/lit/ Top Books: 2023 Chart

[Anonymous No.22922948]

What do we think?

[Anonymous No.22922951]

>>22922948
Barely any nonfiction, why?

[Anonymous No.22922954]

>>22922951
Everything is fiction.

[Anonymous No.22922956]

>>22922951
/lit/ focuses on Literature

[Anonymous No.22922960]

>56

[Anonymous No.22922967]

>>22922948
It’s a solid chart

[Anonymous No.22922972]

>>22922948
Actually we got better each year and I'm happy that /lit/ has changed

[Anonymous No.22922976]

kek

[Anonymous No.22922979]

How much shilling would i have to do to get a book i want on next years chart?

[Anonymous No.22922980]

>>22922948
What books did you submit but did not make it into the top 100?

For me it was Tao Te Ching

[Anonymous No.22922981]

You guys posted it on the wrong subreddit. R/4chan is shitting only on mein kampf. R/books would have a melt down with the lack of POC authors. I'll wait for you guys there.

[Anonymous No.22922987]

>>22922980
huh? I think I voted for Tao Te Ching too. I mentioned how strange it was that it didn't make it on the list in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.22923000]

>>22922981
Post it there and link it here. I’m banned from Leddit.

[Anonymous No.22923004]

>>22922980
Musashi

[Anonymous No.22923009]

>>22923000
Someone should post it on r/books and r/literature

[Anonymous No.22923016]

>>22922981
Huh? But there are Greeks, Italians, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, one part black author. Plenty of “PoCs”.

[Anonymous No.22923050]

I'd like to start reading my way through this list, but I have a retarded question to start:
What are some "prerequisites" for reading these? I normally consume genre fiction and am generally incapable of reading critically. I can really only pick up on surface themes and generally miss religious/historical/literary allusions. Is there any value in annotated versions?

[Anonymous No.22923054]

>>22923050
> Is there any value in annotated versions?
Yea, they’re really helpful. The older the book, the less you can understand (potentially). They explain the allusion or references a modern reader might not get.

[Anonymous No.22923057]

>>22923050

There's no prerequisites besides having a functionning brain, honestly. I'd recommend starting with shorter and newer books, since those are usually easier to read and an easier transition into classical literature if you usually enjoy genre fiction. Books like 1984, Lolita, American Psycho and some others are the best starting points, and then you can move on to others. Also, a lot of these are not enjoyable, so don't let shitty books (aka The Picture of Dorian Gray) put you off.

[Anonymous No.22923104]

>>22923050
Just read. If a book is genuinely good, you won't pick up on a lot of things, but it'll still be a rich and fulfilling experience.

[Anonymous No.22923118]

>>22922948
Moby dick is gay

[Anonymous No.22923119]

>>22922951
I count 9. Almost 1/10th of that chart isn't bad.

[Anonymous No.22923123]

>>22922980
A Hero of Our Time
Atlas Shrugged

They were both on the list last year too.

[Anonymous No.22923124]

Way too many books by women

[Anonymous No.22923136]

>>22922948
Holy shit. Remove every single dostotranny and its unironically perfect. Proud of you /lit/.

[Anonymous No.22923158]

>>22923123
>lermontov removed
>multiple dostotranny and tolstoishit on there
at least there's dead souls in there so its not completely emberassing

[Anonymous No.22923163]

>>22922948
absolute meme list

[Anonymous No.22923183]

>>22923136
>>22923158
are you some sort of butthurt ukrie?

[Anonymous No.22923192]

>>22922979
If you shill enough now, by the end of the year the retards will already be shilling for you and parroting your ideas.

[Anonymous No.22923203]

>>22922979
I tried shilling with Tarka the Otter for a pretty good chunk of the year and still only got one vote (my own ;-;).

[Anonymous No.22923209]

>>22923183
Why would an Ukrainian be mad that lermontov is removed? I'm Russian but I hate the preachy moralfag way Dostoevsky writes and forces his christian beliefs in his stories, Tolstoy is more tolerable.

[Anonymous No.22923216]

>>22923136
>filtered by dostoevsky of all authors
kek

[Anonymous No.22923288]

>61

[Anonymous No.22923304]

>>22922976
is he right?

[Anonymous No.22923309]

>>22922979
Nigga, the last 11 books have just 3 votes each.

[Anonymous No.22923393]

>>22923304
link?

[Anonymous No.22923398]

>>22923183
Why would ukies be butthurt when they're about to join nato?

[Anonymous No.22923422]

>>22923163
Why?

[Anonymous No.22923441]

Which faggot rw twitter poster will be the first to tweet this garbage and get 6000 likes for some reason

[Anonymous No.22923458]

>>22923050
As always, start with the Greeks.

[Anonymous No.22923465]

>>22923393
no, I prefer Zelda

[Anonymous No.22923466]

>>22922980
Horcynus Orca
Pretty sure if I shill the threads for this year's chart enough I could get the other two italianons in here to vote for it and have it make the list to troll the anglos

[Anonymous No.22923470]

>>22922956
Literature =/= fiction

[Anonymous No.22923481]

thank me later

[Anonymous No.22923485]

>>22922951
what non-fiction did you vote for?

