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[Anonymous No.22936900]

>But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

This is from Colossians
Just to be clear, Paul here is being pro-bodily discipline, pro-exercise, correct?

[Anonymous No.22936911]

>>22936900
Call of the Crocodile spam threads are better than this nu-lit trash.

[Anonymous No.22936919]

>>22936911
It is truly remarkable. The entire generation is in the grips of a litany of reactionary ideas sourced entirely out of
>tfw no gf

The whole generation is on a masculinity quest but it has no idea what masculinity is because its notion of that comes from television and other media.

[Anonymous No.22936926]

>>22936911
>>22936919
What are you niggers smoking.

It's a vanilla thread discussing a bible passage.

[Anonymous No.22936929]

>>22936919
Yeah yeah go back to cultivating your cuck thread communist

[Anonymous No.22936937]

>>22936919
again with this insane western notion that the solution is knowledge, that to know a thing is to have it. it's wrong. "healthy" or "traditional" masculinity is no longer possible for most no matter what they know or do.

[Anonymous No.22936979]

>>22936900
I need a cute daughter.
Where does one find a smart wife?

[Anonymous No.22936983]

>>22936979
>daughter

[Anonymous No.22936985]

>>22936919
Interesting how right when this was occurring, the system propped up a bald materialist muslim named Andrew Tate to steer the conversation...

[Anonymous No.22936993]

That's nice and all gentlemen, but can you discuss the actual passage for a second?

[Anonymous No.22936998]

>>22936993
no

[Anonymous No.22937010]

>>22936900
I don't think it's Colossians and think the context was more about keeping the faith

[Anonymous No.22937021]

>>22936993
Back to /fit/ you troon-adjacent 'roids muncher.

[Anonymous No.22937082]

>>22936900
This is how the average white man would be living if white women never got rights. Taking nice relaxing drives with his child wife

[Anonymous No.22937148]

>>22936900
>I discipline my body and bring it into subjection
Discipline of the body is regular fasting. Without it, the body thinks it has every right to growl and grumble until it's past full, infecting your will with gluttonous urges. Teach it who is in charge!

The verse is actually 1 Cor. 9:27, and the first pertinent verb is 'ὑπωπιάζω' (Strong's G5299), here translated 'I discipline' but the gloss reads 'to beat black and blue, to smite so as to cause bruises'; the second is 'δουλαγωγέω' (G1396), which is translated feebly as 'bring into subjection' but glossed as 'to lead away into slavery, claim as one's slave; to make a slave and to treat as a slave i.e. with severity, subject to stern and rigid discipline'.

So, we could reword this for clarity and intensity as follows:
>But I beat my body black and blue, treating it like a slave, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.

Of course you're going to take this to mean you should become as jacked as possible, but it's far more beneficial to you to see the limits of your own strength of will with a fast. Forsake food and you'll realize just how much of the world revolves around it and why we ought to give thanks to God for all that we do eat, because, truthfully, if one were to love God with all his mind, he would cease to desire food and expire; he'd die!

[Anonymous No.22937231]

>>22937148
Thanks for this wonderful reply.
So it's basically about extreme discipline to overcome carnal urges.

[Anonymous No.22938227]

>>22937148
Great post, this is exactly it. I have nothing against physical excellence but 'getting jacked' very much goes with the grain of who you are, an embodied male animal. Fasting goes the other direction, towards the shedding of physical and cognitive mass. The bodybuilder who relies on supplement regimens and strict diets will always implicate more systems of dependency than the monk peacefully sitting in his cell.

[Anonymous No.22938254]

>>22936900
Nice loli

[Anonymous No.22938265]

>>22938227
So one should go for lean natural muscle while getting jacked but on the other hand keeping his body fat below 8%, abstaining from sugar, certain fats and consuming moderate amount of certain carbs

[Anonymous No.22938348]

>>22938265
Do your workout routine, but eat once a day, and eat modestly at that. Or maybe once every other day during rest periods. And drop the macros and pre-planned meals. The body adapts.

[Anonymous No.22938372]

>>22938348
I eat meat several times a day, but all that other body builder diet stuff is nonsense. If one cannot maintain his physique with normal food (with additional protein that comes from meat) then that workout routine/diet/training plan is garbage.

[Anonymous No.22938394]

>>22938372
The early monastics subsisted on little sleep and daily manual labour even when they were fasting. And yes, agreed. I'd go as far as to say that 'physique' is garbage, and supernormal in all the most unsustainable ways. It never made sense to me to depend on Amazon's supply chains to deliver me a laundry list of supplements and powders to grow my body every week, or expel the death fungus in my anus or whatever it is now with these kids. Min-maxing like that is silly to me. You depend on so much that is outside of you to maintain your sense of self. Not my cup of tea.

