/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22982365]

>woman writes about loneliness

[Anonymous No.22982373]

>>22982365
missed these threads, best thread in /lit/ rn

[Anonymous No.22982384]

>female character has multiple boyfriends and close friends
>still suffer from loneliness

[Anonymous No.22982406]

[Anonymous No.22983896]

>>22982365
>woman writes
Could have stopped there OP

[Anonymous No.22983904]

>>22982365
Women are not capable of love and they don’t really love you.

[Anonymous No.22983942]

>>22982365
This thread never fails to make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.22983946]

there is no such thing as a lonely woman

[Anonymous No.22983951]

>>22982365
They are lonely for passionate emotions, not for physical affection; whereas the reverse is true for men.

[Anonymous No.22983962]

>>22983946
Why is that anon? Explain yourself

[Anonymous No.22983969]

>>22983962
they can literally download Tinder or bumble and get thousands of orbiters
being lonely is an option for women

[Anonymous No.22983982]

>>22983946
There are some, on the wrong side of 40 years old if barren and unmarried. There's a good number of lonely women of 80.

[Anonymous No.22983984]

>>22983969
And even the ugliest ones too I’ve seen it with my own eyes

[Anonymous No.22984711]

>woman writes about depression

[Anonymous No.22985243]

>>22983982
Those women are alone, not lonely. There's a difference.

[Anonymous No.22985261]

>woman writes

[Anonymous No.22985310]

>>22982365
>woman thinks her life has ANY struggle or difficulty and she doesn't live life on beginner mode and is the most valuable creature on earth

[Anonymous No.22985312]

>>22985261
>woman exists

[Anonymous No.22985368]

>>22982384
Being lonely is not synonymous with alone. Loneliness is a feeling and I don't find it at all absurd to experience it even when surrounded by people if one is not truly understood by them.
Superficial relationships are now the norm and everyone suffers for it.

[Anonymous No.22985606]

>woman

[Anonymous No.22985640]

This is why I cant take japan contemporary novel that features women loneliness (which mostly written by a women) seriously

[Anonymous No.22985663]

>>22982365
>implying hookups make women feel loved

[Anonymous No.22985679]

>>22982365
>>22985663
Men feel better as their body counts go up, while women feel worse, because men feel social approval through their sexual accomplishments, while society disapproves of women sleeping around. Modern hookup culture is only something men really want, and we only have it because of a minority of sex addicted men.

More and more women are ending up lonely in modern society, because less and less of them are finding partners who want to settle down and have children. That's what women ultimately want, and it's how they feel loved. They don't feel loved by guys who leave the next morning, or who tell them they're "not ready for kids" or "don't want kids," because it makes them think there's something defective about themselves.

Young men and women are both fucked by modern society. Humanity is spiraling into chaos and depression. Nearly all cat ladies are on antidepressants, remember that.

[Anonymous No.22985688]

>>22985679
>Young men and women are both fucked by modern society
Lmao. Women are literally surfing on sea of degeneracy that was made by modern society while men are drowned in it. You cant make this shit up anon

[Anonymous No.22985695]

>>22985688
>Women are literally surfing on sea of degeneracy that was made by modern society
Is that why more and more women are going to therapy and getting on antidepressants, or ending up as spinster Karens armed and ready with a full arsenal of feminist copes and cats? If you actually talk to women, most of them don't like hookup culture. It depresses them.

[Anonymous No.22985706]

>>22985695
and yet those same women engage in it because Chad's mere presence makes her tingle

[Anonymous No.22985712]

holy shit this made me laugh hard this is why i cant leave

[Anonymous No.22985722]

>>22985706
Most don't engage in it voluntarily. They want your bogeyman meme "Chad" to settle down and have children, too. But "Chad" doesn't want that, he just wants to fuck as many women as he can before he croaks, so all he ends up doing is emotionally scarring hundreds of women. Some women never realize what the problem is and they become full on whores until their dying day, but those that do eventually exit the game, and either start looking for younger depressed men to settle down with (the "betabux" dudes, who they only ignored before because they were immature), or they become quiet cat ladies removed from society or angry feminists who resent men.

[Anonymous No.22985727]

>>22985695
You dont know shit about women 'muh deppreshun' anon, their so called 'depreshun' is literally another tuesday for men, here's a real life case, the last time a female co worker talked about depreshun to me is something something related to social media and her ex, makes her felt depressed she said, cant eat food properly and didn't want to go to le office because of that, everyone worried think that she suffered from injuries or shit like that, turns out it was because of social media stuff problem, another female coworker had to go to her apartment and calmed her out because of that laughable 'problem'. And that was like two weeks
ago.

[Anonymous No.22985730]

>>22982365
LOL

[Anonymous No.22985731]

>>22985727
Statistics don't lie. More and more women are going to therapy and getting on antidepressants, usually around the time when they enter middle age without children (and sometimes, also without a partner).

[Anonymous No.22985734]

>>22982365
god, men are such self-pitying faggots. "waah i'm the only one that ever feels bad!" this is why women are repulsed by you and you'll never get any pussy.

[Anonymous No.22985736]

>>22985734
LOL

[Anonymous No.22985745]

>>22985731
Women goes to therapy like every single weeks for a nonsense problem, that's a general fact, everyone knows that. It wasnt our fault because they are weak and simple minded. Its their own fault for being weak and simple minded.
But then again, we're not talking about quantity here, we're talking about quality, what qualifies a women to be le depressed is absurd and laughable compared to men

[Anonymous No.22985752]

>>22985745
>Its their own fault for being weak and simple minded.
Sure, but you holding this against them also makes you weak and simple minded. Everyone in modern society is at a disadvantage now and growing up later than normal. Patterns of maturity are fucked for everyone across the board.

>what qualifies a women to be le depressed is absurd and laughable compared to men
Why? Justify your claims.

[Anonymous No.22985753]

>>22985734
>be woman
>meet predicament
>"Can I bring up sex and/or my pussy?"
>proceed as necessary
Simple as. Even when whining the solution is the same.
>>22985722
Not that I disagree with your observation but who is forcing them to be victims of this illusory "Chad" character? If Men and Women are equals, they should each be responsible for their own actions. Even the ones that feed into """Chad"""

[Anonymous No.22985770]

>>22985752
>Why? Justify your claims.
Because there's not a single women who faced the same hardships as men.
I refuse to answer your other question since it was pretty much the same as before and I consider that I already answered it before

[Anonymous No.22985776]

>>22985753
>If Men and Women are equals
first of all, nigger dont say things you dont believe in
second of all, women are victims of circumstance. broken birds that need a upstanding man to pick up the slack, fix their problems and take care of them. a man at this level is a loser and a leech who is better off killing himself if he isn't willing to change himself

[Anonymous No.22985779]

>>22985734
>be woman
>sitting in silence on porch in deserted ghost town
>hours pass
>bird caws in distance
>"INCEL"
>hours pass
>tumbleweed rolls by
>"YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO FUCK ME"
>hours pass
>sun sets
>"I BET YOU CAN'T EVEN GET PUSSY"

Get back in the rib

[Anonymous No.22985784]

>>22985753
>who is forcing them to be victims of this illusory "Chad" character
No one, but they only pursue that guy because he makes it his goal to be as seductive as possible, because he just wants to fuck as many women as possible. Immature women fall for it because they're biologically wired to. Blaming them for this is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.22985786]

>>22983969
>Only way to not be lonely is to get fucked
>Assume all women live in cities
This is why you're single.

Imagine being a lit woman with self respect living in bumblefuck Nebraska and all the men around you only talk about corn, trump, and vidyas.

[Anonymous No.22985797]

>>22985784
Then wht dont immature men do the same 'fall for it because they're biologically wired to'? Maybe to whatever chad version of women? I thought we were supposed to be equal? Or the narrative have changed?

[Anonymous No.22985804]

>>22985797
>Then wht dont immature men do the same 'fall for it because they're biologically wired to'?
They do. That's why so many young men today have porn addictions. They get lured into the seduction of it, even though it doesn't benefit them, because they're biologically wired to. Same principle at work.

[Anonymous No.22985822]

>>22985804
To add to that, I think "Chads" are falling for this too. However it is hard for men to accept that Chads are immature or that no one should envy them. What is terrible to me is that the glorification of the pornographic lifestyle has made the rest of people less willing to talk to others.

[Anonymous No.22985826]

>>22985786
Yeah not like the big exciting CITY LIGHTS!!! So many RESTAURANTS to go to! Fuck providers, fuck flyover state LOSERS!

Women are the ultimate vectors of decay in modern society, they are hedonistic consumers at core.

[Anonymous No.22985838]

>>22985822
The Chad meme is just a recycling of the Don Juan archetype in modern society. Don Juan was always a Peter Pan type with a mother complex in essence. So you're correct about this.

[Anonymous No.22985842]

>>22985804
>>22985822
Fair enough. But why did you bring porn addiction to your counter argument, saying that guy who lusted over chad version of women resorted to porn addiction but in your post in here >>22985784 you claim that chad wants to fuck as many women as possible and immature women fall for it because of biology aspect, by that definition, there shouldn't be porn addicted men because chad version of women might seduce and fuck immature men the same way chad seduce and fuck immature women, by your definition.
This one might be out of topic but your second post makes me wonder. this anon >>22985679 said that women felt worse as their body count goes up. Which means chad version of women, who fuck and seduce men, shouldn't exist because women is supposedly felt bad because of le modern something culture, but you claim that chads are falling for this too, which means women chad are also falling to this trick as well
The question is, why you both contradicting each other?

[Anonymous No.22985847]

Never fails to attract assmad woman defenders lmao. Godspeed OP, and thankyou for providing this circus.

[Anonymous No.22985857]

>>22985842
Sorry, the post here>>22985822
Is not the same anon you engaged with. I was giving my own take.

[Anonymous No.22985858]

>man writes about having friends
>women assume he's gay

[Anonymous No.22985860]

>>22985779
>>be man
>>sitting in silence on porch in deserted ghost town
>>hours pass
>>bird caws in distance
>>"I HATE WOMEN"
>>hours pass
>>tumbleweed rolls by
>>"WHY WONT THEY GIVE ME PUSSY"

[Anonymous No.22985865]

>>22985858
>Man treats female coworker like his male coworkers
>Gay rumors begin to spread

[Anonymous No.22985867]

>>22985860
I do this, very cathartic.

[Anonymous No.22985873]

>>22985842
The chad version of a woman is a prostitute. You can fuck them, almost anyone can. But many men won't because they know it's disgusting. A "Chad" however, will not ask for money to fuck a girl.

[Anonymous No.22985886]

>>22982365
Oh my god it's the fucking /mu/ guy. You poision every fucking board do you? Next you should head to /vr/ somehow

[Anonymous No.22985889]

>>22985886
didn't know he was this cool, damn

[Anonymous No.22985894]

>>22985368
People tell this guy this every fucking thread but he;s retarded he cannot absorb the information in his dense brain

[Anonymous No.22985902]

>>22985889
This kind of thread pops up weekly on /mu/ and I'm pretty sure its same guy. It's always a joker pic and the same words so I'm sure its the same guy. There's this misandrist femanon in /mu/ that makes response posts with sailor moon pics and I think that's one person too. You can easily search desuarchive for this

[Anonymous No.22985906]

>>22985894
>Thankyou anon for defending me, im so sad and lonely :(
>Time to fuck chad btw byebyee see yaaaa

[Anonymous No.22985913]

>>22985902
gotta hand it to him, knew he made these posts here but im surprised he can post on lightning speed boards like mu

[Anonymous No.22985923]

>>22985842
>But why did you bring porn addiction to your counter argument
Because men and women are not the same. For modern men, the "Chad" problem is porn. Men are biologically wired to enjoy porn the same way women are biologically wired to enjoy attention from Chad. In both cases, men and women are immaturely following their biological urges and becoming depressed eventually for it.

Also, I'm the guy who said women feel worse as their body counts go up.

[Anonymous No.22985930]

>>22985923
Not him but one of those is overdosing on something artificial and the other is overdosing on actual biological connections. I wouldn't even dare to compare these two.

[Anonymous No.22985936]

>>22985930
No, in both cases it's artificial. Hookups are a completely artificial phenomenon for women. They do not feel loved by getting fucked, they feel loved by getting impregnated with a ring on their finger.

