/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22878295]

Miss Mary Jane Robot edition

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[Anonymous No.22878301]

First for Dune

[Anonymous No.22878302]

what are some books that in your opinion show the heights that fantasy and sci-fi can reach and show the best of what the genres offer?

[Anonymous No.22878346]

>>22878302

[Anonymous No.22878364]

Need fantasy novel with sexy slave girls

Seeing Return of the Jedi as a little kid forever ruined me

[Anonymous No.22878367]

Where should I look for Lovecraft stuff if it isn't on gutenberg?
Also, that broken hick english on Dunwich Horror sucked ass to read

[Alex Beyman No.22878376]

A shortie but a goodie about a poor boy in an arcology befriending a fugitive AI

https://write.as/e2bfcnpssmpl2.md

[Anonymous No.22878380]

>>22878364

Ever notice the Twilek's titty pops out of her top for a single frame when she's struggling against her leash with Jabba? That brown nipple saw me thru puberty

[Anonymous No.22878385]

>What was the last book you read?
>What is the title of the book you're currently reading?
>What is the next book you plan to read?

Posting it at the start of the thread not at the end edition.

[Anonymous No.22878388]

>>22878380
Is this visible on the dvd?

[Anonymous No.22878390]

>>22878385
none what kind of faggot reads books?

[Anonymous No.22878393]

>>22878385
>The Dunwich Horror
>I'm between books
>The whisperer in the dark, if I can find it
I'm on a Lovecraft binge, I've read mountains of madness and call of cthulhu too

[Anonymous No.22878399]

>>22878388

IDK, I saw it on VHS. But with some light level tweaking you'll discover her nips are pretty damn visible in many shots. There's another nip slip with a blue and white Twilek too

https://slipups.com/items/155.html

[Anonymous No.22878418]

>>22878380
Oola’s last dance scene was my first boner

Her squirming and begging and pleading in that skimpy fucking outfit, her sexy body going down the trapdoor…the look on her face when she sees the rancor…oh my god

[Anonymous No.22878436]

Finished the first two books and wasn't very impressed.
I don't think I like Severian as a character all that much.

I think he's a dumbass. Obsesses over women a lot, like 1/3 of the story is this dude drooling over women. Says he dislikes Jolenta, proceeds to fuck her. Says he loves Dorcas, fucks another woman less than a few hundred meters from her. Oh by the way, this woman is the love interest of his best friend top kek. Gene Wolfe is one horny motherfucker and it is obvious throughout the books.
Daydreams about serving Vodalus and his purpose until he meets Vodalus. But he still serves Vodalus because he is scared shitless of him.
He has no redeemable qualities as a person. He's not smart or honorable. He's clumsy and slow of thinking, any fight or confrontation he survives is through pure luck because he has no skill or fighting prowess.
The world building is cool I have to admit, it's the only thing to keep the story going but it is sadly not enough. I might read the other books in the future because people insists it gets good on the third book but honestly is this shit overrated? Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.22878437]

>>22878295
test

[Anonymous No.22878442]

>>22878295
I want recommendations for more obscure and sad science fiction, not necessarily bleak or nihilistic

[Anonymous No.22878453]

>>22878436
>Severian
>Survives
lmao

[Anonymous No.22878458]

>>22878418

Lyn Me's boob also pops out the side of her mesh top. Supposedly Leia's fall out of her gold bikini when she's fleeing Jabba but I've seen the still frame and just don't see it. Wishful thinking by horny nerds maybe.

[Anonymous No.22878460]

>>22878453
Until the end of the second book he does.
Thanks for spoiling though.

[Alex Beyman No.22878461]

Here's another fun one, about a student hiking in a state forest stumbling across a future man and his broken down time machine

https://alexbeyman.substack.com/p/the-time-travelers-muse

[Anonymous No.22878470]

>>22878302
>heights that fantasy can reach

the silmarillion = mons olympus
the hobbit = k2
the lords of the rings = sea level
everything else = challenger deep

[Anonymous No.22878475]

>>22878460
Reread the Avern fight

[Anonymous No.22878478]

>>22878385
Last: Thin Air by Richard K Morgan.
Current: I literally just finished it.
Next: Dune? Neverwhere? Lord of light? Dying Earth? 2nd Witcher book? 2nd hyperion book? Open to someone picking from them.

Anyways, review time.

This felt a lot like how playing cyberpunk 2077 felt. It really was a cyberpunk world in all the best ways and it took itself serious.

The last cyberpunk book I read was snowcrash which I rated like a 3/5 or 4/5. This book was better than snowcrash. I'll go ahead and say it's a 4/5. I will read more Richard K Morgan now.

The combat was really good, gunplay was written well and people get fucking shot. Even important people.

The story was really really good, it was clean, entertaining, no ass-pulls at any time. Just a ton of people trying to fuck each other over for reasons you have to keep reading to find out. Reminded me of how vernor vinge has stories go in some ways. Always another layer at play you have to wait for it to be revealed.

There are a total of 3 sex scenes, they are pretty good. It's not cringe or weird like Ringworlds sex scene and they were more detailed than the first Witcher book.

If you like cyberpunk as a genre, read this.

Spoiler reviews
I am pissed they fucking shot Gradual, I really was rooting for the Chinese in this story. They should have made out alright like everyone else did. The ending of this book felt like if the cyberpunk 2077 story had a good ending where everyone is happy. Sooo it fucking ruled.

Thats about it. I'm personally hoping to squeeze one more book in before the new year.

[Anonymous No.22878485]

>>22878478

you should read some charles stross next

[Anonymous No.22878498]

>>22878475
I remember he was supposed to die there but somehow was alive?
Is he dead and writing memoirs beyond the grave?

[Anonymous No.22878500]

>>22878436
If you already dislike Severian from the first 2 books then you are going to hate Silk.

[Anonymous No.22878518]

>>22878500
He's such a different character I can't see why you'd compare them. Silk is also not the only POV character the way Severian seems to be.
>>22878498
Keep reading and find out.

[Anonymous No.22878549]

>>22878518
Just to clarify, do you mean I missed some detail on the avern fight chapter or that I should read the next books to find out?

[Anonymous No.22878559]

>>22878549
You'd need to read on to find out. Urth of the New Sun directly spells it out.

[Anonymous No.22878588]

>>22878301
based

[Anonymous No.22878592]

>>22878367
https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/cs.aspx

[Anonymous No.22878613]

Just finished Blacktongue Thief. It was good but the author strikes me as a faggot. I'll read the sequel but I wouldn't have a beer with him in a bar.

[Anonymous No.22878630]

>>22878518
Because both protagonists share the similar traits and characterization throughout their respective stories.

[Anonymous No.22878649]

>>22878295
(This is a question about books.)
I just watch the series Upload. (It's ok, not great.) It rapidly presents a lot of contemporary scifi concerns. But it's a comedy, so it doesn't treat any topic very thoroughly. I thought there might be a contemporary sci-fi author who has written more intelligently in the last couple years about the near future?

[None !SFFG.n1h7M No.22878789]

>>22878295
The Surviving Sky, Rages #1 - Kritika H. Rao (2023)

All that remains of humanity reside in flying cities where plants and trees form the basis of their society. The architects design, maintain, and arguably control everything through their inborn ability to manipulate plants. Sungineers develop technology that runs on the architect power, such as computers and other modern technologies. Humanity was forced to escape to the sky over a thousand years ago due to the Earth Rages which through both tornadoes and earthquakes utterly destroy a region.

This book has a lot of Hindu influence. Most of what I recognized was because it had spread to other cultures. There's a considerable amount that was a clear reference, so I was able to look up a lot to have a general idea what it was going for. The spiritual aspects dominate the narrative for the last ~20%. I admit that much of its significance was lost on me and surely was the greatest contributor to my not comprehending the end goal of the antagonists.