[Anonymous No.22923490]

>>22922980
Herodotus :(

[Anonymous No.22923513]

>>22923481
For what? You being a retarded fag doesn't help me a bit.

[Anonymous No.22923552]

>>22923458
Fuck off, this meme is dead

>>22923470
There is no such thing as nonfiction.

[Anonymous No.22923612]

>>22922980
Didn't make it. Sorry lad.

[Anonymous No.22923619]

>>22923481
These are the good ones?

[Anonymous No.22923621]

>>22923612
101-200 chart when?

[Anonymous No.22923640]

>>22923621
I'm back to university, it'll be some time. I'm working though an honours degree and work on my free days. Once I can find the free time to work on it I'll get it to you though.

[Anonymous No.22923656]

>>22923050
The starter kit

[Anonymous No.22923659]

>>22923619
Those are all the non english books

[Anonymous No.22923688]

>>22923659
Oh

[Anonymous No.22923747]

>>22923659
>Reading works in translation
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.22923765]

>>22923747
90% of the time English translation actually improves the original work because English is the supreme language. It flows beautifully, its not awkward, its the most flexible and most expressive, you can write in any style you want and it just works as long as you possess necessary skill and talent. And I'm saying this as an ESL because I want to be honest, and these are my honest thoughts.

[Anonymous No.22923770]

>>22923765
lol

[Anonymous No.22923777]

>>22923765
drop some examples

[Anonymous No.22923786]

>>22923777
I've talked to many educated Russians who left the country after the war started and the common opinion among them is that Dostoevsky in English is actually superior to the Dostoevsky in Russian. I couldn't get out of them specific reasons as to why they feel that way, except vague things like "English gives his writings certain mysterious quality that is absent in the original works" and "It just feels better to read".

[Anonymous No.22923791]

>>22923786
I’ve felt the same way about Henry James in French desu

[Anonymous No.22923805]

>>22922948
This is the biggest part time edgelord part time pseudointellectual wannbe pedant list I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.22923811]

>>22923765
This is true for all you retards who know nothing of history or linguistics.

[Anonymous No.22923821]

>>22923811
I like the part where he says
> It flows beautifully, its not awkward
Tells me all I needed to know about this faggot.

[Anonymous No.22923823]

>>22923821
This is also true

[Anonymous No.22923879]

>>22922948
Even slightly more cringe than usual.

[Anonymous No.22923910]

>>22922948
>top books 2023
>actually not a single book from 2023, same old books
why make this list, just make one every 200 years

[Anonymous No.22923916]

>>22923910
You vote for your favorite books, not the best books in the year the chart is made. Your issue seems to be you misunderstand the premise

[Anonymous No.22923927]

>>22923916
whats the point of having the same people vote for the same books every year though

[Anonymous No.22923955]

>>22923927
To see how the community has changed year to year. The beginning of the chart is more or less set in stone but the bottom half of the chart is volatile year to year and I think that’s the more interesting section to look at

[Anonymous No.22923965]

>>22923640
How many votes did these get?
>>22923123

[Anonymous No.22923969]

>>22923965
If the threads still up I'll post their results when I'm back from uni.

[Anonymous No.22923976]

>>22922980
Last exit to Brooklyn

Nobody ever talks about it here

[Anonymous No.22923989]

too many of those books are too long wtf?
im thinkin any book above 200 pages is too much, 250 being the absolute maximum; anything else i'll maybe look into a summary of sorts just so i have some context

[Anonymous No.22923995]

>>22923485
One-Dimensional Man

[Anonymous No.22924005]

>>22923989
Just fucking read man

[Anonymous No.22924032]

>>22923965
There's also a link on the right of the graph that you can access the data sheet through.

[Anonymous No.22924050]

Top 100 books I'll definitely read, one of these days

[Anonymous No.22924092]

>>22923989
Longer books are better.

[Anonymous No.22924109]

>>22924092
I don't think either is necessarily better. Novels should be the length the narrative requires and no more. I don't want to read 400 additional pages of filler or a shallow dip in the pond.

[Anonymous No.22924114]

>>22924109
This nigger gets it

[Anonymous No.22924116]

>>22923989
if you check the wiki in the sticky you’ll find charts with only short books

[Anonymous No.22924132]

>>22924114
First time I've felt content with being called a nigger on this board. Thanks anon ^w^

[Anonymous No.22924169]

>>22924132
Don't pander to racists

[Anonymous No.22924170]

>>22922948
They're all good choises

[Anonymous No.22924189]

>>22922980
I submitted Grapes of Wrath. It only got 2 votes.

[Anonymous No.22924191]

>>22923422
There are too many American works on it.
Previous lists were much more international.
I always discuss the top 100 lists with my wife, and she just laughed at this one.

[Anonymous No.22924206]

>>22922980
Surprised One Hundred Years of Solitude is not there. More surprised that Pedro Paramo is there and the former is not.