[Anonymous No.22985943]

Can we go back to laughing at women?

[Anonymous No.22985945]

>>22985936
Artificial feeling for relationships. Not for the drive to have sex. At least they have a chance to get into one, the pornwatcher doesn't.
It really is apples and oranges, I'm sorry to inform you.

[Anonymous No.22985948]

>>22985943
indeed lets continue
>Woman wants to slim down
>It's been 7 years

[Anonymous No.22985949]

>>22985913
/mu/ isn't as fast nowadays. It probably is compared to this board though.
>>22985906
Nothing will penetrate your thick victim complex. You don't even want to try to be happy you just like being a victim

[Anonymous No.22985952]

>>22985949
I am happy and honest about it, no need to throw weird assumptions at me lmao. Happy and honest unlike these girlbosses DEFINITELY going through it fo shoa.
Why do they lie bros???

[Anonymous No.22985953]

>>22985945
>At least they have a chance to get into one, the pornwatcher doesn't.
"At least," except the relationships they're getting into aren't fulfilling for them. Meanwhile, the pornwatcher isn't cleaning up his act so he can be in a position to marry and have children, so in the end, women's options are narrowed to hookups in most cases.

[Anonymous No.22985957]

>>22985953
>The relationships they get into arent fullfilling to them
And there we have it. And to then blame the bad selection process on pornwatchers? Don't be obtuse, I thought you were arguing in good faith.

[Anonymous No.22985982]

>>22985779
>>22985860
the prophecy..

[Anonymous No.22985983]

>>22985982
LMAO

[Anonymous No.22985988]

>>22985957
>And there we have it
And there we have what? If you were following my argument at all, I've been saying all along that hookup culture is a thing men created and wanted. Women want to get married and have kids, not sleep around, and this is partially biological, partially society's disapproval (society is less disapproving of this towards men).

>And to then blame the bad selection process on pornwatchers?
They are being as immature as the women chasing after Chad. Both parties are to blame and need to grow up and work on themselves.

[Anonymous No.22985989]

women sit at the top of the sex market. Women are sex capitalists. It's women who organize the competition . It's men who compete for women and not women who compete for men. So they are right to be very strict about the rules. And since they are the queens, and 99% of men just live to provide for them, they have the luxury of rebuking any male quest they want and imposing on men various duties.

[Anonymous No.22985992]

>>22985988
Sorry but you have lost all credibility in my eyes. Men and women aren't the same alright, that's one thing you are right about. Nevertheless, reality won't change. Have a good day nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.22985996]

I know this is a controversial opinion these days, but men and women aren't that different.

[Anonymous No.22986008]

>>22985906
>>Thankyou anon for telling me how bad men have it, im so sad and lonely :(
>>Time to make another thread whining about the same thing

[Anonymous No.22986017]

>>22986008
>NOOO stop laughing at female "loneliness"

[Anonymous No.22986060]

[Anonymous No.22986071]

Loneliness is a male condition.
It's really hard for women to just drop out of society completely like your usual male loser "NEET" that it has to be on purpose. Also they're all crazy. At least be a whore. There is no female "Notes from Underground" for the same reason there is no female Jack the Ripper, etc.

[Anonymous No.22986076]

>>22985996
Men and women are the most different beings in the universe by design. Women are full-blown fucking retards by male standards. Women are also insanely miserable trying to be "no different from men." They sense their constant inferiority in serious matters and in cold, alienating, meaningless negotium.

[Anonymous No.22986104]

>>22986076
It might seem like men and women are very different but at a closer glance it cannot be like that. They come from the same society, produced by the same people, they are reflections of each other at best.

[Anonymous No.22986114]

>>22986104
They arent socialized the same, have different endocrine systems, have different lifegoals.
What they have in common is the need to eat sleep poop and that they will someday die.

[Anonymous No.22986137]

>>22986114
> They arent socialized the same,
Same household, same family gatherings, same school. They more or less are or you'd have to make a good case how not.
> have different endocrine systems
Socially irrelevant.
> have different lifegoals
They have distinct habitual preferences. As in life-goals, material well-being, having children and socializing are the same in men and in women. That's the point I'm making, men and women live in the same society, they can't be that different. If for instance women in a society are considered to have this and that defect, it's only exaggerated in women with men suffering from it too.

[Anonymous No.22986148]

>>22982365
You will never be as close to anyone as you are to yourself and women are susceptible to that as well, woe is me chuddie.

[Anonymous No.22986152]

>>22986137
Same household where they are treated differently, same for schools and family gatherings. The way friend groups based on gender behave is way different as well. Even girls will agree with me on this.
Their endocrine systems influence the way they behave, one at least has a shitty week each month, influencing the way they behave and act in civil society.
Different lifegoals which are also based on the biological differences. Women are more risk averse because of their more fragile bodies.
Seriously, why say all these things when it's only women who fear getting raped and only men who fear getting wrongfully accused.
I'm sorry but you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.22986159]

>lonely female doesn't ex-ACK!

https://www.reddit.com/r/ForeverAloneWomen/

[Anonymous No.22986168]

>>22986159
>This subreddit where fds users congregate is totally proof female loneliness exists bro

[Anonymous No.22986176]

>>22986152
I'm not saying they are 100% identical, there's a few minor differences here and there but that's it. And how are women treated differently from men? It is also the same conversations they listen to. Maybe they are told different things but everyone experiences that on an individual level so it doesn't matter. Yes men take more risks but in a society where men take a lot of risks women do alike, in proportion to the capabilities of their gender obviously. In a society where women take no risks at all men are alike, taking few risks, in proportion to their gender obviously. And in a society where women have a disproportionate fear of getting raped men have a disproportionate tendency to rape women. Wtf is this about men fear getting wrongfully accused? A man is more likely to take the blame for someone else instead of wasting time and energies on a fruitless discussion. It is women in the contrary never take the blame at all. However once again these differences can only mirror us the general state of society, and saying society is saying both genders.

[Anonymous No.22986181]

>>22985886
Based

[Anonymous No.22986184]

>>22986176
So it seems we agree but you don't see the differences as effectively changing much. Can't help that.
>And in a society where women have a disproportionate fear of getting raped men have a disproportionate tendency to rape women. Wtf is this about men fear getting wrongfully accused? A man is more likely to take the blame for someone else instead of wasting time and energies on a fruitless discussion.
It was obviously about getting accused of being a rapist bro, who the heckie would take the blame for that.
Your last sentence didn't run properly btw, i think i got the gist of it but ehh, anyway im glad you acknowledge the differences being a thing, shame you don't see them for what they are.

[Anonymous No.22986196]

>>22986159
The only one of these I believe to be lonely are the belgians. FDS girlbosses do it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.22986199]

>>22986184
That a man doesn't wouldn't take the blame for rape, well probably not but one has to get into such a situation in the first place.
I see the differences for what they are, irrelevant, men and women aren't separate entities, their characteristics are intimately tied to the relationship between the sexes itself.

[Anonymous No.22986204]

>>22986199
That's fine but it doesn't change reality. Your first sentence is also shoddy, not even trying to insult you but I hope you're well. Im beginning to think I didn't rest well enough myself.

[Anonymous No.22986208]

why is it hard for women to acknowledge that thanks to their orbiters they have an easy life

[Anonymous No.22986213]

>>22985368
>Being lonely is not synonymous with alone. Loneliness is a feeling
Yes and the problem is women will base everything on feeling. They will base everything on feelings they totally fabricate. To be a woman is to be a giant child, basically a subsaharan African except the world places way too much value in you and whatever stupid things you decide to say. Women will say "I feel lonely" the way they'll also say "I feel depressed" or "I feel frustrated" yet none of these assertions are truly those feelings, they do not correlate to the actual criteria of feeling those feelings, they are instead facsimiles that all mean a woman wants attention and to feel more valued. Again, for entirely fabricated reasons that aren't anything like true loneliness or depression.

Would you like to know the simplest way to recognize this is true? When a man is suicidal, he will tell no one and just go and kill himself. When a woman is "suicidal" she will expend all of her energy telling everybody and then be alive the next day.

[Anonymous No.22986219]

>>22986208
they know alright, it's just an elephant in the room thing, they're better off playing oblivious.
my last girlfriend's best friend played some dude for ages just so she could get things from him. my gf got so mad when i called her a bad person lmao. she wasnt even super pretty or anything.

[Anonymous No.22986220]

>>22986159
https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Femcel

[Anonymous No.22986244]

>>22986204
Reality is that you should press your nostrils together, instead of calling it a difference between the sexes again.

[Anonymous No.22986253]

>>22986244
Sorry, even women will agree with me, as does every authority in their field, may it be biological or sociologica or religious or whatever else have you. Every society and every person on earth has and will see the objectively true differences between men and women, and how important they are. No matter how insistent you want to be, you are wrong and noone will take this belief seriously. Not a single soul.

[Anonymous No.22986267]

>>22982373
OH FUCK I THOUGHT I WAS ON /TV/

[Anonymous No.22986290]

>>22986253
And id you would have read that's not the point I made men and women aren't 100% alike. But yeah, keep believing they are different species and that their differences are absolute and independant from each other.

[Anonymous No.22986306]

>>22986290
No you said the differences were negligible, I said they aren't at all. Which is factual. No need to shift the goalpost anon. No sizeable amount of people will adhere to your theory anyway, never have never will.

[Anonymous No.22986332]

>>22985679
>Modern hookup culture is only something men really want, and we only have it because of a minority of sex addicted men.
Modern hookup culture is something that a tiny minority of men capitalize on while a large amount of women orbit around them.
Sex addiction isn't real, by the way.

> That's what women ultimately want, and it's how they feel loved.
LOL
What women want is to fuck around with the top tier men throughout their youth and only when they hit 30 do they realize that they "need" a partner to settle down with, a partner that they don't really love, but require, and a partner who they don't passionately desire, but find useful.

>They don't feel loved by guys who leave the next morning, or who tell them they're "not ready for kids" or "don't want kids,"
And that's their own choice.
>because it makes them think there's something defective about themselves.
And there is, it's their entitlement, hypergamy, inflated and delusional sense of self worth, getting wet only for abusive, dark triad men with multiple women on rotation because men who already have options are automatically far more attractive to them than men who don't have options, men who are virgins, etc.

[Anonymous No.22986341]

>>22985695
>act in self destructive ways
>so lacking in self awareness they need a shrink to tell them why they feel the way they do
>take meds to numb the pain of the consequences of their poor decisions.

[Anonymous No.22986350]

>>22986341
this. women are like hypochondriacs anyway, will go to the doc for every little thing and those who sell pills love them for it. you cant pretend the pharmaceutical complex only capitalizes on druggies.

[Anonymous No.22986403]

>>22986306
The differences are indeed negligible and with that I mean that there's no fundamental difference between the sexes, only proportionally so.

[Anonymous No.22986417]

>>22986332
Your screenshot just shows that promiscuous people fuck each other. Majority of women don't engage with promiscuous activity ("hook up culture") according to the research you posted.

Seems pretty obvious that the majority of people, men and women, don't seem to like being promiscuous. Just a select few do.

[Anonymous No.22986424]

>>22983946
There is, but they're in their 40s

[Anonymous No.22986428]

>>22986403
Untrue and only you believe this. Noone else has or will believe that theory.

[Anonymous No.22986437]

>>22986428
Then what do other people believe in? That homo sapiens femininus and homo sapiens masculinus are two different species actually?

[Anonymous No.22986439]

>>22986437
>Two different species
Stop moving the goalposts and don't be obtuse, it doesn't suit you.

[Anonymous No.22986445]

>>22986417
and yet you choose to lay the blame on the men for this, isn't that curious?

[Anonymous No.22986449]

>>22986439
> it doesn't suit you
You haven't convinced me of anything except for your own stupidity.

[Anonymous No.22986451]

>>22986445
did so earlier too, women arent fulfilled because porn addled brain moids arent there to step up and be normal lmao

[Anonymous No.22986458]

>>22986449
You can't convince zealots. This is for the lurkers. Noone believes your theory and never will. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.22986460]

>>22986451
Re-read your sentence, you're painting women as le poor victims while the evil moids aren't taking responsibility for them

[Anonymous No.22986461]

>>22985992
Not an argument. You haven't said anything to refute my points at all.

>>22986332
>Modern hookup culture is something that a tiny minority of men capitalize on while a large amount of women orbit around them.
Yes, that's what I said.

