/sffg/ - Sci-fi & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22940205]

'He's a good boy' edition

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[Anonymous No.22940622]

>>22940205
Where is that image from?

[Anonymous No.22940632]

Silk for Caldé

[Anonymous No.22940729]

Is it any good bros?

[Anonymous No.22940748]

>>22940622
i(AI) genned it.
Pls no bully.
Go other thread.
true thread: >>22940196

[Anonymous No.22940844]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22940847]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22940895]

Want to ask is Leigh Bardugos books any good? Six of crows and It's sequel to be precise.

[Anonymous No.22940901]

>>22940205
My friend/roommate has been publishing sci fi books for years but I haven't been able to get through any of them, can someone read them for me and give me a quick rundown so he doesn't find out? His name is Gregor Fjellrev

[Anonymous No.22940944]

>>22940901
a cunning plan gregor i'm sure it will work

[Anonymous No.22940973]

>>22940901
The color of death is not the red of blood, the deep blue of midnight, or the black of the void. The color of death is grey. Drained of life, the twenty-first century is grey. In these thirteen stories by author, actor, and musician Gregor Fjellrev, you'll find those with the strength to fight the grey, the skill to defeat it in glorious battle, the courage to ask the questions it would dare silence, and the honor to remain eternally vigilant against it. Should so vile a scourge ever attempt to rise again, the swiftest and surest blades will cut it down, ever-eager to destroy evil.

Complete with an extensive interview with Fjellrev about the year-long process of writing the collection, Redemption Through Retribution in the Grey Century of Anti-Revolution is a call to arms, a shout in the dark to find the other beacons of defiance, that they may stand together at last. Choose defiance.

[Anonymous No.22940992]

>>22940205
>>22940622
>>22940632
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>>22940748
>>22940844
>>22940847
Friendly reminder that Bakker is KING
>Then the madness fell away. Once again it was the pure thunder of the charge. The strange camaraderie of men bent to a single, fatal purpose. Hummocks, scrub, and the bones of the Vulgar Holy War’s dead rushed beneath. The wind bled through chain links, tousled Thunyeri braids and Tydonni crests. Bright banners slapped against the sky. The heathen, wicked and foul, drew closer, ever closer. One last storm of arrows, these ones almost horizontal to the ground, punching against shield and armour. Some were struck from their saddles. Tongue tips were bitten off in the concussion of the fall. The unhorsed arched across the turf, screamed and swatted at the sky. Wounded mounts danced in frothing circles nearby. The rest thundered on, over grasses, through patches of blooming milkwort waving in the wind. They couched their lances, twenty thousand men draped in great mail hauberks over thick felt, with coifs across their faces and helms that swept down to their cheeks, riding chargers caparisoned in mail or iron plates. The fear dissolved into drunken speed, into the momentum, became so mingled with exhilaration as to be indistinguishable from it. They were addicted to the charge, the Men of the Tusk. Everything focused into the glittering tip of a lance. The target nearer, nearer … The rumble of hooves and drums drowned their kinsmen’s song. They crashed through a thin screen of sumac … Saw eyes whiten in sudden terror. Then impact. The jarring splinter of wood as lances speared through shield, through armour. Suddenly the ground became still and solid beneath them, and the air rang with wails and shouts. Hands drew sword and axe. Everywhere figures grappled and hacked. Horses reared. Blades pitched blood into the sky. And the Kianene fell, undone by their ferocity, crumpling beneath northern hands, dying beneath pale faces and merciless blue eyes. The heathen recoiled from the slaughter—and fled.
KINO

[Anonymous No.22941004]

What's with every foe or enemy of Conan being ripped/well built? Even the sorcerers, like Thoth-Amon or Xaltotun are more muscular than average dudes even in the setting, not to mention the giant black men Conan often fights.

[Anonymous No.22941011]

>>22941004
Howard was gay

[Anonymous No.22941083]

>>22941004
It's was written for pulp, of course the bad guys are going to be buff.

[Anonymous No.22941102]

Just finished Dune, first finish of 2024 but started in mid december. I really enjoyed the different perspectives because it gives me a more clear view of what each character looks like and the world around them. Long book, and im surprised by how baron was defeated so easily, one sentence and poof. Very interested in alias future, and happy to see irulan now come into play. Want to read a short book next, looking into solaris, annihilation, rendevous with rama and farenheit 451 before i jump into messiah but im aware messiah has a time jump so i may actually hold off. I stopped at nemesis games for the expanse for a break due to the time jump as well. 9/10 for dune, could not stop reading it.

[Anonymous No.22941106]

>>22940847
These look like utter cringe

[Anonymous No.22941108]

>>22940729
Not really. Mogged by Dunsany and Phantastes.

[Anonymous No.22941148]

I've heard that Asimovs books were about the exploration of his three laws and how they're actually flawed and the in depth explanation of that, but specifically what books should I get that explore that?

[Anonymous No.22941155]

>>22941148
The robot series

[Anonymous No.22941284]

>>22941102
>Very interested in alias future

>>22941148
>I've heard that Asimovs books were about the exploration of his three laws and how they're actually flawed
You've heard regurgitated bullshit.

What would later become the three laws of robotics were created to convince an audience inundated with the idea of killer robots that a robot could be something helpful and desirable. SOME of his robot stories are about the LIMITATIONS of applying these principles. "Law" is misleading. He inadvertently ends up advocating for a Wittgenstein-ish 'context matters' approach to ethics, but Asimov's writing is not intentionally ethical in nature. When a robot breaks, Asimov's characters treat it like an appliance. His robots aren't people, they're toasters that can talk.

To answer your question: I, Robot

[Anonymous No.22941451]

We're not getting a nogod series are we, bakker bros????

[Anonymous No.22941454]

>>22941451
Its coming. Get ready.

[Anonymous No.22941470]

>>22941454
Haven't read anything that good since. I need good fantasy...bros...

[Anonymous No.22941493]

Are there any first contact stories with a male lead and a romance with an ayy lmao?

[Anonymous No.22941500]

>>22941493
My diary desu

City at World's End kind of fits this description, although it's mostly just sexual tension

[Anonymous No.22941502]

>>22941500
Fuck sexual tension, that's bullshit

[Anonymous No.22941504]

>>22941470
Recomend the Drenai Saga series of books by David Gemmel. I would start with "Legend" and then by publishing order (this series books are not in chronological order). Alternative is picking up "Waylander" after "Legend".

[Anonymous No.22941515]

would anyone recommend pale lights? i can't for the life of my get through the first few chapters. it just throws so much shit at you, and all of it with stupid sounding names for already familiar things

[Anonymous No.22941519]

>>22941515
>would anyone recommend a web novel

[Anonymous No.22941535]

>What's the last book you read?
>What book are you currently reading?
>What book do you plan to read next?

[Anonymous No.22941588]

[Anonymous No.22941589]

>>22940992
>words words words
You think I'm gonna read all that shit?

[Anonymous No.22941596]

>>22941589
>>>/tv/

[Anonymous No.22941642]

>>22941588
>Last
Dropped Black Sun Rising by C. S. Friedman. It turned out to be a quest narrative and I generally don't enjoy reading those. Other than that it was a good read, I'll probably finish it sometime soon, I was almost done with it.
>Current
Heroes Die by Matthew Stover. Liking it a lot. It's got that same gritty style and ultraviolence that I got from his Star Wars books, but it's not executed quite as well. Didn't expect it to be a cross between futuristic cyberpunk dystopia and portal fantasy.
>Next
Empire of Silence by Christopher Rocchio. This book is having supply issues so I'm going to read the first one to see if I'm interested in buying a physical set.

