastrophic defeat of 1940. Using extensive new research, John Gooch explores the nature and development of the three armed forces, their relationships with Mussolini and the impact of his policies and command, the development of operational and strategic thought, and the deployment and use of force in Libya, Abyssinia and Spain. He emphasizes Mussolini's long-term expansionist goals and explains how he responded to the structural pressures of the international system and the contingent pressures of events. This compelling account shows that while Mussolini bore ultimate responsibility for Italy's fateful entry into the Second World War, his generals and admirals bore a share of the blame for defeat through policies that all too often rested on irrationality and incompetence.

[Anonymous No.22988398]

>>22987393
>>22987492
Thanks frens

[Anonymous No.22988408]

How’s the Sherston trilogy by Siegfried Sassoon?

[Anonymous No.22988481]

The Allure of Battle: A History of How Wars Have Been Won and Lost - Cathal J. Nolan

>The Allure of Battle systematically recreates and analyzes the major campaigns among the Great Powers, from the Middle Ages through the 20th century, from the fall of Byzantium to the defeat of the Axis powers, tracing the illusion of "short-war thinking," the hope that victory might be swift and
conflict brief. Such has almost never been the case. Even one-sided battles have mainly contributed to victory or defeat by accelerating erosion of the other side's defenses, resources, and will.

>Massive conflicts, the so-called "people's wars," beginning with Napoleon and continuing until the end of World War II, have been more fundamentally determined by prolonged stalemate and attrition, wars in which the determining factor was not tactical but industrial.

[Anonymous No.22988732]

>>22987020
>>22987027
bro.........

[Anonymous No.22988812]

you should only recommend a book here if you have at least read half of it.

[Anonymous No.22988901]

>>22987336
Yale Kings series are the best for any given King. I personally liked Henry the Young King the most but Henry III is the most complete treatment of reign and period there is on paper

[Anonymous No.22988904]

>>22987899
I honestly though he explained everything pretty well. The first two chapters are the 'background' chapters, everything else is narrative, analysis and such. Though the rest of the series is like that besides one chapter on Men at arms.

[Anonymous No.22989283]

>>22988812
That is a given, no?

[Anonymous No.22989295]

Too much war. Where's the good history?

[Anonymous No.22989629]

>>22989295
What do you want to read

[Anonymous No.22989631]

>>22989629
Uhm, I dunno, but there's got to be kino history that isn't about war.

[Anonymous No.22989636]

>>22989295
>>22989629
>>22989631
>2 hours 10 minutes ago
>4 minutes ago
>3 minutes ago
Go outside

[Anonymous No.22989639]

>>22989636
Only two of those are me, also no. The weather sucks and there's nothing to do. Stop trying to police me, tranny.

[Anonymous No.22989651]

>>22985503
>>22985383
I happen to have just finished the
>Herodotus->Thucydides->Xenophon (Hellenica only though)
pipeline. I ended it with Plutarch's Alexander, and I am wrapping up my study of greek history with the rest of Plutarch's lives (rereading alexander). I intend to use Plutarch to spring into the Romans:
>Plutarch's Romans->Livy up to the first gap->Polybius to fill in Livy->Livy past the gap->...Caesar? Seutonius?->Gibbon
Any recommendations about this?

I may use Monmouth to transition from GrecoRomans to British history after that. Would a deeper study of continental Europe be appropriate (beyond Gibbon)? Are there contemporary(ish) histories of HRE that are any good?
Any recommendations really appreciated. The Herodotus->Plutarch arc really inspired me and I intend to take this seriously. Someday I want to reread the greeks in their native tongue, so I might study ancient greek in parallel with my continuing history studies.

