/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.22847939]

Never Follow Sexy Faeries into a Forest, Edition.

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs)
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/guIyhAzS
>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg
>Goodreads
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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[Anonymous No.22847941]

first for zyzz

[Anonymous No.22847967]

How does Wizard Knight stack up against Gene Wolfe's other works? I read it a few years ago and didn't really feel that invested in it. Wondering if it's worth checking out his other stuff or if he's maybe just not for me.

[Anonymous No.22847998]

What are the chances there are new sci-fi and fantasy masterpieces out there right now, but they were lost in the flood of self published works? Ya ever thought about that, hmm? There are many great authors who weren't discovered until long after their deaths ya know.

[Anonymous No.22848033]

>>22847998
You're missing out Chinese masterpieces that won't ever be properly translated.

[Anonymous No.22848052]

>>22848033
>Chinese
>masterpiece
Pick one Chang.

[Anonymous No.22848076]

>>22848052
>misses the joke

[Anonymous No.22848084]

>>22848076
>joke

[Anonymous No.22848138]

>>22847939
AIslop is becoming too powerful

[Anonymous No.22848179]

I hate prideful characters in fantasy. They're so annoying.

[Anonymous No.22848222]

I need fantasy recommendations in the following specific niches:

>court intrigue with female assassins
>one PoV character is pursuing / investigating another PoV character without knowing their identity
>magic school shenanigans
>meteoric rise of a military genius
>ninjas

Stories should feature at least one niche in a big way. Not necessarily as the main focus, but not like one brief mention.

Already read:
>Black Magician
>Name of the Wind + sequel
>Daughter of the Empire trilogy
>pretty much every major epic fantasy series by a big name author
>bunch of Vance stuff
>Wolfe stuff

[Anonymous No.22848223]

>Sev was fucking his grandma
wtf gene?

[Anonymous No.22848229]

>>22848074
this genuinely might be the most retarded post I've ever seen in this thread, calling scifi realistic lol

[Anonymous No.22848241]

>>22848222
Oh yeah: don't bother recommending me Wuxia / chinese crap. I find it unreadable, sorry.

[Anonymous No.22848264]

Sanderson's current publication schedule
December 2024: Wind and Truth
December 2025: White Sand Novel
December 2026: Horneater
December 2027: TBD
December 2028: Ghostbloods 1
Summer 2029: Elantris 2
December 2029: Ghostbloods 2
Summer 2030: Elantris 3
December 2030: Ghostbloods 3

[Anonymous No.22848273]

>>22848222
>xianxia = bad
>cuckkiller = good
>>22848264
>elantris sequels pushed back to the end of the decade
>still no Nightblood
lmao I believe it. the cosmere will never be completed

[Anonymous No.22848324]

>>22848273
>xianxia = bad
>cuckkiller = good
I said I read it, I didn't offer any opinion on it. I found the sequel to be a waste of time, and even if he wrote the third one I doubt I'd bother. Not sure why you posted that pic since I already said I read it. Who are you posting it for?

[Anonymous No.22848329]

>>22848264
>only 1 novel a year
Yeah I doubt it.

[Anonymous No.22848345]

>>22847998
>There are many great authors who weren't discovered until long after their deaths ya know.
Shitty 21st century meme.

[Anonymous No.22848360]

>>22847967
It's Book of the New Sun-lite, but BotNS doesn't have a section about giant politics in the middle that overstays it's welcome. Read The Fifth Head of Cerberus. It's not very long and if you don't like it then you probably don't like Wolfe.

[Anonymous No.22848386]

I hate the forced hypermasculine protagonists in my self indulgent coomer slop.
>self insert protag is a gigachad who owns everyone and get the women
No problem.
>self insert protag is an average guy with nothing much on his plate but also get the women
No, you can't do that.
Both are wish fulfilment anyway, so I don't understand why people hate the second option so much

[Anonymous No.22848413]

>>22848329
> Well, if you didn’t see my video concluding the Year of Sanderson, I think it is time to slow down. That’s an idea contrary to the way business normally works—every corporation is always focused on growing bigger and keeping customers spending money. That’s never been the way I see things though.

https://www.brandonsanderson.com/state-of-the-sanderson-2023/

[Anonymous No.22848414]

>>22848386
I hate how so many series are sl gynocentric in the way you described. Either its being a gigachad to get women or just having women throw themselves at a bland protagonist. Shit sucks, women are boring and i don't want to read about them.

[Anonymous No.22848421]

>>22848222
>magic school shenanigans
Mask of the Sorcerer. nice trips but check these quads

[Anonymous No.22848449]

>>22848414
this guy gets it

[Anonymous No.22848485]

how did /sff/ react when ursula k le guin died in 2018?

[Anonymous No.22848515]

>>22848052
stfu racist

[Anonymous No.22848526]

>>22848485
>>/lit/thread/10576746#p10577477

[Anonymous No.22848561]

>>22848515
Go ahead make another post about Reverend Insanity Chang, I know you're close to bursting a blood vessel hold it back.

[Anonymous No.22848585]

>>22848561
My name is cheng not chang

[Anonymous No.22848614]

>>22848585
Ni Hao bugman!

[Anonymous No.22848644]

>>22848449
>>22848414
quite gay

[Anonymous No.22848666]

Might have to drop the Aspie-Emperor after realizing it's a pro-Gnostic and anti-Christian text.