[Anonymous No.22924211]

>>22924206
It's on the list.

[Anonymous No.22924212]

>>22922951
Yeah, where is Herodotus? Answer me, OP!

[Anonymous No.22924213]

>>22922980
Van Gogh’s letters
Les Chants de Maldorer
The Rainbow
Leaves of Grass

[Anonymous No.22924214]

>>22924206
nevermind, just saw it is number 70. me stupid.

[Anonymous No.22924217]

>>22922948
Lost Illusions is probably the most surprising entry. I’ve been wanting to read it for a bit, I should check it out

[Anonymous No.22924246]

>>22924109
>he thinks in terms of narrative
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.22924260]

>>22924213
It’s Maldoror

[Anonymous No.22924304]

>>22924191
>and she just laughed at this one.
She was laughing at your cock presumably.

[Anonymous No.22924346]

[Anonymous No.22924366]

>>22924346
just saw this on r/4chan lol
illiterates suck

[Anonymous No.22924369]

>>22924346
Very harsh words, what's Reddit's list of top 100 books for comparison?

[Anonymous No.22924389]

>>22924369
Kind of the same except with more women and negroes (and no religious books).

[Anonymous No.22924398]

>>22924304
Then she wouldn't be my wife.
No, she laughed this new list. The old ones are way better.

[Anonymous No.22924405]

>>22924398
Like this one.

[Anonymous No.22924407]

>>22924369

[Anonymous No.22924413]

Plato was right about democracy

[Anonymous No.22924416]

>>22924405
>more negroes
Predictable
>Watchmen
lol
>Invention of Morel
Mid as all fuck

[Anonymous No.22924420]

>>22922948
I think the cynicism and jadedness will mean no anons will ever like the list lol. Just a reminder these aren’t your favorites so why should you care? It’s just tiring hearing everyone complain about something that doesn’t involve them.

[Anonymous No.22924423]

>>22924407
>more negroes
Predictable
>Watchmen
lol
>Invention of Morel
Mid as all fuck

[Anonymous No.22924489]

>>22924217
I've never seen as many Balzac threads as this year so that explains it.

[Anonymous No.22924501]

>>22924489
I feel like most Balzac threads are jokes about his name

[Anonymous No.22924510]

>>22924407
>Shakespeare at 20
>Dante at 66
>Homer not present (!!!!!!!!!) while including Alan Moore, Vonnegut, Le Guin and fucking Dune
The token authors are whatever, it's an ideology thing so it's a separate issue and at least they have the semblance of being literary, it's the slop that's really insulting. Can't believe there are people who live like this.

[Anonymous No.22924589]

>>22923118
Moby Dick is excellent, bro.

[Anonymous No.22924705]

>>22924510
>Homer not present
Are you blind?

[Anonymous No.22924721]

>>22924705
Is this an ironic shitpost?

[Anonymous No.22924729]

>>22924510
Alan Moore is better and more creative than the negroes there.

[Anonymous No.22924811]

>>22924501
Sure, but there were a few anons that actually read his work.

[Anonymous No.22924837]

>>22924811
Yeah. The incentive is pretty low to put your thoughts out there on something you actually read

[Anonymous No.22924878]

>>22924510
Is dune really that bad? All my buddies have been BEGGING me to read it and I have the trilogy sitting in my stack

[Anonymous No.22924883]

>>22924878
It's good if you're a teenager or at most in your early 20s.

[Anonymous No.22924886]

>>22922948
Could be worse

[Anonymous No.22924893]

>>22922948
Is Moby Dick that good? What are its strenghts?

[Anonymous No.22924900]

>>22924893
Girth and length

[Anonymous No.22924922]

>>22924893
it filters retards

[Anonymous No.22924944]

>wiki hasn't been updated since 2020
did anyone make an aggregated?

[Anonymous No.22924948]

>>22924944
The wiki guy died of covid

[Anonymous No.22924959]

>>22924948
really? Jesus

[Anonymous No.22925016]

>>22924878
It's not that it's bad. It's just worthless and with no literary merit whatsoever. Check it out if you are into sci-fi and want to see where a few tropes orginated from, otherwise I would not bother

[Anonymous No.22925199]

>>22924893
It's probably the greatest work of English literature ever written.

[Anonymous No.22925362]

>>22924729
Alan Moore is a good comic writer in that he relies heavily on the comic medium to make good comics, but outside that he doesn't do well. This isn't meant to be harsh criticism more similar to saying a great playwrite isn't good at prose.

[Anonymous No.22925367]

>>22922980
Guenon - Symbols of Sacred Science, Descartes, Evola - Revolt Against the Modern World, Descartes - Meditations

[Anonymous No.22925495]

>>22924944
There's one in the charts mega and also a spreadsheet.

[Anonymous No.22925525]

>>22925199
Kys

[Anonymous No.22925549]

>>22925199
I’m the US you are taught it in school like a sacred text and it becomes the schema that you compare all novels to.
From the outside, the reverence is quite puzzling. But the same thing is done for Shakespeare here in the UK.