There are two viewpoint characters, a husband and wife in their 30s. Irevan is a senior architect and a member of the council, while his wife, Ahilya, is the world's sole archaeologist. Their relationship is quite troubled for a lot of reasons and they're very bad at acknowledging their problems let alone resolving them. Their relationship drama is present from the beginning, though much else is more important than it. There's a considerable amount of political discussion, social commentary, and philosophizing. Later on the focus shifts to what felt like almost exclusively relationship melodrama with brief interludes of plot progression. Their cycle of remorse and apologizing then lashing out at each other becomes more aggressive, spiteful, and petty until it finally reaches a climax at around 75% through where they have a barely existent sex scene that instantly resolves all of their relationship problems and allows them to have multiple epiphanies.

As to what happens in the book, Ahilya is trying to prove her theories and Irevan is in damage control mode about everything all the time. Their sky cities aren't sustainable any longer and since they don't want them to crash they're trying to figure out what to do about that.

This has been one of the most difficult books for me to write about in a long time because of how promising it started and how disappointed I became by the end. I was greatly enjoying myself and thought I would be giving this 5 stars. For most of the first half I was already planning out how I'd write a strong defense of how and why it hadn't received the reception it deserved. Afterwards there was more and more I couldn't overlook or excuse. Overall, I still liked it for its world and ideas. If the second half and ending hadn't lost me, I would've rated this much higher. It's unlikely I'll read the sequel unless I get over my expectation of more disappointment.

Rating: 3.5/5 (3)

[Anonymous No.22878815]

why isn't there science fiction about races and how important races are and what races will do in the future and how races deal with each other's racism in the future?

fantasy has a lot of racism

[Anonymous No.22878818]

>>22878364
Tarnsman of Gor, of course

[Anonymous No.22878820]

>>22878789
Your """reviews""" are SHIT. fuck off
>>22878815
you mean apart from Last and First Men?

[Anonymous No.22878833]

>>22878436
Came here to post this. Im about to finish the 2nd book and I am not sure if I want to continue. I just finished the part of the play gone wrong and don't really understand. Im sure it was prohpetic in some sense, but im too dumb for puzzles.

Is this Wolfe's best work?

[Anonymous No.22878837]

>>22878815
because nobody wants to read about a place 6 million years into the future where people are still concerned with race autism like modern rightards or woketards

[Anonymous No.22878855]

>>22878837
>modern rightards or woketards
oh boy, "opposing genocide is just as bad as genocide" spotted in the wild

[Anonymous No.22878857]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzc8CmmwyVk
chuds, what's your response?

[Anonymous No.22878883]

>>22878837
the people in the future are advanced so they must be smarter and they must be nicer to each other?
I don't think so and that's extremely naive, remember the dark ages after the fall of the roman empire when all the aquaducts in Britain were destroyed because the Romans left the people in the future ended up more primitive.
remember the conquistadors killing all the native americans and essentially ending their civilisation and replacing it with a spanish version with some added Spanish and african genes.

The people of the future could be way more racist and might even be primitive for a while

[Anonymous No.22878886]

>>22878302
the well of stars is one of the more, if not the most evocative sci-fi novel i've read.
xeelee probably for sheer size and scale
some of PKDs later works for ideaism

>>22878385
>last
First two Dying Earth novels and Jester of Apocalypse 1 & 2.
>current
Jester of Apocalypse 3. It has been surprisingly entertaining for possibly my first ever complete random royalroad read. I would hate reading this early on though and I hope this current book leaves off in a good spot considering it is currently the last.
Cugel's Saga; he just left the mud flats after evading the angered women.
I dropped Path of the Berserker. The writing is below-average and the skill usage is far too frequent, intruding upon everyday activity and interaction.
>next
I have no idea! I should finish the final book of Martial World and see how it ends. My Kindle backlog only grows and grows.

[Anonymous No.22878913]

Just finished the Unholy Consult.

HOW THE FUCK DID KELMOMAS GET INSIDE THE ARK. THAT WHOLE SCENE MAKES NO SENSE.

[Anonymous No.22878914]

>>22878855
if white genocide is real so is native american genocide

[Anonymous No.22878925]

>>22878883
do you also want to read about trannies existing and being persecuted for transing kids in the future

[Anonymous No.22878929]

>>22878857
this guy is such a fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.22878938]

>>22878914
...so? they can both be real.

[Anonymous No.22878967]

>>22878925
I'd rather not

[Anonymous No.22878973]

>>22878478
nice. I hear this one is good and has some nice noir elements. I did enjoy Altered Carbon season 1 but never read the book. for next book I'd recommend you finish 2nd Hyperion or start AND STOP and Dune book 1

[Anonymous No.22878987]

>>22878913
To add on, does Bakker ever explain what exactly is the voice Kellhus hears?

[Anonymous No.22878992]

>>22878837
wrong, people like what they know, and what they know is that they just don't like em. simple as. and if you can make your side the funny one, then people will naturally gravitate towards it. that's why people generally lean right more on this site and others like it, because they have better jokes. you may consider yourself above this sort of thing but a lot of people don't. do not speak for them.

[Anonymous No.22879021]

>>22878992
>and if you can make your side the funny one, then people will naturally gravitate towards it. that's why people generally lean right more on this site and others like it, because they have better jokes.
right

[Anonymous No.22879023]

>>22878913
Esmenet let him escape and the Consult found him, his last pov chapter is him being taken in by a skin spy
>>22878987
Ajokli

[Anonymous No.22879025]

>>22879021
>jew shit = right leaning
there is a reason I used the word "generally", mister shapiro

[Anonymous No.22879028]

>>22879021
What retarded movie is that clip from? Hollywood seems like it's becoming even more insufferably bad.

[Anonymous No.22879039]

>>22879028
>implying hollywood would sign off on an anti troon film in current year
it's Lady Ballers by God's Chosen at the Daily Wire. as you can see, they make BBC jokes, so it is a certified jewish classic.

[Anonymous No.22879040]

>>22879023
>Esmenet let him escape and the Consult found him, his last pov chapter is him being taken in by a skin spy
Oh, I completely forgot about this
>Ajokli
I figured as much

[Anonymous No.22879044]

>>22879023
Btw you think Kellhus is damned or not? Why did Bakker not reveal this to us? Wasn't this the whole point of introducing the judging eye?

[Anonymous No.22879092]

>>22879028
jews are at the forefront of the conservative movement. there's that jewlet that you just referenced that went around burning barbies to protest the barbie movement, the libsoftiktok account is run by a mega jewess, the french far right's rising star is an algeria jew, one of the biggest "alternative" media starts is a homosexual right wing jew that moved to florida to escape libtards, etcetera

[Anonymous No.22879098]

>>22879092
please excuse typos. i'm going to sleep

[Anonymous No.22879140]

>>22878833
The Solar Cycle as a whole is his best and most important work. I'd recommend you try something else by him but it's very unlikely you'll enjoy any of it, like The Fifth Head of Cerberus is a series of puzzles that make you more and more confused as you go along and by the time you finish the book you know less than you did going in lol
Maybe try the Latro books

[Anonymous No.22879153]

>>22878833
This shouldn't even be a question. The books are really short and if you are wondering if they are worth your time then it's better to quit now imo.

[Anonymous No.22879199]

>>22879044
I think he hid his soul in the other decapitant and so his fate in the outside is still tbd

[Anonymous No.22879231]

>>22878436
>Oh by the way, this woman is the love interest of his best friend top kek.

It's more that whatever Dr Talos did causes everyone nearby to fall for her.
She doesn't really have much to do with Jonas.

[Anonymous No.22879406]

[Anonymous No.22879487]

What is the most degenerate yet alluring male fantasy you can think of?