Achamian being called a Gnostic wizard is the biggest red flag.

[Anonymous No.22848718]

>>22848264
>December 2025: White Sand Novel
Finally, I really disliked the comic format of this story.
Still, no Warbreaker 2......

[Anonymous No.22848744]

>>22848718
just read the 20 year old white sand prose

[Anonymous No.22848759]

Any Malazan readers here? Are the Ian C Esselmont books important for a first time read or should I not bother with them??

[Anonymous No.22848764]

>>22848561

[Anonymous No.22848799]

>>22848759
I read them in publication order, switching back and forth, but I don't think it's that important. He's a worse writer (though he gets better) and it can ruin the flow a little.
They help plug a few holes in the lore, but there's so much of it you won't miss a few. There's one character death that I couldn't believe was in a spin-off, that might leave you scratching your head when it gets mentioned in the Erikson books, but that's all I can think of.

[Anonymous No.22849015]

>>22847998
0%. You need to be a genius to write a masterpiece and these days geniuses do something else instead of chasing dead mediums and genres.

Can you imagine Heinlein, Tolkien, Asimov etc actually sitting down in 2023 and writing old fashioned books lmao

[Anonymous No.22849073]

>>22849015
>Can you imagine Tolkien
Yes.

[Anonymous No.22849089]

What modern fantasy/weird magazines are worth reading, if any?

[Anonymous No.22849246]

>>22849073
He'd be an e-celeb

[Anonymous No.22849247]

>>22847998
Do you have any idea how many books were published in the past which are simply lost to time?

[Anonymous No.22849276]

>>22849247
under 1000

[Anonymous No.22849278]

I am so very gay lads

[Anonymous No.22849295]

Terrible thread, this.

[Anonymous No.22849372]

>>22848138
I legitimately don't see the issue with it if no-one is charging money for it and using it purely for meme's but where i draw the line is LLM's to write, hell even the prolific use of grammarly pisses me off a bit.

[Anonymous No.22849383]

>>22849372
My issue is ai posters have no taste, unfunny and so they post gross and unfunny art as low effort shitposts, usually with the worst takes possible. I'm talking about you.

[Anonymous No.22849392]

>>22849383
Taste is subjective.

[Anonymous No.22849410]

>>22848561
Buck. Broken.

[Anonymous No.22849736]

Eddison is filtering me. His prose is surprisingly dense and flowery, feels like he never gets to the point.

[Anonymous No.22849767]

>>22849392
It's not.

[Anonymous No.22849939]

>>22848222
>magic school shenanigans
>meteoric rise of a military genius
The Poppy War should fit these 2, but I hear it's garbage.

[Anonymous No.22849960]

>>22848222
>female assassins
I want this, with or without death by snu snu

[Anonymous No.22850053]

>>22849736
Eddison is clear and direct compared to Night Land

[Anonymous No.22850108]

>>22847825
LOTR and Narnia would qualify under both definitions as far as I'm concerned, yes.
>>22847857
The point is Current Year. Where one draws a line is obviously going to vary from person to person, but the further one moves back from Current Year the more likely something considered progressive at the time might be considered conservative or neutral in tone by readers now. If you're looking for a more objective definition, that's a fool's errand when the entire point of the first definition I gave was to be a purely practical "this is what the people asking for it generally want" thing. It could be shortened to "something they find un-pozzed, and they know it when they see it" but you'd probably find that even less satisfying.
>>22847867
If anything my definitions are far too nebulous and broad (though I think that's unavoidable). re: the other part of what you're saying, hard to believe that's your takeaway on how I think if you actually read my post. Read this again: "obviously what exactly qualifies will vary from person to person the same way people disagree on what genuine 'progressive fantasy' is."

My point was that people draw the line in different places, have different ideas of what constitutes "progressive/conservative enough" ideas and values, etc. Best one can do is point at things which on average will be viewed as one or the other. The definitions were also very content-focused and have very little to do with people liking or disliking a work — plenty of liberals like Narnia, plenty of conservatives like sf/f with broadly progressive attitudes. People only seem to really loathe the other side's fiction when it's shit, extremely aggressive in presentation of its ideology, or doesn't have much meat to it aside from the ideological purpose.

[Anonymous No.22850126]

>>22849383
So nearly indistinguishable from most drawfags and digital artists online, then.

[Anonymous No.22850127]

>>22850053
Eh, disagree. Night Land is much clearer. It just has faux archaic diction but that doesn't trip me up at all.
Eddison is a lot more tedious and enamoured with description. I know it's a skill issue but god damn he makes it hard to care about the story he's telling, I barely have any idea what it's about - what I can look forward to.

[Anonymous No.22850145]

[Anonymous No.22850203]

>>22849015
what do you think they'd be doing?

[Anonymous No.22850252]

I was browsing the Hugo Awards page last night when I couldn't sleep and I found out this Nora Keita Jemisin chick won the Best Novel award three years in a row. Now, the surprising thing is that in all my years browsing /lit/ or following literary circles I've never heard of her before despite being so critically acclaimed.

[Anonymous No.22850278]

>>22850252
You must be fucking new. Nk jemisin and the fifth season has been shilled here by several trannies and antiwhite posters numerous times.

[Anonymous No.22850295]

>>22850252
Not surprising at all. Genre fiction discussion on /lit/ was non-existent before /v/ and /tv/ started useingthe board to discuss books they'd happen to read.