[Anonymous No.22925571]

>>22925549
>I’m the US
Oh shit. The US showed up to the thread.

[Anonymous No.22925590]

>>22925571
American website

[Anonymous No.22925614]

>>22925590
Your website

[Anonymous No.22925627]

>>22923057
American psycho is a more formally experimental and consequentially more challenging read than something like crime and punishment

[Anonymous No.22925631]

>>22923123
>Atlas Shrugged
Grow up

[Anonymous No.22925635]

>>22922948
What are the shortest books in these <200 pages that I could read in a day?

[Anonymous No.22925637]

>>22923209
Isn’t Christianity the basis of Russian society?

[Anonymous No.22925643]

>>22925635
Probably Alice in Wonderland. If you struggle finishing that in a day you may as well give up.

[Anonymous No.22925649]

>>22923805
No it would be packed with Schopenhauer and Rand and shit like that

[Anonymous No.22925667]

>>22924407
This isn’t very different desu

[Anonymous No.22925668]

>>22922979
I bitched a lot about Journey to the end of the night not making the list last year and this year it's there.

[Anonymous No.22925670]

>>22924729
Comic books are for children

[Anonymous No.22925672]

>>22924878
Science fiction isn’t literature with very few exceptions so it’s irrelevant

[Anonymous No.22925676]

>>22924893
Just read it

[Anonymous No.22925679]

>>22925635
Stoner and Lolita are short

[Anonymous No.22925680]

>>22925199
Pish posh and poppycock.

[Anonymous No.22925691]

>>22922948
>Kokoro didn't make it this year
You disappoint me, /lit/.

[Anonymous No.22925711]

>>22925679
Lolita is 500 pages in my language

[Anonymous No.22925722]

>>22925711
What the hell, read something by William Maxwell, his novels are short

[Anonymous No.22925727]

>>22925670
So are books, then.

[Anonymous No.22925752]

>>22925727
Books can be literature.

[Anonymous No.22925755]

>>22925670
So is Alice in Wonderland. Doesn't stop it from being excellent literature.

[Anonymous No.22925833]

>>22923158
Dead Souls being the best Russian lit and occupying 80+ is a travesty

[Anonymous No.22925946]

>>22923786
What translations did they read, or is it just English Dosto in general?

[Anonymous No.22925986]

>>22925752
Comics can be art.

[Anonymous No.22925987]

>>22925672
Which are?

[Anonymous No.22925999]

>>22924407
>The same fucking books plus Jane Austen and Toni Morrison
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

[Anonymous No.22926031]

>>22924407
Anons...are redditors our lost cousins?

[Anonymous No.22926062]

>>22923659
Mein kampf was written in english?

>>22924407
>>22926031
If you ignore the order, it's at least half the same books.

>>22925643
Ugh. Alice in wonderland is like reading your deceased great uncle's dream journal.

[Anonymous No.22926070]

>>22926062
Filtered

[Anonymous No.22926085]

>>22926070
Shrug. It was tedious.

[Anonymous No.22926094]

>Shrug
Why type that? Soiboi moment

[Anonymous No.22926146]

>>22923158
>muh russian literature
It’s all garbage.

[Anonymous No.22926158]

>>22926031
r/truelit is /lit/ expats who left the board due to the extremists and Christian threads so yes
If you check out r/books it will look very different
>>22925999
Don't forget the token invisible man

[Anonymous No.22926194]

>>22925672
Which are these exceptions? Gene Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.22926196]

>>22926158
>left the board due to the extremists and Christian threads
Lol, is this for real?

[Anonymous No.22926214]

>>22923765
This is retarded. Learn Ancient Greek and tell me English grammar is "flexible".

[Anonymous No.22926218]

>>22924169
>>>/reddit/

>>22924132
newfag

[Anonymous No.22926321]

Where is it then?

[Anonymous No.22926350]

>>22926196
Christtranny spam has made me consider leaving multiple times but I just can't stand reddit. I've been here for more than 10 years btw

[Anonymous No.22926412]

>>22925631
Not an argument

[Anonymous No.22926436]

>>22924407
genuinely surprised celine is there

[Anonymous No.22926470]

>>22926350
Just ignore the threads and stop being resentful, retard.

[Anonymous No.22926479]

>>22923050
The prerequisite is reading all the books from the charts of preceding years. You just can’t understand the 2023 chart without the 2022 one.

[Anonymous No.22926528]

[Anonymous No.22926535]

>>22925986
Wrong

[Anonymous No.22926566]

>>22922980
House of Leaves

[Anonymous No.22926650]

>>22926146
cope

[Anonymous No.22926652]

>>22926350
For me it was the /pol/ faggotry. Everyone seems to be too concerned with politics/history more than with literature.

[Anonymous No.22926715]

>no my diary Desu
/lit/ has fallen

[Anonymous No.22926783]

>>22925635
The Metamorphosis by Kafka is like 60 pages.