[Anonymous No.22879532]

>>22878436
May I suggest you read Mistborn or some other plotslop instead

[Anonymous No.22879580]

>>22879532
This. Mistborn has twists and turns, thrills and chills, even a little romance and the MAGIC SYSTEM oh did I tell you about the MAGIC SYSTEM it's so complicated the hero wins because they are more powerful and special than anyone else and it's so CLEVER

[Anonymous No.22879627]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22879631]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22879652]

>>22878478
have you read altered carbon? read that
also fyi he was writing a second Veil book but shelved it recently, sadly

[Anonymous No.22879692]

>>22879532
No you may not because your taste in books is shit.

[Anonymous No.22879698]

>>22878436
>I think he's a dumbass
Um, yeah, that's kinda the point. Severian is a fuck up.

>Obsesses over women a lot, like 1/3 of the story is this dude drooling over women.
He's like 17 and he spent all of his prior life in an exlusively male cloistered community where he got to see a women once in a few months, and then Thecla happened and it fucked him up further. And then a number of those women he meets are actively manipulating him, like Thecla did. Fucking of course he falls for it - the guy's thirsty and messed up af. How do you imagine a character like him should've acted? Regarding Dorcas specifically - Severian was very explicitly deeply frustrated by the fact that he can't make her happy, she's sad and broken living with him, and that puts an enormous strain on their relationship which he does not how to deal with because he's a teenage idiot and that is literally the first commited relationship he's navigating.

>Daydreams about serving Vodalus and his purpose until he meets Vodalus.
The boy needed something cool to aspire to. But the imagined idols don't tend to survive rendezvous with reality very well.

>He's not smart or honorable. He's clumsy and slow of thinking
He is generally a very average young boy, with some autisitcally specific knowledge and skills and tendency to easily fall for manipulation, contrasted by occasional bright and moral moments, which makes him rather well rounded out. It is shown especially well that he does the good things that he does not out of some inexplicable maxima, but because he feels the shame of letting other people down and ffear of losing his identity in an extremely realistic and believable way.

>but honestly is this shit overrated? Absolutely
Books are fine, peopel who treat them like scripture are fucked in the head. Everything other than mentally ill strangers on 4chan told you that it's just a fun little sci-fi adventure in a Dying Earth setting with Catholic undertones and somewhat fancy prose. Why would you believe mentally ill strangers on 4chan above everything else?

[Anonymous No.22879700]

>>22878478
have you read altered carbon? don't read that

[Anonymous No.22879703]

>>22878498
Nigger gets literally respawned.

[Anonymous No.22879898]

Is there any interest in resurrecting the /sffg/ bookclubs/group reads in the new year?

[Anonymous No.22879972]

>>22878837
The only way "race autism" wouldn't exist is under one of two conditions:
There's only one extant race left
A higher authority forces racial equalization, and by that I mean eugenics

In any other context, racial problems will exist.

[Anonymous No.22879982]

>>22878855
Yes retard, your radical positions are just as destructive as their radical positions.
Trying to pretend that you're just "opposing genocide" isn't fooling anyone you slimy "anti-racist" faggot.

[Anonymous No.22880001]

>>22879898
Not unless a bunch of cute girls with nice tiddies will also be in this club.

[Anonymous No.22880077]

>>22879898
no women will just come and ruin the club
it's impossible to create a club that prevents femoids from arriving, they always pretend to be male like Jews and then take the mask off later

[Anonymous No.22880098]

>>22880001
>>22880077
I want to try and do a Tolkien book club with other anons in this general. Start with The Silmarillion, end with The later volumes of The History of Middle-Earth.

[Anonymous No.22880119]

>>22879898
I could be convinced. What's the format? I'm part of the goodreads club thing but don't really participate.

[Anonymous No.22880130]

>>22878837
Not engaging in a central part of the human condition (tribalism) because you might get into some icky politics? Any author guilty of this is a hack.

[Anonymous No.22880185]

Cozy Shallan chapters

[Anonymous No.22880190]

>>22880185
Trash

[Anonymous No.22880201]

>>22880190
Sexist pig

[Anonymous No.22880203]

>>22880077
If retards like you were around, I'd pretend to be a man, too. Lmfao, and you wonder why woman don't like you.

[Anonymous No.22880207]

>>22880203
A man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man. What a world we live in.

[Anonymous No.22880212]

>>22880201
Coomer garbage kys

[Anonymous No.22880213]

>>22878613
I think the "sequel" is actually a prequel. And yes he tends to like buttrape (male and female), at least as I've seen evidenced in Between Two Fires as well. They were generally enjoyable books otherwise. You read any of his other stuff? I think he has a werewolf or vampire book I was going to try.

[Anonymous No.22880216]

>>22880207
Zero reading comprehension. As expected of /sffg/, I guess.

[Anonymous No.22880217]

>>22880203
ywnbaw

[Anonymous No.22880223]

>>22878789
Tha ks for the review, anon. Maybe I'll check this out some day.

[Anonymous No.22880251]

>>22878789
one day I'm going to download one of those programs I used to use that makes tripcodes and I'm going to reverse engineer your homosexual sffg tripcode and post it here, forcing you to abandon it in favor of a secure tripcode
you fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.22880254]

>>22878789
Jfc, we had women, then fags, then trannies, we had blacks, abos, chinks and now pajeetas ruining straight white mans sff. Science fiction and fantasy is just getting worse day by day.

[Anonymous No.22880268]

>>22880254
marry pajeet women

[Anonymous No.22880283]

Bakker is King no more, All hail your new king

[Anonymous No.22880315]

>>22878478
>like Ringworlds sex
>that wasn't weird

[Anonymous No.22880513]

Somebody tell me about the Gor series

[Anonymous No.22880521]

>>22879972
>In any other context, racial problems will exist.
and yet they don't in most sci-fi

[Anonymous No.22880528]

>>22880130
tribalism takes many forms subhuman, it doesn't revolve just around race/skin color

[Anonymous No.22880539]

Someone tell me their opinion on the Howell D. Chickering translation of Beowulf, it's the only one I've got

[Anonymous No.22880557]

>>22880223
To each their own

>>22880251
Nah, it only takes a few seconds to generate a new insecure one that's similar. It wouldn't really matter to me either way. In the worst case I can simply start directly linking them on Goodreads for verification. Do as you please.

>>22880254
It's how it goes when "straight white man" is probably in the low single digits of the world population as a percent. Even less when it's only a subset of that. As long as I enjoy what I'm reading it doesn't really matter me. It must really stressful for you, which is unfortunate.

[Anonymous No.22880563]

anyone else often find it difficult to work out whose dialogue it is when reading WOT (Jordans novels at least) or am I just low iq

[Anonymous No.22880578]

>>22880557
why don't you just fuck off to goodreads now if you want bezos cock up your ass that much

[Anonymous No.22880603]

>>22880578
It's possible to be in more than one place at a time because not everything is mutually exclusive.

[Anonymous No.22880609]

>>22880603
if your reviews are suited for goodreads then you don't belong here, you raging faggot

[Anonymous No.22880640]

>>22880609
There are almost 800 members in the Goodreads group in the OP. Hundreds have written about what they've read, some of which you'd agree with and approve. Almost none of it gets posted here. There isn't really anything I can do about that.

[Anonymous No.22880651]

>>22880640
Today, a Goodreads review I wrote in 2021 got a Like.
Feels good, man.

[Anonymous No.22880698]

>>22880651
My favorite thing about liking stuff on Goodreads, reviews mostly, though more recently having finished reading challenges since it's the end of the year, is how many mutual friends friend or follow each other soon after as a result.

