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/lit/ Top 100 of 2023 Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:39:30 2023 No.22882711 [Reply] [Original]

POLL: https://forms.gle/x44jyD3qXPhSiDVQ

Any ties from here on out will be sorted alphabetically.
Here's the unedited sheet. I removed duplicate novels from the same submissions and reformatted submissions in a local excel file. I'll post that with the final chart.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T5pcH-T2YMhRLQwpCUgmDMLaJD_dQe1pBhSz2ou5_e0/edit?usp=sharing
Sorry about the delay!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:40:17 2023 No.22882714 >>22882711 URL Didn't seem to work. Here's an alternate link. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSegjBOoDelZtlYlmJIccppSe1eONGWAQAvqrqFtdHVkMRpOYg/viewform

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:51:12 2023 No.22882742 WAGNER WAGNER WAGNER WAGNER WAGNER WAGNER Vote Wagner's Ring.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:51:47 2023 No.22882745 >>22882742 WAGNER SWEEEEEEEEP

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:53:29 2023 No.22882751 >>22882742 I'm not doing that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:56:29 2023 No.22882762 >>22882742 Why would anyone vote for a musician on a literature chart?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 02:58:18 2023 No.22882770 >>22882762 Oh I'm sorry I didn't know the literary works of Aeschylus and Homer are forbidden because music accompanied them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:02:43 2023 No.22882785 >>22882711 From a quick glance, it looks like the 2023 list is similar to last years...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:10:41 2023 No.22882802 >>22882770 Because the music is not essential to them? unlike Wagner's works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:11:42 2023 No.22882806 >>22882785 No Call of the Crocodile this year. We're maturing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:14:55 2023 No.22882816 >>22882785 I see 50% more votes than last year. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:15:23 2023 No.22882819 >>22882802 Music was essential to Greek tragedy as an artwork. It was a performing art. This is not even contentious. And in the same way the texts of both Wagner and Greek tragedy can be appreciated on their own.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:20:42 2023 No.22882840 Céline got a good year it seems

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:21:53 2023 No.22882844

>>22882816
It was essential for them. Not for us. That's why their music has not survived while the written text has.
If Wagner's librettos have literary value beyond their musical one then the former will out last later. So far it doesn't seem to be the case.
I'm not saying that they can't be anjoyed as a whole. I'm saying that it can't not be enyojed separately from its musical dimension.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:22:55 2023 No.22882848 >>22882844 Meant for: >>22882819

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:31:58 2023 No.22882881 Lol at the wagnerfag trying to say the Greek playwrights were musicians.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:49:50 2023 No.22882950 >>22882881 You are brown.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:54:42 2023 No.22882975 >>22882881 It‘s literally true you retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 03:56:32 2023 No.22882983 File: 71 KB, 853x480, 1694817880937019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22882950 >>22882975 g*rmoid wannabe cope

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:02:49 2023 No.22883012

>>22882844
>If Wagner's librettos have literary value beyond their musical one then the former will out last later.
That's utterly retarded. You're assuming the music and words can't be equally worth preserving. Or that the music for Greek tragedy wasn't lost because of many different reasons like its oral basis, primitive notation and the chaos of the ancient world. And if the music was of an inferior value in Greek tragedy that in no way means it wasn't still worth preserving, or limits the quality of music accompanying literature into Christian Europe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:03:08 2023 No.22883015 >>22882983 Kikes projecting their governance rackets as sacred and getting assblasted over the German tendency to rightfully break it are so weird.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:15:41 2023 No.22883059 >>22882844 >I'm saying that it can't not be enyojed separately from its musical dimension. Which the entire history of his literary appreciation and influence contradicts.... This is just YOUR problem anon. Stop trying to force it onto others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:15:51 2023 No.22883061 >>22883015 >the German tendency to rightfully break it kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:18:09 2023 No.22883072 >>22882711 >wagner faggot derailing another thread Par the course. He probably only likes him for his proto Nazi aesthetic anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:20:13 2023 No.22883078 >>22883072 That's such a reddit thing to say.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:27:46 2023 No.22883103

>>22883012
And yet it didn't. Surely series of pleasant sounds would be more likely to be preserved than symbols written in a foreign language.
Except that it didn't happen.That's why a thousand years into the future when Wagner's music has been all but forgotten people will look at his librettos and see nothing but the accidental symbols that accompanied his music instead of the other way around.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:32:36 2023 No.22883117 >>22883103 >thinks music is just a series of pleasant sounds >thinks classical music will be forgotten in a thousand years You're beyond retarded. It's not worth spoonfeeding you anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:54:01 2023 No.22883194 >>22882711 I would rather it be formatted where we pick our top 5 from the shortlisted options. Hated having to choose between Catch 22 and Dead Souls.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:54:48 2023 No.22883200

>>22883059
The term "influence" is almost meaningless, specially in the arts. If you chose to use it is because a) you don't ignorant of it or b) you are being mischievous.
I'm sure you have many examples where one artist influenced another in a different field and if not you are at least preparing some sort of reply but as i said previously: Wagner is not studied in Literature departments for a very obvious reason. For the same reason he's studied in Musicology departments. As you and your apreciation (if i'm correct in believing you didn't just joined the conversation and are looking at things to nitpick) of Wager will probably confirm is that his contributions to Music have been much greater than his contributions to the world of Literature (if he has any at all).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:55:59 2023 No.22883203 Was I supposed to log in to vote tie breaker? Because I voted tie breakers without logging in and want to make sure my vote went through.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 04:56:49 2023 No.22883211 >>22883117 >thinks music is just a series of pleasant sounds Either you lack basic reading comprehension or you instantly forget everything you write after writing it. I don't know which one is worse.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:01:05 2023 No.22883226

>>22883200
>I'm sure you have many examples where one artist influenced another in a different field and if not you are at least preparing some sort of reply but as i said previously: Wagner is not studied in Literature departments for a very obvious reason.
Reading comprehension levels are awful. People are telling you that Wagner had influence on writers as a writer. No one is claiming his importance for literature as a musician. And, once again (this was mentioned in the previous thread but got no response), Wagner is studied in many literature departments.

I don't know what you're trying to get out of this by consistently ignoring everything that contradicts what you say.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:06:03 2023 No.22883240 All this arguing and Wagner isn’t going to even make the list. It’s just one sperg with no life. Ignore him

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:14:40 2023 No.22883261 >>22882711 Too many things I want to vote for in the three vote section...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:16:12 2023 No.22883267 >>22882711 >Dynamic link not found

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:19:18 2023 No.22883281 >>22883226 I expect nothing less from a child that tries his hardest to ignore the difference between anciant plays and modern operas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 05:37:38 2023 No.22883353 >>22882711 Pretty poor showing and selections this year. Too bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:42:32 2023 No.22883526 >>22883267 Check the second post in the thread. Sent another URL that should work.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 06:45:49 2023 No.22883535

>>22883281
There's a difference between someone having a stupid opinion and someone refusing to acknowledge an opinion because it proves them wrong. It doesn't matter what you think of the prior, it is no where near as childish as the latter. What you have done through all these threads is mind numbingly repeat the same dumb talking points and ignore the most easily provable facts. And here, finally, you resort to an awful strawman. Nowhere did I deny the difference between opera and Greek Tragedy. It's a very particular claim, not general at all, to claim Wagner, or Strauss, or Berg, set to music texts of high literary quality, as distinct from the majority of opera composers.