[Anonymous No.22989653]

>>22985692
>>Medieval Russia's Epics, Chronicles, and Tales (Zenkovsky)
just picked this one up from a used bookstore glad i picked right

[Anonymous No.22989851]

>>22989651
>Plutarch's Romans->Livy up to the first gap->Polybius to fill in Livy->Livy past the gap->...Caesar? Seutonius?->Gibbon
After Caesar and Suetonius, don't miss Tacitus. There's a tendency to skip him over because Suetonius covers most of the same period, but he's worth it for his writing style and the consensus seems to be he's the more reliable historian of the two.
Unfortunately, the only Roman historian of Tacitus' caliber afterwards is Ammianus Marcellinus, and while he continued where Tacitus left off, all the books covering the years 96-353 AD have been lost to history, leaving only 353-378 AD. For that period you're better off going with a modern author. Tbh the only book I've really read about this period is The Roman Empire at Bay AD 180-395 by Edward Potter, and I found it serviceable, though you're still missing out on the Nerva-Antonine dynasty, but Gibbon should have your back there. As long as you don't uncritically absorb everything Gibbon says, you should be fine, the dude was a great writer.
>Would a deeper study of continental Europe be appropriate (beyond Gibbon)?
Gibbon quite notoriously did the Byzantines/Eastern Roman Empire dirty, so if you're interested in that you would definitely be served better by picking up another volume, but I'm not enough of a Byzaboo to make a solid recommendation that goes in-depth on the period between Theodosius and the Komnenoi.
For a more general survey of the post-Roman period, if you want to transition to medieval history and the HRE, The Inheritance of Rome AD 400-1000 by Chris Wickham is a solid narrative history of the period, while taking the time to probe some of the popular conceptions of the period.
>Are there contemporary(ish) histories of HRE that are any good?
The only one that I can think of is Voltaire's Annals of the Empire, which is suspect since it's the original source of the:
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
meme.
Apart from that, the only recommendation on the HRE I can give that I've actually read is Heart of Europe: A History of the Holy Roman Empire by Peter H. Wilson, which is a recent work, so it might not be what you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.22990076]

>5 years later
>Nothing comes close to this

[Anonymous No.22990695]

>>22989631
just pick a region or era of history and we can find you a book, there is plenty of books out there that don't deal with war

>>22989636
he just replied to me quickly, that is all.

[Anonymous No.22990798]

>>22989295
>>22989631
Do you like dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures? Here's an interesting book about how giant fossilized bones influenced Greek and Roman mythology

[Anonymous No.22990944]

>>22986840
>>22986847
No, he was quite a respected german historian.

His research pointed towards some sort of grand calamity in the 10th century that left huge areas with a signature dark earth layer in the soil profile from ireland to the steppe, from nordic lands to egypt.
some sort of massive depopulation event possibly a comet
his work found problems with ascribing the same building types in different countries to different centuries when they clearly had to be contemporary

[Anonymous No.22991019]

>>22989851
>Gibbon quite notoriously did the Byzantines/Eastern Roman Empire dirty
Kys byzaboo

[Anonymous No.22991023]

>>22988732
>>22988812
>complaining about recs
Getting a full list is nice.

[Anonymous No.22991104]

Thoughts on this homo?

[Anonymous No.22991292]

>>22987020
>History of Japan by George Samson
>A History of Japan to 1334, Volume 1
>A History of Japan, 1334-1615, Volume 2
>A History of Japan 1615-1867, Volume 3

>Tales of the Heike (multiple translations avaialble) - Genpei War basically the Iliad of Japan
>The World Turned Upside Down: Medieval Japanese Society Pierre Souyri,
>Sengoku Jidai. Nobunaga, Hideyoshi, and Ieyasu: Three Unifiers of Japan

for those overwhelmed these are the ones you should read

[Anonymous No.22991391]

[Anonymous No.22991642]

>>22991019
>covers five centuries of Byzantine history in one chapter
Heh, nothing personnel Rhomaioi

[Anonymous No.22991654]

>>22991642
>poopadoulos started a civil war and the arabs, bulgarians, and turks took the chance to raid the empire
>repeat 10 times
here's your 500 years

[Anonymous No.22991717]

After Tamerlane: The Global History of Empire Since 1405 - John Darwin

>The death of the great Tatar emperor Tamerlane in 1405, writes historian John Darwin, was a turning point in world history. Never again would a single warlord, raiding across the steppes, be able to unite Eurasia under his rule. After Tamerlane, a series of huge, stable empires were founded and consolidated; Chinese, Mughal, Persian, and Ottoman—realms of such grandeur, sophistication, and dynamism that they outclassed the fragmentary, quarrelsome nations of Europe in every respect. The nineteenth century saw these empires fall vulnerable to European conquest, creating an age of anarchy and exploitation, but this had largely ended by the twenty-first century, with new Chinese and Indian super-states and successful independent states in Turkey and Iran.