[Anonymous No.22880947]

based review anon btfo bitter, seething virgins

[Anonymous No.22880963]

>>22880213
I've only read BTF from his other stuff and I liked it enough to try out blacktongue thief. I think he's a good enough author that I'll probably get around to his other stuff eventually. And yeah he's got the blacktongue thief prequel up next and I think the proper sequel after. Afaik he's only done standalones before so it'll be interesting to see what he does with a bigger world.

[Anonymous No.22881026]

Bakker bros is it me or were the fanim right all along? The hundred are evil demons.

[Anonymous No.22881034]

>>22878485
Any recs by him to start with? I like his wiki page so I'm interested.
>>22878973
It definitely has good noir elements but they aren't ham fisted. I too enjoyed the TV show but didn't finish it.
I'm going to go with Dune. Thanks. I doubt I can finish it before the new year though :(
>>22879652
No I haven't read it, this is my first novel by him, dang I was hoping he might make a continuation for veil. I will definitely have to read altered carbon.
>>22879700
Oh shit or not.
>>22880315
The initial sex scenes with the girl from earth weren't weird but the one with the bald girl was a bit.
>>22878820
I like his reviews, I wish I wrote more detailed in mine.

[Anonymous No.22881072]

>>22878436
>>22878833
Levels of filtered that shouldn't even be possible

[Anonymous No.22881115]

>>22880640
You can fuck off and never come back

[Anonymous No.22881123]

>>22881034
>but the one with the bald girl was a bit.
she was human, too but a different species. wait, till you read ringworld engineers. THEN things do go wild

[Anonymous No.22881134]

>>22881034
>Any recs by him to start with? I like his wiki page so I'm interested.

Accelerondo is canon but maybe a bit dated by now. A Colder War is short but sweet. Neptune's Brood is really fresh and fun.

[Anonymous No.22881264]

>>22879092
>the french far right's rising star is an algeria jew
are you unironically placing Zemmour on the same level as Ben Shapiro and Libs of TicTok

[Anonymous No.22881271]

>>22880119
I'd imagine we'd decide on a book each month via strawpoll, then take your time reading it among other books. End of the month discuss it in this general before deciding on the next month's book. I'd probably want to focus on classic fantasy, but I'm open to Weird and Sci-Fi if people suggest it.

[Anonymous No.22881356]

Does this fall under the "it's so bad that's it's good" category?

[Anonymous No.22881407]

>>22881271
Not that anon, but here are some questions and statements for you to consider.
1. Did you see how this went in 2018 and 2019 in thread when similar was attempted?
2. Did you see how it went afterwards in the discord server?
3. Who would be running this? When it was previously done, the guy doing so provided the books and provided questions to be responded to each time.
4. What are your expectations for engagement, both personal and for others? Previously in thread it was a couple anons responding with a couple lines to the questions asked.
5. Do you like the idea of having it more than doing it? As in it'd just be a nice thing to have going.
6. Why wouldn't you restrict the voting to those who participate? What point is there for those who aren't involved to dictate to those who are? Specifically, if a book you don't want to read, would you still participate? If not, why would others?
7. How long are you commiting yourself to leading this? If not you, why do you think someone else will?
8. What if others discuss it on other days or can't discuss it on the specific days at the end of the month? How will the discussion for be found in general?
9. There's a lot who refuse piracy and that complicates matters.
10. Do you have any previous experience?

There could be a lot more and surely I'm forgetting a lot, but it's a start.

[Anonymous No.22881504]

>>22879627
>Reverend Insanity = Literally about an a-moral bugman killing/consooming/cultivating
>Lord of The Mysteries = Hard to into asian steampunk with potion based class acquisition, achievement and crafting progression with un-lockable magical items and sekret tarot organizations because it wasn't already confusing enough.
>Neuromancer = Decent cyberspunk i'm putting together a team novel
>Hyperion = Interplanetary high tech trooning
>The Prince of Nothing = Bakker is for fags and fags are for Bakker.
>The Wandering Inn = Stay at home moms power fantasy with a main character whos most prominent power is complaining while being a pacifist.
>Between Two Fires = Heaven Vs hell but in medievil FRANCE!
>Mother of Learning = Time loop and like all of the subgenre goes literally nowhere over and over again, has a decent magic system that some find mediocre and a main characters sister that is annoying as fuck.
>Cradle = Every second novel is a dud in the series with a birdbath of a main character. Only decent thing is the fights that get stale real quick because it does not take long to realize they are all ill conceived magical games of uno.
>I Shall Seal the Heavens = Proto xianxia at its worst, MC gets kidnapped into strong but lowly down on its luck sect. Queue haughty young masters, saving face and swilling ginseng infused tiger penis soup by the gallon.
>A Song of Ice and Fire = Fantastical medieval degeneracy where the caracters who should live die and the characters who should die live. Also author is too busy getting fat and old to finish the series.
>The Poppy War = Fem-C gets accepted to 20th century china-esque martial academy and gets looked down upon while struggling to overcome amidst pseudo researched equally vintage china political bullshit.

[Anonymous No.22881516]

>>22879631
>Azarinth Healer = Starts good but fizzles hard midway. Author also makes the main character a low key lesbian because they clearly have no idea hat to do with their love life.
>Primal Hunter = MC+background is so impossibly nonsensical that he's not even cannon in his own setting.
>He Who Fights with Monsters = every character that isnt the MC is just there to be amazed at how smart Jason is while he tells them shit they already know before reminding them (incorrectly i might add) that 'Oh you have no idea".
>Dungeon Crawler Carl = The MC's sidekick (A cat named 'Princess Donut') is so much smarter than Carl (the MC) that every scene the two are in is eye-gougingly painful. This would not be so much of a problem if such scenes did not constitute the majority of the series.
>System Universe = After the initial premise is established it turns into how to pander to followers at a snails pace AKA; 'Filler McFiller Face - The Excessively Extended Sleep Inducing Saga'.
>Dissonance = MC gets god fucked more then once as he goes about becoming a man/bear/goat/pig/axolotl hybrid who also has many super sekret identities.
>Defiance of the Fall = Brain dead MC with very-much-just-barely opposed kingdom building with a wafer thin cultivation system
>Iron Prince = edgy school setting with even edgier MC who has lightning powers and no discernible challenges what so ever.

[Anonymous No.22881519]

>>22879898
I'd like to but I'd like it to be rather planned out and run smoothly like >>22881407 is guiding.
I don't know how you'd organize it/contain it other than good reads or discord.

[Anonymous No.22881542]

>>22881519
>discord ever.

[Anonymous No.22881552]

>>22881356
No it's just bad

[Anonymous No.22881565]

>>22878364
>>22878380
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>>22878436
>>22878458
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>>22881504
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.22881596]

>>22881565
I admire your dedication to shit posting anon. Truly remarkable.

[Anonymous No.22881606]

>>22881565
as long as faggots like that ape guy keep reposting their retarded litrpg reading recommendations, I hope you keep reposting this

[Anonymous No.22881649]

>>22880521
Because most sci-fi writers are liberal hacks (in this regard) that don't understand why race and racism exist, and as a result don't include it because they don't understand how to write it accurately.

[Anonymous No.22881696]

What is essential to writing an obsession with a big sister?

[Anonymous No.22881715]

>>22881696
Cowgirl forced impregnation

[Anonymous No.22881731]

this book went from confusing what the fuck is going on to kino real quick

[Anonymous No.22881768]

>>22878833
>>22878436
I love seeing faggots get filtered. This is what I live for.

[Anonymous No.22881797]

Is this any good or is it pure slop?

[Anonymous No.22881810]

>>22881768
>You got hecking filtered ur too dumb to understand the inventor of Pringles

[Anonymous No.22881816]

Library at Mount Char

[Anonymous No.22881827]

some threads it's at the mountain
some threads it's on the mountain
quantum positional library amirite ex dee

[Anonymous No.22881845]

I think women authors are great and i'm tired of pretending they are not.