This is the level of insanity that Wagner-haters are driven to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:40:04 2023 No.22883669 >>22882711 Hey OP, Iliad and Ulysses are equal at 20 votes. Some faggot anon put in his vote as 'Ilias' instead of Iliad. Put it in the tie breaker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:42:46 2023 No.22883676 The top 10 this year: - 1) Moby Dick 2) Brothers Karamazov 3) Holy Bible 4) Don Quixote 5) Blood meridian/Stoner 7) Lolita/Shakespeare's plays 9) Ulysses/Iliad

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 07:45:05 2023 No.22883680 File: 4 KB, 409x65, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22883669 I believe I caught that. I have the Iliad at 21 votes. I might've miscounted and added an additional vote. I'll double check once my girlfriend heads to bed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:17:32 2023 No.22883752 >>22882762 Shut the fuck up, you obtuse faggot. You've been absolutely BTFO'd by knowledgeable anons in the previous two or three threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:21:27 2023 No.22883766 >>22883240 He pretty comfortably made the list. Some of us have seen the light.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 08:23:12 2023 No.22883772 >>22883072 The only faggot derailing this thread is the retard who won't be convinced Wagner's Ring libretto has literary value, which any serious scholar will tell you it has.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:06:54 2023 No.22883941
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What the fuck is it with people absolutely adoring and hating Wagner? I like him myself, but it's so strange how contentious his reputation is even so many years after his death. You don't see people sperging out like this over Shakespeare or Goethe or any other big figure in literature/drama.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:15:57 2023 No.22883957 >>22883941 Wagner is not on that level

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 10:51:43 2023 No.22884055

>>22883941
Because he's a controversial cult figure. Shakespeare and Goethe aren't controversial, but Wagner has always been. Some people attract cultists more than others, and Wagner is definitely up there. I love Wagner, but I don't worship him. The cult of Wagner is strong and annoying, and people sometimes react to the cult more than they do the person that's worshipped. Like the anon ITT refusing to accept Wagner's poetic librettos may have literary value and could be read without the music. I think he's reacting more to the Wagnerfags than he is to the facts. The Wagnerfags get offended and attack him, and then he becomes defensive and keeps doubling down. It's like one big negative circlejerk.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 13:06:23 2023 No.22884294

>>22883941
Same reason we have to deal with mein kampf making the list every year
I don't mind it as it adds flavor, but I can't in good faith pretend his work as a political theorist has any value and he is only discussed due to that whole holocausr debacle, much like I am painfully aware Warner is only relevant to the board this year due to his antisemitic writings rather than his merits as a writer

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 15:57:00 2023 No.22884738 Thanks OP

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:25:34 2023 No.22884846 >>22884055 You used to have to memorize Wagner's libretto to be considered educated in Germany. He's absolutely Germany's Shakespeare. Goethe and Schiller have always been for pseuds. Also, you're Jewish.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 16:36:27 2023 No.22884877 >>22884846 Uncalled for. You do realize I'm only against cultish behavior, but otherwise love Wagner? You can read, right?

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:18:24 2023 No.22885654

>>22884055
>The Wagnerfags get offended and attack him, and then he becomes defensive and keeps doubling down.
I just don't get this negative framing of Wagnerism. All he did was respond to someone obviously wrong. That would be the norm for any other writer who was seriously misjudged in value. If that's 'cultism' then it's a necessary one since there will always be people irrationally seething at people enjoying Wagner.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:28:22 2023 No.22885691 curious as to what anon posted Stella Maris as nr 1, because most people I think would put it last in a ranking of McCarthy's novels

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:38:56 2023 No.22885738 >>22885654 That's not what I mean by cultism. I mention two unrelated problems.

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 20:55:10 2023 No.22885793
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>>22883941
>Wagner, says Dieter Borchmeyer boldly, is ‘the most controversial artist in the entire history of culture,’ one whose works and personality provoke, even a century later, disagreements of a depth that still militate against his works ever becoming classics. One never speaks of ‘Shakespeareans’ or ‘Mozartians’ the way one speaks of Wagnerians, and 'although there are no anti-Shakespearians or anti-Mozartians, there is a party of anti-Wagnerians that is even more militant than in Wagner's day.' Faced with Wagner, he says, even otherwise serious scholars ‘take leave of their senses … and start to rant.’

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 29 22:28:34 2023 No.22886103 >>22882711 The Quran Nahj Al-Balagha Al-Sahiffa Al-Sajjadiyya The Mu'allaqat Kafka's The Metamorphosis

Anonymous Fri Dec 29 23:49:45 2023 No.22886452
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I've been loving the arguments over Wagner rather than the usual few shitpost submissions people rally behind.
Thanks for the handful of entertaining threads Wagner-fag. Cheers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:27:10 2023 No.22886589 File: 15 KB, 640x468, tolstoy23.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tolstoybros... get your votes in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 00:27:53 2023 No.22886593 >>22886589 I voted for Dostoevsky. Nothing personal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 01:05:50 2023 No.22886747 >>22886593 C and P is such a fucking draaaaaag like nigga do something besides being a whiny lil bitch lmao if u voted Dostohomo, fuck u lil nigga Captcha: JN4 STD

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 02:20:11 2023 No.22887008 >>22886747 Anna Karenina is an even more lengthy drag

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 04:52:32 2023 No.22887364 >>22883676 How refreshing, I’m glad we’re all breaking out of the echo chamber.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:07:05 2023 No.22887521 File: 1.23 MB, 1820x4348, 1559245672554.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Almost 10 years ago. /lit/ has changed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:24:25 2023 No.22887546 >>22887521 And not for the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 06:44:44 2023 No.22887591 yeah it was a better time when camus went number too

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 08:48:52 2023 No.22887788 >>22887521 >The Stranger >#2 lol >>22887546 Harry Potter series was #54 ten years ago. That's fucking embarrassing for a serious literature board. This year, it got ZERO votes. I'd say it changed for the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 15:32:10 2023 No.22888561 bump

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 16:38:31 2023 No.22888701 What the fuck is BAP's book doing there?? I thought self published retarded meme books werent allowed. Fix this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 17:59:47 2023 No.22888991 >>22884294 >holocausr debacle You know the holohoax didn't happen, right, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:43:21 2023 No.22889153 >>22888991 Then what the fuck do I have left to like the nazis for? The aesthetic?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:47:12 2023 No.22889169 >>22888701 Yeah, should delete crap like Gardner, BAP, and Mein Kampf. Meme books shouldn't be allowed, only serious literature. Fix this shit, OP. >>22882711