Catcher in the Rye is ~200 pages and easy to finish in a day

[Anonymous No.22926823]

>>22925635
Old man and the Sea and Metamorphosis are pretty light novellas

[Anonymous No.22926838]

>>22922948
Which one of these is the longest and baddest book on this list? (Apart of the bible of course?

[Anonymous No.22926844]

>>22926838
I can't be bothered to check over the whole list, but if there's any Gass or Gaddis, it's sure to be that.

[Anonymous No.22926887]

>>22926838
what do you mean by baddest?

[Anonymous No.22926909]

>>22926887
Difficult, an all around filter

[Anonymous No.22926914]

>>22926909
'e 'ick

[Anonymous No.22927020]

>>22926909
In this case, any from the meme trilogy is a good pick, those books became memes here in the first place because they filter hard a lot of people. Mason & Dixon and The Recognitions fit the bill quite well, too.
Proust's Lost Time, and Man Without Quality are good candidates not for being very complex but they are extremely long.
Honorable mentions to Blood Meridian and Moby-Dick.

[Anonymous No.22927024]

>>22926909
Proust, easily
While not nearly as exuberant as say Ukysses its sheer length will filter most

[Anonymous No.22927109]

>>22926062
>Alice in wonderland is like reading your deceased great uncle's dream journal.
you certainly must have had a rather talented great uncle if he was writing like that.

[Anonymous No.22927123]

>>22923203
I've been planning to read it for a year, but haven't started it yet.
I also didn't vote this year.

[Anonymous No.22927145]

>>22923304
>Gay-Stein
Kek

[Anonymous No.22927160]

>>22922980
Alan Moore's Jeruslem.

[Anonymous No.22927173]

>>22924407
>They put Alan Moore on, it's not one of his actual novels or From Hell, clearly his best comicbook.
Reddit, reddit. Other than that and the anglosaxon domination, it's a solid list.

[Anonymous No.22927177]

>>22924893
Cetology chapters.

[Anonymous No.22927208]

>>22926528
Filtered by the whiteness of the whale. Many such cases.

[Anonymous No.22927215]

>>22927020
>>22927024
Thank you fellas
>Search Lost Time
>+4000 pages
Damn... Challenge accepted
>>22926914
*icked*

[Anonymous No.22927226]

>>22922948
>What do we think?
they're never actually discussed here. Most post2015 anons don't really read much fiction.

its lies really. Trying to impress who?

[Anonymous No.22927249]

>>22927226
>Most post2015 anons don't really read much fiction.
True, myself included.
>its lies really. Trying to impress who?
However, just because I haven't read a lot of fiction lately doesn't mean I can't vote for a fiction book that I read years ago, say Don Quijote, that I really loved at the time.

[Anonymous No.22927767]

>>22922948
Stoner is good
but it is not that good

[Anonymous No.22927856]

>>22927767
agreed.
it's a good book. that's it.

[Anonymous No.22927863]

no J R

[Anonymous No.22927945]

>>22922948
Good list, but there's nonfiction mixed with fiction. Philosophy books should not be allowed.

[Anonymous No.22928000]

>>22926094
I'm not a teen anymore. Not everything has to be a fight.

>>22927024
>>22927215
I really liked Proust... Still haven't finish it. I hope to, but honestly I might not.
Rating: 10 brain fried zoomer points out of 10

[Anonymous No.22928044]

>>22927945
why? there are philosophical works with high literary merit.

[Anonymous No.22928154]

>>22923163
This. People on this board are clueless about literature, I mean those books are mostly good but it's always the same fucking list

[Anonymous No.22928156]

>>22928154
Not true. Only the first 1/3 of the list is the same. Lots of variation from then onwards

[Anonymous No.22928157]

>>22928154
what do you expect? there's a limited amount of classics.
illuminate us with a selection of great works not on the list

[Anonymous No.22928173]

>>22928157
Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.22928175]

>>22927945
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.22928216]

basically nu/lit/ can't get its head round whether they like a book or not until it has been digested for decades and been accepted into the canon or made part of school/college curriculums. You guys need breast-fed.

also, most of you haven't read any of these books.
embarrassing

[Anonymous No.22928450]

>>22924878
Dune is fantastic, one of my favorites. The first book is GOATed. Second book is very good too. Third book is where things get kind of weird. I'd recommend if you actually do decide to read the series, at least go up to the fourth book, God Emperor of Dune is phenomenal and arguably as good if not better than the first installment. The last two books of the series are hard for me to form an opinion on. I enjoyed reading them somewhat but I have to admit they don't feel quite as well rounded as my favorites of the series. Still good, just weak in some areas. 3, 5, and 6 are definitely the weaker installments. Honestly someone getting into Dune could just read up to four and they'd have read like 90 percent of everything worthwhile. And like everyone else I have never touched his son's extended universe and have no plans to.

