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"Free political action from all unitary and totalizing paranoia. Develop action, thought, and desires by proliferation, juxtaposition, and disjunction, and not by subdivision and pyramidal hierarchization. Withdraw allegiance from the old categories of the Negative (law limit, castration, lack, lacuna), which Western thought has so long held sacred as a form of power and an access to reality. Prefer what is positive and multiple: difference over uniformity, flows over unities, mobile arrangements over systems. Believe that what is productive is not sedentary but nomadic. Do not think that one has to be sad in order to be militant, even though the thing one is fighting is abominable. It is the connection of desire to reality (and not its retreat into the forms of representation) that possess revolutionary force. Do not use thought to ground a political practice in Truth; nor political action to discredit, as mere speculation, a line of thought. Use political practice as an intensifier of thought, and analysis as a multiplier of the forms and domains for the intervention of political action. Do not demand of politics that it restore the 'rights' of the individual, as philosophy had defined them. The individual is the product of power. What is needed is to 'de-individualize' by means of multiplication and displacement, diverse combinations. The group must not be the organic bond uniting hierarchized individuals, but a constant generator of deindividualization. Do not become enamoured of power."

What does /lit/ think of Foucault?

>> No.2290203

my favorite dude of the 20th century

>> No.2290206

Foucault was a great thinker and a funny speaker. I think Zizek is as forceful a personality as Foucault was.

>> No.2290210

Why did he endorse pseudo-intellectual rubbish? He was a talented writer.

>> No.2290216

history of sexuality rules
discipline and punish rules
history of madness rules
abnormal rules
birth of the clinic is fucking painful but i'll get through it one of these days

>> No.2290219

>>2290210
What pseudo-intellectual rubbish did he endorse?

>> No.2290224

>>2290219
thats that cheesy republican kid, disregard him, he sucked his priests cock

>> No.2290229

>>2290219

Lacan, deleuze and guattari, a few others...but not Derrida. He trashed Derrida.

>> No.2290245

>Do not demand of politics that it restore the 'rights' of the individual, as philosophy had defined them. The individual is the product of power. What is needed is to 'de-individualize'

Never read that before, but I am suddenly not a fan.

>> No.2290265

>>2290245
2radical4u

>> No.2290267

>>2290245

don't fret citizen dr. congressman will protect our individuality

>> No.2290268

I like how he actually gave people AIDS when he was mad that he got AIDS.

Talk about power!

>> No.2290295

>>2290268
Yeah, I don't understand how people just deny this. Why do they expect philosophers/writers to necessarily be good people?

But in this case I think it means we ought to disregard his entire work.

>> No.2290302

He looks like a nigger

>> No.2290325

>>2290245
He is right though, in our current system we kid ourselves into thinking we have rights. These rights are just as fabricated as the institutions we create to protect them. The only true way to exert these rights is to obtain a sense of power among society and exert that power over others. That, or understand that rights are only a result of our agreement that they exist and not some cosmic law.

>> No.2290326

>>2290245

you should see his debate with Chomsky. he basically says that we can't challenge our societies because we are immersed in them and typical french "we can't do this...we can't do that" nonsense. . Chomsky FTW>

>> No.2290330

>>2290326
> Foucault: POWER POWER POWER
> Chomsky: Alright, how about we try to do something about it
> Foucault: NON! POWER POWER POWER

Fucking aids spreader.

>> No.2290331

>>2290326
I love Chomsky as much as the next guy but he does raise a decent point, we think that can challenge the system... by using the system.

>> No.2290338

>>2290331
The way to challenge discursive power is to become aware of how power operates and conceals its origins. In essence, read Foucault's books to challenge power.

>> No.2290340

>>2290338
> you can't challenge power except by...buying my books

xD

Give me more AIDS, please.

>> No.2290342

>>2290331

Democracy is all about "using the system" to challenge the system. We've done this in the past (Civil Rights, Voter Rights, etc).

>> No.2290346

>>2290340
or pirating them...
Or just learning about how power works.
>>2290340
calm down you.

>> No.2290347

> have a ton of gay s&m sex
> always be the dominatrix
> knowingly spread AIDS through unprotected sex
> WE CAN'T FIGHT THE POWER

Derrida > Foucunt

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2290383

>>2290347

>Derrida > Foucunt

Get out.

>> No.2290393

>>2290325
It's not the rights thing that concerns me, it's the "de-individualize" thing.

That and "do not become enamoured of power". No fun allowed in Foucaultopia, apparently.

>> No.2290408

>>2290393

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MtU1jN64eU

>> No.2290419

Most of your quote seems frivolous or irrelevant. I don't particularly see the value of the emphasis on diversity either

>> No.2290425

I'm not very familiar with him, but I did really like his preface to Anti-Oedipus, presenting it as an ethical primer, as an instruction on "how to live an antifascist life."

I'm not familiar with him, despite that and the appeal of a few ideas of his I've overheard, because I've deliberately avoided him: I'm wary of a guy whose philosophy ended in praising Khomeini, in the same way as I'm wary of Heidegger.

And now I read he was deliberately giving people HIV?

>> No.2290465

>>2290425
Yep. He got really pissed when he found out he had AIDS and was determined to take as many with him as possible.

So he had a bunch of gay s&m sex in those gay s&m dungeons where he got AIDS in the first place.

>> No.2290496

>>2290465
Do you have a link? I did some quick Googling and what I found dismissed the claim as an urban legend or a factually suspect assertion by a biographer.

But then, people would claim that even if it was true. I'd like to see the evidence.

>> No.2290510

devastatingly descriptive
disastrously prescriptive


still my fav crazy mid 20th century theorist