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:49:36 2023 No.22889180 >>22889169 eh, it's an accurate representation of what people here like personally i hate that shit but it's dishonest to post a top 100 without them if you're aiming to capture this board's preferences

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 18:54:46 2023 No.22889196 >>22889180 No anon you don't understand, if we don't get rid of the entries that add flavor to an otherwise dry and boring scholarly list the faggots at r/truelit will laugh at us and make me feel insecure for browsing this site

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:14:23 2023 No.22889268 >>22889180 Mein Kampf is an actual historical text. BAP Is just some shitty twitter meme. And people (OP?) in past threads were saying meme shit like Gardner was not allowed

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:18:42 2023 No.22889290 >>22889169 wrong bitch

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 19:33:18 2023 No.22889356 >>22889169 we should make a top 100 chart with only meme books

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:02:32 2023 No.22889472 >>22889180 >eh, it's an accurate representation of what people here like But it's not, and it's not serious literature. >>22889196 >meme books >flavor lolno >>22889356 Better that than to include meme books into the real chart.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 20:58:52 2023 No.22889687 >>22889169 I assumed meme books would be filtered out like usual. >>22882711

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 21:03:36 2023 No.22889703

>>22889472
>But it's not, and it's not serious literature.
those are two different things
i agree it's not serious literature (whatever that means) but who said this chart was just about serious literature?
as for if people actually like it, are you straight up denying that people here like main kampf and BAP? i wish that was the case but the state of the board clearly indicates otherwise

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:04:53 2023 No.22889970

>>22889703
>whatever that means
You know what it means.
>who said this chart was just about serious literature?
Well, if you're a literature board, it's expected you discuss good literature. Of what use would reading and discussing bad literature be? It's counterproductive and makes no sense.
>are you straight up denying that people here like main kampf and BAP?
Those people's opinions shouldn't count, and they're not human in my eyes because they lack a consciousness, therefore yes, I'm denying that people like them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:07:51 2023 No.22889989 >>22889687 Usually two are made. One with all the votes and a filtered one. I'll most likely make both.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:27:38 2023 No.22890060 >>22889989 will you make a 101-200 chart as well?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:29:32 2023 No.22890070 >>22889989 >Usually two are made Not really. It happened once because one autist got mad at MK taking the top post so he remade the whole chart

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:33:37 2023 No.22890088 >>22890070 Usually only one is made because the memes get filtered out. But that time the clowns making the list did not filter them out and left them on the list so people had to retroactively make a real list.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:36:36 2023 No.22890103 >>22890060 I'll try to. Most likely I'll post it later down the line. >>22890070 LOL. I'll make one with and without meme submissions. Might as well keep democracy pure even if the voters are retarded,

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:38:28 2023 No.22890115 >all Shakespeare plays counted as one >not even first place /lit/ bros, I thought we were cultured...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 22:46:50 2023 No.22890164 >>22890115 Have you seen the board? What year do you think it is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:54:33 2023 No.22890438 >>22887364 Yeah, it's unbelievable that the world's best classics consistently reach the top. We need more modern slop in it to freshen it up (for some reason).

Anonymous Sat Dec 30 23:59:32 2023 No.22890456

>>22890438
I don’t get how people expect the chart to be different. Most readers are here because they are into serious literature. They are also most likely in their 20’s so they are limited on the amount of books they’ve read. Most serious readers want to read the acclaimed books early on. Those books are also acclaimed for a reason. Also keep in mind there is little point in voting for books that have a slim chance of making the list. Plenty of anons here like books outside of the usual suspects. A consensus list will always be the lowest common denominator though and the books with the farthest reach

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:04:49 2023 No.22890481 >>22890456 Yeah, I agree with you. My response towards the other anon was sarcastic. Seems retarded to me to assume the chart would change drastically. If anything, it's pretty good to track what books were exceptionally trending for any given year.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:20:40 2023 No.22890548 >>22890456 >Plenty of anons here like books outside of the usual suspects tfw only one nomination for The True History of the Conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 00:24:03 2023 No.22890569

>>22890548
I’ve learned that it is pointless voting for books where you’ll likely be the only vote. I usually only vote one book like that as a homage but otherwise it’s better to pad votes or books that have somewhat of a chance. I’ve always thought “what are your 10 favorite books” threads are better than this end of year voting. You get more diversity and refined taste

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 01:41:00 2023 No.22890914 >>22883676 Bible bros, how are we not #1?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:21:54 2023 No.22891642 >>22883676 Why is Stoner so high? It was good, but not nearly that good. I've never understood why anons found it so depressing either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:38:20 2023 No.22891708 >>22891642 I guess your taste doesn’t match everyone else’s. Did you think the list would be composed of your favorite books?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 05:51:12 2023 No.22891758 >>22891708 That doesn't answer my question you dumb fucking monkey nigger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:02:04 2023 No.22892622 >>22889989 Good.

Anonymous Sun Dec 31 11:56:57 2023 No.22892720

>>22890569
Perhaps a system could be implemented that weights each entry according to their placement when voted in. Like the book you list first gets five points and so on. Granted, this will assure that mein kampf and qu'ran will be grossly overvalued, but it may be worth it to shake up the list a bit and allow for new entries

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:06:21 2023 No.22892744 Would using these votes (since they list authors with each book) be able to make a ranked list of /lit/ top writers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:11:54 2023 No.22892752 >>22882711 how the fuck do I add Ulysses to this? Where's Joyce?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 12:38:58 2023 No.22892798 >>22892720 We've already tried that, and as you pointed out, MK was first that year

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:03:53 2023 No.22893292 >>22892798 Not really. Iirc that year you could submit the same book for every entry, so you coild vote the same book up to ten times. Also there was no requirement to sign in, so it was heavily spammed

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:34:20 2023 No.22893368 >>22892752 Voting is over, dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 16:45:40 2023 No.22893396 Godammit how the fuck did i miss this? All the time i wasted on shitty threads and i miss the most important thread of the year. Serves me right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 19:05:55 2023 No.22893977 >>22887521 >>22887788 >>22887546 We have only improved over time, let's hope for this year

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:17:07 2023 No.22894288 File: 58 KB, 500x608, morrissey pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HEADS UP FROM OP: I doubt I'll be able to get the chart in January 1st. Expect it a few days after.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:28:40 2023 No.22894327 >>22894288 It's ok OP take your time, thanks again for doing this. Happy new year

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 20:50:49 2023 No.22894385 >>22894288 It's fine fren

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 22:42:28 2023 No.22894731 >>22894288 I'm gonna turn your skull into dirt. Drop what you're doing and get it done

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 31 23:05:05 2023 No.22894807 Happy new year anons

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:20:50 2024 No.22895059 >>22894288 thanks for your efforts OP also checked >>22894807 happy new year fren

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 00:41:11 2024 No.22895132 File: 18 KB, 296x445, oj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] best true crime book of the century let alone year,

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 01:34:23 2024 No.22895332 >>22894288 No worries mate. Love your work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 02:51:56 2024 No.22895521 >>22894807 Happy new year anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 03:40:28 2024 No.22895647 >>22887521 holy reddit