[Anonymous No.22991958]

>>22991654
>missing out on Reconquista-style kino with the Macedonian dynasty
Sad

[Anonymous No.22992003]

>>22991958
>Reconquista-style kino
lmao conquering a sliver of syria for a few decades for a few decades. The crusaders did 10 times better

[Anonymous No.22992573]

>>22990798
It's probably just me, but prehistory is boring as shit. Anything before ooga booga monkey men is boring to me.

[Anonymous No.22992800]

>>22992573
Speaking of ooga booga monkey men, obligatory reminder that Rousseau was a colossal faggot, and there's a book to prove it

[Anonymous No.22993466]

The Civil War: A Narrative by Shelby Foote

The Centennial History of the Civil War by Bruce Catton

[Anonymous No.22993728]

>>22989851
Thanks for the thorough response. I have Agricola/Germania and have actually already read them (and loved them). My wife just sent me a pic of more Tacitus that I didn't know existed in our friends of the library shop -- Tiberius/Claudius/Nero in his "Annals". So I am definitely going to include him. Why do you say Gibbon did the Byzantines dirty?
Also I will likely read the Voltaire book; thanks for bringing it to my attention. I read Candide for leisure and really enjoyed it. Didn't know he wrote any history though. And thanks for the heads up to take him with a grain of salt. He was certainly the original edgelord

[Anonymous No.22993759]

You have read the entirety of The Years of Lyndon Johnson, right anon?

[Anonymous No.22993760]

>>22990798
I'm interested. There's a lot of unique extinct creatures, they look crazy, the world itself was completely different, they're basically like aliens, they should be more popular.

[Anonymous No.22993925]

>>22993728
>Why do you say Gibbon did the Byzantines dirty?
As this anon >>22991642 pointed out, Gibbon compressed five centuries of Eastern Roman history after Justinian into 30 pages. In general, Gibbon wasn't a fan of Eastern Roman history, but only did it because he felt he had to cover the descendants of Rome in his work. Here's an article by Steven Runciman (same guy who wrote the three-volume history of the Crusades) on Gibbon and why he wrote about Byzantium that way:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/20024419
The TL;DR:
>the Byzantine historians Gibbon was reading as primary sources were frankly not very good stylistically and focused too much on palace intrigue in Constantinople
>Gibbon himself didn't understand Greek as well as Latin, to the point where he might have been reading bad Latin translations of Greek original sources instead
>general anti-clerical spirit of the Enlightenment, which Gibbon absorbed, a spirit which the very Christian Byzantine Empire went against
>association of the Byzantine Empire with Louis XIV who was a patron of Byzantine history and therefore with despotism
>general somewhat justified perception of the time that the Greek Church was a backward and decayed institution based on traveler's accounts
It didn't help that Gibbon's work was so influential, so the idea of Byzantine history being purely about palace coups and power-hungry clerics became embedded in the Western intellectual mainstream for a long time.

[Anonymous No.22994547]

>>22993925
Interesting. Well, on that note... any good Byzantine histories (again, preferably contemporary(ish)) that I could read?