[Anonymous No.22941648]

>>22940729
>>22940844
>>22940847
>>22940992 samefag
>>22941102
>>22941148
>>22941451 samefag
>>22941454 samefag
>>22941470 samefag
>>22941588
>>22941596
Great post anon, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.22941664]

>>22940895
>>22941284
>>22941493
>>22941500
>>22941504
>>22941648
See >>22941648

[Anonymous No.22941697]

this was very fun. other recommendations in the same vein? so far i know these:

Lest darkness fall
a historian goes back in time to 6th century italy

The high crusade
an alien ship lands in a field next to a 14th century lord's manor

Ranks of bronze
a roman legion is enslaved by a galactic corporation

[Anonymous No.22941721]

>>22941535
>last
I finished Martial World which probably bears repeat mention. The ending was unfulfilling because there was an open-ended plot thread for no reason, and evidently the 'sequel' isn't a direct sequel, as the MC is new and MW's MC isn't mentioned much. Meh.
I reread parts 2 and 3 of Dungeon Crawler Carl 6, and got caught up to the 25 new chapters of book 7.
>current
Blade of Rebels, the sequel to Blade of Ghosts. It's not as gripping as book 1 and treads down some typical thematic pathways; At least the chapters are short and it is an easy read. With the twists presented in chapter 1 I can only hope that book 2 does anything interesting with the route it is headed toward.
Cugel's Saga. He just left Kaspara Vitatus after escaping the local authorities. Big surprise there. Why did Vance decide to write two big stories about Cugel?
>next
I'm at a loss for another loooong cultivation saga to read. I have World of Cultivation and Against the Gods on my ereader but I've gotten a few chapters into each and didn't proceed. Maybe I'll try again with AtG.

[Anonymous No.22941746]

>>22940992
Holy based

[Anonymous No.22941767]

>>22941721
World of Cultivation is disappointing. It starts out well but quickly turns into garbage.

[Anonymous No.22941776]

>>22941102
I also finished Dune beginning of year. Currently on 2nd book of Witcher series.

Fahrenheit 451 was my first book last year in August or September that started my reading frenzy. It's an easy read, very well done and a genuinely vivid vision of the future.

I'd say definitely read it, it *almost* got preachy at one point but overall it was very well done.

Rama and Solaris are on my list but far down.

[Anonymous No.22941804]

>>22940992
>Friendly reminder that Bakker is KING
Correct post
>Vengeance roamed the halls of the compound—like a God.
>And he sang his song with a beast’s blind fury, parting wall from foundation, blowing ceiling into sky, as though the works of man were things of sand.
>And when he found them, cowering beneath their Analogies, he sheared through their Wards like a rapist through a cotton shift. He beat them with hammering lights, held their shrieking bodies as though they were curious things, the idiot thrashing of an insect between thumb and forefinger …
>Death came swirling down.
>He felt them scramble through the corridors, desperate to organize some kind of concerted defence. He knew that the sound of agony and blasted stone reminded them of their deeds. Their horror would be the horror of the guilty. Glittering death had come to redress their trespasses.
>Suspended over the carpeted floors, encompassed by hissing Wards, he blasted his own ruined halls. He encountered a cohort of Javreh. Their frantic bolts were winked into ash by the play of lights before him. Then they were screaming, clawing at eyes that had become burning coals. He strode past them, leaving only smeared meat and charred bone. He encountered a dip in the fabric of the onta, and he knew that more awaited his approach armed with the Tears of God.
>He brought the building down upon them.
>And he laughed more mad words, drunk with destruction. Fiery lights shivered across his defences and he turned, seething with dark crackling humour, and spoke to the two Scarlet Magi who assailed him, uttered intimate truths, fatal Abstractions, and the world about them was wracked to the pith.
>He clawed away their flimsy Anagogic defences, raised them from the ruin like shrieking dolls, and dashed them against bone-breaking stone.
>Seswatha was free, and he walked the ways of the present bearing tokens of ancient doom.
>He would show them the Gnosis.

[Anonymous No.22941895]

>>22940205
Is there a /sffg/ Discord for writers? I want to talk to and write with authors who actually have a semblance of intellect and style.

[Anonymous No.22941901]

>>22941895
>I want to talk with authors who actually have a semblance of intellect and style.
They are all dead white men.

[Anonymous No.22941908]

>>22941895
There are various /lit/ discords, but good luck finding that. You'll have to go somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.22941913]

Sanderson > Bakker

[Anonymous No.22941915]

>>22941895
Absolute majority of modern authors are liberal progressive cucks. Not sure why you'd want to have a conversation with people like that.

[Anonymous No.22941957]

>>22941915
What percent do you think the anons of this thread are, or for the site as a whole, both including and excluding /pol/?

[Anonymous No.22941972]

>>22941895
>authors
>>>/lit/wg/

[Anonymous No.22941999]

>>22941957
I think the silent majority are /pol/ (at least 80%) however the majority of posts/threads are made by loud minority of trannies and liberals.

[Anonymous No.22942118]

>>22941895
https://discord.com/invite/4nbeFSVw

[Anonymous No.22942142]

>>22941011
Projecting.

[Anonymous No.22942172]

>>22940729
yes. it is something else, not just in the language it uses and the prose style, but in its message, in the weight of the characters and what's going on. at times i felt it went on for a bit too long but i defintely recommend it. the story as a whole is very satisfiying, the ending ties everything together in a very nice and unexpected way

[Anonymous No.22942192]

>>22941999
That would mean though that the silent majority only wants to see those posts/threads rather than making their own. Weird if true (it isn't).

[Anonymous No.22942261]

>>22942192
Genuine people post when they have something to say or ask, they lurk most of the time (they open the thread, see tranny posting and they close the thread). Trannys and libs just make nonsensical posts all the time, just like mentally disabled make constant retarded noises irl.

[Anonymous No.22942267]

>>22942261
Our most prominent and consistent shitposter is just a mid-functioning autist who lacks any and all shame and self-awareness.
>trannys and libs
Sounds like newfag shit and people avoid newfags like you.

[Anonymous No.22942290]

>>22942267
>>trannys and libs
Sounds like trannys and libs and people avoid trannys and libs (people like you).

[Anonymous No.22942295]

Leviathan Wakes, yes or no?

[Anonymous No.22942307]

Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo!
Ring a dong! hop along! Fal lal the willow!
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!

[Anonymous No.22942312]

>>22942295
Read it but beware, you will not have any positive feeling towards this series anymore.

[Anonymous No.22942318]

>>22942261
trannies AND chuds make nonsensical posts, i dare you to look at bakkerfag posts and telling me he is mentally stable

[Anonymous No.22942327]

>>22942318
He's been here two whole weeks. He doesn't know who that is.

[Anonymous No.22942346]

>>22942295
Yes. The books do some things better and the TV series does other things better.
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Expanse+corey&search_tripcode=Sffg&search_ord=old

[Anonymous No.22942363]

>>22942295
the brown milf is hot

[Anonymous No.22942369]

>>22942318
Bakkerchads dominate the crowd
Among the trannys standing proud
Bakkerchads dominate them all
Those who dare to resist will fall.

Bakker is the King of /sffg/. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.22942388]

Sneedchads dominate the Farm
Among the bakkerfags standing proud
Sneedchads Feed them all
Those who dare to resist will fall.
Sneed is the King of /sffg/. Simple as.

[Anonymous No.22942401]

>>22942388
Sneed fuck chuck cope suck seethe sneed poetry meme fuck chuck suck sneed

[Anonymous No.22942491]

I'm trying to schizomaxx the setting of my urban fantasy book, anyone have any good resources? Or even just their own insane theories they have/heard? I don't even know where to begin looking for stuff about hyperborea and antediluvian ice walls. But I want to use em.

[Anonymous No.22942507]

>>22942491
Have you thought of actually developing your characters and story?

[Anonymous No.22942510]

>>22942491
literally in all genuinity lurk /x/

[Anonymous No.22942512]

>>22942507
Well yeah I've already got that, IDIOT

[Anonymous No.22942518]

>re-reading a part of Dark Age by Pierce Brown
>fucking up my book because I keep crying

[Anonymous No.22942519]

what's some good pulpy sword & sorcery to read if I need inspiration for an old-school d&d campaign. i've already read howard, c.a.s., lieber, lovecraft and vance.