Anonymous Mon Jan 1 09:51:27 2024 No.22896331
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>>22894288
It will definitely be a few days late. I was planning on finishing it tonight, however, a few too many shots and my girlfriend sleeping over are in the way of that.
Expect it January 3rd.
Happy new years. Cheers, lads!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:35:33 2024 No.22896386 >>22882711 Only 7 votes for The Metamorphosis? You guys are actually all braindead simpletons

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 10:40:06 2024 No.22896392 >>22896386 The Trial is way better dude

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 12:55:52 2024 No.22896567 >>22882711 What if all my favorite books are in the long lists at the bottom?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 16:50:32 2024 No.22897119 POST IT POOOOOOOOST EEEEEEEEEEEEEET

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:37:33 2024 No.22897252 >>22882711 Once the new chart is posted could we do one where you can only name books that you read in 2023? I'd be interested to see how the all-time list compares to what we've specifically read in the last year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 17:40:02 2024 No.22897259 >>22897252 Would re-reads count? Me going back to proust has taken up quote a bit of last year and I also read moby dick and ulysses again

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 18:50:53 2024 No.22897478 >>22897259 I'd say so, I think the purpose would be to act as a snapshot of what anons have been enjoying recently, regardless of if you've read it before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 1 23:30:02 2024 No.22898212 >>22882711 Only 300 votes ? Just how barren is this place ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 00:00:37 2024 No.22898304 >>22898212 There was no advertisement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 00:04:11 2024 No.22898312 >>22898304 I bought 2 billboards and 3 newspaper slots… Not sure what you wanted. There was a thread about it for almost 2 weeks Interesting to see this place has ~60 readers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:11:11 2024 No.22898478 >>22898312 >>22898304 Was it this bad always ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:12:39 2024 No.22898481 >>22894288 Please choose nice covers for the books and don't make it look like shit. Also a nice readable font. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:20:01 2024 No.22898500 Verdana font

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:57:01 2024 No.22898585 >>22896331 Looking forward to it anon

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 01:59:55 2024 No.22898591

>>22898312
>>22898478
Well it's about that many who
>saw the thread
>clicked on it
>actually voted (despite google sign in)
I'd guess this board overall has a couple hundred users (not sure how many lurkers) which is about what one would expect for a classic literature community on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 02:06:24 2024 No.22898602 >>22898591 How many migrants who settled here who don’t read?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 02:10:55 2024 No.22898611 >>22898602 No one here reads, anons just LARP

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:39:14 2024 No.22899302 >>22898312 Not blaming you, it was just a choice or an inability to advertise anymore than you did. It's not bad for there to only be 300 participants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 06:47:34 2024 No.22899335 >>22898312 needing a google sign in probably hurts it a little.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 11:44:27 2024 No.22899976 POST IT OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 12:56:51 2024 No.22900114 >>22899335 mostly just removes spam

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 16:50:48 2024 No.22900611 POST IT ALREADY

Anonymous Tue Jan 2 17:54:14 2024 No.22900842

>>22882711
>Google
Why not just use posts here to determine this? Alternatively, just use something less shitty. Google is noted to be terrible and there are plenty alternatives for community-based data gathering like this. Anyways, here's my list:
>Ulysses (James Joyce)
>A History of Central Banking (Stephen M. Goodson)
>Something Wicked This Way Comes (Ray Bradbury)
I wasn't going to includ Goodson's book, but it really underlines today's issues that the average person is going through in a way that Marx really doesn't have the tools for. I won't include my alternative and this is my only post in this thread.

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If this was actually a legit /lit/ list and not reddit then Call of the Crocodile would be number 1 followed by Infinite Jest for number 2. Those two books are the most talked about books here. See pic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:39:34 2024 No.22901227 >>22901212 Judging by the posts it’s been hijacked by normies. Enjoy your boring dry list of assigned high school level books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 19:48:23 2024 No.22901256 >>22901212 >>22901227 Shut up and fuck off Gardner

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 20:41:51 2024 No.22901479 >>22900842 using google is a great way to filter schizos, as your post proves

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:36:26 2024 No.22901648 >>22901227 Yeah I much prefer an illiterate schizo's ramblings than the classics

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:41:29 2024 No.22901667 >>22901648 Same. F Gardner is the Hemingway of /lit./ I already know what all the classics are. I read them when I was a teenager and all normalfags read them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:43:33 2024 No.22901671 >>22901256 >>22901648 It’s best to ignore trolls. They live off of you’s

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>>22901671
I suspect anti-Gardner posting is due to how politically incorrect F Gardner’s latest books were, namely Kabbalah of the Crocodile. Horror’s Call has always been an edgelord series but it has gone completely off the rails with the latest few installments. The seethe about it was unreal with Kabbalah of the Crocodile at least. It even leaked over to /pol/ for a period of time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:51:19 2024 No.22901706 File: 72 KB, 654x1000, Brothers Karamazov.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can we use the Katz translation for The Brothers Karamazov?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:51:54 2024 No.22901710 >>22901691 >I suspect anti-Gardner posting is due to how politically incorrect F Gardner’s latest books were Yeah, that'll be it, you fucking retard. How about being against shills who spam their shit books?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:52:55 2024 No.22901716 >>22901706 Go back to sleep, Michael

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:55:10 2024 No.22901726 >>22901710 F Gardner or at least Call of the Crocodile is ridiculously famous. Do you not remember the time Gardner’s series got to the front page of Reddit? /lit/ fucking exploded while that happened

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 21:57:18 2024 No.22901736 >>22901726 No, I had already quit /lit/ whenever that happened precisely because of retarded astroturfing campaigns like that. Self-serve ads were a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:05:10 2024 No.22901766 >>22901726 I don't give a shit about "internet breaking" nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:05:22 2024 No.22901767 >>22901736 It was the opposite of astroturfing. Reddit was seething at how popular Gardner was getting. It was extremely unreal. As of this place memed him into being an actual famous author.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:10:10 2024 No.22901787 >>22882711 Leak it deak. It's already the third.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:11:40 2024 No.22901793 Stop replying to him, retards

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 22:15:26 2024 No.22901803 >>22901793 This. If you can’t stop retards and spammers from posting you can at least not reply to them to throw gas on the fire. Do your part and don’t give them what they want

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 2 23:22:15 2024 No.22902023 >>22901803 This. If Call of the Crocodile and actual /lit/ books are not on the list then it’s illegitimate. I could care less about the non-/lit/ material.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 04:43:17 2024 No.22902913 >>22882711 When's the actual chart come out?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 06:53:41 2024 No.22903235 >>22902913 sent :^)

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:03:37 2024 No.22903254
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The choices are a bit weird no? Why am I having to choose between sometimes 3/4 books and like 20 in another? Also why are we counting some as collections like lumping all of Beckett's trilogy together and Shakesphere's works as if they're just one? Also I ctrl-f'd Ulysses and it wasn't there? Am I going schizo or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:13:41 2024 No.22903283 >>22903254 it’s just tiebreakers, newfriend

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 07:38:28 2024 No.22903327
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>>22889169
Mein kampf has historic value, /lit/ history. Banning it makes you seem like a bitter leftists who is going to sneak Capital on there at the last minute.