[Anonymous No.22881862]

>>22881845
reddit is that way <<<<<<<

[Anonymous No.22881872]

>>22881845
why would you pretend women authors aren't great if you think they are? you people are so retarded

[Anonymous No.22881955]

>>22881862
broo... i think you just owned yourself.

[Anonymous No.22881969]

>>22881797
Peak slopcore.

[Anonymous No.22881981]

>>22881797
If you want to read the best good, the best slop, the best 6 ever in fantasy, read Dunk and Egg stories

[Anonymous No.22882048]

>>22881845
They are fucking trash

[Anonymous No.22882083]

>>22881872
It's just a figure of speech but it's still cringe, if think something and truly believe it, say it and own it, don't be a pathetic cuck with no backbone

[Anonymous No.22882200]

Any fantasy book with grooming? Like, guy takes care and grooms a catgirl to be his wife

[Anonymous No.22882213]

Any books with incest?????

[Anonymous No.22882219]

>>22882213
I know there's one with mother son incest and a whole lot of degeneracy. I forgot the name though, check the archives

[Anonymous No.22882226]

>>22878436
This caused me to laugh out loud. Love seeing retards get filtered.

[Anonymous No.22882389]

Any books with homosexual romance?

[Anonymous No.22882407]

>>22882389
no

[Anonymous No.22882440]

>>22882389
Swordspoint is good

[Anonymous No.22882460]

Any books with heterosexual romance?

[Anonymous No.22882488]

>>22878592
Thanks

[Anonymous No.22882489]

>>22879631
Just read Iron Prince, it's basically fine but it does the classic progression one two fuckup of being set in a school and also telling you where the series is going really early on.
There's got to be someone out there with the balls to write a story where it isn't just school>war with an protag whose OP by book two, it's boring.
Tournament arc also isn't great, way too many fights that don't matter get long descriptions.
The guys calling the friend being attracted to the 'misunderstood' bully character cucking are idiots but that is still by far the worst characterization in the book. Really think the author just fell in love with aria and then didn't know what to do with the existing friend so we ended up with this.
>>22882460
Sun Wolf and Starhawk is good

[Anonymous No.22882490]

Is this shit ass? I'm 70 pages in and I almost can't fucking stand this shit. This is not sci-fi or fantasy it's just boring. Does it get good? Damn even Ringworld was 10x better than this shit so far.

[Anonymous No.22882496]

>>22882490
you might be retarded

[Anonymous No.22882513]

>>22882389
Nightrunner
>>22882213
Castle Town
>>22882489
>Sun Wolf and Starhawk is good
Barbara Hambly is amazing. One of the better fantasy authors of the 80s
>>22882490
I will add Zelazny to the pasta.

[Anonymous No.22882514]

>>22882496
I see that he says he wrote it to be either fantasy or scifi but that shit is fucking lame, I've seen authors do it much better before. Vernor Vinge in particular with the zones of thought series.

It's just endless talking about new bullshit and then it's a different story about bullshit.

It's a kind of cool idea, maybe a good author should re-write it.

[Anonymous No.22882526]

>>22882514
Haha

[Anonymous No.22882576]

>>22882490
zelazny owned the original manuscript of deus irae that he co-authored with the dick himself, and had to submit it with cat piss stains

[Anonymous No.22882588]

>>22882576
Ahhh, I hate Phillip K fucking cock ass. That hack can't write shit longer than a short story without losing his mind.

Short stories are great though.

Maybe Roger is the same. Any good Roger short stories?

[Anonymous No.22882590]

>>22882588
he admits that it took him ~25 years to learn how to write a character
https://philipdick.com/mirror/websites/pkdweb/A%20SCANNER%20DARKLY.HTM

[Anonymous No.22882595]

>>22882513
>Nightrunner
Be honest, is it good?

[Anonymous No.22882634]

Any recommendations similar to Subjugation by Fel?

[Anonymous No.22882659]

Any books with lesbian romance?

[Anonymous No.22882666]

>>22882659
Sword of truth

[Anonymous No.22882674]

>>22882659
Practical Guide to Evil

[Anonymous No.22882707]

Any books with mommy daughter incest????

[Anonymous No.22882750]

>>22882659
Many are listed in the mega, there's a spreadsheet, and many other resources

[Anonymous No.22882786]

>>22882588
>That hack can't write shit longer than a short story without losing his mind.
oof, good thing i didn't buy the android book

[Anonymous No.22882798]

>>22882786
I'm sorry, that's the only good one I've read. Valis and anything connected to it sucks. Maybe some of his older novels are okay.

[Anonymous No.22882799]

>Chris Williamson's favorite book is Red Rising
weird

[Anonymous No.22882805]

(USER WAS BANNED FOR REPLYING TO HIMSELF ABOUT 30 TIMES)
>>/vt/thread/2500332#p2501590
This needs to happen here.

[Anonymous No.22882810]

>>22882798
valis is semi-autobiographical

[Anonymous No.22882813]

>>22882750
/u/ has infographics too i think for most genres.

[Anonymous No.22882820]

>>22882799
Why should anyone care what that dating show contestant turned Joe Rogan wannabe podcast grift thinks?

[Anonymous No.22882826]

>>22882810
I know, I've discussed it many times already but I am not entertained by a drug addict and his stories. I've done drugs and they aren't that fascinating to me anymore. I suppose if you are entertained by homeless people geeking out valis is cool. I'd personally rather drive a drone into PKD when he's geeking out, hell maybe someone shined a Lazer pointer in his eye when he was driving and that's why we have the valis books.

[Anonymous No.22882833]

>>22882820
he cute

[Anonymous No.22882866]

> very young protagonist

[Anonymous No.22882880]

> very hung protagonist

[Anonymous No.22882938]

>very Jung protagonist

[Anonymous No.22882948]

>very tasty pomegranate

[Anonymous No.22882958]

>>22882938
>Servicing individuals, couples, groups. Satisfaction guaranteed.

[Anonymous No.22882961]

>>22882805
/lit/ jannies aren't cool enough

[Anonymous No.22882990]

What makes an urban fantasy fun?

[Anonymous No.22883004]

>>22882990
>it's like fantasy but the hot vampire guy wants ME and mexican food and heckin' blackerinos

[Anonymous No.22883021]

>>22882990
Best vehicle for low fantasy or earth with magic settings.

[Anonymous No.22883033]

>>22883004
>How I Met My Vampire Husband At A Mexican Food Truck

[Anonymous No.22883069]

>>22882990
Reality with a twist is fun on occasion, easy to get immersed when the world is one you're inherently familiar with.

[Anonymous No.22883075]

>>22883033
Sounds like a doujin, a western novel would be something like The Taco of Desire

[Anonymous No.22883085]

>>22882990
That it's the one I am writing. Stay tuned

[Anonymous No.22883199]

>>22882490
Yeah I couldn't do it. I looks like I made it 14% before giving up.

[Anonymous No.22883218]

>>22883075
Most of popular romance literature that talking vaginas read is a not!doujin. They love the beastman meta.

[Anonymous No.22883303]

>>22883218
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.22883337]

>>22883303
just don't look at popular romance titles on amazon

[Anonymous No.22883397]

read mao ni not this crap

[Anonymous No.22883403]

>>22881810
This but unironically. Atheists will never understand the Catholic mysteries of Pringles

[Anonymous No.22883404]

>>22883397
why is cover art so tacky nowadays?
not just fantasy, books in general are like this

[Anonymous No.22883406]

>>22883404

[Anonymous No.22883427]

>>22883406
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1574240/Dread_Delusion/

[Anonymous No.22883560]

>the scene where Mimara forgives her rapist because she sees what awaits him in hell

[Anonymous No.22883631]

>>22883406
I own this. Excellent book, but truly grim cover art.