>Sex addiction isn't real, by the way.
In a sense, sure. My point was more that these men's brains / physiologies are wired and designed to make them more aggressively pursue sex with lots of women. Plenty of men do not share this desire / wiring.

>What women want is to fuck around with the top tier men throughout their youth and only when they hit 30 do they realize that they "need" a partner to settle down with, a partner that they don't really love, but require, and a partner who they don't passionately desire, but find useful.
You can believe that if you want, but actually talking to women will reveal that most of them find hookup culture depressing. A large portion of women never even use dating apps for this reason.

>And that's their own choice.
It's also a young man's choice to blow his youth on porn and video games rather than developing habits that will position him to become a reliable, desirable mate. The point is that modern society is designed to prey on the biological wiring of naive young people. It's not an issue of men or women, but of the social structure itself, and you'll see this too once you get over your resentment.

[Anonymous No.22986465]

>>22986159
Doesn't that subreddit ban men from PMing to talk to self-idenfied lonely women?

[Anonymous No.22986478]

>>22986458
Until recently I believed the same stupid nonsense you do and everyone else does, until I thought it to the end wich you never will.

[Anonymous No.22986490]

>>22986461
>It's also a young man's choice to blow his youth on porn and video games rather than developing habits that will position him to become a reliable, desirable mate
Society is quite literally gimping males from a young age, punishing them for independence, activity and other typical male ways of doing things and rewarding obedience and stillness.
A young man "blows his youth on porn and video games" because he has been utterly broken and given up, when he sees no further hope for the future.
There is no longer any real reward or incentive for a man to become a "reliable desirable mate". The man that steps up and behaves responsibly is heaped with more things to be responsible for. The man who "does the right thing" often gets a selfless marriage with choreplay and nagging. It's not a surprise that men would rather receive the treatment that women give to fuckboys and players instead.
>but actually talking to women will reveal that most of them find hookup culture depressing.
Actions are more important than words.
And plenty of people find a life of working, getting wasted on weekends and getting high all the time depressing and they still do it.

[Anonymous No.22986491]

>>22986460
*he did so earlier too

[Anonymous No.22986493]

>>22986491
my apologies, continue

[Anonymous No.22986496]

>>22986478
You didn't achieve anything. What a waste.
>Surely everyone else is wrong but me
Sorry, but noone who is right thinks like this, you aren't Newton.

[Anonymous No.22986498]

>>22986496
You're annoying, bye.

[Anonymous No.22986507]

>>22986498
And you will never be right. Consider the nostril thing yourself. Better yet, tell someone this theory and get laughed at lmao.

[Anonymous No.22986515]

>>22986417
When women aren't hooking up, they're in "situationships" with chad. Or they spend a year in an abusive relationship with chad. Or they're FWBs with someone.
The study I posted doesn't seem to specify that it's only talking about one night stands either so it depends on your definition of what counts as promiscuous or not.

[Anonymous No.22986516]

>>22986507
I already know I'm right but you have no arguments anyways, no point discussing.

[Anonymous No.22986517]

>>22986490
>Society is quite literally gimping males from a young age, punishing them for independence, activity and other typical male ways of doing things and rewarding obedience and stillness.
I agree 100%.

>A young man "blows his youth on porn and video games" because he has been utterly broken and given up, when he sees no further hope for the future.
It's more that these things are designed to seduce him by appealing to his biological nature.

>There is no longer any real reward or incentive for a man to become a "reliable desirable mate".
There is, it's called getting married and having kids.

>Actions are more important than words.
Correct, which is why I brought up that more and more women are going to therapy and getting on antidepressants as they enter middle age without kids or partners and adopting copes of various kinds to manage their increasing loneliness.

[Anonymous No.22986536]

>>22986516
lol

[Anonymous No.22986541]

>>22986536
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.22986547]

>>22986541
lmao

[Anonymous No.22986548]

>>22986517
>It's more that these things are designed to seduce him by appealing to his biological nature.
I don't agree with this simplistic, religious assumption about biology. It's also within men's nature to want to achieve, to conquer, to overcome, to explore, to build, to create.
A healthy, fulfilled man doesn't get "seduced", as if by magic, toward pornography and video games, you really need to question your understanding of the mechanism that is 'addiction' and discard all moralistic assumptions about it. A healthy person can engage in those activities without it being a life consuming problem.
Do not mistake that which masks the pain for the cause of the pain.
>There is, it's called getting married and having kids.
This isn't a reward for men, it's more responsibility. And these days, it's basically nothing more than a huge risk for men too.
Only a woman can view marriage as a "reward" (a wedding is just the fulfilment of a big princess fantasy for her). The stereotype of the woman dragging the man to the wedding altar exists for a reason.

[Anonymous No.22986565]

>>22986547
And you have no gf.

[Anonymous No.22986568]

>>22986565
>HAVE SEX INCEL
>t. profound thinker

[Anonymous No.22986572]

>>22986548
>religious
What? Nothing religious about acknowledging that men are biologically wired to enjoy porn and video games. They both appeal to our visual, conquering nature. They are designed this way for profit.

>A healthy, fulfilled man doesn't get "seduced"
We're talking about kids, and young adults, who in modern society remain kids at an emotional level. Kids are easily led by the hormones in their brains.

>This isn't a reward for men, it's more responsibility.
Companionship, family, and social approval aren't a reward for men?

>The stereotype of the woman dragging the man to the wedding altar exists for a reason.
Because there are a ton of men who can't grow up in modern society. You're arguing in favor of manchild Don Juanism right now, and this is the shit that spawned hookup culture, which in turn is contributing to "inceldom."

[Anonymous No.22986581]

>>22986568
> I have never felt the touch of a woman
> now let me tell you about women

[Anonymous No.22986584]

>>22986581
>Lel you must suck at getting pussyskillz
>t. astute observer

[Anonymous No.22986590]

>>22986517
>There is, it's called getting married and having kids.
It's so sad when men are resigned to reproducing, something usually left to women, as the only way to have a "legacy." You're not bucking the system, you're coping with its castrating limits.
Marriage and child rearing in the modern day isn't going to make men out of boys anymore than it's going to automatically make women out of girls.

[Anonymous No.22986594]

>>22986572
>Nothing religious about acknowledging that men are biologically wired to enjoy porn and video games.
Then it's a completely trite thing to say.
>Kids are easily led by the hormones in their brains.
You're now moving the source from the actual substance to "hormones" in the brain.
This is still, in essence, a vague, quasi-magical explanation.

>Companionship, family, and social approval
You can get all of these without getting married.
>and social approval
Getting married for "social approval" is not only feminine behavior but also a great source of misery for many men.

>Because there are a ton of men who can't grow up in modern society.
No, I refer to that to highlight the difference in the male perspective and the female perspective on marriage. For men, a responsibility, something that requires giving up things to move on to. For women, a goal to check off, something to make them feel good and fulfilled.
>MAN UP AND GET MARRIED FUCKING MOID!
This is simply a pathetic social shaming tactic to get men to do what women want for no reward.

[Anonymous No.22986597]

>>22986590
>Marriage and child rearing in the modern day isn't going to make men out of boys anymore than it's going to automatically make women out of girls.
I agree, but I didn't say these things would do that. I said they're the reward FOR already having done that. People who go into marriage and children before having done that end up divorced and fucking over their children's lives.

[Anonymous No.22986600]

>>22986590
The sad part is how many people in the modern day now believe that a man getting married and having kids is the 'pinnacle' of masculinity.
What a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.22986605]

>>22986597
Even thinking that's a reward is crazy knowing how most women are socialized now

[Anonymous No.22986608]

>>22982365
>Woman writes about the importance of "a room of one's own"
>Get one
>Use it to copypaste the same schlock for eternity

[Anonymous No.22986628]

Woman are “lonely” in the sense that don’t have their own families, kin, etc.

Statistically and anecdotally woman largely wanting to be "modern" while at the same time wanting "traditional masculine" partners. So they exhibit contradictory principles or insane ideas on issues (like politics) because they’re just lonely, childless, and mentally ill. A lot of Democratic voters who are woman tend to be childish, a lot of millennials don’t have families.

But even in general, people who become isolated, especially woman, need social support and service, thus or else they become isolate unable to serve. Or to be served. To love and be loved. This is end stage secularism, really.

[Anonymous No.22986630]

>women

[Anonymous No.22986633]

>>22986594
>Then it's a completely trite thing to say.
Not trite at all. The point was, retard, that women who are orbiting "Chad" are falling for the same thing that men who are spending all their time on porn and video games do. "Chad" spends all his energy trying to be as seductive to women as possible; women who orbit him do so because it is in their biological wiring to do it. Men watch porn and play video games all day because it is in their biological wiring to, because these things are designed to seduce them. In other words, if you're going to blame women for chasing Chad, and call this their choice, then be prepared to blame men for watching porn and playing video games, and call that their choice too (what you should be blaming is capitalist society and Chad for both seducing young people down a path that doesn't really benefit them).

>You can get all of these without getting married.
Why do you care about this topic at all then?

>Getting married for "social approval" is not only feminine behavior but also a great source of misery for many men.
Military and corporate culture have always promoted family men further than the rest.

>This is simply a pathetic social shaming tactic to get men to do what women want for no reward.
Why is being told you're still a child a shaming tactic when society has always had rituals in place specifically to help young people mature? And it's not only men who need to grow up, it's the women orbiting Chad too.

[Anonymous No.22986640]

>>22982365
>he hasn't read the ambulance driver book

[Anonymous No.22986648]

>>22986630
>picrel
>average lonely woman online

[Anonymous No.22986649]

>>22982365
They are. Women are "lonely" in the sense that they lack their own families, kin, etc.

Both statistically and anecdotally, many women express a desire to embrace modernity while also desiring "traditionally masculine" partners. This as a result, they exhibit conflicting principles or unconventional ideas on various issues, which we see in politics. These contradictions can be attributed to loneliness, childlessness, and potential mental illness. It is worth noting that a significant number of female Democratic voters display immature, and many millennials are not having families of their own.

It’s important to recognize that individuals, particularly women, who experience isolation require social support and services. Without such support, they become further isolated and unable to contribute to society or receive the care they need. The fundamental human need for love, companionship, and the ability to both give and receive support is at stake here.

In short, I blame secularism. They have a lot of probables that Reddit atheism can’t solve.

[Anonymous No.22986652]

>>22986633
>Not trite at all. The point was, ...
This entire paragraph is a non-description
repeating that "it's just people's biological wiring" with no attempt at meaningful distinction between the specifics of said "biological wiring" is basically telling me nothing.
>In other words, if you're going to blame women for chasing Chad, and call this their choice, then be prepared to blame men for watching porn and playing video games,
This sentence is ultimately a pointless blame game and an attempt at not holding women accountable for their actions.
>(what you should be blaming is capitalist society and Chad for both seducing young people down a path that doesn't really benefit them).
People are not being "seduced" down a "path" they are wasting their time in nihilism and despair.

[Anonymous No.22986653]

>>22986649
I swear you just posted this, why remake this post friend?

[Anonymous No.22986656]

>>22986605
Read this part again:

>People who go into marriage and children before having done that end up divorced and fucking over their children's lives.

Applies to both men and women. Marriage and children are a reward for both, but only (and obviously) when both partners have adequately matured prior.

[Anonymous No.22986662]

>>22986656
>Marriage and children are a reward for both
lmao
this is like saying "working a job is a reward"

[Anonymous No.22986665]

>>22986656
>adequately matured women
I read it and understood already

[Anonymous No.22986675]

>>22986653
I’m phone posting and wanted to fix some spelling mistakes, but I still made some.

[Anonymous No.22986676]

>>22986652
>This entire paragraph is a non-description repeating that "it's just people's biological wiring" with no attempt at meaningful distinction between the specifics of said "biological wiring" is basically telling me nothing.
What more do you need to know? Do you really need the differences explained to you?

>This sentence is ultimately a pointless blame game and an attempt at not holding women accountable for their actions.
I am holding men, women, and society all accountable, retard.

>People are not being "seduced" down a "path" they are wasting their time in nihilism and despair.
Same shit, and yes, they do get seduced. People are vulnerable to being manipulated when they're young, naive, and immature, and our behavior is neurochemical in essence.