[Anonymous No.22928462]

>>22922948
Interesting

[Anonymous No.22928468]

>>22928216
most of these books are on the list every year. I hate fags like you, of which there are like 50 in the thread.
>err why do the classics feature heavily in a top 100 of all time list durrrrrr you're just parroting opinions durrrr

[Anonymous No.22928481]

>>22922948
of the top 10 I only ever see the bible and blood meridian mentioned here with any regularity

[Anonymous No.22928502]

>>22928481
i see a decent amount of threads for all of the top 22 except ficciones, it's just dwarfed by endless low effort commie spam about their retarded ideology

[Anonymous No.22928519]

There used to be a time when Gravity’s Rainbow was a lock for top 5, and V., The Crying of Lot 49, and M&D would all make the list as well. Now GR’s not even in the top 25 and M&D was the only other Pynchon that made the list. I don’t know what happened to this place.

I think I may just leave and never come back.

[Anonymous No.22928529]

>>22928519
You reminded me of the liberals who said they would move to Canada if Hillary didn’t win.

[Anonymous No.22928533]

>>22928519
>I don’t know what happened to this place.
the two or three people who voted for Pynchon's books grew up and moved on

[Anonymous No.22928549]

>>22928519
bottom 11 books tied with 3 votes each, you could have single handedly gotten them on the list if you voted

[Anonymous No.22928656]

>>22926194
Idk clockwork orange is literature even tho it’s bad

[Anonymous No.22928667]

>>22926412
I’m not arguing with you, you just need to grow up

[Anonymous No.22928670]

>>22928481
I see Moby Dick discussed a lot.

[Anonymous No.22928675]

>>22926350
The Christianity threads on here are insufferable even though Christianity is obviously true

[Anonymous No.22928781]

>>22928519
GR was top 5 only one year when this place was chock full of redditors. Whatever happened, it was good. V., lot 49 never belonged on the list.

[Anonymous No.22929474]

>>22922980
The Aeneid. Absurd omission.

[Anonymous No.22929578]

>>22924407
this is the list of prescribed texts at school/college

[Anonymous No.22929707]

How come this board have such a shit taste?
How is Lolita 8th and Faust 13th? Both of these are mid
Ans also, objectively, the Quran is a better piece of litterature than the Bible, so it makes no sense that the Bible is this high

[Anonymous No.22929709]

>>22922976
>/lit
I will find this poster and kill him. I'm serious

[Anonymous No.22929714]

>>22924346
>>22924366
kill yourselves

[Anonymous No.22930834]

>>22929707
>mid

[Anonymous No.22930835]

>>22928481
there are always stoner threads

[Anonymous No.22930837]

>>22926535
cope

[Anonymous No.22931725]

>>22929578
It's mostly the same list

[Anonymous No.22931983]

>>22922948
>Siddharta

don't waste your time reading this orientalist garbage written by a german protestant, read actual buddhist books instead

[Anonymous No.22932812]

>>22929707
The Quran is fucking garbage and was written for 80iq midwits like you and your inbreded cousins whereas the Bible is possibly the most significant piece of literature in the world which has been an inspiration for many authors.

[Anonymous No.22932946]

>>22932812
No anon you have not read it
And if you have it doesn't work in translation and you should listen to shitskins yelling and expectorating in your ear over and over because Arab is magic and that cacophony is actually the real voice of Allah
And if that still does not convert you it's because Allah hates you and doesn't want you to see the truth and this was all a big waste of time

[Anonymous No.22933013]

>>22922980
The Rope by Plautus, The Government Inspector by Gogol, The Alchemist by Jonson and the Japanese Ghost/Folk Stories of Hearn.

[Anonymous No.22933282]

>>22931983
Buddhism is gay.

[Anonymous No.22933538]

I never expect anything good when I see these kinds of list online, but this one actually has some genuinely great and interesting inclusions that's usually not featured in lists made by other books and literature communities.
>Rabelais
>Jünger
>Rulfo
I'm so fucking happy to FINALLY see a community's list that put Storm of Steel over mid shit like that Remarque's one.
Ofc there are flaws i.e. too many Pynchon, too many McCarthy, still lacks many of the greats, things being higher or lower than they should be. But it doesn't really matter. I'm okay with this one.

[Anonymous No.22933548]

>>22933538
>I'm so fucking happy to FINALLY see a community's list that put Storm of Steel
How are are you? It has been a staple of the list for years. Remarque has never even scraped the bottom of it conversely

[Anonymous No.22933552]

>>22922948
>2023 /lit/
>no decline of the west
It was talked about more than Faust. Why isn't it there?

[Anonymous No.22933556]

>>22926528
10 dollarydoos this is a literal QoS tranny that likes new vegas.
>>22922980
Same as you.

[Anonymous No.22933582]

>>22933552
Too hard and dry of a read. It is discussed because muh West has le fallen but actually engaging with the actual text is a whole other thing

[Anonymous No.22933589]

>>22922980
Is the Stephen Mitchell translation of Tao Te Ching any good?
I don’t want some hippie nonsense if I’m going to bother reading it.

[Anonymous No.22933595]

>>22922948
Great job by the dude who compiled it but I hate these retarded charts with everything thrown together into one big pile. We need to do a proper top 100 novels at some point.