[Anonymous No.22850327]

>>22850278
what is anti-white about it?

[Anonymous No.22850334]

>>22850252
Barely anyone cares about any Hugos after 2010. It's mostly people in the same clique voting for each other.

[Anonymous No.22850374]

>>22850327
Promotion of anti white authors and anti white narrative

[Anonymous No.22850391]

>>22850327
I've read quite a few fantasy novel rankings that list this book near the top if not as the #1 fantasy novel of all time. And the diversity factor is always the first "quality" mentioned. It is quite literally pushed because it's the antiwhite thing to do.

[Anonymous No.22850396]

>>22850374
what has the author do or say that is anti-white?

[Anonymous No.22850397]

>>22850374
Such as?

[Anonymous No.22850414]

>>22850396
>>22850397
Anti white authors support blm, support feminism, discriminate white men, support lgbt, support race mixing (blacks men with white women), support cucking. All of this is reflecred in their writings

[Anonymous No.22850422]

>>22850414
>All of this is reflecred in their writings
wtf i guess i'll just have to read her books now

[Anonymous No.22850431]

>>22850278
>>22850295
how funny, according to the archive, the last time someone mentioned her was 21 days ago
in fact, she was mentioned two or three times per month during the last year

[Anonymous No.22850453]

>>22850334
It's literally been that since it began.

[Anonymous No.22850475]

>>22850414
How is anti-white people reflected in her writing

[Anonymous No.22850515]

>>22850475
The main characters are described as black and the villains are described as "paper" white. The good race/ethnicity with magic powers are described as black and the evil ones as black.

[Anonymous No.22850559]

>>22850515
>the good magicians are black
>the evil magicians are black

[Anonymous No.22850617]

Patiently waiting for Ryun to ether the Unchained's magical flying mountain off the fucking map.

[Anonymous No.22850626]

>>22850453
Technically I suppose so, but at least before the Hugos could claim some connection to the SFF readership at large. These days nobody cares.
There was a big spike in interest during the whole Puppies spergout, but other than that it's a pretty clear decline.

[Anonymous No.22850707]

>>22850327
I've only read the first one. There's nothing anti-white about it unless you think like a /pol/tard. It was pretty good. Based on what I've heard of the sequels it wasn't so good as to deserve 3 Hugos in a row, but it probably rightfully won the first.
It's certainly more deserving than anything Scalzi has ever written.

[Anonymous No.22850801]

>>22850626
It only could claim connection to the readership at large when there was a relatively tiny readership that was mostly a single clique. The first one was given out in 1953. For a lot of the early years there were literally no rules. Anyone who showed up to Worldcon could vote. It's always been about the people who go to the convention.

[Anonymous No.22850847]

AHHHH IT'S TIME TO RETURN TO THE BLACK FARM

[Anonymous No.22850959]

>>22850414
>Anti white author
I will now read your book.

[Anonymous No.22850986]

>>22850414
>support blm,
Based. Burn it all down.
>support feminism,
Giga-based. Love sluts.
>discriminate white men,
I dream of a day this discrimination actually impacts them economically
>support lgbt,
Based. Takes a real man to sexually dominate another man.
>support race mixing (blacks men with white women),
Omega based.
>support cucking.
The only ones against cucking are the ones who have been cucked (you).

[Anonymous No.22851074]

>>22850847
So what happened after Muck raped the MC?

[Anonymous No.22851092]

>>22851074
They fell in love, the whole thing was a bait and switch YA romantasy.

[Anonymous No.22851110]

>>22851074
You'll have to read the book and find out for yourself, anon.

[Anonymous No.22851176]

I thought for a moment she is going to have sex with him

[Anonymous No.22851252]

>>22847998
Middle aged moms will save self publishing

[Anonymous No.22851311]

>>22850203
shitposting or otherwise doing a job that pays well for minimal work such as coding

[Anonymous No.22851317]

>>22850252
give her a google image search

[Anonymous No.22851325]

>>22848414
>women are boring and i don't want to read about them.
forbidden tier of based, watch yourself around these parts

[Anonymous No.22851331]

I think women are interesting and i want to read about them. But only if they are 30+

[Anonymous No.22851337]

>>22851252
WIISE WOMAN WIISE WOMAN
WISE WOMAN SITTING HERE
WIISE WOMAN WIISE WOMAN
WISE WOMAN HERE

[Anonymous No.22851499]

>>22851337
New BOTW kino dropped earlier, bouta fire it up right now

[Anonymous No.22851513]

>>22849767
Shut up Fibonacci!

[Anonymous No.22851534]

>>22851331
If you genuinely had such an opinion you'd know women don't begin to develop their intelligence until minimum 55 years old. 30 is absolutely hilarious they're still gripping hard onto their 20's mindset

[Anonymous No.22851580]

W*men and r*mance actively ruins a fantasy book

[Anonymous No.22851654]

anyone read this? thoughts?

[Anonymous No.22851681]

>>22848414
Read Reverend Insanity.

[Anonymous No.22851694]

>>22848033
Don't exist.

[Anonymous No.22851723]

>>22851534
>Tfw no 55yo cougar gf

[Anonymous No.22851756]

>>22851723
ywn get an expert HJ from your 55yo cougar gf who doesn't know how to use a computer but can fix a clogged vacuum cleaner without having to google it

[Anonymous No.22851822]

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

[Anonymous No.22851838]

I feel like Elric and Book of New Sun are fantasy new wave done right. There is a shitload of new wave science fiction but kinda rare to get new wave fantasy

[Anonymous No.22851840]

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

[Anonymous No.22851885]

>>22851838
Nevèrÿon and the Seven Citadels tetralogy are pretty good takes on fantasy too, very underrated.