[Anonymous No.22986684]

>>22986675
I thought you only wanted to use proper spacing and the pic. It looked good enough to me back then but I understand.

[Anonymous No.22986686]

>>22986676
>Do you really need the differences explained to you
I've already given you a detail explanation which you promptly ignored or didn't register.
>I am holding men, women, and society all accountable, retard.
There's nothing women are responsible for, in your mind, that men aren't equally responsible for, or more so.
>Same shit, and yes, they do get seduced. People are vulnerable to being manipulated when they're young, naive, and immature, and our behavior is neurochemical in essence.
How you are confused at me calling this religious thinking is beyond me. As is the modern zeitgeist, we've replaced spirits with "neurochemicals"

[Anonymous No.22986693]

>>22986662
>this is like saying "working a job is a reward"
Having a career that makes use of your innate skills towards a meaningful social contribution is indeed a reward. Read Adler.

[Anonymous No.22986700]

>>22982365
>Woman breaks up with bf
>Posts about being lonely
>Lonelyposting stops 3 days later
>Dates someone new

[Anonymous No.22986702]

>>22986693
>psychoanalysis
thanks but I don't take that trash seriously.

[Anonymous No.22986710]

>>22986693
>emphasis on career
>emphasis on using your innate skills
>emphasis on meaningful social contribution
just like with marriage kek

[Anonymous No.22986711]

>>22986686
>I've already given you a detail explanation which you promptly ignored or didn't register.
Your explanation was shit.

>There's nothing women are responsible for, in your mind, that men aren't equally responsible for, or more so.
This is such a retarded interpretation. Both men and women are responsible for growing up. At the same time, we have to acknowledge how the social structure preys on everyone, and how pathological adults (e.g., Chad) prey on the young.

>How you are confused at me calling this religious thinking is beyond me. As is the modern zeitgeist, we've replaced spirits with "neurochemicals"
There's nothing religious here, it's science. Neuroscientists have been conducting studies for decades to confirm how our behaviors are led by our neurochemistry.

[Anonymous No.22986714]

>>22986710
>I don't need society cuz I'm kool
>me, a social animal?
>btw I hate women for not caring about me

[Anonymous No.22986716]

>>22986676
No him, but I a good example
of biological distortion of woman is their ability be me maternal and nurture.

For example, four dumb bitchs on the supreme court voted against Texas about to enforce its on border because they are likely moved by the stories of illegal aliens shoving their brown children through razor wire, they can’t enforce the law because of this distortion. Men would care about this because they would the skills to interpret the context of things, since the Governor is telling cunts to pound sand.

[Anonymous No.22986718]

>>22986714
>a career
retard a wagiejob is not a career

[Anonymous No.22986723]

>>22986711
>, and how pathological adults (e.g., Chad) prey on the young.
Here it is, exactly what I'm talking about.
No, women who fuck around with chad aren't victims. They get exactly what they want. The biggest victims are the men she turns to when she's 30 and done riding chad's cock and punishes for all of chad's behavior.
>There's nothing religious here, it's science.
Yes, the sciences have been polluted with reified religious thinking built on lazy assumptions and an inability to question ones own worldview on a deep level.
>Neuroscience
>neurochemistry
Quite frankly abysmal 'sciences' nobody should take too seriously.

[Anonymous No.22986730]

>>22986686
Not him, but a good example
of the unique biological disposition of woman is their ability be maternal and needing to nurture.

For example, four dumb bitchs on the supreme court voted against Texas to to enforce it’s own border from the waves foreigners pouring in is because they are likely moved by the stories of illegal aliens shoving their brown children through razor wire to get in illegally. Thus they are incapable of enforcing the law because of this distortion. Men would not fall for this, as terrible it may sound, because they have the skills to interpret the context of things in order to stop child trafficking, which helps those children by in enforcing the border — since the Governor of Texas is a man telling the four cunts to pound sand.

[Anonymous No.22986737]

>>22986730
Not him but this argument has a lot of what ifs and other assumptions. Not even denying the differences but this is quite the statement.

[Anonymous No.22986744]

>>22986723
>No, women who fuck around with chad aren't victims.
Why is a guy who does everything in his power to be seductive, for the sole purpose of having sex (not to be loving or considerate of the girl's well-being), not a predator? And why is a young girl who is being led by the chemicals in her brain, not a victim? Is the young guy watching porn not a victim either, then? Makes no sense, because you don't understand how behavior works (it's neurochemically motivated).

>Yes, the sciences have been polluted with reified religious thinking
There's nothing religious about anything I'm arguing.

>Quite frankly abysmal 'sciences' nobody should take too seriously.
And now you're the religious retard.

[Anonymous No.22986765]

>>22982365
>Not one person has shown proof for female "depression"
womanloverbros ...

[Anonymous No.22986772]

>>22986765
To be fair, it is real if we measure subjective anguish in an absolute sense. Women do technically experience 10-100x as much psychic pain and trauma from mildly not getting their way (after making a totally unreasonable demand of society or reality itself), than men experience while having their limbs amputated in a war.

[Anonymous No.22986780]

>>22986772
Reminds me of that quote that goes like
"Women are the true victims of war" and then not even when its about being raped by the enemy, just the losing of male friends and family members.

[Anonymous No.22986834]

>>22986718
Splitting hairs and missing the point

[Anonymous No.22986835]

>>22986649
>here are some social problems, political problems
>the solution is to intellectually lobotomize yourself

[Anonymous No.22986849]

>>22986834
no i got the point
>marriage is great when its perfect
it isnt usually so it isnt a reward
>a career is rewarding when its fulfilling, most people dont have careers
you are just a naive retard

[Anonymous No.22986858]

>>22986849
Marriage is what a socially well adjusted person wants, since by definition this person also wants children, and marriage is for the benefit of children. It is the reward when both partners have done the work to grow up and become socially well adjusted.

A job can be fulfilling for the same reason. You're getting hung up on the word "career" because you're missing the point.

[Anonymous No.22986866]

>>22986858
>you just like dont get it man
>you just have to use these specific terms in the way I want you to to get it bro
>marriage=good marriage=rewarding
>job=meaningful=rewarding
retard

[Anonymous No.22986880]

>>22986866
See >>22986714 again, since you didn't read it the first time.

[Anonymous No.22986885]

>>22986880
>Correctly understanding only good marriages are inherently rewarding and only careers are fulfilling, both of which the majority of the population don't have, means you hate society and hate people and think you are oh so above it all
retard

[Anonymous No.22986892]

>>22986835
Until we reverse the persistent decline of Christianity in America, not a single politician can help us.

[Anonymous No.22986895]

>>22986885
>Correctly understanding only good marriages are inherently rewarding and only careers are fulfilling
This is my understanding, too. Do you also understand that BOTH men and women are accountable for marriages being good, though?

[Anonymous No.22986903]

>>22986895
yes, we agree. the problem is accessibility to good adequately matured partners. not really the case aka average marriage is not rewarding like the average job.

[Anonymous No.22986939]

>>22986445
Nowhere in that post does it blame men. Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.22986952]

>>22982365
Men when they realise that not developing deep relationships with their freinds like women do may lead to them being more lonely and emotionally unintelligent

[Anonymous No.22986957]

>>22986952
>>22985982

[Anonymous No.22987121]

>>22985722
>Most don't engage in it voluntarily
Yeah don't you know the Match business group is going up to every single rotten cunt at gunpoint and FORCING them to use these apps.
Get a clue.

[Anonymous No.22987144]

>>22986213
I agree that some people do exaggerate their suffering and the term depression is often used more colloquially, reducing its severity. However, I do not believe that because one person seeks help to alleviate their suffering and another does not that that necessarily indicates that the former is not suffering at all.
I think this more likely stems from the fact that it is more socially acceptable for women to ask for help and it is also more common for women to seek validation outside themselves to confirm their worth. Whereas a man may be more inclined to look internally.

[Anonymous No.22987165]

>>22987121
Many girls don't use apps. Many girls who use apps also don't like hookup culture. That's why so many girls talk about "getting off the apps" as quickly as possible.

[Anonymous No.22987172]

>>22987165
talk is cheap, fatties talk about hating being fat and finally doing something about it. and yet....

[Anonymous No.22987184]

>>22986445
There would be no supply without demand now would there. Men could turn around at any moment and shun all whores, but they don't because they don't mind if a women is whoring herself out for him.

[Anonymous No.22987188]

>>22987184
do all women have to act like whores though

[Anonymous No.22987201]

>>22987172
Women are biologically oriented towards having children, and hookup culture denies them that biological instinct. Society everywhere also shits on them for sleeping around, and as more women enter middle age without children or partners, the more women get on antidepressants. In other words, in no world besides your delusional little one does the majority of women actually like hookup culture.

[Anonymous No.22987207]

>>22987201
and yet they participate it. no amount of coping will deny this and even if they do hate it, they wont stop. sounds like a them problem through and through lmao

[Anonymous No.22987209]

>>22987165
Women say a lot of things, you're supposed to watch what they do.

[Anonymous No.22987217]

>>22987207
They participate because either they don't have a choice (e.g., living in a remote area), they don't know any better (i.e., young and naive), or because they're just whores (which is a minority).

[Anonymous No.22987223]

>>22987188
Most women's behaviour is influenced mainly by what is deemed socially acceptable and I would go as far as claiming that this whorish culture is more than acceptable but even encouraged by modern society.
If whores were shunned and degraded as they should be there would be no more whores.

[Anonymous No.22987225]

>>22986600
Having kids is great!

Marriage? It can definitely be a fuck job because women can and will turn on you.

[Anonymous No.22987238]

>>22987217
>remote area
hookups dont work
>dont know any better
sure if under 24
>whores
idk.... like this anon said>>22987223
society makes whoredom socially acceptable. why not use the benefits of whoredom being accepted. they dont REMAIN whores i guess but a hoe phase is common lexicon for the average woman. i wish it wasnt.

[Anonymous No.22987248]

>>22987238
>hookups dont work
Still does for the guys.

>sure if under 24
Everyone is staying emotionally immature for longer these days.

>society makes whoredom socially acceptable.
I agree, this is another factor. Yet more women are entering middle age without children or partners and this is the highest demographic on antidepressants which continues to increase over time. Clearly women are not biologically oriented towards hookup culture.

[Anonymous No.22987250]

>>22987238
meant to say hookup apps lol. hookups dont work anywhere obviously.

[Anonymous No.22987257]

>>22985722
>They want your bogeyman meme "Chad" to settle down and have children, too. But "Chad" doesn't want that, he just wants to fuck as many women as he can before he croaks, so all he ends up doing is emotionally scarring hundreds of women.

Partly true but wrong because incomplete. The women *do* want Chad to settle with them, but they *also* want to reserve the option to potentially move onto something better one day in the future. Chad knows this is a possibility and is reluctant to fully commit. Women know he will be reluctant to commit, it becomes a feedback loop resulting in mutual defection.

[Anonymous No.22987273]

>>22987257
Women are really not nomadic like this. This is a systemic issue ultimately. Women want security and will stay with a man who continues to make her feel secure. But in the modern socioeconomic structure, security is highly turbulent and women sense it. It makes them anxious and flighty. Naturally though? They're docile nest builders.

[Anonymous No.22987289]

>>22987273
I can't imagine a time more stable than our times actually. What with all the diseases and wars and raids and what have you. No the difference is in having a steady supply of choice, not instability.

[Anonymous No.22987301]

>>22987289
>I can't imagine a time more stable than our times actually.
Meanwhile: constant mass layoffs, a diminishing middle class, a growing number of people on unemployment and welfare... yeah, real secure.

[Anonymous No.22987309]

>>22987273
They may want security, but they *need* vagina tingles as a prerequisite for any state of affairs they will voluntarily remain in

[Anonymous No.22987316]

>>22987309
They don't need it, but they'd like it, sure. They're animals just like men. Men need it as well.

[Anonymous No.22987318]

>>22987301
yes compared to the black plague, Mongol invasions, world wars, mass layoffs. lol we are coasting through history bro.

[Anonymous No.22987321]

>>22987316
Men want it as well*

[Anonymous No.22987326]

>>22987318
No one bases their decisions on past scenarios like this, though. They see what the current situation is and act accordingly. Women are nest builders, they want to stay in one place. They move around when they don't feel secure. Modern women do not feel very secure in modern society.