[Anonymous No.22942529]

>>22942519
read KANE

[Anonymous No.22942534]

>>22942519
Damn near everything from DMR Books.

[Anonymous No.22942558]

>>22942295
this will be the most important recommendation you receive this year
DO NOT READ the expanse

[Anonymous No.22942567]

Thoughts on Amber? Been enjoying it but its so light on the world building. Great vibes and Corwin is a cheeky fella

[Anonymous No.22942575]

>>22942567
this will be the most important recommendation you receive this year
STOP reading amber after book 1, book 2 at most
i know it's tempting to go on. but nothing good will come of it. i promise. however disappointing you think it might be, it'll be more disappointing.
just STOP

[Anonymous No.22942580]

>>22942510
They don't seem like they're the fun kind of schizophrenic anymore. Just the wojack spamming kind.

[Anonymous No.22942593]

>>22942580
So like every other board?

[Anonymous No.22942599]

>>22942593
Did I imply otherwise?

[Anonymous No.22942608]

>>22942599
You did

[Anonymous No.22942614]

>>22942608
Well then, my bad.

[Anonymous No.22942621]

>>22942580
>>22942593
>>22942599
>>22942608
>>22942614
and the award for biggest pair of queers currently on 4chan goes to these two

[Anonymous No.22942628]

>>22942621
Thank you, thank you. I am honored to accept this award and I'd personally like to thank the academy.

[Anonymous No.22942668]

>>22942575
No way man I'm on 3 I have to see it through.

It can't be that bad. Right? Right??

[Anonymous No.22942731]

>>22942519
David Gemmel novels. Either Drenai saga books or Rigante. Though Knight's of Dark Renoun and Morningstar are also good. Have not read his Troy series, so can't say anything about that.

[Anonymous No.22942762]

>>22942731
And yes I like his books, they are full on heroic fantasy of old. Simple and relatable. Without modern politicall messaging and simmilair crap. And actually short enough to read in a day or two, at max, a week for 1 book (if you are slower reader, or just feeling lazy).

[Anonymous No.22942784]

>>22942295
Series miller mogs the fuck out of book miller

[Anonymous No.22942788]

>>22942731
>>22942762
Jerusalem Man trilogy.

[Anonymous No.22942836]

>>22940844

>Reverend Insanity = Literally about an a-moral bugman killing/consooming/cultivating
>Lord of The Mysteries = Hard to into asian steampunk with potion based class acquisition, achievement and crafting progression with un-lockable magical items and sekret tarot organizations because it wasn't already confusing enough.
>Neuromancer = Decent cyberspunk i'm putting together a team novel
>Hyperion = Interplanetary high tech trooning
>The Prince of Nothing = Bakker is for fags and fags are for Bakker. Simple as.
>The Wandering Inn = Stay at home moms power fantasy with a main character whos most prominent power is complaining while being a pacifist.
>Between Two Fires = Heaven Vs hell but in medieval FRANCE!
>Mother of Learning = Time loop and like all of the subgenre goes literally nowhere over and over again, has a decent magic system that some find mediocre and a main characters sister that is annoying as fuck.
>Cradle = Every second novel is a dud in the series with a birdbath of a main character. Only decent thing is the fights that get stale real quick because it does not take long to realize they are all ill conceived magical games of uno.
>I Shall Seal the Heavens = Proto xianxia at its worst, MC gets kidnapped into strong but lowly down on its luck sect. Queue haughty young masters, saving face and swilling ginseng infused tiger penis soup by the gallon.
>A Song of Ice and Fire = Fantastical medieval degeneracy where the characters who should live die and the characters who should die live. Also author is too busy getting fat and old to finish the series.
>The Poppy War = Fem-C gets accepted to 20th century china-esque martial academy and gets looked down upon while struggling to overcome amidst pseudo researched equally vintage china political bullshit.

[Anonymous No.22942848]

>>22940847
>Azarinth Healer = Starts good but fizzles hard midway. Author also makes the main character a low key lesbian because they clearly have no idea what to do with their love life.
>Primal Hunter = MC+background is so impossibly nonsensical that he's not even cannon in his own setting.
>He Who Fights with Monsters = every character that isnt the MC is just there to be amazed at how smart Jason is while he tells them shit they already know before reminding them (incorrectly i might add) that 'Oh you have no idea".
>Dungeon Crawler Carl = The MC's sidekick (A cat named 'Princess Donut') is so much smarter than Carl (the MC) that every scene the two are in is eye-gougingly painful. This would not be so much of a problem if such scenes did not constitute the majority of the series.
>System Universe = After the initial premise is established it turns into how to pander to followers at a snails pace AKA; 'Filler McFiller Face - The Excessively Extended Sleep Inducing Saga'.
>Dissonance = MC gets god fucked more then once as he goes about becoming a man/bear/goat/pig/axolotl hybrid who also has many super sekret identities.
>Defiance of the Fall = Brain dead MC with very-much-just-barely opposed kingdom building with a wafer thin cultivation system
>Iron Prince = edgy school setting with even edgier MC who has lightning powers and no discernible challenges what so ever.

[Anonymous No.22942850]

>>22942788
You mean John Shannon trilogy? If yes then, thanx for the recomendation, still have to read them. Am currently reading the first book of Stones of Power. Will read John Shannon after I read the Second one.

[Anonymous No.22942871]

>>22942850
The series reads as if Gemmell read The Dark Tower and decided to write his own version in his writing style.

[Anonymous No.22942897]

>>22942871
Might be so, I still have to read it, as I had already stated. But I definetly prefer Gemmel over King. Gemmel, from what I can guess by reading his books, was quite based, King not so much. In addition I prefer Gemmells characters over King's.

[Anonymous No.22942913]

>>22941697
Napoleons of Eridanus
John Birmingham, Axis of Time

[Anonymous No.22942919]

>>22942897
You should enjoy Jerusalem Man then.

[Anonymous No.22942940]

>>22942919
Great to hear it. And again, thank you for the recomendation.

[Anonymous No.22943028]

>>22941804
So. Fucking. Kino.

Bakker truly is King.

[Anonymous No.22943077]

I still haven't read the last book of Cradle, got too into reading chinese stuff

[Anonymous No.22943094]

>>22943077
Lindon is a chud and a simp.

[Anonymous No.22943107]

>>22943077
You're honestly not missing much.

[Anonymous No.22943108]

>>22942518
>oops dripped precum on my book
>better post it on the internet for clout

[Anonymous No.22943128]

I wasted an hour of my life reading picrel out of curiosity for what a successful fantasy novel looks like in today's market. Summarized:
>bland DND campaign of a world and story
>we're getting the band back together
>muh heckin doggo is so gods damn cute when he licks his balls
>I taught my daughter how to wield a sword. stick em with the pointy end and all that. Just so

[Anonymous No.22943147]

>>22943128
author looks about like you'd expect
I can't Imagine putting forth the effort to write a novel and stooping to the level of bald-faced pop culture references instead of subtle allegory. According to another review he actually wrote The Cake is a Lie coming from the mouth of one of his characters. It felt like I was reading Ready Player One again. Is this what sells to aging millennials? Reddit laps this shit up; it's got 50,000 glowing reviews on goodreads.

[Anonymous No.22943156]

>>22943128
>today's market
>7 years ago
A lot has changed since then. It's not today's market at all.

[Anonymous No.22943164]

>>22943147
No, it has 49k ratings and 7k reviews. Ratings aren't reviews.

[Anonymous No.22943167]

>>22943156
It's the newest book I've read in some time. Considering my own zoomers don't read, I can't imagine it's changed much.

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22943173]

>>22940205
Crown of Shadows, The Coldfire Trilogy #3 - C. S. Friedman (1995)

Around a year has passed since the events of the previous book because returning from the continent that no one returns from was much more difficult than getting there. The size of the planet is unclear, but six months to get there and ten to get back must involve considerable distances. It's good thing their travel time is skipped over between books because otherwise the majority of the time from the beginning of the first book to the end of the third book would be them at sea.