[Anonymous No.22994550]

>>22994547
By the way everyone is giving me much better answers than I got on /his/. Thanks very much

[Anonymous No.22994609]

>>22994550
i'd go for Diarmaid MacCulloch's a history of cristianity : the first 3000 years more broad than you asked for but really stellar. For a more extended look on byzantium you'll find no better than ostrogosky's History of the Byzantine State

[Anonymous No.22994887]

>>22994547
contemporary to the time of the byzantime empire or contemporary as in the modern day? As the other anon said, Ostro is classic but there is also Adrian Threadgold's Byzantine State and Society. Threadgold also wrote a "Concise history of Byzantium". Once upon a time I had a Mega full of history books that I made that got deleted, but I still preserved some of it I think. Here were my books on the Byzantine Empire. If you want primary sources (including Byzantine histories), you can look in there to get some ideas. The famous ones are Procopius, Anna Komnena, and Michael Psellos, though I think Procopius (tmk) is the only one with literary flair (i.e. readability)
https://mega.nz/folder/9pwCgRyT#6GYRy2GelJ9U_6PywG5rPQ

[Anonymous No.22994931]

>>22994887
https://mega.nz/folder/xkJShCzR#6GYRy2GelJ9U_6PywG5rPQ
sorry I had to move more books into it that got jumbled around after my files got partially restored

[Anonymous No.22994939]

>>22994887
Damn thanks bro

[Anonymous No.22994949]

Any suggestions for a book on the Byzantine Empire which is narrative heavy but not to the point of being a chronicle? Also some thematic digressions here and there

[Anonymous No.22995002]

>>22994949
I thougjt Threadgold was good for that. He basically will do narrative followed by analysis of the period covered (economy, society, culture, etc)

[Anonymous No.22995053]

>>22985378
What's a good book on the Great Depression? Something that covers the day to day life and how the affected countries pulled themselves out of it?

[Anonymous No.22995114]

>byzaboos ruin another thread
go shill somewhere else

[Anonymous No.22995131]

>>22990076
I will never stop shilling this book. It's just so fucking good.

[Anonymous No.22995177]

does anyone have recommendations for "history of science" stuff that isn't written for morons? I'd like to learn more about science but I don't want to read textbooks or those "how quantum physics can blow your mind" type books they sell everywhere

[Anonymous No.22995182]

>>22995177
A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson

[Anonymous No.22995414]

>>22994949
A Short History of Byzantium - John Julius Norwich

[Anonymous No.22995432]

>>22993759
>You have read the entirety of The Years of Lyndon Johnson, right anon?
No, of course not, we are waiting for the fifth volume. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.22995441]

>>22994547
Seconding the recommendation of Treadgold, "A History of the Byzantine State and Society." And shove Norwich up the asshole of whoever recommends it. Norwich isn't an historian, he uncritically cobbled together stories he could find, mostly from Gibbon's "Decline and Fall." Cringe!

[Anonymous No.22995499]

>>22995131
Based Patrick Radden Keefe enjoyer

[Anonymous No.22996032]

>>22995441
Norwich chads, for true Norman appreciators

[Anonymous No.22996041]

Looking for the best overall books on the Ottoman Empire

[Anonymous No.22996334]

>>22996041
you can try looking here
https://mega.nz/folder/A4YwFAAB#Y0Pi6svY28uEgoK8eVjVaw

[Anonymous No.22996358]

What's a good book or series of books on American history after the civil war up to Gerald Ford?

[Anonymous No.22996363]

[Anonymous No.22996372]

>>22985378

[Anonymous No.22996533]

>>22985378
Looking for books on Christian history and spirituality, especially from the first few centuries

[Anonymous No.22996618]

Any recs on the Moors in Spain or the reconquista?

Been in 3 of this threads and that's the one time period I'm interested in left that I didn't see a rec for

[Anonymous No.22996631]

>>22996533
Christendom: The Triumph of a Religion AD 300-1300 - Peter Heather

[Anonymous No.22997060]

>>22996618
There's The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise, often recommended by /pol/. Don't know how historically accurate it is though

[Anonymous No.22997070]

>>22996618
1996, Muslim Spain and Portugal: a political history of al–Andalus

[Anonymous No.22997460]

>>22997060
It it's recommended by /pol/ then I wouldn't count on it being very accurate

[Anonymous No.22997817]

>>22996618
there were 3 /his/ guides in here. I'll post them
https://imgur.com/a/7YLKv

[Anonymous No.22997821]

>>22997817

[Anonymous No.22997826]

>>22997821

[Anonymous No.22998671]

bump

[Anonymous No.22999412]

>>22988007
Pierre Berton has a lot of good jumping off points

[Anonymous No.22999741]

[Anonymous No.22999784]

>>22996533

[Anonymous No.23000501]

>>22985378

[Anonymous No.23000548]

Is Alessandro barbero any good?