[Anonymous No.22987344]

>>22987326
I'm talking about how the difference is indeed the opposite of what you claimed. Not the instability, but the massive stability and choice. Your idea of woman being a nest builder is based on societies preceding ours, and those women lived in far more unstable times. The woman of today has something in her head which doesn't make her a nest builder, or distorts the drive at least. It's not instability as I have shown, their constant need for better and it being easily achievable sounds far more likely when one thinks about it.

[Anonymous No.22987347]

women owe me sex

[Anonymous No.22987351]

>>22987347
same

[Anonymous No.22987352]

>>22987316
They do need it and will often jeopardize their own security in pursuit of it

[Anonymous No.22987359]

>>22986744
Nope, in typical simp retard fashion, you refuse to hold women accountable for their actions
because you're some commie sounding fag you're assuming that "Chad" is the ultimate cause and perpetrator of the problem - he's not.
Chad is who women reward with their behavior, that guy is the type women choose to waste their twenties with, he's the kind of guy she thinks she deserves.
"Chad" is just a guy who gets women's attention and uses it.

>There's nothing religious about anything I'm arguing.
Try thinking less literally about the term "religious" you fucktard.

>>22987184
Women choose who they open their legs too. Men have to earn it. Even if all but 1% of men shunned whores, nothing would change.

[Anonymous No.22987421]

>>22987344
It's only opposite when compared with other times in history, which is the incorrect way to assess this, since again, people do not make decisions like this. Modern times are very unstable for a lot of people as I've explained with mass layoffs, unemployment and welfare, and modern economic issues caused by technological and cultural changes in general.

>The woman of today has something in her head which doesn't make her a nest builder, or distorts the drive at least.
Yeah, social pressure or neurosis, because modern society is garbage. But she still wants that, ultimately. That's why they continue to pursue it.

>>22987359
>you refuse to hold women accountable for their actions
Except I never did, I clearly believe that young women falling for these predators need to grow up.

>Chad is who women reward with their behavior, that guy is the type women choose to waste their twenties with, he's the kind of guy she thinks she deserves.
"Chad" is just a guy who gets women's attention and uses it.
They "choose" to do it, because he triggers the feel-good chemicals in their brains. Just like porn and video games do for men. Guess what? Everyone has to participate in the process of growing up. And yes, we should treat this faggot named Chad who is still hooking up with susceptible young girls in his 40s as a predator, because he's contributing to the species' downfall, just like porn producers and greedy corporations.

>Try thinking less literally about the term "religious" you fucktard.
Rigorous scientific study has led us to the discovery of the behavioral patterns I'm talking about. It's not blind conviction at all. We literally know how the brain works today, practically every little detail of it.

[Anonymous No.22987433]

>>22987421
Yes people only make decisions like this when they have the options to choose. That wasn't the case before. People had mass layoffs, unemployment, world wars, disease, disease, disease, crime and cultural changes.
The only difference is having more options. The social pressure to have stability is the same according to you so no need to bring it up. I'm not saying they don't pursue it. I am saying they are searching for far longer which can only be explained by having more to choose from, which wasn't an option for women in the past. We are literally saying the same thing.

[Anonymous No.22987446]

>>22987433
>people only make decisions like this when they have the options to choose.
You're ignoring WHY they are choosing. The basis for the choice is security.

>People had mass layoffs, unemployment, world wars, disease, disease, disease, crime and cultural changes.
And women always left their husbands or snuggled up with their captors when it suited them. The motivation has always been one thing: security, so they can pursue their biological drives to have children and build nests for said children.

>We are literally saying the same thing.
It appears so.

[Anonymous No.22987452]

>>22987446
You are ignoring HOW they are only know able to choose. Oh wait, so women aren't nest builders, they are opportunists. This wasn't what we agreed on.

[Anonymous No.22987453]

>>22987421
>young women falling for these predators
Bro did you get frozen in a block of ice 15 years ago and just wake up? Smart phones and social media have completely let the cat out of the bag. No one, not even normies, believes this narrative about women. Zoomer and younger men all feel in their bones that they are the prey and women own their asses.

[Anonymous No.22987458]

>>22985695
>If you actually talk to women, most of them don't like hookup culture. It depresses them.
Hookup culture could be ended in an instant if women could just close their legs.

[Anonymous No.22987461]

>>22982365
>whole thread is coping about how women totally aren't fucked up in the head sex addicts
>attempts at trying to prove they can have depression has been discarted
womanbros...

[Anonymous No.22987504]

>>22987452
>Oh wait, so women aren't nest builders, they are opportunists
There's no contradiction here. They can be, and are, both. Meanwhile, men can be, and are, both conquerors and opportunists.

>>22987453
>Zoomer and younger men
Neither of these groups know anything. Why are you listening to them?

>>22987458
And if seductive manipulators didn't do everything in their power to destroy the family unit just to have sex.

[Anonymous No.22987505]

>>22985826
and yet you seem to presume that ruralites are immune to degeneration due to mere distance. newsflash suburban larper, it's not the 1920s anymore. and even farmers these days just rely on machinery developed in urban areas.

[Anonymous No.22987515]

>>22987504
>Why are you listening to them
Because they are the ones who actually had to live through the realized consequences of your worldview

[Anonymous No.22987519]

>>22987504
a bird wants stabilty for its nest but it doesnt constantly look for better spots to nestle, thats how they arent nest builders.

[Anonymous No.22987523]

>>22987515
>the realized consequences of your worldview
>your worldview
And which one do you think that is?

Zoomers and young men might be actively in the dating scene today, but it doesn't mean they understand what's happening.

[Anonymous No.22987533]

>>22987519
A bird certainly does do that if it senses the environment is unstable, like turbulent weather.

[Anonymous No.22987542]

>>22987533
a bird is not constantly on the lookout for new spots even when all is fine actually. not to mention how nest building takes lots of energy for birds so theyd rather do things right the first time, and they most of the time do!

[Anonymous No.22987548]

>>22987542
>a bird is not constantly on the lookout for new spots even when all is fine
No, and neither do modern women in that case. Plenty of marriages don't end in divorce or have any betrayal occur in them, for example.

[Anonymous No.22987555]

>>22987548
Modern women are constantly on the lookout. Not knowing is one thing but lying phew.... I'm not even talking about marriages, just relationships in general. We don't even have good data on millennial relationships anyway. Lots don't marry and boomers and genxers did divorce en masse. Zoomers are too young to marry so no good stats on them either.

[Anonymous No.22987560]

>>22982365
>200 posts in
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[Anonymous No.22987572]

>>22987555
>Modern women are constantly on the lookout.
Plenty are not. Do you think absolutely everyone is cheating, monkey-branching, or divorcing? You're beyond paranoid and sheltered then. Lots of girls don't even use apps because they scare them or are disgusted by hookup culture and assume that's all the apps are for.

[Anonymous No.22987583]

>>22987572
I dont think they actively or consciously do this no. You yourself admitted earlier to them being opportunists. Sounds like you just don't wanna deal with being wrong. Lots of girls do try them, have you asked? I have, even in professional instances. Lots of girls even go on apps for fun and engagement, just to laugh at others. Yes sure "some" girls may be afraid but that's far from reality. If anything women are far more naive and believe these apps aren't solely for hookups. Were you around when tinder Friends was a thing? Or how bumble and these "women friendly" apps were marketed. No sirree no fear there. Generalizations can be made when talking about groups.

[Anonymous No.22987587]

>>22987572
Women looking for better men is a fundamental force of the universe. Loyalty is a masculine trait.

[Anonymous No.22987657]

>>22987587
I can't cope with this...

[Anonymous No.22987659]

>>22987583
>You yourself admitted earlier to them being opportunists.
Within the context of being nest builders, yes. They will pursue the opportunity to partner with a man who can provide them with greater security for themselves and their children. They're not unique in this way, either; men are also opportunists within the context of their own biological nature, which is oriented towards conquering.

>Lots of girls even go on apps for fun and engagement, just to laugh at others.
All humans have the potential to be cruel, and all young people are easily led by the chemicals in their brains. Modern society also encourages this in various ways and even hinders young people's emotional development by constantly hijacking their dopamine receptors. All the shit you complain about with women is really just an issue with being young, because young men are susceptible to the same thing (hence porn and video games being prevalent among them).

>>22987587
Most men aren't loyal either. The "fundamental force" of mammals in general is having kids — for men, this means spreading their seed as far as possible, and for women, this means locking down the most successful and reliable men possible.

[Anonymous No.22987670]

>>22987659
Yea so it's silly to call them nest builders when you yourself talk about their innate drive for constantly having better. Better security means bettee satisfaction of that inner voice afterall. Women before didnt have that choice but women today do so here we are.
I don't complain about it, Im being realistic lol. Do you think I have some personal gripe with women?
You're missing the point. All I said was that women are, contrary to what you say, not afraid of dating apps. Im glad you now seem to understand though, yes modern society has indeed influenced women to eagerly use datingapps.
We are back on the same page again.

[Anonymous No.22987680]

>>22982365
Female loneliness is just hysteria. Goes to show how sluts dont experience loneliness like uggos.

[Anonymous No.22987683]

>>22987670
>Yea so it's silly to call them nest builders when you yourself talk about their innate drive for constantly having better.
Better providers for their nests. They seek "better" for their nests / children. Nothing silly or contradictory about what I'm saying.

>All I said was that women are, contrary to what you say, not afraid of dating apps.
Plenty of women are. Lots of women don't use apps. There's several reasons why that is, and being afraid of them is one of those reasons.

>We are back on the same page again.
If you agree that society and biology are the culprits and both young men and women need to work on growing up so they can form mutually beneficial partnerships, then yes, we're on the same page.

[I ignore women No.22987687]

>>22982373
It's not quite the same but I'll take it

[Anonymous No.22987690]

>>22987683
It is silly to call them that because the term doesn't encompass them but whatever floats your boat.

Most women aren't afraid of them and you'll be hard pressed to find women who have never used social media or dating apps for dating.

Idc about equal culpability, dunno why you keep mentioning that. All I replied for was this topic >>22987273
Don't care about "both sides need to grow up" talk. It takes two to tango but that has not much to do with women's innate drive and desire.

[Anonymous No.22987693]

women this women that
but being a man as nature intended fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.22987700]

>>22987693
DONT COMPLAIN INCRL

[Anonymous No.22987702]

>>22987690
>It is silly to call them that because the term doesn't encompass them
Except it does? Explain how it doesn't.

>Most women aren't afraid of them
The younger we go, the less likely they are, maybe. Yet there's still women who are, even among the young ones. But the real point here? Even when they're not afraid of them, most of them are disgusted by hookup culture. Most aren't voluntarily participating in this culture, except when they're whores, and whores are whores for neurochemical reasons too, but this is not the norm (although, there's a case to be made that modern society is trying to make it the norm, and slowly succeeding as time goes on).

>It takes two to tango but that has not much to do with women's innate drive and desire
Their only innate drives are to have children and build a nest. The rest is fluid, a matter of brain structure evolving according to environmental pressures.

[Anonymous No.22987705]

>>22987693
Nah, but we live in an inclusive society, so if you don't want to live as nature intended, feel free to not

[Anonymous No.22987710]

>>22987702
Hmm i have gotten all i needed from this actually, thankyou.

[Anonymous No.22987714]

>>22982365
>24(6) replies
/lit/ has fallen

[Anonymous No.22987715]

>>22987705
>Nah
why?

[Anonymous No.22987716]

>>22987714
Women need to be protected and ridiculed at all times.

[Anonymous No.22987721]

>>22987715
Plenty of ways to be a man and still enjoy life today

[Anonymous No.22987722]

>>22987721
name 3 that arent traditional

[Anonymous No.22987728]

>>22985368
That may be true to an extent, but I sympathize less with someone who has frequent passionate sweaty orgasmic sex with multiple partners. That loneliness is not nearly as bad as true loneliness.

[Anonymous No.22987733]

>>22987722
Be a digital nomad and fuck girls in SEA countries
Be a wealthy business magnate and fund cool projects
Be a gamer living on NEETbux and getting weed legally

[Anonymous No.22987737]

>>22987728
you dont get it, they dont want frequent orgasmic sex with strangers. its like being porn addicted.