The enemy this time is what they consider to be an extremely powerful demon that they have no idea how they're going to beat. He's the guy behind the big bad of the second book who was the boss of the antagonists of the first book. Is there someone above this demon? It's as likely as you'd think. There's also a literally Unnamed manifestation of the all evil ever committed by humanity, which normally would seem like it'd be a big deal, but it never really is. Anti-climatic reveals and downplaying that which seems to be powerful happens a lot in this series. I thought it was just how it was written, but maybe it's meant to be subverting expectations. If that was the intent, then well, I don't know that it's advisable to do it continuously for all three books.

For the third time it's all about journeying. This time though the first half is a spiritual journey and the second half is a physical journey for spiritual reasons. That's not all though since there are several POVs this time. There's Damien and Tarrant who want to destroy what they see as the ultimate evil, the demon. Narilka and Andrys want to destroy the ultimate evil, Tarrant. Patriarch, who forever remains unnamed, wants to destroy the ultimate evil, the fae. There are a few other one-off POVs as well.

The primary theme is that through penance one can be absolved, if not redeemed. It leans heavily into the question of whether a few great deeds can mitigate a lifetime of evil. I'm not really much for heroic self-sacrifice as I think living is preferable, but as with some other ideals, I believe its arguments are presented here well enough. I'm skeptical of whether the character development was credible enough for what happens, but I'll allow it. I'm conflicted about the late story reveals and the epilogue, which were mildly to the detriment of my enjoyment.

I don't know what Friedman was going for with this series overall. I do know that I enjoyed most of it aside from the plot though. This is the end of the trilogy, but not the end of the works in this setting. There's still a work of short fiction and a novel left. The novel was published 28 years after this one, so I'm interested to see how much has changed in how Friedman writes in this setting.

Rating: 3.5/5 (4)

Previous books in the series
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=Coldfire&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

[Anonymous No.22943179]

>>22943164
49k readers who took the time to leave a rating on goodreads. My point is, it's a successful book.

[Anonymous No.22943184]

>>22943167
It has though. Women authors completely dominate now in everything and successful books by a male author have become a rarity, especially if it's a debut. Romantasy dominates.

[Anonymous No.22943189]

>>22943173
see >>22941648

[Anonymous No.22943213]

>>22943128
It gets worse but I find it hard to fault the author too much since I'm pretty sure it was his debut novel and he hadn't written anything before it. You can tell that he was thinking of things he thought were cool and putting them straight down onto the page regardless of whether it worked or not and without refining the ideas too much.
It was also full of hamfisted wokeness

[Alex Beyman No.22943216]

After a little over a year, I finally finished Terminal Sunset, the story some of you recently read a WIP of. Dying Earth genre, sun has gone dark, mass haunting of entire planet soon follows. Society utterly transforms, adapting to a world of darkness in which only constant artificial illumination protects humanity from light-fearing phantoms resembling recently disappeared persons.

Inspirations:
-Pulse/Kairo
-Hereditary
-Dark City
-Lights Out
-Death Stranding
-Ghostbusters
-The Night Lands (Last Redoubt)
-Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within
-Nightslink
-Alan Wake
-Chasing Static
-Into the Gloom
-In This Twilight, NIN
-God Given, NIN
-Zero Sum, NIN
-Came Back Haunted, NIN

Free sample:
https://write.as/d4mhyj99sgxrg.md

Full novella:
https://alexbeyman.substack.com/p/terminal-sunset

Given the platform I mainly expect insults, at least make them creative/funny.

[Anonymous No.22943227]

>>22943184
It's because tradpub is dominated by White liberal women. They don't want to publish books by Men for Men unless it has their feminist approval.

[Anonymous No.22943234]

>>22943213
I fault the author less than the audience. He saw the previous success of this sort of thing and got his bag. Making the wizard gay was a smart move, it's easy to imagine a foppish dandy in a fancy robe.

[Anonymous No.22943304]

>>22943234
>Making the wizard gay was a smart move, it's easy to imagine a foppish dandy in a fancy robe.
this is why dumbledore being gay was never a problem even for chuds, it's like "well of course he was"

[Anonymous No.22943321]

I need something trashy to read

[Anonymous No.22943368]

>>22943321
Read your mom's autobiography then.

[Anonymous No.22943399]

>>22942295
It reads like an adapted script and liberally uses cliffhangers in lieu of writing anything actually interesting

[Anonymous No.22943413]

>>22943213
Have the book, still have to read it, hope it at least pases as a comedic shlop (fun or semi enjoyable for at least one read). Though now I doubt that.

[Anonymous No.22943437]

>>22943216
"Everybody Comes Back" was fucking embarrassingly bad. I shan't be reading anything you've written ever again.

[Anonymous No.22943452]

>>22941648

[Anonymous No.22943485]

>>22943452

[Anonymous No.22943531]

>>22943216
>Mom continued to prattle on about things she missed, the way boomers do. The way I guess everybody starts doing the microsecond after they turn thirty. In her case, longing for a world which never existed outside of Norman Rockwell paintings.

[Anonymous No.22943597]

>>22942118
>>22941972
Thank you.

>>22941901
>>22941915
While I recognize that morbid fact, I'm sure there are others out there who write and think closer to my opinion than those of the mainstream. I'm simply looking for my people.

[Anonymous No.22943601]

>>22943531
I don't think the drink wants to be drank, it's telling him to shut up

Is he trying to murder the drink?

[Anonymous No.22943629]

Thoughts on the Bartimaeus series?

[Alex Beyman No.22943639]

>>22943437

I'll bet I can guess your beliefs

[Alex Beyman No.22943646]

>>22943531

I said make it creative/funny

>>22943437

I'll bet I know what your beliefs are, and that you'll now lie about it

[Anonymous No.22943690]

>>22943216
>Dying Earth genre, sun has gone dark
I read a story like that once. The last survivors were living deep underground because the surface got so cold the atmosphere was freezing. They regretted their actions that led to this while waiting for resources to run out. Pretty dark.

[Alex Beyman No.22943698]

>>22943690

Arx Fatalis had a very similar premise iirc, had that shit on OG Xbox, was kino

[Anonymous No.22943753]

>>22943690
>oh no it's too dark
>ohh nooo I haven't seen the sun in days
buncha faggots, fungus is the best crop, no need to worry about sunlamps and you can just let the sky go dark permanently day I turned into a cave dweller best day of my life

[Anonymous No.22943760]

>>22943753

This is how I play Rimworld. Albino neckbeard mole man colony in arctic tundra

[Anonymous No.22943767]

>female author
>father/daughter incest
happens more than you'd think

[Anonymous No.22943814]

>>22943753
The problem isn't the dark but the cold that freezes all surface water and then the atmosphere. But the lack of photosynthesis also fucks you. Can't breathe in your cave with no plants or tech to deal with the CO2. Fungi need to eat other organisms just like us.

[Anonymous No.22943828]

>>22940205
So the Dunyain is Bakkers way of telling us that race is real and breeding the best DNA can eventually create the Ubermensch, right? And yet /ssfg/ still call him a lefty?

[Anonymous No.22943898]

>>22943828
>Ubermensch
That's Conphas.

[Anonymous No.22943945]

>>22943128
I thought it was fine. Yeah it's a DnD campaign but it was fun enough. I liked that the main character wasn't a 18-25 year old for once.

I don't remember any dog in the story, and Rose (the daughter) is hardly even a character in the book.

Stay far away from the sequel though. That book is hot trash. One of the only times I've seen a sequel have a worse goodreads score than the first book

[Anonymous No.22944009]

>>22942518
Virginia got done dirty by PB. Just took L after L with no recompense.

[Anonymous No.22944042]

grim

[Anonymous No.22944061]

>>22943945
I can only roll my eyes at meme dialogue so many times before I close the book.