[Anonymous No.22938424]

>>22938394
The 'early monastics' were idiots. Sleep is one of the most important factor in maintaining good health and preventing mental decline and neuro degeneration. Little sleep will make you mentally 20 years older and will also have an effect on your body, muscles etc. Plenty of sleep, good food, exercise is the foundation of great physical and mental health.

[Anonymous No.22938427]

>>22936900
Yes. St. Paul grew up in Tarsus which was a center of Stoic activity in his time.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/3142715

But it also means conquering the temptations of the flesh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh_(theology)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortification_of_the_flesh

>>22938394
>pic

>>22936900
>>22936979
>>22937082
Literally Lolita.

[Anonymous No.22938442]

>>22938424
Monks have been known to require less sleep as they grow on the path. The partition between waking and sleep breaks down the more comfortable you become with stillness because you are accessing unconscious levels of mind typically reserved for sleep. What you're talking about is a profane ideal of health. It's far better than being an obese compulsive gooner but it isn't what those monastics were aiming for. More often than not, it's rooted in craving and vanity, the desire to escape your facticity. I would never be so naive as to reduce the pursuit of physical excellence to a trauma response (but there is something to be said about that, men like Michael Jordan and David Goggins weren't exactly motivated by sunshine and butterflies), but I can't imagine a scenario where benching 4 plates would be a necessity in the spiritual life.

[Anonymous No.22938456]

>>22938442
That is a load of crap. Sleep is sleep, you can meme and larp your spirituality nonsense as much as you want to but it cannot replace sleep. The less you sleep the worse your mental capabilities become.

[Anonymous No.22938460]

>lust provoking image

[Anonymous No.22938469]

>>22936900
Hes talking about chastity cages

[Anonymous No.22938479]

>>22938460
Is it the feet?

[Anonymous No.22938487]

>>22938479
I plead the fifth

[Anonymous No.22938492]

>>22938460
lol dude you might not have noticed but that's a CHILD

[Anonymous No.22938500]

>>22938456
I don't care to convince you of anything. Have a fine day

[Anonymous No.22938577]

>>22938487
I lick the feat

[Anonymous No.22938590]

>>22938577
Stop licking the damn thing!

[Anonymous No.22938596]

>>22938492
That's clearly not a child, probably a 15 year old. Well within the limits of what is acceptable.

[Anonymous No.22938682]

>>22938596
Nah that 100% book Dolores Haze who was 12 instead of 14 like Dominique Swain

[Anonymous No.22938688]

>>22938682
i love girls so much

[Anonymous No.22938703]

>>22938688
Same bro i love children but i also love older mature women there is this video of Dominique Swain as a grown women with her lolita pigtail hair shit made me fucking diamonds it made me understand why prophet Mohammed had a milf gf and a loli wife

[Anonymous No.22939116]

>>22938427
pic also related, the philokalia

[Anonymous No.22939815]

>>22936900
no, retard. he's talking about hitting yourself for the sake of religion. he's using exercise as a metaphor for religion.

Exercise: you hurt yourself to get ripped (even though you're gonna die)
Religious discipline: you whip yourself so you don't have bad thoughts (so you live forever)

[Anonymous No.22940182]

>>22936900
Yes

also, it would be better for you to have a millstone tied to your neck and be cast into the sea than to cause any of God's little children to sin

[Anonymous No.22941700]

>>22940182
Why?

[Anonymous No.22941851]

>>22938460
The focus is on the male in the foreground. What relation he has to the girl is unknown, but it seems she's somewhat capable herself.

[Anonymous No.22942471]

>>22941851
Hehe my focus is definitely not on the male...

[Anonymous No.22942638]

>>22936919
Women’s only purpose is to shit out kids, not cockblock men and prevent them from carrying out their lineage. They’re physically weaker and just need a hard dicking.

[Anonymous No.22942759]

>>22941851
>What relation he has to the girl is unknown
It's literally a scene straight from Lolita.

[Anonymous No.22942778]

>>22936900
masuda is god-tier

[Anonymous No.22942783]

>>22936900
>Just to be clear, Paul here is being pro-bodily discipline, pro-exercise, correct?
There's no proof Paul ever said this. Who is the author who wrote this into the Bible?

[Anonymous No.22942868]

>>22942638
The supremum of male fear of women is male hatred of women, and the supremum of male hatred of women is male denial of female humanity.

You did it anon. You internalized a fear of female laughter so vast that you have concluded female minds cannot possibly exist behind the laughter.

(It doesn't have to be this way. Forgive yourseld and forgive women. Neither of you created this mess)

[Anonymous No.22942892]

>>22936900
he’s just talking about self control generally. your brain is your body also yknow

[Anonymous No.22943030]

>>22942868
Nah, I’m cool. You do you, though.

[Anonymous No.22944679]

>>22936900
I love that pic