[Anonymous No.22883679]

I started reading the Gormenghast series because I've seen it referred to as god-tier old fantasy. I'm a third of the way through the first book. I get what it's going for so far, and I'm not really enjoying it, but it seems like I'm still in the the introductory phase for the setting and characters. Does it pick up later with the Titus PoV? I'll probably finish it either way.

[Anonymous No.22883805]

I read glimpses from the nightrunner series, is there any hope or am I just a faggot?

[Anonymous No.22884074]

>>22883805
>The books also explores sexuality and gender roles, presenting a world where bi- and homosexuality are as accepted as heterosexuality, as well as a realm (Skala) which is ruled by Queens rather than Kings, and in whose army women warriors have a major role.

[Anonymous No.22884159]

>>22883679
The second book is better than TG, but honestly if you're not enjoying the first then I don't think you'll like Gormenghast. What about it is not doing it for you?

[Anonymous No.22884304]

>>22884074
It's all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.22884406]

So I'm at 30% of the last book of the 3 body problem and I can't believe that women keep being given responsibility and THEY KEEP FUCKING IT UP.
WOMEN KEEP LETTING ALIENS WIN.

Women want the end of humanity. I'm thinking this is also true in real life.

Women would probably be too shit to do anything in real life as well. That's why all the far right women of Europe never do anything after getting elected. They tighten up some laws but they never do what they said they would.

[Anonymous No.22884431]

Any books similar to All Tomorrows?

[Anonymous No.22884436]

>>22884431
Last and First Men by Olaf Stapledon

[Anonymous No.22884462]

how would you cook this down to a 2 hour movie?
and no you can't make it a fucking tv show

[Anonymous No.22884483]

>>22884436
Thanks anon I'll look into it

[Anonymous No.22884518]

>>22882799
It's a really enjoyable series. People get filtered by the second half of the first book being slop, but I think the author had to do that to get published. Everything else about is really fast paced and evocative.

[Anonymous No.22884574]

>>22884074
What in the name of fuck

[Anonymous No.22884694]

Thoughts on urban fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22884720]

>>22884304
>>22884574
and?

[Anonymous No.22884739]

>>22884720
I am sorry that you have been desensitized to degeneracy from young age.

[Anonymous No.22884743]

>>22884739
i am sorry you're a bitter chud

[Anonymous No.22884782]

I wasn't that impressed by it

[Anonymous No.22884853]

>>22884462
Scale back the human backstory and just give you the synopsis. Focus more on what happens in space.

>I like kids. Oh god, I REALLY like kids.

[Anonymous No.22884887]

Redpill me on Ryan Cahill's The Bound and the Broken please

[Anonymous No.22885000]

>>22884518
>People get filtered by the second half of the first book being slop
Lmfao...

[Anonymous No.22885097]

>>22882213
to sail beyond the sunset

[Anonymous No.22885310]

>>22882389
The Steel Remains. Homo as fuck but great fantasy read.

[Anonymous No.22885332]

>>22878436
Agree fully. He's a character for edgy cringebois and always has been. Basically fedora types wet dream.

[Anonymous No.22885377]

>>22882490
>>22883199
Finished it.

3/5. I'd say it's on the same level as ring world but 'lord of light' by Roger zelanzyzyysyey has a much worse first 100 pages.

It has non-linear story telling which I don't mind, it's a good pick for the story but that doesn't excuse the first 100 pages.

It is not a sci-fi book or a fantasy book, it's slipstream. The first 100 pages are the worst about that, they won't fucking cough up any details on how the world actually works behind the scenes.

There are 3 page long dialogues by a single character, there are pages of back and forth conversation with no indication of who is talking (I'm sure this could be bad for some people, if you really hate it, listen to the audiobook as you read, that fixes all of it.)

There are long long monologues especially toward the beginning where it's just pseudo philosophy stuff.

The story reminds me more of a fable, religious text, or ancient story rather than a fucking novel at times. It has influences from Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, and even has references to the monkey King journey to the east or whatever at the end. All of that is cool.

I am not completely unaware of the hindu gods and some of the stories, but I wouldn't say I know them, if someone started telling me them I could probably guess the gods name involved. If I lovedddd that shit or atleast knew more of it, this book would have been better, but still it has other faults not originating from my lack of background knowledge.

I almost DNF'd it so many times during the first 100 pages, I am not even particularly happy I finished it to be honest. I find it was an 'okay' novel, I see why some people would love it and I am not saying it's objectively bad but it definitely wasn't great for me.

Does it deserve to be called the greatest science fiction novel of all time like I have seen a few times? Fuck no, you are smoking dicks.

The whole story wraps up very quickly at the end too. Sort of in a rush.

Should you read it? Idk, maybe try it.

[Anonymous No.22885407]

>>22884743
You are beta chud, I am a Based Chad.

[Anonymous No.22885426]

>>22884743
>>22885407
both of you are newfags lol!

[Anonymous No.22885443]

>>22885426
Today is my first day on /sffg/, /lit/, 4chan and internet and I've been here longer than you.

[Anonymous No.22885446]

>>22885443
xD

[Anonymous No.22885458]

Any Malazan readers here?? Are the Ian C Esselmont books important for a first time read or should I not bother with them??

[Anonymous No.22885581]

>>22882595
Yes, the romance it's only a subplot, the main story is just to bros doing Mage and spy stuff (and having sex with each other)

[Anonymous No.22885602]

>>22885581
>>22884074
>which is ruled by Queens rather than Kings, and in whose army women warriors have a major role
Oh yes one of the main characters gets raped by a countess old enough to be his mom, also femdom is considered normal vanilla sex there lol

[Anonymous No.22885620]

its the wheel of time /lit/ approved?

[Anonymous No.22885625]

>>22885620
See>>22881565

[Anonymous No.22885627]

>>22885620
Sure, it's a rite of passage to read it all.

[Anonymous No.22885705]

>>22885620
Lol no. The quality to page count ratio is horrendous. Fantasy readers desperately need to broaden their horizons instead of devoting years of their lives to reading these never-ending potboiler artifacts.

[Anonymous No.22885739]

>>22885620
yeah
>>22885705
>he took years to read the wheel of time
skill issue

[Anonymous No.22885749]

>>22878295
Bakker is king.

[Anonymous No.22885759]

>>22885749
based.com

[Anonymous No.22885778]

>>22884887
Greatest indi book written

[Anonymous No.22885781]

>>22882213
Game of thrones

[Anonymous No.22885810]

>>22885458
don't bother

[Anonymous No.22885875]

>>22885377
I'm actually somewhat familiar with Hinduism, but that didn't help much. I was reading with a friend, but neither of us could do it. Good to hear I didn't miss out much.

[Anonymous No.22885924]

>>22885620
You should ask them. This is /sffg/ after all.

[Anonymous No.22885933]

>>22885377
i guess it depends on the person, for me it's the opposite. all the philosophical stuff and the weird setting that you get inmersed into without any explaining is the best part of the book for me, and then figuring it out little by little

>but still it has other faults not originating from my lack of background knowledge.
why do you think lack of knowledge is an issue? not knowing the hinduism lore or whatever doesn't matter, it's explained who each character is. if anything it would be worse because you'd see how it simplifies and breaks the actual lore

[Anonymous No.22885939]

>>22878436
Hey don't insult the barista's shiny. It's heckin' deep and you just got le filtered xd!

[Anonymous No.22886109]

>>22885933
It's like Ringworld, I want to know what the fuck is going on, and it takes forever, and then when they do explain some of it, it's not as cool as I hoped.

I think the whole idea could be much more entertaining, but Roger had his own vision, and that's fine.