[Anonymous No.23000721]

>>22995053
The Great Crash 1929

[Anonymous No.23000959]

>>23000501
Wilson is GOATed when it comes to Germany, although at times he does exaggerate things.

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[Anonymous No.23001864]

Has anyone read this? I've seen a few Youtubers shill it

[Anonymous No.23002776]

>>23001864
I thought it did a good job pointing out some of the holes in the "official" narrative, and that it introduced new and interesting information and potential leads.
That's the first half. The second half is kind of a let down. He gives the impression, while ostensibly remaining impartial, of being committed to an MK ULTRA explanation, but also not wanting to engage in wild speculation, so what you end up with is 200 pages toward the end of him trying and failing to substantiate that particular narrative. Then it ends.

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>>22992800
>reminder that Rousseau was a colossal faggot
civilisation is not synonymous with society.

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>>22993759
If it doesn't cover that he was a globohomo plant, it's fake history.

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>>22991104
Imagine actually reading this--much less writing it. Kek.

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>>22990798
Yes, I do. That does sound pretty cool. Thanks anon. I was banned for three days, so it took me a minute to answer.

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>>23002893
Surprisingly, the author died of AIDs

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Books on propaganda? Preferably from before the 21st century.

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>>23004864
The True Believer - Eric Hoffer
Propaganda - Edward Bernays
Bernays started modern PR as we know it, so any of his books will be insightful. Some of it will be stuff you probably already knew, but it's worth reading to see where it all came from.

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How do you absorb a historical text? Like do I just read it like any other book or do I treat it like a philosophy book.

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>>23005567
Sometimes I take notes on my books as I read them. I find it helps me remember things, and I can look back at the notes to check key points.

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>>23005567
Read it like anything else, just be ready to come back to it for reference.
Personally, I don't make extensive notes, just some light underlining and the occasional marginalia, and maybe make a note of certain pages with key ideas or quotable passages.

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>>23005650
>>23005664
okie dokie

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>>23005650
To clarify, since I just realized it sounds like I'm writing in the book, I take the notes in a notebook

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>>23005567
It's essential to have at least a grasp of the main currents in the historiography about the subject you're studying.

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>>23004912
Never much liked Hoffer as a person

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Freedom at Midnight

>A detailed narrative of the thirteen months leading to the independence of the Indian subcontinent in February 1948, centering on major and minor figures and on the social and personal upheavals attendant on independence and partition

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Liberty's Exiles: American Loyalists in the Revolutionary World

>On November 25, 1783, the last British troops pulled out of New York City, bringing the American Revolution to an end. Patriots celebrated their departure and the confirmation of U.S. independence. But for tens of thousands of American loyalists, the British evacuation spelled worry, not jubilation. What would happen to them in the new United States? Would they and their families be safe? Facing grave doubts about their futures, some sixty thousand loyalists--one in forty members of the American population--decided to leave their homes and become refugees elsewhere in the British Empire. They sailed for Britain, for Canada, for Jamaica, and for the Bahamas; some ventured as far as Sierra Leone and India. Wherever they went, the voyage out of America was a fresh beginning, and it carried them into a dynamic if uncertain new world.

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>>22987336
Anything of Marc Morris

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>>22996533
History Of Christian Though by Christopher Hill

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>>22985378
Good books on the Norman invasion?