[Anonymous No.22933599]

>>22933548
this is my first time checking up on a /lit/ chart

[Anonymous No.22933643]

>>22933595
There have been couple in previous year because autists were unhappy with non-fiction entries and are more interested in recommendations rather than curious about /lit/ taste
These surveys had even less participants however

[Anonymous No.22933662]

>>22930837
grow up

[Anonymous No.22933815]

>>22933595
This. We need to sit down and create a definitive list of the top 100 books rather than just people throwing whatever book they've enjoyed into a pile every year.

[Anonymous No.22933872]

>>22933815
Try again.

[Anonymous No.22933998]

>>22933538
Lurk more, post less, retard.

[Anonymous No.22934019]

>>22922948
that is a well done chart

[Anonymous No.22934023]

>>22922948
who the fuck is juan rulfo
never seen that dude mentioned here

[Anonymous No.22934027]

>>22922951
here ya go
>>22933997

[Anonymous No.22934104]

>>22934023
Beats me. Appeared on the chart a couple of years ago when multiple votes for the same book were allowed and has been part of it ever since
I don't get the love, I personally found it aggressively mediocre, but then again I always thought the same of Bolano and he's been on the chart since 2011

[Anonymous No.22934111]

>>22934023
>>22934104
You just don't get South American literature.

[Anonymous No.22934113]

>>22934111
Latin*

[Anonymous No.22934118]

>>22934113
>Latin*

[Anonymous No.22934149]

>>22926652
Communists must be cleansed from literature, I am not even racist

[Anonymous No.22934366]

>>22934111
But I like Donoso, Lima, Borges, and tolerate Marquez
Can't it just be possible that perhaps rulfo is just mid shit overrated by whoever autist keeps pushing him on the chart?

[Anonymous No.22934367]

>>22922951
Because this isn’t /his/ or /sci/ dumb dumb.

[Anonymous No.22934471]

>>22922948
I've read 23 of the 100.
#1 is correct. 2 through 10 are mostly overrated, imho.
not horrible overall.

[Anonymous No.22934475]

>>22922948
Would you recommend these in order to a newb?
If not, what are your top 5 recommendations?

[Anonymous No.22934486]

>>22934475
>to a newb
No
>what are your top 5 recommendations?
There is a starter pack out there somewhere, part of which is featured on the chart. Check the sticky

[Anonymous No.22934487]

>>22923118
and?

[Anonymous No.22934494]

>>22934475
Some of them yes. Not all of them.

Start with Catcher in the Rye.

[Anonymous No.22934498]

>>22923765
Nabokov would agree with you.

[Anonymous No.22934507]

>>22924189
Grapes of Wrath >> East of Eden
Of Mice and Men >> Grapes of Wrath


that said, ain't nobody writes scenery like Steinbeck.

[Anonymous No.22934527]

>>22924811
nigger wrote like 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 lines of text. Which should take precedent?

[Anonymous No.22934533]

>>22924878
Dune is a fantastic book and introduces a level of world building second only to Tolkien. The political concepts and multi-generational ideologies are fantastic.
The book is full of plot holes and every character is a jew, but it's still easily top 100 imho.

[Anonymous No.22934540]

>>22924900
checked.
literal LOL.

[Anonymous No.22934542]

>>22934471
Npc

[Anonymous No.22934550]

>>22924893
>What are its strenghts?
No women. It's amazing how well multiple ethnicities get along in their absence.

[Anonymous No.22934557]

>>22924900
>>22924922
>>22925199
>>22927177
checked.
Moby Dick is the GOAT.

[Anonymous No.22934562]

>>22925525
>>22925549
>>22925680
name an objectively better work of English literature.

[Anonymous No.22934574]

>>22925679
>Stoner and Lolita are short
so is your dick

[Anonymous No.22934582]

>>22934118
Latinx, sorry.

[Anonymous No.22934586]

>>22926838
Ulysses and Infinite Jest

[Anonymous No.22934666]

>>22934562
Ulysses

[Anonymous No.22935894]

>>22928481
There are Stoner, Lolita, or Moby-Dick threads up almost every day, anon.

[Anonymous No.22936023]

>>22923441
cope

[Anonymous No.22936182]

>>22922948
Only three retarded meme books, despite relentless retard spamming:
>Mein Kampf
>Industrial Society and its Future
>The World as Will and Representation
And all in the 90s. A victory of culture.

[Anonymous No.22936201]

>>22936182
Only a retard would call Schopenhauer a meme.

[Anonymous No.22936211]

>>22936201
Adolescent pessimism is for retards. Read pic and grow up.

[Anonymous No.22936322]

>>22923552
> There is no such thing as nonfiction.

You're making me cry with this take knock it off

[Anonymous No.22936361]

>>22922948
>No Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Trash

[Anonymous No.22936366]

>>22922951
Because we don't want to read your same HBD shit you post over and over again Hanania. Go back to dropping cats off of rooftops and sucking off jews.

[Anonymous No.22936378]

>>22923765
Based anglophile making all the brown pseud basedcialists seethe. Just remember Pablo, no one gives a shit about that lit PhD you spent 10 years getting, you 105 IQ wetback.