[Anonymous No.22944125]

>>22943767
>father/daughter incest
Cringe
>Mother/daughter incest
Real shit

[Anonymous No.22944141]

>>22944042

[Anonymous No.22944156]

>>22944141
evil santa himself looked far worse when he was young

[Anonymous No.22944163]

I’m about 75% through the fellowship of the ring

[Anonymous No.22944220]

You need to read a thousand pages for every page you write. Otherwise your work is not reading.

[Anonymous No.22944224]

>you will never be autistic enough to shave your leg, cover it in tattoos, and show it off to a crowded bookstore while you force an author to sign it
feels good man

[Anonymous No.22944236]

"Lemons? Did you find some lemons?" She had promised Sweetrobin lemon cake, and for lemon cake you needed lemons.

[Anonymous No.22944298]

>>22944156
that's just jon snow

[Anonymous No.22944334]

>>22944042
>hes going to die of a heart attack before cosmere or stormlight are finished.
Thank fug i dropped both series several books ago

[Anonymous No.22944500]

>reading Raymond E Feist
>Riftwar in particular
>it's fairly generic fantasy
>still loving it

[Anonymous No.22944504]

>>22944334
>>22944042
i read through the Cosmere stuff last year, minus the graphic novels. i can't say i regretted reading them, but they were mid

[Anonymous No.22944532]

I'm reading the Lillith's Brood trilogy by Octavia Butler, it's interesting to read sci fi from the perspective of a female pervert instead of a male one.

[Anonymous No.22944543]

>>22944532
are you positive that's what you're reading

[Anonymous No.22944558]

>>22944532
>read Octavia Butler's patternist trilogy/whatever
>literal genderfluid (physically and spiritually) african who lives for thousands of years gets technically groomed by an even older body-hopping african who specifically begins a long eugenics plan, inhabiting his own descendants and having them fuck, simply to give himself the perfect body.

I don't like Afrofuturism, because its premise reminds me of 'Agarthan Portal Opens EVROPA VGH" literature but for black people, but man was the first book wild.

[Anonymous No.22944597]

>>22941721
i dropped Martial World at 192, it was just bland. i remember thinking i would rather just reread Cradle
>>22943077
what chinese stuff was good? i've only read RI and LotM. i tried MGA and the monkey steals peaches book but they didnt hold my interest

i've been reading a lot of Korean webnovels lately, i am a sucker for the "get transported into a book/game and exploit meta knowledge" trope
The Novel's Extra was my favorite
Author's POV was a Novel's Extra subpar copy
Trash of the Count's Family and Jackal Among Snakes are entertaining
Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint is on the reading list

[Anonymous No.22944659]

Haven't been here for a while
is this general still filled with snobs sucking bakker's cock?

[Anonymous No.22944718]

>>22944659
>plural

[Anonymous No.22944807]

>>22943646
go ahead, what are my beliefs?

[Anonymous No.22944812]

>>22943814
>he's never heard of chemosynthesis or Movile Cave

[Anonymous No.22944825]

>>22944543
To be fair OctaviAAAAA is feminine

[Anonymous No.22944830]

>>22944825
anon that is a woman

[Anonymous No.22944950]

whats your favorite erotic SFF?
i like Herald of Shalia by Tamryn Tamer

[Anonymous No.22944966]

Currently reading picrel

[Anonymous No.22944984]

You know LitRPGs that have some guy get isekai'd and then he just steamrolls because he is a gamer? What if you had that sort of premise where they expect a typical overpowered guy, but they end up getting a game journalist instead? Then it transitions into the whole world trying its best to make him as strong as possible, but the journo still manages to fail and fumble as they do.

[Anonymous No.22945034]

>>22944984
Why would anyone want to self insert into anything like that?

[Anonymous No.22945047]

what's some comfy sci-fi now that i've read all of PKDs shorts?

[Anonymous No.22945067]

>>22945047
The dying earth Jack Vance

[Anonymous No.22945072]

>>22945034
It would be more for comedic purposes than self insertion.

[Anonymous No.22945100]

>>22941648
truth shines

[Anonymous No.22945105]

>>22942567
i've been reading it after getting the whole series as a gift and it's like reading a summary of a real book. pretty dreadful and not sure why it's on a lot of people's must read lists

[Anonymous No.22945153]

>>22943321
Just go to RR and click a random ad of theirs lol

Also tell us how it went.

[Anonymous No.22945416]

So I bought the Discworld humble bundle and am reading Mort for the first time. I'm really enjoying it a lot. This is a good reading guide though right?

[Anonymous No.22945811]

>>22944597
>i remember thinking i would rather just reread Cradle
lol considering the series is bland after the first half
at least longform xianxia stories don't have subserviant bitches for MCs like Lindon

[Anonymous No.22945853]

I am once again reading the Hobbit
I was filtered halfway through Fellowship and haven’t attempted it again in 10 years

I love how mythological the Hobbit feels. It really feels like Tolkien happened upon an actual story from ancient history

[Anonymous No.22945879]

anyone got good Bakker memes? i just finished WLW and picrel cracks me the fuck up

[Anonymous No.22945881]

>>22945416
yeah, but it doesn't really matter what order you read them. each novel is self contained with hints of other books happening,except maybe a series like watch you might need to read the first one to understand somewhat is going on.

[Anonymous No.22946025]

Bakkerbros what music do you listen to when reading the books?

[Anonymous No.22946028]

>>22945853
fellowship is only boring before they get to moria desu

[Anonymous No.22946039]

>>22946025
I don't listen to music

[Anonymous No.22946048]

>>22946025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utTOUrogjCs

[Anonymous No.22946055]

>>22945811
true, i find all the casual racism and sexism in chinese novels refreshing

[Anonymous No.22946062]

>>22946025
Cryo Chamber label
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twJzRWK6GKI

[Anonymous No.22946403]

>>22946028
and it's boring half way through the two towers.

[Anonymous No.22946405]

>>22940205
I came to the realization that I don't really understand fantasy.
Can the fantastical elements tie to the central question or theme as anything other than allegory? If that is the case, how do you use them to get a message that isn't banal? And if it isn't, are those elements just a form of window dressing for a mundane story?

[Anonymous No.22946429]

>>22946405
hehe fireball go brrr

[Anonymous No.22946434]

>>22946405
I hate this baby cartoon style

[Anonymous No.22946442]

>>22946405
Fantasy a normal story set in fantastical setting.

[Anonymous No.22946447]

>>22946434
Well I hate you

[Anonymous No.22946468]

>>22946442
what would reverend insanity minus the fantastical elements be like?

[Anonymous No.22946495]

>>22946429
>>22946442
ok, but doesn't that fit in with the window dressing part?

[Anonymous No.22946503]

>>22946405
Obviously you just don't enjoy the kind of imagination that fantasy entails. Not everything is either thematic message or structural plot.

There's an inherent imaginative potency to ideas of warlocks and gnomes and misty forest and ancient ruins or whatever. The idea of lost civilisations millennia-old, of horrors lurking in caves and sewers, of secret societies meeting at torchlight - these are prima facie cool ideas, and if you call them allegory then you're detracting from the specificity of their power as imagery.

You can call that window dressing if you want, but that label only works if you start from the assumption that these fantastical details are unimportant and secondary.

If you as a kid never ideally daydreamed about how it would feel like to live in a world that based on blood-oaths and ancient curses instead of contemporary socioeconomic relations, a world that surrounds you with endless desolate nature instead of mapped and knowable urban sprawls, then I don't know what to tell.

Fantasy is fun because you get to enjoy these images for the sake of their unique, evocative, ineffable power, not for their efficiency at communicating some interpretable message that reduces down to mundane, psychological, abstractly 'universal' content (though I don't think you can do that even with good literature).

[Anonymous No.22946507]

>>22946503
many typos here, apologies...