[Anonymous No.22987742]

>>22987733
>adventurer/mercenary
>businessman
>not even a man just a biobag wasting away "living"
2 out of the three are traditional ways of being a man. how depressing

[Anonymous No.22987744]

>>22987742
You label too many things as traditional and exclude them for no reason, this is your problem

[Anonymous No.22987748]

>>22987744
no you just dont have anything to say despite implying there are non nature intended ways to live as a man

[Anonymous No.22987751]

>>22987748
You're unhappy because you choose to be

[Anonymous No.22987752]

>>22987737
>its like being porn addicted
No it's not. Women watch porn too, so they have the fantasy shit and the real shit. You're telling me a girl is lonely until she's married? Again, whatever that feeling is, is nothing compared to actually being alone.

[Anonymous No.22987755]

>>22987751
im happy, just saying living as nature intended sucks. also
>become a wealthy businessman
come on now man you cant actually be serious lmao

[Anonymous No.22987759]

>>22987752
women read porn, other than that I agreed actually lol.

[Anonymous No.22987764]

>>22987759
Oh you were being sarcastic lol, I get it now

[Anonymous No.22987776]

>>22987764
no problem ami

[Anonymous No.22987777]

>>22987728
For women, a committed relationship is as important for sexual pleasure as the beauty of their partners is for men.

I knew a guy at the gym in my town who had a rotation of girls from apps. He was a pro, the kind of guy who was fucking a different girl every week. He showed me pics to prove it. He told me his secret: he told every single girl that he was exclusive with them. He was banging 4-5 girls at a time, all of them under the assumption they were in an exclusive relationship. Soon as one girl caught on, he would cut off contact and look for someone else to add to his rotation.

[Anonymous No.22987796]

>>22987728
>sweaty orgasmic sex
You’d be surprised, I don’t have numbers to give you but most men suck at making women feel good during sex.
If you want an analogy, it’d be like being in a deserted island with one boar, a lion and 10000 worms. One’s tasty, the other is tasty too but is likely to kill you, and the rest are undesirable, sickening or unsatisfying.
>why not plants
Would you want a basedboy for a lay?

[Anonymous No.22987798]

>>22987777
>Assuming they didnt have a roster
Oh you sweet summer child. Good for him though, hole is hole. Hope he didn't catch anything.

[Anonymous No.22987800]

>>22987796
Holy newfag lmao

[Anonymous No.22987804]

>>22987798
Girls have a roster only when they know guys do and when they want to compete with guys on this.

[Anonymous No.22987808]

>>22987804
Oh you sweet summer child

[Anonymous No.22987812]

>>22987808
>child
I'm in my 30's and married. You're a solipsistic retard like he was, on the other hand.

[Anonymous No.22987814]

>>22987812
Lol that explains it

[Anonymous No.22987818]

>>22987814
I wasn't married when I knew him. That faggot remains unmarried however, and he was becoming grouchier and more paranoid as time went on. But I see how you completely disregarded my point since it doesn't suit your agenda.

[Anonymous No.22987823]

>>22987818
>I am right because I can't be wrong and if I say things enough times you surely will agree with me
I don't even believe you are married boy, take it easy. Women have rosters and fuck, deal with it. Your "wife" probs wasnt a virgin when you met her anyway.

[Anonymous No.22987830]

>>22987823
>Women have rosters and fuck, deal with it.
Just trashy whores do this.

[Anonymous No.22987833]

>>22987830
Yes, and as fate will have it....
Lmao, you sweet summer child alright. 30s and thinks he is wearing big boy pants, come back in 10 years buddy, see how your tune will change.

[Anonymous No.22987840]

>>22987833
>I ended up a loser in my 40's, so everyone else will too
I wonder why you ended up that way, too. Could it be you're a sexist piece of shit?

[Anonymous No.22987846]

>>22987840
>Only I can be married and correct about everything at all times, I ALREADY TOLD YOU WOMEN DONT FUCK AAAAAA
Lol, like I said, it's obvious to me anyway. Good luck in this world bro, you'll need it.

[Anonymous No.22987865]

>>22987846
No woman loves you because you're a pathetic womanizer or a would-be, and not for any other reason.

[Anonymous No.22987878]

>>22987865
>t. corpulent millennial
You mentioning your age was the final nail in the coffin. All you can do is assume because nothing else fits your disney princess influenced worldview.
>ONLY WHORES HAVE ROSTERS AAAA
>I HAVE A WIFE YOU WILL LISTEN TO ME AND AGREE
HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.22987885]

>>22987878
>You mentioning your age was the final nail in the coffin
Age is irrelevant, coping womanizing faggot. Keep grasping at straws though.

[Anonymous No.22987886]

>>22987885
>NO U
HAHAHAHAHA OHOHOHO

[Anonymous No.22987889]

>>22987886
>NO U
Give nothing, get nothing.

[Anonymous No.22987892]

>>22987889
Noone should've given you anything boy
picrel btw

[Anonymous No.22987896]

>>22987892
You get no pussy because you give nothing women want. All love is conditional, including yours, remember that.

[Anonymous No.22987898]

>>22987896
Lmao

[Anonymous No.22987932]

>>22987830
tbf it's kinda hard for women to not take the trashy whore route in an era without your churchgoing's grandma's wisdom yet with the pill. same phenomena as men becoming neets; water takes the path of least resistance.

[Anonymous No.22988088]

>>22986581
>>22986565
>>22986541
>>22986516
>I won
>there is zero reason to continue this..
>let me stick around though
>deploy >>22985860
LOL

[Anonymous No.22988092]

Almost at bump limit boys, who's making the next woman hate thread? Let's keep this train rolling

[Anonymous No.22988110]

>both men and women are just waiting for the other shoe to drop all the time
>no one loves anyone
>everyone is resentful and bitter
This species deserves to end

[Anonymous No.22988115]

>>22988092
I think we've had this exact same thread on /mu/ for 6 months now, if I recall one anon counted it had been posted 200 times on jan 1.

[Anonymous No.22988125]

>>22982365
>>22982373
>>22982384
>>22983946
>>22985310
>>22985736
>>22985826
>>22985943
>>22986662
>>22986903
>>22987523
>>22987728
>>22987892
>>22988110

>Waaaaaaah I suffer even though I live in a first world country and have no struggles because uh....masculinity is in crisis or something about the Roman Empire
You fags are so pathetic. Get a grip. Just because women have it even easier in social scenarios doesn't mean you don't already have an easy life. Man up. Stop being a faggot. Depression isn't real. Are you in immediate danger? Are you starving? If not, shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.22988127]

>>22987702
>Most aren't voluntarily participating in this culture
You keep on quoting this mysterious group of hidden women who don't use the apps as an excuse, but there doesn't seem to be any evidence they exist.
Would you like to provide some?

[Anonymous No.22988129]

>>22988115
Clearly it needs to happen more. Even THOUGH all arguments turn into variations of >>22988088

[Anonymous No.22988135]

>>22988125
>If not, shut the fuck up.
Make me you dirty, thick lipped negro.

[Anonymous No.22988140]

>>22988115
It needs to happen more even THOUGH all arguments are variations of simps insisting they are right and then resorting to >>22985779

[Anonymous No.22988157]

>>22985368
Yeah sure, your point is that loneliness isn't "having nobody around" it's "having nobody you feel connected with" but ironmanning OP, the point was that they can easily get people in their lives, they just choose the wrong ones likely using superficial indicators so it's entirely their fault. When something is entirely the fault of the person's flaws that they could alleviate if they toned down their ego, it is hard to have sympathy for their suffering.

[Anonymous No.22988161]

>>22988127
>there doesn't seem to be any evidence they exist.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/

>3 in 10 US adults have used a dating site or app
>34% of men have
>27% of women have
>% increases the younger you go

[Anonymous No.22988163]

>>22988135
Whiter than you Mohammed. Only negroes complain about made up oppression like muh depression or alienation keeping niggas down n shieeet

[Anonymous No.22988165]

>>22988125
>you don't already have an easy life
I don't though. I'm balding, manlet, dicklet and neurodivergent.

[Anonymous No.22988179]

>>22988165
>Umm chuddy, I'm trans, have anxiety and bisexual
Grow up. Real men introduce themselves by their career not made up tik too bullshit

[Anonymous No.22988227]

>>22988165
>I'm balding, manlet, dicklet and neurodivergent.
You are whatever you choose to focus on, actually.

[Anonymous No.22988238]

>>22988125
>le first world countries are good because... le wealthy!
typical rootless immigrant. read about decadence, the poor experience it here too so it's not just a neurotic richfag issue.

[Anonymous No.22988245]

>>22987800
I’m an ‘016er not a newfag
I felt like writing the analogy, it sounded good in my head

[Anonymous No.22988254]

>>22988238
>Ummm I struggle because of something I read on a right wing twitter post... Le decadence, y'know like heckin' ROME!

You don't struggle. Stop making excuses

[Anonymous No.22988258]

>>22988125
I wish my problems were as simple as not having enough food.

[Anonymous No.22988268]

>>22988258
Emo faggot. Grow a pair. You're just ugly. But so are a lot of people. You are not a hopeless romantic or a super speshul man against time like Hitler or Napoleon. You ain't an anime protag lil bro

[Anonymous No.22988270]

>>22988268
>You're just ugly
I'm not ugly, my brain is fucked due to my coke addict dad

[Anonymous No.22988274]

>>22988163
kill yourself you newfag

[Anonymous No.22988308]

>>22988270
Don't respond to that guy, they're only there to bring you down. Good luck man.

[Anonymous No.22988328]

>>22988254
oh wow you even know the meme arrow and the meme words, you've assimilated into our culture so well cabron. too bad your middle class kid will hate you for leaving la patria.

[Anonymous No.22988340]

>>22988157
>they just choose the wrong ones likely using superficial indicators so it's entirely their fault.
I agree that people play their own part in selecting who they surround themselves with. In some cases it even seems that some of them want to be lied to, to be fed their idealised version of what they believe a relationship should be, in which case I can agree with you.
However, I think it is more difficult now than probably in all of human history to form meaningful connections with others due to the superficial milieu we find ourselves in.

[Anonymous No.22988350]

Are there any books about autistic or practically autistic women who have no friends, who only interact with their family and coworkers who are disgusted by her and who has never had sex before

[Anonymous No.22988374]

>>22986196
>Belgium

[Anonymous No.22988452]

>>22987225
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.22988958]

>>22982365
not this thread, again

[Anonymous No.22988962]

>>22987421
>Except I never did, I clearly believe that young women falling for these predators need to grow up.
They aren't victims, they consent to, allow and reward those men.
They aren't poor widdle victims, this is the coping boomer father mentality.
Chad isn't a predator, Chad is a result of women's hypergamy.

>They "choose" to do it, because he triggers the feel-good chemicals in their brains.
If you're going to do the "we're just victims of le brain chemicals" then there's zero point to you even arguing in the first place. If you think human beings are just meatbot slaves to le brain chemicals then how can you sit here and argue that "Chad" is doing something wrong?
>p. And yes, we should treat this faggot named Chad who is still hooking up with susceptible young girls in his 40s as a predator,
Way to miss the point so deliberately.
>Rigorous scientific study has led us to the discovery of the behavioral patterns I'm talking about.
This is only how people who have never participated in said scientific process talk about the scientific process.

[Anonymous No.22989005]

>>22988350
No. That's a man situation.

[Anonymous No.22989221]

All women are whores, including your mother and sister. God hates women, and so should you.

[Anonymous No.22989247]

>>22988962
>If you think human beings are just meatbot slaves to le brain chemicals then how can you sit here and argue that "Chad" is doing something wrong?
He's not doing "something wrong," but he has the upper hand over these girls, because he's older (often by a lot) and more conscious of how to manipulate the chemicals in their brains than they are. This makes him a predator, and young girls, who are tricked into having sex with him under the guise of exclusivity and eventually children, should be educated on the matter.

>This is only how people who have never participated in said scientific process talk about the scientific process.
Prey tell what is the proper way to talk about this process, then. Or do you not want to get into it because you don't actually have anything to say?

[Anonymous No.22989254]

>>22985734
Women, specially in this day in age, are masters of the art of feeling sorry for themselves and their condition. They resent men, all the time, as such every piece of entertainment that asserts the idea of feminism revolves around resentment.

[Anonymous No.22989270]

>>22989247
Why do you think Chad is significantly older?
Take a look at the high school and crap instances; younger, hotter guys are slaying girls left and right without getting any older.