[Anonymous No.22851915]

>>22851885
>gay protag
Shall not be reading.

[Anonymous No.22851921]

>>22851838
Define the 'fantasy new wave'

[Anonymous No.22851936]

>>22851915
Based.

[Anonymous No.22852001]

>>22851921
new wave scifi but with fantasy

[Anonymous No.22852028]

>>22851915
what about a menopausal protagonist?
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/176268.Dragonsbane

[Anonymous No.22852031]

>>22851840
man look how hard fantasy art has declined

[Anonymous No.22852040]

>>22852031

[Anonymous No.22852058]

>>22852031
it's funny watching redditors on r/fantasy trying to defend their shitty modern covers

[Anonymous No.22852061]

>>22851252
For me, it's OA fantasy

[Anonymous No.22852076]

>>22851654
I did when I was in middle school (?). It's for children and it shows, the plot and characters are good but it's nothing groundbreaking. If I recall correctly, the story takes place in an AU with demons and mages have to pact with them in order to use magic. In order to control them, the mage must know the demon's name but the demon can subvert this if they know the mage real name. There's two protagonists, one is your typical boo hoo magic boy and the other is a demon, the latter's chapters are narrated in first-person while the former are narrated in third-person.
I think it was ok if you just want a "orphan suffers and is looking for something so he does magic" kind of story.

[Anonymous No.22852084]

>>22852031
>stank mozzarella
no thanks

[Anonymous No.22852094]

>>22852061
I don't know what is it but those cover have this "plastic" feel to them. As if, the artists setup a scene in blender before taking a screenshot.
>>22852084
ok pal here's one by Morrill

[Anonymous No.22852103]

>Jia Jin Sheng was stunned on the spot, his face frozen with shock.
>“A Rank five powerhouse, the Flower Wine Monk’s inheritance!”
>He was stunned, and for a moment his brains were churning and thinking.
>“My god! A Rank five powerhouse, what does that mean? Rank three is a family elder, Rank four is a village lord, and a Rank five is a mountain lord, able to rule over a mountain and do as he pleases! To think that in this tiny place, there is a Rank five Gu Master’s power inheritance.”
>“Wait, Flower Wine Monk is a demonic cultivator, so if I inherit his powers, is it inappropriate? No, strength has nothing to do with good or evil. The Flower Wine Monk wants his successor to destroy the Gu Yue clan, but do I really have to? He’s already dead, I just have to take his inheritance and ignore those issues.”
>“This is a godsend opportunity. Even with my D grade talent, if I inherit the Flower Wine Monk’s inheritance, I might be able to improve my talent. Those rare talent-raising Gu worms, they might be part of the inheritance. If I inherit this fortune and become a Rank four or five Gu Master, I’d be able to contest with Jia Fu!”
>“Wait! I almost forgot, there’s an outsider, what should I do?”
>“Should I split the inheritance with him? No, kill him! Only by killing him can I protect this secret. Yes, I should calm him down first, and lie that we’re going to split the treasure. Getting rid of his guard, then assaulting him and killing him here. This place is so hidden, it’s great. Even if I kill him, nobody would know.”
>Although he thought of all these, it was merely a moment in real life.
>Having a plan, he squinted and revealed a fake smile.
>He slowly turned around and faced Fang Yuan but just as he was about to speak, he saw two blue moonblades flying towards him.
>His pupils dilated into the size of a pin; the distance was too small, he could not respond in time!
>“You……” His voice came to a halt.
>The moonblade aimed accurately for his neck, and in an instant, his skull flew into the air, fresh blood pouring out like a fountain.
>After two seconds, his corpse fell to the ground.
>The scalding blood poured on the mountain walls, dyeing the withering vines red.
>“Don’t think so much when killing people.”
>Fang Yuan looked at the corpse plainly and then shifted his gaze towards the image wall.

[Anonymous No.22852130]

I'm reading Wheel of Time, and I'm started on Book 9. Winter's Heart. And I'm just curious, what the hell does it mean for Elayne to take the Lion throne? The narrative keeps emphasizing that. she has to TAKE the Lion throne. But like, her mom just had it some months ago. The throne should be rightfully hers through birthright. I don't get what's stopping her from just moving into the queen's chambers and announcing herself queen.

Also, I swear Robert Jordan has a weird idea of what's important to emphasize or not. There are a hundred mentions of women sniffing in derision. Half a hundred mentions of pouty and petulant mouths. A few dozen mentions of Nynaeve tugging her braid. And a dozen mentions of Elayne looking down her nose. But then he kills of a fairly major dark friend in like two pages, with only a couple mentions of his name, and not even emphasizing who he was. If you're not really paying attention, you could miss it. I feel like he really dropped the ball there.

Also, I'm still not sure why Dashiva tried to kill rand. in the last book. It comes out of nowhere, and then seems to be unresolved. I guess I'll find out later. But I'm very unsatisfied right now. In fact, I'm starting to see why these middle books feel like a drag. It's because in the first like 5 or so books, all the plots more or less resolved themselves within the same book. But ever since the bowl of the winds was introduced, it's like all of the plotlines are tattered. Remaining unresolved until future books, where it's still yet unresolved. The mysteries keep piling up. Except that the books are so long I forget what the mysteries are by the time they're resolved. So when Robert Jordan resolves the mysteries with a light touch, I'm just like "wait, was that something I should care about?" "Wait, who was that name again?" "Wait, what was their motive before?"