[Anonymous No.22946516]

fantasy is fun

[Anonymous No.22946601]

>>22945416
It's a fair guide on the main themes, but I wouldn't use it as a reading guide. Personally I'd say if you got on with Mort just take it publication order from there, skipping non mainline stuff.
The writing and the world evolves over time, and following a particular theme reading order then going back to start another won't do it full justice. Like >>22945881 said, the books are stand alone stories anyway, so those groupings are really just useful for context.

[Anonymous No.22946683]

>>22942567
i've only read book 1, it was meh. the only two things that stood out to me was the cool-ass blue cover and the car ride to Amber (i really like the idea of how they subtly transform the world around them until it matches up with Amber)

[Anonymous No.22946686]

>>22945879
here's another i got that i like

[Anonymous No.22946742]

Reading the Stormlight books and if I have to suffer through one more fucking Shallan "joke" that Sanderson expects the audience to think is witty I'm going to jump off a bridge, please tell me she gets better

[Anonymous No.22946791]

>>22946742
>Reading the Stormlight books
found your first mistake

[Anonymous No.22946836]

>>22946742
No. Shallan was a fucking mistake. Same as Wit. Sanderson is physically incapable of writing humor, which is impressive, considering he says Pratchett is his favorite author

[Anonymous No.22946846]

I want to read most literary book about dragons, what do you have for me?

[Anonymous No.22946856]

>>22946846
100% science-based dragons I hope

[Anonymous No.22946864]

>>22946846
>I want to read most literary book about dragons, what do you have for me?
Endangered

[Anonymous No.22946928]

>>22946468
Something like autobiography of Stalin maybe...

[Anonymous No.22947372]

>>22946742
Wait until she turns into a full blown schizo with multiple hair colours and personalities

[Anonymous No.22947621]

Just got to the Fall of Coltaine in DG. The Chain of Dogs arc might be my favourite arc in any fantasy series, ever. I can't believe how kino DG is and it's only the second book of Malazan.

[Anonymous No.22947766]

>>22946686
>>22945879

[Anonymous No.22947770]

>>22947766

[Anonymous No.22947796]

Halfway through Elantris, it's decent for a first novel, will probably try Sanderson's other books

[Anonymous No.22947994]

>>22947796
It's his first published novel anyway. He wrote several before getting one published. I think that's the 6th. There were a lot of others as well.

[Anonymous No.22948101]

>>22942575
this will be the most important recommendation you receive this year
STOP making shitty, incorrect book warnings

[Anonymous No.22948127]

still reading way of choices, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.22948170]

man, Princess of Mars is total trash lol

[Anonymous No.22948243]

>>22948170
simpquest

[Anonymous No.22948264]

>>22947796
The first Mistborn book is pretty good, series kind of goes downhill after that though

[Anonymous No.22948274]

>>22948264
the rebellion plotline in mistborn is complete ass, the book only succeeds in the master/apprentice and my fair lady subplots and when vin has to do it all herself at the very end

[Anonymous No.22948458]

>>22948274
>the rebellion plotline in mistborn is complete ass
No, I think it actually works just fine. Rashek's power, at its core, is his ability to control the supply of aetium. Kelsier wasn't wrong to target that supply as his goal for a rebellion, he just misunderstood the reason why Rashek was so desperate to carefully spread it out.

[Anonymous No.22948525]

>watching zima blue episode on netflix
>black man finds out he is a swimming pool robot
>a young black girl made him back in the day
>read the short story this weekend
>zima isn't stated as being black
>it was a young man who built him
every fucking time

[Anonymous No.22948621]

>explicit sex scenes in a fantasy novel
Who actually enjoys this?

[Anonymous No.22948628]

Books for inspiration for a military/espionage/diplomacy setting?
I'm listening to Yukikaze while I do chores but I already lean too much on the pilot stuff.

[Anonymous No.22948636]

>>22943173

I haven't read this series in 18 years but it, along with a few others, sealed for me that fantasy birthed out of Sci-Fi is the ultimate setting,

[Anonymous No.22948650]

>>22948628
if you'll stretch to a "visual book", MUV-LUV
maybe David Wingrove's Chung Kuo series (really, from book 3 onward)

[Anonymous No.22948665]

>>22948621
nope. shit is annoying, so i just skim through it.

[Anonymous No.22948820]

>>22948621
Women. Honestly, they read books just to get to the parts where women are having sex.

[Anonymous No.22948825]

>>22945879

[Anonymous No.22948832]

>>22946025
The canon Second Apocalypse theme of course:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL6Z0S5sPeA
Truth shines

[Anonymous No.22948900]

>>22942295
>he said
>she said
>he said
>holden said

[Anonymous No.22949093]

>>22948264
Strange, I thought it got better as the series progressed. Lestibournes storyline was kino.
I couldn't read the new ones, alloy of law or whatever.

[Anonymous No.22949136]

>>22949093
Spook is a fucken G

[Anonymous No.22949258]

The Jon Shannow trilogy was unexpectedly weird.

[Anonymous No.22949357]

>>22944966
It's a good example on how to run a RPG consisting of Evil characters.
>Rich bitch who wants revenge, that recruits a bunch of bastards to help by promising them shitloads of money.
>Neutral Barbarian hired as muscle, later turns evil because of all the shit that happens to him following the bitch.
>Psychopathic poisoner and his assistant.
>Drunkard backstabbing Mercenary Captain.
>Shadowy evil vampire/ghoul/mage starts the rich bitch on her revenge trip and then spends the rest of the story hanging around backstage giving them an occasional helping hand.
They stick together for most of the story but eventually their true natures rise up and they end up betraying each other/picking each other off at the end. A good story.

[Anonymous No.22949382]

Never read a /sffg/ book.
What do I start with?

[Anonymous No.22949408]

>>22948628
vorkosigan

[Anonymous No.22949411]

>>22948621
Sex scenes in stories can be really important and useful if well done.
However I have also had the experience where I've got to one and realised that I've just wasted 2-3 hours reading a romance novel disguised as genre fic

[Anonymous No.22949423]

>>22942567
Amber's good but for some reason we have a new thread sperg who really hates it

[Anonymous No.22949467]

>>22949357
That is just shitty trope.

[Anonymous No.22949493]

>can't decide what to read
>just pick up Bakker again
It's not fair, bros. The BVLL of fantasy has cucked me out of enjoying anything else.

[Anonymous No.22949501]

>>22946048
>>22946062
>>22948832
samefag as always

[Anonymous No.22949506]

>>22949493
oops forgot this one as well

[Anonymous No.22949521]

>>22949506
I just popped into the thread, I'd actually love to find a book that's not Bakker and scratches the same itch.

[Anonymous No.22949531]

>>22949521
What itch is that?

[Anonymous No.22949536]

>>22949531
When you have a crusty speck of turd stuck in your anus wrinkles and you scratch your asshole and smell your finger and discover it's actually shit.

[Anonymous No.22949547]

>>22949382
Brother, tell us your interests in other shit, movies, games, art, music, comics, hell tell us your dreams or something.

[Anonymous No.22949550]

>>22949536
Have you tried asking >>>/lgbt/ ?

[Anonymous No.22949552]

>>22949547
I play total war: atilla a lot.

[Anonymous No.22949554]

>>22949550
No, could you do it for me since you're a regular there?

[Anonymous No.22949602]

>>22949552
If you like the historical, strategy and political side + big battles.

Dune, Malazan, Storm light, Red Rising, Game of Thrones.

[Anonymous No.22949610]

>>22949554
I can't, I am range banned on /lgbt/. You will have to do it yourself.

[Anonymous No.22949970]

>GOLGETERATRHTAHTH

[Anonymous No.22950265]

>>22949423
>new thread sperg
He's not new, It's just bakkerfag sperging at least he has a read another book, it took him 4 years but still
>Inb4 i get called a tranny because bakkerfag is thinking about cock 24/7 and thinks Twitter/4chan is real life.

[Anonymous No.22950288]

>>22950265
Does twitter/4chan only exist in your imagination?