>>22898212
The votes were locked unless you gave them a Google account. All the lurkers and a lot of posters said no to that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 09:46:16 2024 No.22903579 POST IT OP

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 09:48:59 2024 No.22903586 >>22903327 removing le ebin trolling from the list does not make one a bitter leftist

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:02:47 2024 No.22903612 >>22903254 >>22903283 >newfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:06:12 2024 No.22903619 >>22903586 Correct. I'm not remotely a "leftist", but even if it's not trolling, and the people submitting it are serious about it (LOL), it should be removed. It has no literary value and it's not philosophy (unlike Das Kapital).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 10:18:37 2024 No.22903646 Kant is gonna win right bros?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 13:57:54 2024 No.22904119 So? when is it dropping

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 14:05:38 2024 No.22904136 It's over

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:33:51 2024 No.22904304 Is the OP still binge drinking?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 15:43:59 2024 No.22904333 >>22904304 He is binge cooming

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:17:08 2024 No.22904629 >>22904333 based

Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:23:18 2024 No.22904640

>>22903586
>>22903619
>t. bitter leftists

Mein kampf is as philosophically important and accurate as Capital. That is too say, not very much. Yet they are the books which most influenced the twentieth century. That's a reasonable justification for top book, even if as literature they are not good. Plato's Republic and (many books of) the Bible are also not great literature, but they would be reasonable choices. I mean Proust might not even make it in the top 100. People aren't judging on literary merit.

(Communist manifesto is probably the real influence. It's unlikely very many actually read that absolute bore that is Capital.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 17:25:28 2024 No.22904650 >>22904640 The voting is for favorites, not most influential

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:04:56 2024 No.22904767 >22904640 Nobody cares.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:13:06 2024 No.22904791 WHERE IS IT

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:19:20 2024 No.22904806 Infinite JestGODS, are we ready to win again?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 18:47:27 2024 No.22904881 >>22904640 It just says "top of all time" and is otherwise undefined. Who knows how anons are defining it, by influence is reasonable I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 20:32:42 2024 No.22905192 >>22904881 lurk more

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 20:42:20 2024 No.22905216 Is it over or are we back?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 20:43:14 2024 No.22905219 File: 323 KB, 1170x1450, 1697547889839203.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22905216 It's over.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 21:06:37 2024 No.22905269 Where? Process the data you coward.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 21:26:29 2024 No.22905334 >>22904640 >t. Midwit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 22:57:53 2024 No.22905644 >>22905192 I'm glad that's coming back in fashion. >>22905334 Ha, sure son, you got me. You both did. Good job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:04:49 2024 No.22905660 >>22904640 >Plato's Republic and (many books of) the Bible are also not great literature Imagine being this small minded in your understanding of what makes great literature.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:24:43 2024 No.22905719 >>22889169 This is 4chan, not Harvard; people want the schizo list, not Steven Pinker's. BAP is way too irrelevant to make the cut, but you can make a good case for including Mein Kampf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 3 23:29:37 2024 No.22905733 >>22905660 Imagine having a reading comprehension so poor, you can't understand a novel technical definition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 02:55:58 2024 No.22906337 It's over

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 05:20:40 2024 No.22906738 guess it's over

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 09:08:02 2024 No.22907208 >>22905719 >people want the schizo list Speak for yourself. >not Steven Pinker's Good thing we're not getting that either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 09:08:57 2024 No.22907210 OP said January 3. Which it will be ready when it's ready.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 09:10:01 2024 No.22907215 >>22889169 If a twitter faggot book is included in the list I move that we consider it illegitimate. By we I mean all members of /lit/ who aren't faggots.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 09:10:42 2024 No.22907218 >>22907215 That definitely counts as a meme book as well, yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 12:12:50 2024 No.22907545 >>22907208 >Speak for yourself. If you prefer the Harvard list, here it is, no need to make another one: https://www.harvard.com/shelves/top100/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 12:16:17 2024 No.22907559 >>22882711 It's so fucking over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 12:19:10 2024 No.22907566 >>22907545 >Open it >First thing i see is A Handmaid Tale >Close it Thanks for reassuring me that modern academia is a joke

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 12:46:01 2024 No.22907631 >>22907545 I didn't say I prefer the Harvard list, no. You can read, I hope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 12:59:06 2024 No.22907658 Who's compiling this list? George RR Martin????

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:01:11 2024 No.22907662 >>22907658 the feds took your email and left

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:02:13 2024 No.22907665 >>22907662 Google account*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:09:30 2024 No.22907688 >>22907662 We're going to be seeing Reddit threads and news reports saying shit like: If your son reads these books he's a nazi And the books will literally be Blood Meridian and Call of the Crocodile

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:14:34 2024 No.22907700 >>22907210 It's January 5th.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:16:39 2024 No.22907706 >>22907700 Patience. I doubt anyone else wants to do the works OP is doing

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:34:04 2024 No.22907737

>>22907631
I can read. Please elaborate. You don't want the academic canon, but you think "Mein Kampf," the autobiography of arguably the most influential person in the past 100 years, is too schizo to belong on the 4chan list. What kind of list do you want?

>>22907566
lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:36:07 2024 No.22907743 So I see /lit/ has not read any new books this year either and it's the same ol' shit from 3 centuries ago on the list. How exciting!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 13:46:45 2024 No.22907760 >>22907743 >! Why is it just engrained lore that an exclamation mark means a post is complete shit? Unfallable.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 14:18:14 2024 No.22907811

>>22907737
>You don't want the academic canon, but you think "Mein Kampf," the autobiography of arguably the most influential person in the past 100 years, is too schizo to belong on the 4chan list.
You people can really only think in black and white, huh? But if you want to know, Bloom's list is closer to someone with good taste.

Anonymous Thu Jan 4 14:20:49 2024 No.22907813

>>22907743
>NOOOOOOOOO
>How can a list that shows what is considered the best books show what is considered the best books?
>How can this happen?
Don't know dude, maybe it's the same case as to why The Godfather always appears in a list for the best movies of all time for decades, that in a sea of infinite stories, only a little fraction of them can be considered timeless masterpieces.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 14:22:17 2024 No.22907815 >>22907813 Then why does No Longer Human appear in every chart? It is by no means a masterpiece.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 14:24:40 2024 No.22907820 >>22907811 Not really black and white. Mein Kampf is pretty much in the grey zone

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 14:28:33 2024 No.22907825 >>22907815 Haven't read it so I can't say much about it. What I'm trying to say is that expecting an anual "best x of all time" list to be 100% different than the others is ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 15:05:44 2024 No.22907899 >>22907820 I’d bet most of the anons who voted for MK last year did so because Nazis based and not because they read it or thought it good