If he spent a little more time reinforcing important details, and less time mentioning who vomited, patted their skirts, and sniffed, then maybe the plot would be easier to follow and more enjoyable.

Anyway, what the fuck does it mean to "take" the Lion throne? Take from who? No one occupies it.

[Anonymous No.22852176]

>>22852001
Define 'new wave sci-fi'

[Anonymous No.22852187]

>>22852176
Define 'define'

[Anonymous No.22852245]

>>22852130
i think it's because morgase was usurped by rahvin so people aren't lining up to just back another trakand ruler after the whole fiasco iirc there are two other women that also have claims AND have supporters so she can't just risk a civil war with the last battle looming and needs to do some realpolitiking maneuvering to get people to back her so she can assume the throne
>But then he kills of a fairly major dark friend in like two pages, with only a couple mentions of his name, and not even emphasizing who he was.
remind me who was killed in this book
>Except that the books are so long I forget what the mysteries are by the time they're resolved. s
skills issue

[Anonymous No.22852247]

you now remember the bowl of the winds subplot

[Anonymous No.22852252]

>>22852247
comfy

[Anonymous No.22852307]

>>22852130
Yeah you are in the middle of the infamous "slog", where many POVs suffer filler plots while waiting for other characters to advance.

[Anonymous No.22852306]

>>22852245
>remind me who was killed in this book
You know what? No. I was about to answer. But then you had to hit me with the "skill issue". Why don't YOU remember who was killed? Naming him a "fairly major darkfriend" should be sufficient enough information.

[Anonymous No.22852316]

Sex with Tattersail!

[Anonymous No.22852330]

>>22852306
because unlike you i read the books like 2.5 years ago so i have the right to not know in which exact book each major darkfriend was killed

[Anonymous No.22852340]

>>22851822
>Reverend Insanity = Literally about an a-moral bugman killing/consooming/cultivating
>Lord of The Mysteries = Boring asian steampunk with a tarot magic system for card fags
>Neuromancer = Decent cyberspunk i'm putting together a team novel
>Hyperion = Interplanetary high tech trooning
>The Prince of Nothing = Bakker is for fags and fags are for Bakker. Simple as.
>The Wandering Inn = Stay at home moms power fantasy with a main character whos most prominent power is complaining while being a pacivist.
>Between Two Fires = Heaven Vs hell but in medievil FRANCE!
>Mother of Learning = Time loop and like all of the subgenre goes literally nowhere over and over again, has a decent magic system and a main characters sister that is annoying as fuck.
>Cradle = Every second novel is a dud in the series with a birdbath of a main character. Only decent thing is the fights that get stale real quick because it does not take long to realise they are all ill conceived magical games of uno.
>I Shall Seal the Heavens = Proto xianxia at its worst, MC gets kidnapped into strong but lowly down on its luck sect. Queue haughty young masters, saving face and swilling genseng infused tiger penis soup by the gallon.
>A Song of Ice and Fire = Fantastical medievil degeneracy where the caracters who should live die and the characters who should die live. Also author is too busy getting fat and old to finish the series.
>The Poppy War = Fem-C gets accepted to 20th century china-esque martial academy and gets looked down upon while struggling to overcome amidst pseudo researched equally vintage china political bullshit.

[Anonymous No.22852345]

>>22851840
>Azarinth Healer = Starts good but fizzles hard midway. Author also makes the main character a low key lesbian because they clearly have no idea hat to do with their love life.
>Primal Hunter = MC+background is so impossibly nonsensical that he's not even cannon in his own setting.
>He Who Fights with Monsters = every character that isnt the MC is just there to be amazed at how smart Jason is while he tells them shit they already know before reminding them (incorrectly i might add) that 'Oh you have no idea".
>Dungeon Crawler Carl = The MC's sidekick (A cat named 'Princess Donut') is so much smarter than Carl (the MC) that every scene the two are in is eye-gougingly painful. This would not be so much of a problem if such scenes did not constitute the majority of the series.
>System Universe = After the initial premise is established it turns into how to pander to followers at a snails pace AKA; 'Filler McFiller Face - The Excessively Extended Sleep Inducing Saga'.
>Dissonance = MC gets god fucked more then once as he goes about becoming a man/bear/goat/pig/axolotl hybrid who also has many super sekret identities.
>Defiance of the Fall = Brain dead MC with very-much-just-barely opposed kingdom building with a wafer thin cultivation system
>Iron Prince = edgy school setting with even edgier MC who has lightning powers and no discernible challenges what so ever.

[Anonymous No.22852354]

>>22848413
I don't buy it. Sanderson's said he was "slowing down" or "taking a break" before but then he just starts some new writing project on the side.

[Anonymous No.22852360]

>>22852330
Not good enough. What if you had to wait between releases? 2.5 years is nothing. In fact, there just happens to be 2 years and 5 months between book 7 and 8. So you're going to have to dredge up information on this character who you last saw 2.5 years ago.

[Anonymous No.22852362]

>>22848759
They are not important at all, you don't have to bother with them unless you want to. I read the entirety of Book of the Fallen before I bothered with the first Esselmont book.