[Anonymous No.22989275]

>>22989247
Also, modern women are not coerced into having sex. With the power of the media and the government at their disposal, they would wreak havoc if this deception was even somewhat accurate.

[Anonymous No.22989281]

Modern women are the players in the game. They understand the rules and know how to break them.

[Anonymous No.22989284]

>>22989247
>because he's older (often by a lot)
This was never a requirement for "chad" you're spinning your own gay little "women are always victims and have no agency" narrative.
>and more conscious of how to manipulate the chemicals in their brains than they are
Nope
> This makes him a predator, and young girls, who are tricked into having sex with him under the guise of exclusivity and eventually children, should be educated on the matter.
No, these women fuck around and only when they hit 30 and their womb starts feeling empty do they decide "oh shit i need to settle down, ill find the first sucker who provides for me heehee"
Stop with your gay little victim narrative, it's not true.

>Prey tell what is the proper way to talk about this process, then. Or do you not want to get into it because you don't actually have anything to say?
It's a waste of time because you simple cannot grasp what I am trying to tell you.

[Anonymous No.22989289]

>>22989270
>Why do you think Chad is significantly older?
Because he's only interested in sex, and younger girls are easier.

>>22989275
Any girl coming from a decent family has to be coerced into hookup culture, or into having sex with a guy coming from that culture.

>>22989281
You put women on a pedestal. They aren't that smart.

[Anonymous No.22989298]

>>22989284
>This was never a requirement for "chad"
Chad of the previous generation often turns into this older predator guy that I'm talking about, because he's following the chemicals in his brain too, and he spent all his time fucking in high school, so his brain is wired to keep wanting sex with younger girls into middle age.

>Nope
Yup. Only reason why some guys are laying lots of girls, especially on apps. They know how to push the right buttons in women's brains; they spend years cultivating an appearance solely to have as much sex as possible.

>these women fuck around and only when they hit 30 and their womb starts feeling empty do they decide "oh shit i need to settle down
This is a fantasy. What's really happening is this: most women who fell for these guys don't realize they were being played until they hit their late 20's. They were told lies, or they were abused (Chad loves to neg and play games when it suits him), and it took distancing themselves (often with the help of a therapist) or mere aging for the chemicals to wear off, so they could more clearly see the situation for what it is.

>It's a waste of time because you simple cannot grasp what I am trying to tell you.
Nice cop out.

[Anonymous No.22989304]

You believe that Chads are only interested in fucking some tight pussy.
Also, no one wants to fuck the elderly.

Who pushed the hookup culture?
Didn't women's movements advocate for sexual revolution?

[Anonymous No.22989307]

>>22989298
>This is a fantasy.
>my fantasy is more real, see!
fuck off retard
These women are conscious of the men they prefer and they are conscious of how arbitrary their standards are for men.
> most women who fell for these guys don't realize they were being played until they hit their late 20's. They were told lies, or they were abused
Reddit cope narrative.
>(often with the help of a therapist)
>help of a therapist
LOOOOOL

>Nice cop out.
Sorry, I don't spoonfeed people with asperger's, especially if they want to keep stubbornly asserting their retarded fanfiction like nobody has laid out why they are wrong.

[Anonymous No.22989313]

>>22989304
>You believe that Chads are only interested in fucking some tight pussy.
Because they are. Chad is a caricature / meme, this person doesn't really exist. In reality, the guys who spent high school and college having lots of sex on account of their natural gifts or inherited social status typically become wired to want sex with young girls into middle and old age, as often as possible, (literally) like needing a drug. That's just how the brain works. There's a Hindu proverb:

"In the first 30 years of our life, we make our habits. In the last 30 years of our life, our habits make us."

>Who pushed the hookup culture?
These guys.

[Anonymous No.22989314]

>>22989289
>You put women on a pedestal. They aren't that smart.
Says the cunt in the Thai Basket Forum.
Women travel the world fucking chads left and right, then return home, find a beta, and settle down. However, after a few years, they divorce and grab all of the money.
rinse and repeat!

[Anonymous No.22989316]

>>22989313
>These guys.
outright wrong but because you're a commie fag you have to punch """up""" as far as you can
women control access to sex
women choose to let chad pump and dump them
women use their inflated value when they are young and waste it having hookups.

[Anonymous No.22989317]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect

[Anonymous No.22989320]

>>22989307
>These women are conscious of the men they prefer
No they aren't, and they aren't conscious of why they prefer them (it's all neurochemical).

>Reddit cope narrative.
>"It's Reddit because... I don't like it!"

>LOOOOOL
Young people need the assistance of more experienced adults to get through the challenges in their lives. What do you think the role of a shaman / ritual elder was in the tribal era? It was precisely to help the next generation grow up. Read a book on anthropology sometime.

[Anonymous No.22989321]

>>22989317
>nono bro you don't get it, women are always victims of their circumstance, if their life went bad she got COERCED by a big bad man!
>now MAN up and look after chad's kid OK! she couldn't help getting knocked up and left by him ok!!!

[Anonymous No.22989322]

No, sir, ladies are amazing creatures who cannot do wrong. When it comes to taking responsibility for their actions, they begin pointing fingers left and right.

[Anonymous No.22989326]

>>22989320
so basically
>women are just poor widdle chidwen and evil CHADS prowl around CORRUPT those innocent young ladies who were all PURE VIRGIN ANGELS before then with NO SINFUL DESIRES!!!
>stop blaming women! chad used his magic chemical mind powers to MANIPULATE her BRAIN CHEMISTRY and that's why she was so adamant she would only fuck 6'2+ men with tattoos and chiseled jaws!
> Read a book on anthropology sometime.
imagine needing to reach this hard because you won't accept your narrative is retarded

[Anonymous No.22989327]

Sir, you cannot hold me accountable for my conduct because my brain operates automatically due to my retarded state.

[Anonymous No.22989328]

>>22989314
>Women travel the world fucking chads left and right
Not many women at all do this.

>then return home, find a beta, and settle down.
You spin this narrative where women are conscious of everything they do only because you're insecure or are dealing with trauma of your own. Most people, both men and women, are just led by the chemicals in their brains, and aren't conscious of a damn thing they're doing. Most of these women who spent time with these guys, meanwhile, eventually become regretful of their pasts, because they realize how naive and gullible they had been. If they fail to change things around and secure the kind of man who can really make them happy, then they enter middle age on antidepressants and become cat ladies or angry feminists, which we're seeing more and more of as time goes on.

>>22989316
You're clueless as to how life actually works. All you terminally online retards are.

[Anonymous No.22989330]

>women aren't responsible for what they do it's their brain chemistry
>chad is responsible for his actions THOUGH

[Anonymous No.22989331]

>>22989328
>You're clueless as to how life actually works. All you terminally online retards are.
I hope she sees this bro

[Anonymous No.22989333]

>>22989328
>not many women at all do this
Who gives a flying fuck!
It doesn't have to be 100%, just enough to make you doubt
if your ladies were that pure, guys wouldn't travel to other nations to find a wife

[Anonymous No.22989334]

>>22989317
They aren't wonderful, they're pretty dumb and animalistic overall. However, they are female mammals, and like almost all other female mammals, what they really want is to build nests and raise children — not get fucked by a middle aged sex addict. But they get roped into doing this precisely because that guy is really good at seducing them (almost always at the expense of their mental health, because the older he gets, the more abuse he needs to lay on them for it to work).

[Anonymous No.22989339]

>>22989334
I don't give a fuck if they have the mental capacity of a 4 yr. old, you sexist swine. Women are capable of as much as the average guy. If you don't take responsibility for your actions and blame third parties or chemicals on your brain, you're a retard. Please kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.22989341]

>>22989322
>>22989327
>>22989330
>>22989331
Cope

>>22989326
>>22989333
When will you realize that I ultimately put the accountability on everyone involved? It's not "women are pure good, chad is pure evil." But we have to acknowledge that:

1. Hookup culture was created by Chad
2. Chad doesn't care about anything besides sex
3. The older Chad gets, the more abusive he becomes

This is how it is, if you're honest about how things work.

[Anonymous No.22989350]

>>22989334
>human beings are incapable of holding two desires at once, women just want to have kids, they don't really enjoy sex anyway!
imagine being this retarded
>But they get roped into doing this precisely because that guy is really good at seducing them
Yeah Chad is so SKILLED at standing 6'5 feet tall and being born with a jawline sharp as a knife.
>because the older he gets, the more abuse he needs to lay on them for it to work
Cute headcanon
>>22989341
>When will you realize that I ultimately put the accountability on everyone involved
No, your bullshit little narrative about chad is you deferring responsibility from women to the guy at the "top" of the pyramid.
Women are not being enthralled as if by magic to ebil abusers, their egos are so large that they all flock to the same kind of guys who they believe they deserve.

Crazy that this is the depth of the kind of person who whines about "capitalism" - a complete carciature.

[Anonymous No.22989353]

>Chad is forcing women to have sex, even if they do not want to.
fucking retard

I am not interested in what Chad cares about, those thots do

[Anonymous No.22989359]

>>22989341
Please take your own life and blame it on us. The world will not loose anything valuable.

[Anonymous No.22989364]

>>22989353
>you see guys, don't hold women responsible for their behavior, it's CHAD you really need to take it out on!
how long until he realizes women will side with chad against him in this scenario?

[Anonymous No.22989366]

>>22989350
>they don't really enjoy sex
Oh, they enjoy sex plenty. However, when they come from a decent family, they want sex with a guy who they are in an exclusive relationship with. Chad, meanwhile, is an abusive liar; he tells them they're exclusive, but they aren't.

>Yeah Chad is so SKILLED at standing 6'5 feet tall and being born with a jawline sharp as a knife.
These characteristics are what gets him lots of sex when he's younger, but when he's in middle age, this shit doesn't work anymore like it used to. He needs to start manipulating then.

>Women are not being enthralled as if by magic to ebil abusers
Never said "by magic" or anything like this. I said chemicals in the brain. This is the opposite of magic.

>their egos are so large that they all flock to the same kind of guys
Nope. Their brains all work the same, and those guys push the right buttons for the feel-good chemicals in those brains, naturally.

When everyone is young, no one is to blame for what happens. It's the middle aged predators who are the problem.

[Anonymous No.22989368]

>>22989353
>I am not interested in what Chad cares about
And that's why you don't understand the origin and nature of hookup culture properly.

>>22989359
>Please take your own life
Why would I do that? I love my life.

[Anonymous No.22989371]

>>22989366
According to your logic, I could rape and kill your mother in front of you based on chemical signals in my brain.

[Anonymous No.22989374]

>>22989366
>however, when they come from a decent family, they want sex with a guy who they are in an exclusive relationship with.
lol
>These characteristics
Not engaging with your retarded fuckwit fanfiction.
>Never said "by magic" or anything like this. I said chemicals in the brain. This is the opposite of magic.
I like how you're so autistic you read this 100% literally and STILL can't understand what is being said. tThink about the term "AS IF BY" and try again.
>and those guys push the right buttons for the feel-good chemicals in those brains, naturally.
This is not a real thing.
>It's the middle aged predators who are the problem.
Shifting the narrative to "it's middle aged men that are doing it!"
lmfao

[Anonymous No.22989375]

my tribal instincts demands me to rape your mother

[Anonymous No.22989379]

>>22989368
You don't need to grasp the chad mindset to realise that 2 + 2 = 4. To penetrate ladies must open their legs. Your grandmother and the girls you're defending were aware of this.

[Anonymous No.22989380]

It's all Chad's fault; God taught him the methods. Meanwhile, young females are retarded and just know how to open their legs.

[Anonymous No.22989381]

>>22989371
>>22989375
Brainlets

>>22989374
>Not engaging with your retarded fuckwit fanfiction.
Because you fear the truth.

>I like how you're so autistic you read this 100% literally and STILL can't understand what is being said.
You meant to say that I don't know the details, I just use chemicals as a means of hand-waving away further explanation. Except I've done the reading, extensively, for years. I know my theory is superior to everyone else's here.

>This is not a real thing.
Read at least one book on neuroscience. Just one. That is precisely how the brain works. Social interactions are like pushing buttons in the other's brain to release chemicals.

>Shifting the narrative to "it's middle aged men that are doing it!"
Shifting? No, this was my argument from the start.

[Anonymous No.22989382]

Whatever happened to girls maturing faster?