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 15:26:09 2024 No.22907929 >>22904640 >Plato's Republic and (many books of) the Bible are also not great literature Incredibly wrong. On a purely literary level Plato is on the level of Homer. And the KJV is on par with Shakespeare.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 15:34:42 2024 No.22907940 >>22907825 It's the same books in slightly different order every year. Maybe the list should be about books released in 2023 we already know about infinite jest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 15:38:07 2024 No.22907945 >>22907940 It’s a favorites list and the anons here favor the classics. Unsure why you’re surprised. If you want a forum for more recent books it is probably best to go elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:34:43 2024 No.22908302 >>22907815 No Longer Human is based.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:36:10 2024 No.22908311 I'm gonna beat you're scrawny ass, OP

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:36:57 2024 No.22908317 File: 106 KB, 669x501, IMG_2305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Call of the Crocodile is number 1 Infinite Jest is number 2 Those are the most talked about books on /lit/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:36:58 2024 No.22908318 >>22908311 Was this intentional? Am I supposed to laugh? Haha very funny, "you're" hahaha

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:38:25 2024 No.22908321 >>22908302 It's only based if you're 14

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:49:11 2024 No.22908355 >>22907929 >On a purely literary level Plato is on the level of Homer. kek absolute nigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:51:58 2024 No.22908362 >>22908321 I'm not 14 though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 17:59:58 2024 No.22908384 >>22907820 Your reading comprehension is terrible. Not a surprise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:11:49 2024 No.22908418 >>22908384 Not really. I'm just capable of reading history without getting triggered like a 14 year old kike faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 18:47:55 2024 No.22908530 >>22908418 >triggered

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 19:15:47 2024 No.22908643 Did OP ditch us? How do we respond?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 20:08:07 2024 No.22908860 >>22908643 Maybe he was the Perry High School shooter

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 21:27:11 2024 No.22909125 >>22882711 >>22894288 >>22896331 Don't leave us, OP. Deliver the goods.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 4 22:25:56 2024 No.22909305 >>22908418 Yeah, I'm sure you are. >reading history

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 00:58:49 2024 No.22909734 Fuck you bloody

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:06:49 2024 No.22909755 It’s over. The vote was never real. Op was just making fun of us.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:15:03 2024 No.22909779 He just wanted book recommendations

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:16:16 2024 No.22909782 >>22909755 >>22909734 >>22909125 >>22908643 all the data is right there in the spreadsheet just do it yourself ffs

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:36:38 2024 No.22909845
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>>22909125
Working on it now. A close friend had a family emergency so I've been helping him out over the past few days. Should have it done soon.
Adobe has also given me a time limit... so that plays a part in needing to get it done quickly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:39:00 2024 No.22909854 >>22909845 Sorry to hear that, forgive our impatience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:40:35 2024 No.22909861 >>22909854 No worries mate. I've been on this site far too long to get upset in threads.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:44:28 2024 No.22909875 >>22909845 lmao, I hope you lose the ability to make this and the chart for this year never gets made.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 01:48:18 2024 No.22909882 File: 98 KB, 267x325, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Book of the year has been added.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:02:20 2024 No.22909908 >>22909782 Top 10: 1. The Brothers Karamazov 2. The Holy Bible 3. Moby Dick 4. Blood Meridian 5. Stoner 6. Lolita 7. Ulysses 8. Don Quixote 9. Faust 10. Infinite Jest Top Authors: 1. Dostoevsky 2. Melville 3. Tolstoy 4. Homer 5. Nabokov

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:04:27 2024 No.22909914 >>22909908 >Top Authors Uhhh Godbros...??

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:10:57 2024 No.22909930 >>22909845 I was just kidding OP, you're doing incredible work. In the meantime I'll keep posting >it's over >POST IT

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:12:52 2024 No.22909936 >>22909908 Alright, I guess it's time to read Blood Meridian

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:15:38 2024 No.22909939 >>22909845 >Gravity’s Rainbow not 1 >not top 3 >or top 5 >not even top 10 shit fucking list

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:22:09 2024 No.22909950 >>22909845 >>22909908 How tf is Faust 9th and 13th?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:25:37 2024 No.22909966 >>22909950 What are you on about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:28:07 2024 No.22909976 >>22909845 Nice bait. This is not the list.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:33:05 2024 No.22909994 >>22909882 Wagnerbros, we made it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:41:41 2024 No.22910010 >>22909950 Dont know how OP is counting votes but I ran it through Excel and that's what I got. Cleaned the data a bit too but didn't put in as much effort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:44:44 2024 No.22910015 >>22901479 >You're a schizo if you don't want a company to have acccess to your data, goy lol no one is buying what you're selling, lad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:48:08 2024 No.22910023 >>22909950 This list>>22909908 is bullshit. See>>22883676 That's the top 10.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:48:55 2024 No.22910027 >>22882711 First of all, thank you Second... POST THE FUCKING TOP YOU NIGGER

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:52:46 2024 No.22910038 >>22910023 That's not the top you illiterate. >>22910027 Making a snack. I’ll post a screenshot of it in a moment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:54:41 2024 No.22910042 >>22910010 I did it through excel as well. A massive portion isn’t formatted correctly or duplicate novels per submission. I'll post my documents alongside the final chart.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:57:56 2024 No.22910050 >>22910038 Except it is. Even the tiebreakers line up accordingly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:58:30 2024 No.22910051 OP was compromised by the FBI

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 02:59:40 2024 No.22910053
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>>22910027
Here's what I have so far. Work deadline is coming up so I'm going to take a little break.

Format:
Placement
Cover
Title
Author
[Submission Votes](Poll Votes)

>>22910050
I meant the top of the cart dingus. Read the bloody placement numbers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:00:46 2024 No.22910055 >>22910053 Made a spelling error ... I'll see myself out. I've lost.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:02:52 2024 No.22910060 There's really no excuse for Shakespeare not being on top. I know it's not an objective measurement of value, but if every English speaker put him in their five, as they should have, it would have been decisive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:03:09 2024 No.22910061 >>22910053 Lovely work, thank you anon p.s. Jesus, this board has become a meme. Only tiktok braindead dummies would have voted those books that are now at the top. I bet not even half of the cunts who voted Moby Dick have even read its first page.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:08:55 2024 No.22910075 >>22910060 Plenty of people can acknowledge Shakespeare is great but that doesn’t mean he’s necessarily a favorite

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:10:01 2024 No.22910079 >>22910061 >filtered by Moby dick >claims Moby dick is tiktok Cope and seethe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:11:10 2024 No.22910082 >>22909845 Please use nice covers bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:12:44 2024 No.22910087 >>22909939 this place has gone downhill since the trump election

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:13:48 2024 No.22910091 >>22885793 >there is a party of anti-Wagnerians that is even more militant than in Wagner's day.' Faced with Wagner, he says, even otherwise serious scholars ‘take leave of their senses … and start to rant.’ those people are known as jews

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:14:05 2024 No.22910093

>>22910082
Trying to find nice ones for the majority of them. Don't have time to scroll through pages of images though. If there's any you guys find ugly send alternative covers to the thread and I'll replace them.
I'm scaling images down to have a height of 280 pixels so keep resolutions equal to or greater.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:16:18 2024 No.22910102 >>22910053 Thank you OP