[Anonymous No.22852363]

>>22846313
>Beware of Chicken = 'Average' dude gets isekaied into cultivation universe where he runs away from conflict and strives for basic farming life that simultaneously grants him power, thirsty bitches, farm animals(OP spirit beasts) and bling(natural treasures). A working stiffs escapism fantasy where they can morally fence sit and be granted everything their current life denies them.
>Memoirs of Your Local Small-time Villainess = The writing has no right being as good as it is considering the premise, Its main pitfall is the world-building done by reminiscence of how the game world is supposed to be from the MC's MANY play-through recollections. Basically a time loop/reincarnation in disguise where the MC knows all the spechul sekrets.
>Deathworld Commando: Reborn = If you can make it through the four(4) chapters of prologue mainly consisting of esl tier dialogue and character descriptions then this stories for you! Think worst spache muhreen ever thrown into an anime isekai as an elf hybrid. Epitome of telling rather than showing
>The Butcher of Gadobhra = Multi-POV VRMMO where the stats and effects are made up and the character progression doesnt matter. Starts with a pseudo-prisoner arc where pointless restrictions are placed on the main characters for which they have to find workarounds. Slow progression comedy where the dialogue has more thought put into it then the fight scenes.
>The Laws of Cultivation: Qi = MC^2 = Budding scientist gets isekai'd into cultivation world, if not for that one small character difference, in the beginning at least, it could be a carbon copy of Beware of Chicken without the agronomy hard on and a boner for great science(alchemy) instead. Also lets not forget the pokemon (spirit animals) because why the fuck not? Highly repetitive.
>Fodder = Step 1) Do bad things - Step 2) Get relifed as gobbo - Step 3) ??? - Step 4) Profit - Caution lots of POV shifting
>12 Miles Below = First book is humans in power armor vs murder machines kino. Book 2 onwards morphs into how to tame a tsundere robotfu, too much political intuige with a scant couple of drawn out fights thrown in and infruiating POV shifting. The world lore is fantastic but the MC doesnt start to go near any really interesting stuff until book four which is still highly curtailed.
>Immortality Starts With Generosity = Arranged marrige xiania but what if instead of being rewarded for being a power hungry douchebag you got bonus points(Qi) for being a goody two shoes?
>A Soldier Adrift: Captain Westeros = Captain america fan-fiction slop meets game of thrones fan-fiction slop
>War Queen = We wuz(arez) alien space bugas n shit. Half decent writing tbqh
>Worth the Candle = Guy gets summoned into a tabletop campaign he created with his now dead friend. Picks up a couple of plot armoured companions on the way as they explore the world (whilst on the run from some A typical goons) and MC (eventually) overcomes his depression whilst not getting any.

[Anonymous No.22852373]

>>22849939
Read Poppy War, nothing about it encouraged me to follow up with its sequel. Was one of the most arduous self-hating feminist tracts I'd ever forced myself to finish.

>>22848421
Thanks that looks pretty good.

[Anonymous No.22852380]

>>22852373
>Thanks that looks pretty good.
It's excellent. I rank it along side The King of Elfland's Daughter, and The Broken Sword as one of the all-time great stand-alone fantasy novels. Enjoy, anon.

[Anonymous No.22852414]

http://www.tsosmud.org/concordance.txt
90s Wheel of Time fans were a different breed of autist to today's zoomers

[Anonymous No.22852420]

Anyone have that one spreadsheet compiled by redditors for books that have "offensive content"? It made for an excellent recommendation list.

[Anonymous No.22852431]

>>22852354
> In this case, we’ve had five(!) new releases in one year. I don’t want or intend this to become the norm. I might try something like it again someday, but in the meantime we’re going to slow back down. Next year, we’ll likely only have the one book release: Stormlight 5.

[Anonymous No.22852446]

>>22848413
>I still remember sitting down with another author soon after I was given the opportunity to complete the Wheel of Time, and this person (a good writer, and wise in the ways of business) said to me, “Now, make sure you go back to them immediately and pitch another follow-up series in the Wheel of Time world so your future is secure. If I were you, I’d want to have a dozen books under contract, so you can keep writing these for the next twenty years.”
>That might have been the smart business decision, but I rejected it immediately—because that wasn’t what the Wheel of Time needed. And when others came to me and asked if I wanted to do a follow-up trilogy, I told them what I’ve always said: Robert Jordan didn’t want it done, so I don’t think I can do it in good conscience. More isn’t always better.
Which well-known hack wanted WoT spinoffs? Place your bets

[Anonymous No.22852447]

>>22852420
1. Look at OP
2. Open Warosu
3. Type reddit spreadsheet in the search field
4. Scroll down a few posts
5. Open the spreadsheet link
6. Do stuff yourself in the future without having to ask

[Anonymous No.22852450]

Rabelais was carnivelesque fantasy before it was even thought up in the minds of weird fiction writers

[Anonymous No.22852451]

>>22852450
me on the left

[Anonymous No.22852494]

>>22852414
what is this

[Anonymous No.22852502]

>>22852494
pure undiluted autism

[Anonymous No.22852656]

>>22852414
This is cool. I thought about doing it myself. But the amount of work is insane. And besides, we have wikis now to help organize all the information. I've considered making my own wiki, and just scouring every sentence to seemingly innocuous and minute details. Because

[Anonymous No.22852707]

how is the Vorkosigan series? Is it ideas heavy ; character heavy ; military sci-fi heavy?