I think it'd be more interesting to see how they have changed and modified the pantheon along with I'm sure there are allusions and similarities I missed because I am not deeply knowledgeable on that religion. I saw many Christian allusions and even it felt like some for scientology.

Infact, I wanted to discuss the relation to scientology more. I wonder if anyone has explored that angle or thought of it. The energy being shit, the mind probe and karmic system.

The founders lying to everyone even the new Gods to some degree.

And in relation to breaking the 'actual lore', isn't that sort of the point? The characters are reenacting Hinduism for their own benefit. It would never be a complete and accurate retelling of the stories.

And as for the philosophical stuff, yeah I don't mind it and even can enjoy it in a book when it's good, the problem was it was somewhat front loaded and shoved at me before I should care about the book.

The weird setting is awesome, like I said, I'd have rather explored the setting in a more 'hard scifi' novel or something, I guess Roger is new wave like PKD and doesn't like doing that sort of stuff but I wanted to stick around and explore the world.

[Anonymous No.22886141]

>>22885620
this isn't outer /lit/, this is /sffg/, we are our own community here.

WoT has its fans here, and its detractors, so you won't be able to crowdsource the decision because plenty of people will be telling you it's worth your time and others insist it isn't.

Make up your own damn mind, grow some taste already.

[Anonymous No.22886155]

>>22882805
That would require for this board to have moderation, let alone this thread.

[Anonymous No.22886218]

Finished Warrior Prophet. Why exactly does Serwe keep having blue stillborn babies?

[Anonymous No.22886227]

>>22886155
>mo-mo-mo-mo-mo-MODERATION!!!!
piss off back to redit tranny

[Anonymous No.22886231]

>>22886227
what does you coming to 4chan after 2016 have to do with sci-fi and fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22886236]

>>22886227
Yes, moderation, something that several boards on this site actually have. Not that you'd know, since you're a tourist and a newfag.

[Anonymous No.22886253]

>>22886231
I came here to eradicate pozzed trash like you.
Make /sffg/ Great Again.

[Anonymous No.22886256]

>>22886253
what does you coming to 4chan after 2016 have to do with sci-fi and fantasy?

[Anonymous No.22886264]

>>22886236
Go to redit, 4chan culture is to little to no moderation. As an oldfag you should know that

[Anonymous No.22886266]

>>22886264

[Anonymous No.22886284]

>>22886256
See >>22886253

[Anonymous No.22886293]

>>22886256
>>22886284
owned

[Anonymous No.22886295]

Is this "your reviews are shit" ritualposter sperging out?

[Anonymous No.22886356]

>>22886295
Unless he's the other spammer nah
idk why but this particular guy shits up the thread intentionally and then gets mad when its pointed out

[Anonymous No.22886397]

>>22886356
>this particular guy shits up the thread intentionally and then gets mad when its pointed out
that's just how newfags behave. they act like bots, every single one of them running off the same programming.

[Anonymous No.22886429]

Just finished Neuromancer. Had a strong finish but the middle was a bit of a slog. Are the other 2 books worth reading if I found the first book just good but not great? Does it get any better? I'm not attached to Case or Molly.

[Anonymous No.22886463]

>>22886429
See >>22881565
Sneed

[Anonymous No.22886514]

Any books with hairy, sweaty, smelly women?

[Anonymous No.22886520]

>>22878436
Severian is a useful idiot. You've seen his many flaws and contradictions and then assumed this is because the author is an edgy manchild and is self-inserting his edgy manchild ideal like a teenager writing his first fanfiction.
That's understandable if all you've read is fanfiction-tier garbage, but Gene Wolfe is a celebrated author. You have to hesitate and think a little harder before assuming he just writes the sloppiest slop imaginable.
Anon, you're an idiot who thinks he's smart. The sooner you get humble and realize your limitations, the sooner you'll stop embarrassing yourself (I am replying to a very embarrassing post).

[Anonymous No.22886546]

>>22886514
Firekeeper Saga

[Anonymous No.22886547]

Isn't there something like a end of the year thread where we post a list of our read books of 2023?

[Anonymous No.22886563]

>>22886547
I don't keep track of everything I read since I do a lot of rereading in any given year, I'd just list the new titles.

[Anonymous No.22886575]

>>22886264
>4chan culture is to little to no moderation
lol, the opposite is true. Old 4chan was pretty heavily moderated because the site was much smaller and easier for a small group of mods to tard wrangle. Else the slow boards would've just been spammed to death with CP. It's only after the site got so huge that they had to create multiple layers of spam protection that moderation dropped off a cliff on most of the boards, now only the larger boards receive frequent moderation attention.

[Anonymous No.22886587]

>>22886547
I stopped tracking because goodreads recommendations go from vaguely useful to unusable the moment you log anything that's either self-pub or just obscure.
So now I just use GR to try and curate recommendations

[Anonymous No.22886618]

>>22886587
What are you talking about? I just made a Topstar list of the books I read in 2023

[Anonymous No.22886621]

>>22886547
Besides goodreads I've got a txt doc of everything I've read this year

[Anonymous No.22886627]

>>22882805
That's kinda based but why are you on /vt/? You a stupid tranny?

[Anonymous No.22886639]

>>22886621
But why isn't there a thread for that? Is it forbidden?

[Anonymous No.22886659]

>>22886639
I mean you could just make one and see if it picks up traction? Or next sffg general make a post early and see if anons here reply.

[Anonymous No.22886762]

What are some sci-fi novels with universes that don't feel like the author's country of origin but in space? I've been to Kenya and it feels weird reading about aliens that feel less alien than normies from another continent.

[Anonymous No.22886803]

>>22884720
and I'm not going to buy anything like that
it's just not going to happen. white men built your whole fucking world and you take us for granted every single day. you won't take my money too.

[Anonymous No.22886816]

>>22886575
>Else the slow boards would've just been spammed to death with CP
actioning federally illegal material is not exactly the same as moderating a community so that they stay on topic, or to maintain a freedom oriented ethos. also, I believe 4chan was compromised by the feds around 2010 which is quite a bit after "old" 4chan.

[Anonymous No.22886832]

>>22886803
Based af

[Anonymous No.22886913]

>>22884782
me neither
i thought the second book was even worse, and gave up halfway through

[Anonymous No.22886932]

>>22886803
>you won't take my money too.
okay??

[Anonymous No.22886948]

>>22886932
>>>/twitter/

[Anonymous No.22886952]

>>22886948
you started it

[Anonymous No.22886954]

>>22886952
correct, straight white men started modern society

[Anonymous No.22886955]

Perrin and Faile be like

[Anonymous No.22886959]

>>22886955
most sane Latina

[Anonymous No.22886971]

>>22886959
If Robert Jordan knows what he's talking about, you have to yell back at them. And perhaps even spank them from time to time. Show them you're strong enough to handle them.

[Anonymous No.22887002]

>>22886803
>>22886954
>Book written by queers for queers
>"I'm a straight white man and..."
Irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.22887012]

>>22886955
i like to imagine faile as a central asian lady

[Anonymous No.22887025]

>>22887012
I imagine her as Vicki Chase

[Anonymous No.22887045]

>>22887025
>look up vicki chase
>porn artist
:|

[Anonymous No.22887053]

>>22887045
>>22887012
>>22887025
>Look up central asian lady
>None of them have Faile's distinctive beak nose.
>Look up Vicki Chase
>She's kind of fugly.
Both of you could have done better. I'll just stick to the image that's in my mind's eye, thank you very much. It's a lot better than whatever the fuck you guys are imagining.