[Anonymous No.22989387]

>>22989379
>To penetrate ladies must open their legs.
Yes, but they open their legs only under certain conditions — typically, when they trust the guy they're with. Trust is extremely important for women. i.e., they aren't the ones who are lying to have sex.

[Anonymous No.22989388]

>>22989381
Fuck off, cunt!
You have the IQ of a toodler.

[Anonymous No.22989391]

>>22989387
define one night stands, cunt!
she's not trusting the guy, she's trusting the big daddy gov.

[Anonymous No.22989392]

>>22989381
>Because you fear the truth.
I fucking hate arguing with autistic retards like you so much
>IT'S TRUE IF I KEEP SAYING IT IT'S TRUE IF I KEEP ASSERTING IT
>I just use chemicals as a means of hand-waving away further explanation.
>Read at least one book on neuroscience.
No it's just fundamentally a retarded non-explanation. It's like trying to tell me how a computer works because it's warm in some places.
>Except I've done the reading, extensively, for years. I know my theory is superior to everyone else's here.
Sad LARP and even if it wasn't LARP I still wouldn't take you seriously.

>No, this was my argument from the start.
And as I called you out earlier, it's a bogus narrative you're spinning and it was never in the parameters of "chad" that he needs to be a middle aged man.

[Anonymous No.22989394]

>>22989391
Most girls feel depressed after one night stands.

[Anonymous No.22989396]

>>22989394
I don't give a flying fuck how they feel.
I'm only interested in what they do.

[Anonymous No.22989398]

>>22989381
this dude is so full of himself he'll keep making the same retard arguments until the thread is dead

[Anonymous No.22989401]

>>22989398
might be a hole

[Anonymous No.22989403]

>>22989392
It's true because it is, not because I say it is. Science supports it. Read books, like I've done.

>it was never in the parameters of "chad" that he needs to be a middle aged man.
Chad gets old too, you know. He's not the guy in the meme images that get spread around. Do you realize that reality isn't like your memes?

[Anonymous No.22989404]

>>22989401
I would laugh if it was to be honest

[Anonymous No.22989407]

>>22989396
>I'm only interested in what they do.
So then why don't you care that relationships with Chad almost never work out and eventually, women do end up raising a family with the "beta"? Is that all coincidence in your head? It just keeps on working like that because reasons?

[Anonymous No.22989408]

>>22989403
>Science supports it. Read books, like I've done.
Ah, I see you're into Basedence, where everybody agrees on one thing and it has to be true because there's always a big mountain of evidence.
Don't try to pull this bluff on me, I'm not as stupid as yourself.

[Anonymous No.22989410]

>>22989403
shut the fuck up, hole!
your retarded science doesn't take any accountability or what

[Anonymous No.22989411]

>>22989408
>science is le religion of the modern world!
Read a fucking book, moron.

[Anonymous No.22989413]

>>22989411
You're the dumb fuck treating science as if it's the catholic church, fuck off retard

[Anonymous No.22989417]

>>22989413
>You're the dumb fuck treating science as if it's the catholic church
I'm not, this is just your inferiority complex projecting onto me.

[Anonymous No.22989420]

>>22989407
because that doesn't matter to me
>women do end up raising a family with the "beta"? Is that all coincidence in your head? It just keeps on working like that because reasons?
working? by your standard maybe? birth rates are going down everywhere
define divorce then, and most of the time it's initiated by women

[Anonymous No.22989421]

>>22989417
>I'm not, this is just your inferiority complex projecting onto me.

[Anonymous No.22989423]

Funny how terminally online retards think women are these master manipulators from birth, yet think a middle aged guy could never be such a thing, or if he is, it's irrelevant. It's always solely the woman's fault, even when she's a teenage girl.

[Anonymous No.22989426]

Dumb fucking whore refuses to accept responsibility and blames CHAD!
How convenient!

[Anonymous No.22989429]

>>22989420
>birth rates are going down everywhere
Due to factors not relevant to this conversation.

>define divorce then, and most of the time it's initiated by women
Most divorces are with Chad.

[Anonymous No.22989430]

>>22989423
Yes, women are terrible gender, and their rights should be purged from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.22989431]

>>22989430
And there it is.

[Anonymous No.22989432]

>women have no agency it's this highly specific group of middle aged men that are MANIPULATING these poor girls!
LMAOOO
A used up roastie is making this argument after she got pumped and dumped by tyrone in college

[Anonymous No.22989434]

>>22989429
Please kill yourself, you idiotic dumb piece of shit. I would like to tourcher your entire family and burn them to the ground for raising a faggot like you.

[Anonymous No.22989436]

>>22989431
if you didn't believe this was a woman before, here you are

[Anonymous No.22989438]

>>22989432
Hookup culture is a historical anomaly and a modern phenomenon contingent on both modern technology and yes, this specific group of middle aged men who became sex addicts on account of their lifestyles as high school / college Chads.

>>22989434
>I would like to tourcher your entire family and burn them to the ground for raising a faggot like you.
Mental illness.

[Anonymous No.22989440]

>>22989438
Sorry but stubbornly reasserting your point as if nobody tore it up in front of you doesn't make it less false.
You could lose some weight fatty, maybe stop blaming capitalism and middle aged men for your miserable life.

[Anonymous No.22989443]

Women just want high-earning guys who score a six in everything, but much of that has nothing to do with this conversation. Women are whores and lazy, and they want everything spoonfed to them.

again nothing do with this convo

[Anonymous No.22989446]

If I just keep repeating and blaming Chad, then everyone will be convinced.

[Anonymous No.22989452]

Obviously, everyone is incorrect, and I am the only right one in here.

[Anonymous No.22989460]

>>22989443
nono you don't get it chad means whatever i want it to mean. for the sake of this argument chad is a 40 year old man manipulating schoolgirls into sex and then beating them up!

[Anonymous No.22989461]

>>22989440
>as if nobody tore it up in front of you
Nobody did, you low IQ twat.

>>22989443
>>22989446
>>22989452
Mind broken

[Anonymous No.22989463]

>>22989461
no it's your hole that is broken

[Anonymous No.22989465]

>>22989461
>Nobody did, you low IQ twat.
Ignorance won't make my arguments go away either
take responsibility for something in your life, maybe start with a diet and getting some exercise fatty

[Anonymous No.22989473]

>>22989465
>take responsibility for something in your life
I did. After browsing this garbage site for almost 14 years, I went to therapy, then entered my first serious relationship, and got married. And what have you accomplished in comparison?

[Anonymous No.22989480]

Incoming cope about "first serious relationship" — I had relationships prior to this, but they weren't serious. This was the first real, long-term one founded on principles and shared values.

[Anonymous No.22989481]

>>22989473
you're still browsing and still blaming chad
don't think therapy did any good to you

[Anonymous No.22989487]

TL:DR

It is entirely CHAD's fault that your average ladies are prostitutes.


fucking waste of time and bandwidth

[Anonymous No.22989491]

>>22989473
>>22989480
so your entire argument was based on solipsistic assumptions that the very specific circumstances of your own relationship must explain the behavior of every other woman today?
this is your average socialist btw

[Anonymous No.22989500]

>>22989480
> I had relationships prior to this, but they weren't serious. This was the first real, long-term one founded on principles and shared values.
Lmao, what do you think alpha fucks beta bucks refers to?

[Anonymous No.22989502]

bruh, you could pull apart each and every aspect of that thot theory with actual data.
baka for wasting so much time with that hole

[Anonymous No.22989510]

>>22989481
I browse for an entirely different purpose now, and not as often.

>>22989487
The average girl isn't a whore.

>>22989491
Not a socialist. And no, my argument is based on extensive reading, therapy, and life changes that resulted in a mature relationship.

>>22989500
It's a cope created by middle aged losers who are single or struggling to keep a girl around.

>>22989502
No such data exists.

[Anonymous No.22989515]

>>22989510
>therapy,
people who tout therapy usually have poor self awareness and speak like they're trying to bring you into a cult
>It's a cope created by middle aged losers who are single or struggling to keep a girl around.
No it's literally behavior men can see and women will even admit that they do.

[Anonymous No.22989525]

>>22989510
https://financesonline.com/divorce-statistics/
> women initiate divorce 69% of the time, and this figure shoots up to 90% for college-educated women

let's blame CHAD for that

[Anonymous No.22989529]

>>22989515
>mention therapy as one contributing factor
>omg you are some cultist you are claiming therapy can solve everythiggnn!
Fucking idiot.

It is a cope. It's a narrative framing spun out by these guys who don't understand women, but got laid in their youth anyway just because it was easier for them then. They're now alone because they fucking suck with women, and they're bitter over it, so they shame both women and "betas" as a cope.

[Anonymous No.22989535]

>>22989529
>understand women
you understand fucking everything
human are simpletons, and women more so

[Anonymous No.22989540]

>>22989529
>>omg you are some cultist you are claiming therapy can solve everythiggnn!
Not my claim, I'm simply not impressed when someone brings up "therupee"

>It is a cope. It's a narrative framing spun out by these guys who don't understand women
ahahaha
> but got laid in their youth anyway just because it was easier for them then
No, this is how it works for women and in your solipsism you didn't think it could be any other way.
> They're now alone because they fucking suck with women,
It's literally the opposite of what you are saying.
It's the men who went into dating with the assumption that women want a kind, gentle, provider, got married, did all the right things and ended up getting fucked over anyway, either their wife stopped fucking them or they got outright divorced.
Men recognize that women treat the guys they fuck around a lot better than the guys that stick around. It's that simple.

>so they shame both women and "betas" as a cope.
This is such a woman argument to make. Ignorant, "they're just insecure!" "stop shaming me!"

[Anonymous No.22989545]

>about one-half to two-thirds of American men and almost half of American women have had a one-night stand.
https://cdn-adklk.nitrocdn.com/vAlLOcBPjCSUTuqFpgWoGejnngKOaInw/assets/images/optimized/rev-e381eb7/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/How-Common-Are-One-Night-Stands-.jpg

but it's not 100% women

[Anonymous No.22989549]

I can't believe I wasted my time reading all of that. For anyone curious it's just a variation of "Society is mind controlling broads to be broads."

[Anonymous No.22989552]

>>22989549
same here, shaking my head

[Anonymous No.22989556]

>>22989549
>entire argument is just a roundabout way to say "its not my fault i was just young and dumb xd women are the victim in all scenarios"

[Anonymous No.22989561]

it's just some roastie trying to cope with her past

[Anonymous No.22989563]

[Anonymous No.22989577]

I blame chad!

[Anonymous No.22989624]

>>22985873
I can see what you are saying, but the barrier to entry is different. In America for example, prostitution is illegal and costs money. While Chad isn't nor are the barriers even present for women.

[Anonymous No.22989634]

[Anonymous No.22989645]

nobody asked for tits
what's wrong with u goys

[Anonymous No.22989655]

>>22989645
What a slut. Anyway I can't believe that dude (roastie?) has been at it for almost a full day.

[Anonymous No.22989690]

>>22989655
I can't believe how conveniently she chose the posts to respond to.
Let's respond to that, as if I can spin some nonsense about it.
Oh, I can't argue with that. Let's leave it alone.
Kek

[Anonymous No.22989700]

>>22989540
>Not my claim, I'm simply not impressed when someone brings up "therupee"
It wasn't mentioned to impress you, you retarded narcissist.

>It's the men who went into dating with the assumption that women want a kind, gentle, provider, got married, did all the right things and ended up getting fucked over anyway, either their wife stopped fucking them or they got outright divorced.
This is the classic cope that these guys come up with. It can't possibly be because they hooked up with girls for the wrong reasons when they were younger. It can't possibly be that they don't know how to treat women beyond how to make their pussies tingle. It can't possibly be that they haven't matured past age 17 in 10 years. It has to be that women are evil. Also, convert to Christianity, because the church fathers were redpilled about women!

>This is such a woman argument to make.
And? Sometimes women are correct. I know that's hard for you to admit.

[Anonymous No.22989707]

>>22989556
>>22989561
>>22989577
>>22989645
>>22989655
>>22989690
I'm a guy, so you can shove this cope back up your ass where you pulled it out from.

[Anonymous No.22989764]

>>22985722
>>22989707
>24+ hours later
bro.....

[Anonymous No.22989772]

lmao this thread should be stickied