[Anonymous No.22852732]

>>22852707
I'm not homosexual so don't read sci-fi, but I've read her fantasy stuff, and it's good. It's a little overrated by a few anons in this general, but better than most modern fantasy.

[Anonymous No.22852789]

>>22852656
i'm one of the top contributors in a fanwiki related to a sci-fi universe

[Anonymous No.22852792]

>>22852789
grim

[Anonymous No.22852802]

>>22852789
I wasn't going to reply, but the other anon had to be a negative cunt. So I'm just going to say I think that's really cool. Assuming you're actually accurate. And not a control freak. But yeah, if you're not those things, then I'm impressed.

[Anonymous No.22852807]

>>22852789
useful people like you are rare, based.

[Anonymous No.22852823]

>>22852802
>Assuming you're actually accurate. And not a control freak.
by control freak you mean like the dreaded mods on some wikipedias? yeah no, i don't have any administrative privileges. i just write or expand articles
>>22852807

[Anonymous No.22852832]

>>22852823
>by control freak you mean like the dreaded mods on some wikipedias?
Yeah basically.

[Anonymous No.22852840]

Is this worth reading bros?

[Anonymous No.22852842]

So are they actually good

[Anonymous No.22852862]

>>22850847
Just finished this. What did I think of it? Well I liked it; just like the first novel. Best way I could describe this series is Edgy Horror Adventure Fantasy That Isn't Subversive Or Nihilistic. I generally don't enjoy reading 'edgy' literature anymore since 99% of it these days IS nihilistic and/or subversive which bores me to tears. Or it's edgy for the sake of being edgy with nothing else beyond that. But this series is different despite all the edge. I'm not even sure what type of anons I would recommend these books too. It has a very strong S&S vibe without technically being S&S (normal male protag gets dropped into a world of absolute horror and is forced to become a savage killer so he can rescue his woman and find a way to escape).

[Anonymous No.22852866]

>>22852842
if you imagine it like anime. prose it not great.

[Anonymous No.22852910]

>>22852707
the warrior's apprentice is the one of the worst books I've read

[Anonymous No.22852919]

>>22852842
I want a book that reads like this picture looks

[Anonymous No.22852975]

>>22852707
>main character is a funny dwarf
It's not bad but this is basically like reading 26 books of tyrion lannister in space.

[Anonymous No.22853090]

>>22852842
I wish they were, but sadly no. As >>22852866 mentioned, the prose is really awful. I wondered if it was just Engrish shitty translation, but I'm not invested enough to read some Japanese language reviews. One of the best examples of an amazing premise executed terribly.

[Anonymous No.22853112]

>teleports behind you
>"heh... nothin personel, Fanimshits"
really Bakker?

[Anonymous No.22853120]

>>22852103
Fang Yuan delivers once again while shitty western protag cucks are apologizing to roasties and their black boyfriends.

[Anonymous No.22853133]

>>22853112
filtered

[Anonymous No.22853142]

>>22852910
why

[Anonymous No.22853204]

Is Wuxia/Xianxia horror a thing?
I got an idea for my first RPG maker game, horror, exploring an abandoned evil sect.
Could use some ideas/references.

[Anonymous No.22853213]

>>22853142
The book can be summed up entirely as "If You Give A Mouse A Cookie - IN SPACE (with cuckoldry)"

[Anonymous No.22853226]

>>22853204
It's absolutely a movie genre, I don't know about books.

[Anonymous No.22853234]

>>22853204
Not really xianxia/wuxia, but My House of Horrors, maybe?

[Anonymous No.22853238]

I'm slightly over 100 pages into this and it isn't clicking with me. Just seems like its stealing a lot of ideas from Mass Effect and the Warp from 40k. Does it get any better?

[Anonymous No.22853262]

>>22852842
Setting is far more interesting than anything. Also, English translation is dry as FUCK.

[Anonymous No.22853495]

Truth Shines.

[Anonymous No.22853514]

>>22853495
is this you?

[Anonymous No.22853521]

>>22853495
Water sleeps

[Anonymous No.22853522]

>>22853495
SO true.

[Anonymous No.22853553]

QRD on Stone Dance of the Chameleon? Just saw it recommended on /tg/ and it looks interesting.

[Anonymous No.22853556]

>>22852130
>But like, her mom just had it some months ago. The throne should be rightfully hers through birthright. I don't get what's stopping her from just moving into the queen's chambers and announcing herself queen.
It's not a hereditary monarchy, it's an elective monarchy. In order to become Queen she has to secure the backing of a majority of the landed lords.

[Anonymous No.22853559]

Are there any good fantasy stories that use the Moon as a central theme? Ie lunar magic, moon-cults etc

[Anonymous No.22853581]

>>22853559
First thing that comes to mind is Moon-Flash by McKillip. Quite YA, like most of her work, but it's sophisticated enough to be worth a read after your teenage years.

[Anonymous No.22853601]

my colonists always kill human pawns, only subhumans I don't want to recruit live and it sucks

[Anonymous No.22853647]

Bakker. Is. KING.

[Anonymous No.22853657]

Mythology bros - how is Guest's translation of The Mabinogion? I came across a very cheap paperback that is illustrated by Alan Lee.