[Anonymous No.22887061]

>>22887053
central asians have slanted eyes but are mixed with iranians so they have some middle eastern traits. there must be some women there with beak noses like iranian women have. actually i did saw one once from afghanistan but i don't remember her name

i also thought about imagining her as sophia boutella but she has no beak nose and i had already been picturing her as central asian

[Anonymous No.22887067]

>>22887045
>artist

[Anonymous No.22887156]

>The Anora led them to a pinched mountain pass that stood at the mouth of a long, deep-set valley. Atop the mountain to the left of the pass was a ruined watchtower built in the elven style, with no path or road that led to its dark walls, and Murtagh knew it and spoke its name in the ancient language: Ristvak’baen, or Place of Sorrow. He felt both sorrow and revulsion, for it was there, in that tower, that Galbatorix had slain Vrael, leader of the Riders, following the great battle on Vroengard Island. That event, more than any, had marked the Riders’ downfall.
>Galbatorix had bragged of the fight more than once. Murtagh could see him still, sprawled across the fur-draped chair in his banquet hall, his harsh, eagle-like features lit by the flames from the long fireplace set within one wall, eyes burning with unsavory delight as he recounted how he had felled Vrael with a kick betwixt the legs.
Is kicking someone in the balls a valid way to take over a continent?

[Anonymous No.22887264]

>>22887156
kek I haven't read murtagh yet. that's honestly pretty bad and it seems like paolini hasn't really grown as an author since he finished inheritance. I guess he's just too autistic.

[Anonymous No.22887294]

>>22887264
He's gotten much better at dialogue, prose and worldbuilding but still has the odd moment of autism like Galbatorix telling stories about the time he kicked Vrael in the nuts, Murtagh seething immensely every time he hears Eragon being hero worshipped and getting all the credit, and Paolini getting GRRM-tier invested in how Murtagh is bashing up turnips for a soup because he's a poorfag
There's actually a pretty kino scene where Murtagh revisits Gilead and another one where he goes swimming and finds the corpses of thousands of Galbatorix's soldiers the elves pushed into the lake

[Anonymous No.22887318]

I actually just recently found my very old hardcover duo box set of Eragon and Eldest. Worth a read after who knows how many years? I don't think I ever finished Brisingr when it came out so I am semi curious.

[Anonymous No.22887365]

>>22887318
those books were deviantart-tier back then, i wouldn't be surprised if they are now considered hidden gems because books are now worss

[Anonymous No.22887367]

>>22887294
You know that "harry potter is the dullest franchise" copypasta? The one where that goes:

"The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing.

I recently reread the Inheritance cycle and I noticed the same thing about the phrase "X pointed out" instead of "said" and using phrases like "it was not my intention to cause offense". He uses like 10 words where one would suffice.
>Murtagh seething immensely every time he hears Eragon being hero worshipped and getting all the credit
Lol that sounds retarded and insufferable. But I guess he had to have some conflict to resolve.
>Paolini getting GRRM-tier invested in how Murtagh is bashing up turnips for a soup because he's a poorfag
Uh he can just fucking use magic though? Did Nasuada go full autocrat and clamp down on magic or some shit? Just hunt with magic or some shit lmao.

[Anonymous No.22887372]

>>22887318
They're okay if you don't expect too much as an adult experienced in reading fantasy.

[Anonymous No.22887380]

>>22884720
And nothing. It's tiresome.

[Anonymous No.22887409]

>>22886429
Read some of the Burning Chrome short stories if you haven't read much William Gibson before.

It'll give you a low risk opportunity to see if you like more of his writing style.

[Anonymous No.22887415]

>>22887012
She was, the Saldineans were a mixture of Mongolians and colonial era English.

[Anonymous No.22887434]

tfw
>want to buy a whole book series
>books 1-3 are buyable for 10 bucks each, new
>Book 4 isn't buyable
>5-7 Buyable for the same price
>Book 8 is 25 bucks
what kind of logic is that?

[Anonymous No.22887442]

>>22887434
Jew logic, to keep you coming back to the same store to try and find what you're missing.

[Anonymous No.22887446]

>>22887434
They are all available for free on the internet

[Anonymous No.22887452]

>>22887442
but I can't even buy book 4 on the internet.

[Anonymous No.22887473]

>>22887367
OG inheritance is home to unfiltered Paolini autism before he started talking to girls
>that scene where eragon watches his elf master wash his hairless dick and balls
>that time roran kills 200 men and then gets publicly whipped for insubordination by the leader of his army
>that time eragon shows roran his bruised dick
>that time roran and an urgal strip naked, rub themselves in oil and start wrestling
>that scene where eragon daydreams about having an apple tree planted on his grave so his family and friends could eat his body
>that time towards the end of the series where saphira and firnen are having dragon sex and eragon and arya, who are mentally linked to this, sit and chat

[Anonymous No.22887501]

>>22887012
I always pictured her as more middle eastern or maybe iranian the sa'sara in particular was likely inspired by belly dances of some sort and people of that region have long been know for their light cavalry and curved swords.
>>22887415
Whats your source? Other than "I made it up" of course.

[Anonymous No.22887516]

>>22887415
mongols are too asian looking
saldaeans are variously described as having slanted eyes, thick mustaches and/or beards, and iirc swarthy (or at least i don't remember any saldean being described as light skinned) with random redheads like sheriam
i think it fits central asia quite nicely although of course the cultures in the book aren't a 1-to-1 correspondence
>and people of that region have long been know for their light cavalry and curved swords.
true and many saldaeans have vaguely islamic or mena sounding names

[Anonymous No.22887518]

>>22887415
>>22887501
mongols are too asian looking
saldaeans are variously described as having slanted eyes, thick mustaches and/or beards, and iirc swarthy (or at least i don't remember any saldean being described as light skinned) with random redheads like sheriam
i think it fits central asia quite nicely although of course the cultures in the book aren't a 1-to-1 correspondence
>and people of that region have long been know for their light cavalry and curved swords.
true and many saldaeans have vaguely islamic or mena sounding names

[Anonymous No.22887719]

>>22887473
the naked elf bathing scene was pretty weird

[Anonymous No.22887739]

>>22887719
it's just like my japanese light novel

[Anonymous No.22887759]

>>22887473
I dropped the series with Brisingr and I can't tell if you're bullshitting. I'm going to savour the uncertainty.

[Anonymous No.22887780]

>>22887473
I read all 3 books and half of that stuff is made up.

[Anonymous No.22887961]

Any good reads with perseverance as a theme?
I like the theme of suffering builds character and like characters who get dragged down to new lows and proceed to come out of it stronger.

[Anonymous No.22887988]

>>22887961
Reverend Insanity

[Anonymous No.22887992]

>>22887961
Kind of the whole basis of Rand's character arc in Wheel of Time.

[Anonymous No.22888003]

>>22887961
realm of the elderlings

[Anonymous No.22888014]

>>22887961
>implying coming out stronger is the point of perseverance

read The Old man and the Sea

[Anonymous No.22888019]

>>22887988
Not really big on eastern themes/settings. Thank you though.
>>22887992
Already read wheel of time and was kinda what got me into looking for more.
>>22888003
Never read this. Gonna give it a go.

[Anonymous No.22888023]

>>22888014
I hate fish

[Anonymous No.22888119]

Buy?

[Anonymous No.22888338]

What is a decent example of a "villain protagonist"?

[Anonymous No.22888375]

>>22888338
Worm is a good story that fits the label well enough.
Prince of Thorns is a bad story that fits the label perfectly.
Prince of Nothing is a good story that fits the label pretty well.
Death Note
Lolita probably but I haven't read it.

I also want stories with villain protagonist, but there aren't so that many and almost every story people recommend when you ask this isn't actually an example which pisses me the fuck off.

[Anonymous No.22888405]

>>22886803
>Not buying
>Market shifts to third world/normieslop demographics
Rip bozo

[Anonymous No.22888418]

>>22888014
What is the point then?

[Anonymous No.22888468]

New !!!

>>22888465
>>22888465
>>22888465