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>>22985378
Does this still push the mainstream orthodox lie that the black death was caused by bacteria from a fleas coming in on the backs of rats on board ships ex-China? Or does it hint at the esoteric, arcane truth to the story which is it was brought on by the gods/demiurge and foreshadowed by astrological signs in the years and decades leading up to 1347?

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>>23009270
I'm intrigued, what actually happened? I assumed it was some sort of huge event
I recall people of the time complaining of miasma

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>>23009879
How does the book on the same topic by Peter Wilson stack up?

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Required reading IMO

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>>22990076
Okay. You can stop now. I'll get to reading it.

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>>22990076
>>22995131
>Ireland
>about events less than 50 years ago by the time it was written
This aint history and I'Íl never read it.

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>>23000501
I’ve read Europes Tragedy and his HRE one. Thanks, on the list it goes.

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I'm going to read A History of Greece to the Death of Alexander the Great by JB Bury once I'm done with Plato.

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Not sure if this is going to get me banned, but I need to ask an unrelated question and I don't want to shit up the board with a new thread and a thread about "historical" book fans seems apt enough.

I'm trying to get back into reading actual important literature AND fun literature. How much should I actually worry about censorship or revisions? As for an example, something like Nigger being taken out of certain versions of Huckleberry Finn. Now that's a very high profile case and not something that's going to trip me up, but what if I'm reading something less popular and the the owners of the rights decide to do something like perhaps remove a rape scene, change racist slang, etc.? Does that ever happen or is it just a problem magnified by American culture war bullshit? Should I always just go for the earliest, oldest publication possible?

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>>22985378
History of sedevancantism please

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Why, Collingwood's The Idea of History of course!

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>>22987336
The Norman Conquest by Marc Morris

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>>23013280
>How much should I actually worry about censorship or revisions?
Depends on the work and time period. If it's dealing with a generally "neutral" topic or period you should be ok with recent editions.
>Does that ever happen or is it just a problem magnified by American culture war bullshit?
Generally it hasn't really hit classic works outside of the US as badly, and in the instances where it does hit well-known classics (see Emily Wilson's translation of the Odyssey), it immediately stirs up some degree of controversy. You should be able to sniff out which ones have been bowdlerized or otherwise altered with some Googling.
>what if I'm reading something less popular and the the owners of the rights decide to do something like perhaps remove a rape scene, change racist slang, etc.?
You might encounter this problem more often with translations of works, rather than original English ones. It's far easier to do this with a translation since one could always justify it as part of the creative license of translation, compared to an English original text, where removing things would be seen as an attack on the inherent integrity of the work. In the latter case you would probably be able to find some book review or article taking note of the alteration or calling it out. Generally, you can figure out which translations might be suspect by reading the translator's note or introduction, as well as reviews on literary magazines or websites. Stuff like "translated for a modern audience" should tip you off if you can't find a negative review (again, the example of the Emily Wilson translation).
>Should I always just go for the earliest, oldest publication possible?
No, older is not always better, especially for English translations of non-English works. The Victorians were particularly fond of bowdlerizing works that were deemed to have themes too risque or immoral for the sensibilities of the time. A notorious example of this would be the Count of Monte Cristo, where to my knowledge, there's only one English version with all the stuff the Victorians cut out, that being Robin Buss' translation for Penguin.
Sometimes old translations also just kind of suck whether in terms of readability or faithfulness to the original. To give an example, P.A. Motteux's translation of Don Quixote (1700) - the oldest still in print - is serviceable but archaic and was already being scrutinized by Hispanists and translators in the 19th century. Tobias Smolett's translation (1755) is at best stylistically deficient, and at worst a plagiarism which fundamedntally alters the tone and spirit of the work, depending on which scholar you decide to listen to. By contrast, more recent translations like Rutherford, Grossman and Lathrop are generally regarded to be accurate, even if they vary in their literalism and differ in some stylistic choices (for example, retaining Thee and Thou in Don Quixote's monologues).

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>>23013667
That was an incredibly helpful post, thank you.

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It was kind of painful to read about how Spain got so thoroughly JUSTed when it had seemingly everything at the beginning