[Anonymous No.22950293]

Finished GotM today and I loved it, I'm definitely buying the next couple of books, I was a bit skeptical since I haven't read anything in years but I stumbled into the Malazan books by accident and got intrigued by them, Oppon be dammed.

[Anonymous No.22950299]

With how much Bakker is mentioned here I'm almost tempted to read his books.
He's got pretty bad ratings though.

[Anonymous No.22950322]

>>22950293
Enjoy anon, Gardens is alright but Deadhouse Gates and Memories of Ice absolutely blow them out of the water

[Anonymous No.22950450]

I'm reading Belgariad for the first time and it's really comfy, the banter is fun too.

[Anonymous No.22950505]

>>22950299
>falling for an ip switching autists ranting

[Anonymous No.22950654]

>>22950293
What did you love about the book?

[Anonymous No.22950668]

Finished hero of ages. I want to take a break from brandon sanderson stuff for now. Do you have any fantasy recommendations where it's not world ending/changing stuff? Where the MC just does shit around their town or city and fixes local problems?

[Anonymous No.22950725]

>>22950668
>>22950654
>>22950505
>>22950450
>>22950322
>>22950299
>>22950293
>>22950288
>>22950265
>>22949970
>>22949610
>>22949602
>>22949554
>>22949552
>>22949550
>>22949547
>>22949536
>>22949531
>>22949521
>>22949506
>>22949501
>>22949493
>>22949467
>>22949423
>>22949411
>>22949408
>>22949382
Sneed

[Anonymous No.22950831]

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1705346326241286.webm

[Anonymous No.22950877]

Progressionslop book updates:
Climbing the Ranks - Tao Wong hasn't really improved as a writer since I last tried him. Protagonist is a boring guy who kinda goes with the flow and the action mostly happens as a result of that. All in all just not that interesting.
Loremaster - Really liked the opening then it turned into yet another magic school novel. Author isn't afraid to have some actual stakes and consequences even if the characters are again fairly flat. Good enough for me to bother with book 2.
Despite it not being a webnovel as far as I can tell it reads like one, there's a bunch of times where details get pointed out and I'm sure they're gonna matter later only for them to turn out to be just incidental details that the author accidentally drew focus to.
Barely mentions stats which is a plus but it also leads to me realizing that the better end of this genre is just normal fantasy with a protagonist who gets stronger lol.

Think it's time to force myself to read something better desu

[Anonymous No.22950914]

>>22945879

[Anonymous No.22950931]

>>22945879

[Anonymous No.22950944]

>>22950914
>>22950931
if the memes spoil stuff beyond WLW, would you be so kind as to spoiler them?

[Anonymous No.22950950]

>>22950944
this isn’t reddit, weeping fagg

[Anonymous No.22950958]

>>22945879

[Anonymous No.22950963]

>>22950293
I bet you loved the scene where tattersail openly lusted over the giant black guy

[Anonymous No.22950966]

>>22950950
I don't particularly care about spoilers (already know how the series ends), just want to enjoy the particulars when I get there

[Anonymous No.22950969]

>>22950963
MINUTES AFTER her 105 pound twink elf lover gets fucking obliterated btw

[Anonymous No.22950974]

>>22950966
go back

[Anonymous No.22950981]

Anyone read this?
Found it while browsing and it sounded alright

[Anonymous No.22951030]

>>22950981
>Published December 1, 2023
Haha

[Anonymous No.22951035]

>>22950299
>I can easily see why readers - particularly intelligent female readers - hate Bakker's work. The books are brilliantly ornate, but also maddeningly overwrought, and the female characters are disappointing.
>More on misogyny: Bakker doesn't know any synonyms for "bad" (or more than one adjective at all, for that matter), but he evidently read The Patriarchy's Thesaurus because his only fucking word to describe something distasteful is "WOMANISH." HE USES IT ALL THE TIME, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BOOK. Go fuck yourself, Bakker, and go find a new fucking word. I'm out. You can keep your prostitutes who like rape and your women who accept being owned and the insane concubines who think they're the Virgin Mary, because I will not be reading book two to find out what happens to them all.
Most of the criticisms are some variation on "brain hurty", "too purple", or "why are women written as second class citisens in a late antiquity inspired world". Bakker doesn't compromise on writing an actually bleak world (and not simply crafting the facsimile of one through characters swearing and being mopey sometimes).

[Anonymous No.22951045]

>>22950831
accurate

[Anonymous No.22951056]

>>22951035
>his only fucking word to describe something distasteful is "WOMANISH." HE USES IT ALL THE TIME, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE BOOK. Go fuck yourself, Bakker
NTA, but so far you have come the closest to convincing me to read Bakker. I've been holding out for a while because retards spam him every single thread.

[Anonymous No.22951067]

>>22950299
The trilogy is relatively straightforward compared to the bonkers madness of the sequel quadrilogy. I think the trilogy can be safely read by anyone, they just need to be aware going on that this isn't your average fantasy text. Not to say it's a masterpiece the likes of which haven't been seen, but the series is truly weird, no one else (to my knowledge) does what Bakker does. The quadrilogy is fucking bonkers and not for everyone.
>>22951035
>"too purple"
That's a perfectly valid criticism though. I appreciate his lofty language, but often he abuses the written word a bit too much

[Anonymous No.22951076]

>>22950981
Hey Matthew, do you use kdp advertising? If so, any success with it? Good luck with the book.

[Anonymous No.22951104]

>>22951035
>Bakker doesn't compromise on writing an actually bleak world
He compromises the plausability of his world to make it even bleaker
It's really obvious when and where he goes from grimdark worldbuilding to horny worldbuilding

[Anonymous No.22951113]

>>22951056
This general is fucked. There is almost nothing of worth posted on here, and what stuff that is will inevitably be buried under a tide of complete and utter slop.
>I got stuck in a timeloop harmlit rpg game powerfantasy levelup powerfantasy epic bing bing wahoo
or
>droll story done a thousand times with safe characters and modern-palatable message. You know how it ends before it even begins.

I unironically think bakker is the best contemporary fantasy writer living. You'd have to go outside of genre fiction to find someone better. His style is hit or miss, but I find most everything he does reinforces the atmosphere of the books - and that atmosphere is one not found anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.22951115]

>>22951035
he should write protagonists with integrity

[Anonymous No.22951156]

>>22951056
>retards
>s

[Anonymous No.22951169]

How come there are 110 unique IPs in this thread and not a single post worth a damn?

[Anonymous No.22951176]

>>22951169
Because you purposely came here to stir shit and not discuss the topic.

[Anonymous No.22951185]

>>22951169
What books have you been reading lately?

[Anonymous No.22951192]

Why does SFFG fear the Wuxia genre?

[Anonymous No.22951199]

>>22951113
>His style is hit or miss, but I find most everything he does reinforces the atmosphere of the books - and that atmosphere is one not found anywhere else.
I agree, but I actually was disappointed pretty hard by Cil-Aujas. It started off very promising with the madness of the reliefs and the eye in the heart, but then it kind of went nowhere from there. Also it felt like he was trying too hard to one-up Moria
>I'll write my own Moria, with possession and rape monsters

[Anonymous No.22951203]

>>22951113
>>22951199
Also, nice art, where'd you get it and is there any more? I am in desperate need of good Bakker art

[Anonymous No.22951231]

There's an /x/ thread up right now that presents better gnosticism than bakkerfag's favorite series.

[Anonymous No.22951236]

>Murtagh has 10-20 years at best before Nasuada ages out of fuckable territory and eventually dies while he stays immortal
>Eragon will keep banging immortal prime elf pussy until the end of time
Is there any point being a human in a fantasy novel?

[Anonymous No.22951369]

Bakker fag is off his meds again.

[Anonymous No.22951398]

>>22951231
There's no such thing as "better" gnosticism

[Anonymous No.22951422]

Idea: Menocht Loop but good. Or is the idea of skipping the time loop in a time loop story inherently a shit concept?