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:18:50 2024 No.22910107 File: 106 KB, 669x501, IMG_2305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910053 >Infinite Jest low on the list >No meme books or even Call of the Crocodile We did it Reddit! Man did you really cave to the normalfags fast.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:19:00 2024 No.22910108 >>22910061 >Moby Dick >tiktok friendly ??? >>22910053 Looks ok. >>22910060 >as they should have kys Nigel >>22910082 Huh? Be specific, retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:20:05 2024 No.22910112 >>22910079 found the zoomzoom blacked lover little faggot GET REKT SCUM

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:21:09 2024 No.22910114 >>22910108 There are betters covers for Lolita for example. That shitty green one is trash.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:21:29 2024 No.22910117 >>22910112 nta but you should kindly kys

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:21:53 2024 No.22910118 File: 22 KB, 333x500, images (7).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910093 Change the W&P one for this

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:22:00 2024 No.22910119 >>22910107 I can understand IJ but there’s no way to reconcile no CotC as it’s literally the most reposted book on all of /lit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:22:53 2024 No.22910123 >>22910060 based opinion >>22909939 turbobased opinion >>22910108 I meant that Moby Dick got voted only because its a book they saw recomended and talked about on social media, not actually read it >>22910053 thank you for your effort

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:23:47 2024 No.22910124 >>22910114 Post them, then. Men cant read minds, lady.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:24:13 2024 No.22910128 >>22910107 Most people cave to peer pressure.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:24:43 2024 No.22910129 >>22910123 >its a book they saw recomended and talked about on social media, not actually read it source?

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:24:47 2024 No.22910130

>>22910114
Nabokov published it with a blank cover purposefully. He had another in mind, however, his main wish was that there were “no girls”. It's meant to be a portrait of the man. Most covers I've seen have rejected his intent. I'm going to stick to the cover I've used.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:25:13 2024 No.22910133 >>22909939 That's a good thing. We are improving and moving away from Reddit postmodernism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:25:53 2024 No.22910134 >>22910119 There is only one person who resposts CotC and is it's author

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:26:06 2024 No.22910135 >>22910107 It’s just one guy who spams how much he hates Call of the Crocodile. DFW has a niche fanbase. Same for Gardner.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:27:21 2024 No.22910142 File: 26 KB, 327x512, unnamed.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910124 Not that anon but I find this one the best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:27:26 2024 No.22910144 >>22910119 There wasn't a single vote for Call of the Crocodile. Afraid that's on all of us, including you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:27:35 2024 No.22910145 >>22910134 Calling bullshit. I’ve seen YouTube reviews of it memed on here plenty of times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:28:10 2024 No.22910146 >>22910135 Nice try, Frank.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:28:41 2024 No.22910151 >>22910142 OP here, I think it's a nice cover but not a good cover for Lolita. My reasoning is here: >>22910130

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:28:41 2024 No.22910150 >>22910144 Liar. I voted for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:28:58 2024 No.22910152 File: 199 KB, 600x958, 2a34d8_1c8a8d7f9e7f44d38a4cbdea92554c3cmv2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910130 Ehh whatever. Besides this way you don't have to work more. I was actually thinking of this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:29:11 2024 No.22910153 >>22910130 Good choice. That's the iconic first edition

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:29:17 2024 No.22910154 >>22910135 Were you asleep when the poll took place?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:29:42 2024 No.22910155 >>22910145 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-XqMrk296uo&pp

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:30:14 2024 No.22910156 >>22910150 I'll go back through it—not that one vote will change anything. I don’t remember seeing one unless you posted it after I had begun counting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:30:22 2024 No.22910157 >>22910151 Nta but thoughts on >>22910118 ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:31:57 2024 No.22910159 >>22910157 I'm using it. I quite like that one. Here's to hoping you'll be able to notice the chandelier once it’s shrunken down.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:32:36 2024 No.22910164 >>22910152 I love this cover so much

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:35:15 2024 No.22910168 >>22910159 Thanks! Also I hope you make a new thread once the chart Is done as opposed to posting it here. I'm going to bed now. Good night everyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:38:22 2024 No.22910178 >>22910168 I will. No need to worry, anon. Sleep well!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:48:26 2024 No.22910199 File: 426 KB, 1684x2531, 81O5RyLOXyL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Better resolution if OP needs it

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 03:59:22 2024 No.22910220

>>22910053
your work is much appreciated OP, looking forward to seeing the final chart.
>>22909939
the board's attitudes towards pynchon have been shifting these past few years. hard to say why, but there's certainly not as much discussion being held around GR in comparison to the other two texts in the meme trilogy.
on the bright side, M&D made it into this year's top 50. perhaps it's still possible to recultivate the board's interest in pynchon.
make threads. discuss his novels. get other anons thinking. post pynchon.
>>22910130
i'm in agreement with this, you should keep the green lolita cover.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:04:59 2024 No.22910231 >>22910053 How's this list>>22883676 wrong, dumbass? It was made before the tiebreaks.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:11:21 2024 No.22910252

>>22909908
If you are alluding to Dostoevsky’s worst novels, then, indeed, I dislike intensely The Brothers Karamazov and the ghastly Crime and Punishment rigamarole. No, I do not object to soul-searching and self-revelation, but in those books the soul, and the sins, and the sentimentality, and the journalese, hardly warrant the tedious and muddled search. Dostoyevsky’s lack of taste, his monotonous dealings with persons suffering with pre-Freudian complexes, the way he has of wallowing in the tragic misadventures of human dignity – all this is difficult to admire. I do not like this trick his characters have of ”sinning their way to Jesus” or, as a Russian author, Ivan Bunin, put it more bluntly, ”spilling Jesus all over the place." Crime and Punishment’s plot did not seem as incredibly banal in 1866 when the book was written as it does now when noble prostitutes are apt to be received a little cynically by experienced readers. Dostoyevsky never really got over the influence which the European mystery novel and the sentimental novel made upon him. The sentimental influence implied that kind of conflict he liked—placing virtuous people in pathetic situations and then extracting from these situations the last ounce of pathos. Non-Russian readers do not realize two things: that not all Russians love Dostoevsky as much as Americans do, and that most of those Russians who do, venerate him as a mystic and not as an artist. He was a prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. I admit that some of his scenes, some of his tremendous farcical rows are extraordinarily amusing. But his sensitive murderers and soulful prostitutes are not to be endured for one moment—by this reader anyway. Dostoyevsky seems to have been chosen by the destiny of Russian letters to become Russia’s greatest playwright, but he took the wrong turning and wrote novels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:13:26 2024 No.22910261 >>22909882 Isn't it called The Ring of [the] Nibelung?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:14:37 2024 No.22910265 >>22910252 Go back to your grave, Nabokov. Dostoyevsky won.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:30:48 2024 No.22910296 >>22910053 where I can find the list? give me the list and I'll make one. but better