[Anonymous No.22936401]

>>22922980
The Temptation of Saint Anthony
>>22933589
It's bad. Translated by some Jew who went to Yale and "de-educated" himself through Zen.

[Anonymous No.22936587]

>>22934471
I disagree
The only ones I would call over rated would be Stoner and Lolita
Stoner in particular, is in a ridiculous position. Placing it above the complete works of Shakespeare, Homer's Illiad, and Ulysses, is just a bit silly.
I didn't enjoy Blood Meridian that much, but it certainly deserves it's position of reverence. The Holy Bible is The Holy Bible. Can't really overrate that one. Don Quixote needs not readon or explanation.
Dostoyevsky can be a bit plain but he really does spin strong narratives

[Anonymous No.22936718]

>>22925635
Frankenstein, Elementary Particles. Those are both sub 200 pages.

[Anonymous No.22936745]

>>22922948
Most pseudo-intellectual shit of all time lmao there's no shot you faggots are sat around reading Faust and the fucking Illiad. This is like pretentious /mu/tards all clambering over each other to say Neutral Milk Hotel is their favorite artist. It's the exact list an edgy 16 year old would make when he wants to pretend to be smart.
Post the actual slop you enjoyed last year or you're a coward.

[Anonymous No.22936749]

>>22922948
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.

[Anonymous No.22936751]

>>22923136
based
>>22923216
Dosto is essentially sadomasochistic, he loves dwelling on characters who revel in how depraved they are, but who also prostrate themselves in the just punishment or humiliation of their depravity. Again, sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes imply the exact situation he adored, all the violence and sexual intrigue he desired so much, but with the approval of his super ego since they ritualistically degrade themselves in a kind of spiritual fetishistic pleasure in confessing, being punished, and then being "redeemed". It's lurid and partakes of a sick kind of gratification in self flagellation.

[Anonymous No.22936757]

>>22924893
During a fun ocean adventure the author drops literal catalogues of various whales here and there

[Anonymous No.22936759]

>>22925833
It's an unfinished work

[Anonymous No.22936765]

>>22926838
The Brothers Karamazov and Crime and Punishment are both atrociously bad and long to boot.

[Anonymous No.22936766]

>>22928675
>Christianity is obviously true
Which Christianity?

[Anonymous No.22936924]

>>22936751
Dostoevsky spent 10 years in Siberian prison so I imagine he understands the minds and characters of criminals much better than the average person. That's why he portrays them sympathetically because its very easy for a decent person to one day end up becoming a criminal. Also, Svidrigailov never had any redemption in Crime and Punishment. He has tackled both sides of criminals where there are some decent people who made mistakes but there are also some irredeemable psychopaths.

[Anonymous No.22936972]

>>22922948
Very good list. Going to read the few I haven’t yet.
I wonder if making a zip of all the epubs would help anons with reading then, or is that still falling into choice paralysis?

[Anonymous No.22936981]

>>22936587
>The Holy Bible is The Holy Bible. Can't really overrate that one.
It's literally been overrated since its inception.

[Anonymous No.22937016]

did josie rig this one too?

[Anonymous No.22937033]

>>22936211
Trying to dismiss the entire philosophy of a guy that influenced not only every single philosopher after him but many influential writers, musicians and other artists by saying "Adolescent pessimism is for retards" is quite an adolescent behavior.

[Anonymous No.22937045]

>>22936751
as I stated above >>22923216
might as well kys

[Anonymous No.22937052]

>>22936751
>partakes of a sick kind of gratification in self flagellation.
mortification of the flesh is based

[Anonymous No.22937210]

>>22936981
It's good poetry
The Book of Judges and Saul 2 are some good shit in that regard

[Anonymous No.22937283]

>>22923765
Borges would agree with you. There's a famous interview where he opines on the flexibility of feeling in the english language stemming from its lexical size and diversity of origin (mostly duplicates of French and Anglo-Saxon origin respectively, eg "graveyard" vs. "cemetery," "dead" vs. "deceased," etc.). Says its a "finer" language than Spanish.

[Anonymous No.22937292]

>>22925946
Different poster, but my guess would be Constance Garnett who was the standard for most of the works' existence in the English language.

[Anonymous No.22937340]

>>22923765
>it is so because X and Y said so

[Anonymous No.22937373]

>>22937033
>many influential writers, musicians and other artists
Yeah, you are a teenager

[Anonymous No.22937555]

What the fuck?
Apart from the Bible and a couple of others none if these books are discussed here. Ever.
Load of shit

[Anonymous No.22937595]

>>22937555
How many times are you going to make this post?

[Anonymous No.22937967]

>>22922948
Blood Meridian sucks

[Anonymous No.22938249]

Why is their no Norse Sagas mentioned yet the poo in the loo Bhagada Gita is, and the basedcialist Ring of the Nibelung?
Njall's Saga and Volsunga Saga are well worth a read.

[Anonymous No.22938277]

>>22937052
Commit the ultimate mortification then

[Anonymous No.22938436]

>>22923441