[Anonymous No.22951467]

>>22950668
Thieves' World by Robert Asprin

[Anonymous No.22951478]

>>22951422
>time loop with no time loop
wot?

[Anonymous No.22951484]

>>22951422
>Idea: Menocht Loop but good.
Mother of Learning?

[Anonymous No.22951508]

>>22951236
>Every race in the setting is just humans+
>Humans but superhuman and immortal (elves)
>Humans but superhuman and longer lived (dwarves)
>Humans but superhuman (urgals)
>All shaped like humans and have human cultures
>Basically act like humans but are just flat out better.
Very very interesting. '''worldbuilding'''.

[Anonymous No.22951512]

>>22951056
all jokes aside i gave in and yeah... its good

[Anonymous No.22951535]

>>22951231
>Retard thinks gnosticism is a theme of the series because the word gnosis is used.
Its literally just the greek word for knowledge bro. There is nothing beyond the 'demiurge' in the SA; it can't be gnostic by definition.

[Anonymous No.22951544]

>>22951508
makese sense in some kinda xianxia/progression fantasy setting where dwarves could be eg people who cultivated earth path and their descendants aren't quite human anymore

[Anonymous No.22951558]

>>22951478
not them but menocht loop starts after the protagonist has already failed a load and got strong within the time loop
it skips all the training and begins with him finally being ready to escape it
>>22951422
Perfect Run's the only good time loop I've read and that starts with the protagonist already being powerful and kinda insane because of the looping (it's his superpower so the specific loop changes but he's thousands of years old from looping various situations in the pas)

[Anonymous No.22951801]

worst fucking book. he doesn't tell you how much yeast and sugar to put in at all. also goes on to some huge fucking tangents about life, death, growing up, growing apart, love, fear and all this other shit. DO I PUT IN FUCKING LEMONS OR WHAT? 1/5 don't bother.

[Anonymous No.22951805]

really need the new chapter of dungeon crawler carl so I can see Donut murder Princess N'adia

[Anonymous No.22951872]

How do I get a Theliopa gf?

[Anonymous No.22951887]

Bakkerfag was right wtf? Though I'm only on second chapter so far I think it's pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.22951947]

>>>22925530
I read watership down next, it was great. I am up to page 60 of Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver and it sucks chunks. I thought cryptonomicon was pretty good but this one is way too nerdy.
So, any further recommendations? I'm thinking I will do Hyperion next.
Check out my new-to-me chair. It's a la-z-boy, very comfy to read in.

[Anonymous No.22952006]

>>22944966

[Anonymous No.22952017]

>>22952006
he cute

[Anonymous No.22952026]

i'm reading dune messiah and i'll be honest there are several sections where i just kinda plow through without really understanding what's happening

[Anonymous No.22952033]

>>22952026
Should read Way of Choices instead
>Character unsheathes his sword for an entire chapter.

[Anonymous No.22952041]

>>22952033
i get the gist of what's happening but sometimes i have trouble fully parsing what's being said when characters are verbally sparring with each other, if that makes sense

[Anonymous No.22952124]

>>22946405
imagine the snakejobs

[Anonymous No.22952151]

>>22952124
Bradford...

[Anonymous No.22952220]

>>22951558
>it skips all the training and begins with him finally being ready to escape it.
Such a work would instantly get disregarded by the mouth breathing fans that infest the 'progression fantasy' genre because; "Zomgawd nawt anothar Mary Sue MC who faces no challenge and is instantly OP, BOOOO! HISSSS!"

I agree that Menocht Loop is unadulterated shit but so is most of the timeloop sub genre. So trying to write in it while also trying to right it is sisyphus-ian at best and worst its just wallowing in the sty that is 'progression fantasy'

[Anonymous No.22952260]

>>22951887
>frogposter
>pathological liar
many such cases

[Anonymous No.22952379]

>>22946405
If God is dead then fantasy is His grave.

I’ve spent thirty-five years, now, searching for the secret of meaning, chasing research across disciplines and arguments through millennia. What is it? Why does it seem to be slowly boiling away? My short fiction and nonfiction on the subject have been published in Nature, Midwest Studies in Philosophy, and The Journal of Consciousness Studies.

But epic fantasy has always been my primary vehicle. For me, fantasy fiction is the crash site of meaning. Create a world possessing the structure of Biblical Israel or Vedic India or Homeric Greece and it will be called fantastic. Create an alternate, intrinsically meaningful world, and the world will instantly recognize it as especially false. The very shape of meaning now indicates delusion: and this, I think, should give us pause.

So I guess you could say that for me, fantasy is a pretty serious thing—something worth pissing people off about! My nutty ambition was to write the only kind of Bible a human could write in this remarkable and blasphemous age—a far different Book of Revelation, more honest to the complicated edges of the world, equally horrific. A textual crypt for the corpse of God.

I knew it was crazy, outrageous even, but I had confidence in my ability to make the wreckage interesting. And with The Unholy Consult coming out this summer, the World at last stands revealed, and I feel like there’s so bloody much I can babble on about...

[Anonymous No.22952385]

Rec me some kino that has pic related vibes.

[Anonymous No.22952391]

>>22952379
TRUTH SHINES

[Anonymous No.22952445]

>>22952385
Berserk

[Anonymous No.22952447]

>>22952385
Reminds me of Art by Clive Barker, his painting mostly but his book series Abarat too.

[Anonymous No.22952488]

>>22952447
I've heard Barker called the opposite of Lovecraft but weren't they alike?
>Lovecraft: I'm xenophobic so horror is stuff from other planets and such
>Barker: I'm gay so horror is sex and women and such

[Anonymous No.22952522]

>>22952488
Well Lovecraft is mostly about the >implication, he shows some stuff but it's always about the unseen, the unspeakable, the beyond. Barker, on the other hand, is pretty much always about a gaggle of devils dancing very visibly on your front porch while he describes the toothpicks skewering their cocks in excruciating details. Now I'm not sure this is what Bakker meant and I've not read Barker since adolescence, but it's my take on it.

[Anonymous No.22952582]

What's the best ebook edition of the Conan stories?

[Anonymous No.22952615]

>>22952391
>deleted
mod doesnt allow quotes from fantasy authors? in the fantasy general? in response to a question about the fantasy genre?
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.22952752]

>>22945153
Why are all the RR user ads so fucking bad? Like I have never seen one that I felt even neutrally about. They're actually all so genuinely awful.

>OP MAIN CHARACTER LITRPG SYSTEM APOCALYPSE HAREM (ai generated pic with that default style setting that everyone uses)

im not fucking clicking on your story and I don't know how you could possibly think that anyone would want to when you describe it like that. I even saw an aggressively bad wojak comic as a story ad recently.

[Anonymous No.22952815]

>>22946405
>Can the fantastical elements tie to the central question or theme as anything other than allegory?
Yes. Fantasy can be a form of speculative fiction.

[Anonymous No.22952843]

>>22952615
Used to be you'd get randomly banned while bakkerposting. Probably what killed off most of the insightful discussion of a year or so back. Clearly the Troon janitor wants us talking about slop 24/7

[Anonymous No.22952914]

>>22952615
could be some shitposter that got banned from all boards, pretty sure that deletes all their posts

[Anonymous No.22953240]

>>22952752
>OP MAIN CHARACTER LITRPG SYSTEM APOCALYPSE HAREM
I cannot comprehend how anyone could want to read something with this description. How is this shit so popular?

[Anonymous No.22953494]

Has anyone read Kidnapped Dragons? How is it?

[Anonymous No.22953573]

>>22940205
Read Piranesi yesterday and it was pretty good, ngl. Was expecting a lot more YA slop but it was pretty interesting. I just wish the book spent a bit more time on what that world actually is

[Anonymous No.22953609]

>>22951947
Watership Down is pretty based

[Anonymous No.22953615]

>>22952615
Turns out your posts get deleted when you spam for 4 years straight. Now you only need to get deleted irl.