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:36:30 2024 No.22910305 >>22910296 nvm I'm retarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:39:52 2024 No.22910315 >>22910261 Yep, thanks for catching that. Knocking these off back to back so I'm bound to make a few mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:44:53 2024 No.22910326 >>22910053 can I get finished ranking OP? I want to make a chart too

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:46:51 2024 No.22910333 >>22910326 I'll post all the documents with the finished chart and then you lot can go wild.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 04:51:33 2024 No.22910345 >>22910333 deal

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:20:11 2024 No.22910407
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Signing off for the day. I'll attempt to wrap it up tomorrow—worried about Adobe kicking me off of Photoshop before I'm able to finish.
Here's what it's currently looking like. If anyone notices any errors or general criticism let me know.
Finally, I said it above but I'll say it again. If you'd prefer I use another cover for any novel post them in the thread. To prevent pixellation send images ≥ 280px vertically.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:21:36 2024 No.22910412 >>22910407 good job

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:26:45 2024 No.22910422
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>>22910407
Can you use a different Moby-Dick cover? for example pic rel? Something that feels more epic idk. You also forgot to add the author of the Bible, his name is Jesus Christ hehe :D

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:27:58 2024 No.22910423 >>22910407 Looks good.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 05:28:40 2024 No.22910424 >>22910422 Never saw this cover, I'll use it. I love it, bloody menacing portrayal of the whale.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 06:23:12 2024 No.22910525 >>22910060 Now we move on to the next step of the master plan where we require Shakespeare to be number 1.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 06:28:02 2024 No.22910539 >>22910123 >I meant that Moby Dick got voted only because its a book they saw recomended and talked about on social media, not actually read it Stop projecting faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 06:28:15 2024 No.22910540 >>22910220 Infinite Jest is far more deserving of waning prestige than Gravity's Rainbow, and I don't even like Pynchon half as much as other people seem to.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 06:38:38 2024 No.22910570 >>22910407 I see Mishima is making a huge comeback. And Hollocaustbecq went from 90s to 30s in a few years. Crazy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:14:01 2024 No.22910636 >>22910407 AARRGHGH ITS KILLING ME NOT KNOWING WHICH ONE IS NUMEBR 10

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:14:53 2024 No.22910640 >>22910636 Ulysses

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:27:04 2024 No.22910660 >>22910407 I'm a little over halfway through Moby Dick so far. Honestly, I'm liking Starbuck and Stubb more than Ahab up to this point. Stubb especially is fucking kino.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:30:13 2024 No.22910671 Missed the boat on vooting, but let me just say, the consistent lack of The Magus on these lists is a slap in the face. It should at least make the top 100. I'd personally put it in the top 20.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:48:30 2024 No.22910711 >>22910640 lol I was kidding but thanks, you're a friendly anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:51:34 2024 No.22910719 >>22910671 The ending was a little disappointing to me, knocked it down for me. The first 2/3s were good though

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 07:59:49 2024 No.22910737 File: 58 KB, 414x640, IMG_7015.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910407 Over half a century of Lolita covers and we’re still gonna use the original greenback?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 08:08:47 2024 No.22910752 >>22910061 >this board has become a meme For moby dick? The one book that's been the board's favorite since forever? The one book for which the board has even made an annotated version?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 08:20:04 2024 No.22910794 >>22910130 >It's meant to be a portrait of the man. No it isn't. It was supposed to be some kind of landscape

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 08:41:46 2024 No.22910857 >>22910671 >the consistent lack of The Magus on these lists is a slap in the face That would be my fault sorry. Every time a thread comes up and anons get curious I mention it features cuckholding and BBC and that seems to put them off for some reason

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 08:46:07 2024 No.22910866 >>22910794 The narrative is meant to be a portrait of the man. The cover being a women changes the assumed focus of the story. You're correct though, it was meant to be clouds if I remember.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 08:55:06 2024 No.22910880 >>22910752 All post election tourism aka redditor influx.

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:16:36 2024 No.22911062

>>22910407
Not bad to be fair, can't really complain about that top 10 in terms of content. Would have liked to see Ulysses higher up though, it's 100% better than Stoner, that's for certain. Pale Fire deserves to be much higher as well.
>No Junger at all
Maybe next year trenchbros.....

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 10:47:37 2024 No.22911117 >>22910752 I'm half way through Moby Dick and it's one of the few /lit/ approved classics which actually lives up to it's billing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:04:10 2024 No.22911147 >>22911062 >>No Junger at all >Maybe next year trenchbros..... Damn, that one hurts

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:08:26 2024 No.22911159
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>>22910061
>Only tiktok braindead dummies would have voted those books that are now at the top
>Onlt people with literally no attention span and an addiction to short-format entertainment would have voted for Moby Dick, The Bible, Brothers and fucking Ulysses

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:23:08 2024 No.22911192 File: 111 KB, 667x1000, StormOfSteel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22911147 Apart from just pic related, he has a lot of top-tier books. Very underrated ironically enough simply because of how good Storm of Steel is.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 11:31:47 2024 No.22911204 >>22909882 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 12:34:27 2024 No.22911315 Where can I find charts from other years?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 12:44:13 2024 No.22911329 >no Gaddis for the first time in 9 years I don't recognize this place anymore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 13:20:38 2024 No.22911415 >>22911062 Junger might still be in, he's got 4 votes and the last thing OP worked on has 5. Depends if people voted for him in the tiebreaker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:02:00 2024 No.22911512 >>22910407 Kino list so far. Better than last year.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 14:03:21 2024 No.22911515 >>22911192 Any recs? >>22911329 A toast! A toast to /lit/!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:31:15 2024 No.22911727 >>22911315 The sticky thread. It has a lot of other things too, you should read it. https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Charts#Top_100

Anonymous Fri Jan 5 15:57:20 2024 No.22911799

>>22911515
>any recs
Apart from SoS his other non-fiction work is well worth reading: The Worker, The Peace, War as an Inner Experience etc. all cover different topics and all are concise and lack any nonsensical padding you often get in philosophical texts. His non-fiction isn't exactly Shakespeare, but again, they're compact, easy to read, and have interesting political and philosophical points, themes, questions, etc. etc. You really can't go wrong with Junger to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 16:58:20 2024 No.22911958 >>22910857 I don't think the book advocates it, it just depicts it. Perhaps a cope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 17:09:34 2024 No.22911981 >>22910407 Better already than last year I'd say.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 18:33:02 2024 No.22912196 >>22911799 Thank you, I'll check some of those

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 19:11:34 2024 No.22912310 >Master and Margarita and East of Eden still on the list. Grim...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 19:28:44 2024 No.22912383 File: 120 KB, 955x945, 1675048223575419.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22911329 >no Gaddis for the first time in 9 years BASED. Fuck that guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:07:23 2024 No.22912521 File: 28 KB, 290x464, 011_isaac_tobin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22910407 >>22910737 I suggest this one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 5 20:08:24 2024 No.22912526 File: 20 KB, 290x464, 007_jennifer_heuer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22912521 Or

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