[Anonymous No.22853670]

>>22853647
>>22853495

[Anonymous No.22853680]

>>22853657
All translations are fine fren, don't get too caught up in the mechanics of the language and miss the message

[Anonymous No.22853698]

>>22853657
>Mabinogi
there's a thread on /vm/ about this
>>>/vm/1122637

[Anonymous No.22853738]

Anybody read The Harp of the Grey Rose?

[Anonymous No.22853742]

>>22853680
Thanks, anon. I was slightly confused because the most prominent translation on goodreads seemed to be some kind of more modern re-telling, not a direct translation of the original text.

[Anonymous No.22853777]

>>22852842
A while back I read the one they based Bloodlust on. It seemed like a fairly simple story that would be hard to fuck up, but even though all the descriptions were really childish and I could chalk that up to being a translation issue the story itself had been fixed by the movie.

[Anonymous No.22853843]

Tell me about the best character tropes for:
1. Fanatically motivated military commander
2. Alpha male barbarian
3. Calm and intelligent but malevolent monster
4. Young impressionable noblewoman
Any examples?

[Anonymous No.22853888]

>>22853521
Soldiers Live.

[Anonymous No.22853940]

>>22852130
>he kills of a fairly major dark friend
After Sammael died, Sevanna & crew had to spend like 4 books doing absolutely nothing and still taking up space
In general, the evil side is portrayed as highly incompetent and/or coward, with the exception of people like Moridin and that big Myrddraal that are totally evil doing evil stuff to side characters and someday they will be relevant, I swear.

Pilling up unresolved plot over 6 books and then dying is a joke

[Anonymous No.22853970]

>>22853495
Is the Aspect-Emperor worth reading if I've already been informed that the Great Ordeal failed?

[Anonymous No.22854004]

>>22852345

This guy has no idea what he's talking baout on any of these. You can tell cause he said Lord of the Mysteries is card based (potion based, lmao. The group is card based but that doesnt' even matter).

Iron Prince OP doesn't have lightning powers. No one has element specific powers.

MOL: He's just retarded, I don't know how to even explain whats wrong with his summary.

Cradle: Book 1 is trash, book 2 is ok. Everything after book 2 is good except book 7 imo.

[Anonymous No.22854016]

>>22854004
They're just 1-2 sentence vagueries anon crocked up after reading a few chapters of each, if that, and now joins the pool of ritualposters.
>everything after book 2 is good
LMAOing @ your poor taste; everything after book 6 is trash.

[Anonymous No.22854020]

>>22853970
Do you like what you've read from Bakker so far? If so, yes.

[Anonymous No.22854024]

>>22853843
All in the book I'm writing desu

[Anonymous No.22854038]

>>22853970
I'm enjoying it. About a third into White Luck Warrior.

[Anonymous No.22854046]

>>22848222
>>22848759
>>22850145
>>22851822
>>22851840
>>22851838
>>22852130
>>22852316
>>22852340
>>22852345
>>22852363
>>22853112
>>22853495
>>22853647
>>22853670
>>22853970
>>22854038
Great post anons, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker?? Any books with incest?

[Anonymous No.22854222]

>>22852076
Thanks a lot didn't know it for children.

[Anonymous No.22854258]

>>22853238
No idea. I stopped at around that part too.

[Anonymous No.22854388]

>>22853556
ok...? So the lords just sit around guarding a vacant throne? Why don't one of them just come and take it?

[Anonymous No.22854398]

>>22854388
Does he have to repeat himself?

[Anonymous No.22854426]

>>22853940
>Pilling up unresolved plot over 6 books and then dying is a joke
True. I was talking about Jaichim Carridin btw. AKA "Bors." Now that I think about it, In book 6(or was it 7? They run together), there was a good chunk of text dedicated to setting up a new scheme of his. New plotting. The bad guy visits him and basically tells him "you failed for the last time. Do it right this time!" in so many words. Then, off screen, he somehow fails. One of his plots goes awry. I don't know which, because RJ doesn't seem to care about explaining which random henchmen was ordered by which random higher ranked darkfriend. But SOMEHOW he fails again.

Then in book 8, there's like 2 pages of introducing a new dark friend by way of killing the one that failed. And the new guy doesn't even recognize the old guy. I guess that's supposed to be some kind of irony. But I still feel like there should have been a more satisfying end to the guy.

There's probably more text dedicated to Min's tight britches, than what the dark friend got at the end.

[Anonymous No.22854441]

>>22854398
It just doesn't make sense. When there is a power vacuum, someone inevitably comes along to fill it. If any of the lords are powerful enough to defend the throne against someone who would claim it, then at least one of the lords has the power to take it themselves. And if the other lords think they have the power to challenge you? Well, chances are they would acquiesce in order to avoid mutual self destruction.

I mean, whoever is acting as custodian for the castle while the throne is vacant is near enough to owning the throne anyway. If you're close enough to dust the throne, you're close enough to claim it.

[Anonymous No.22854514]

Tell me about Pratchett. Why does everybody love him? /sffg/ is the only place where I should find any critique on him.

[Anonymous No.22854528]

>>22854514
>milquetoast reddit writer
>ironic humor
>simple and digestable prose and characters
He wrote children books for grown men

[Anonymous No.22854543]

>apu-punchau was severian
what's next after urth of the new sun, now called ushas

[Anonymous No.22854546]

>>22851654
kino when I was a kid
dunno about the newer ones but the originals are great

[Anonymous No.22854555]

>>22847941
who?

[Anonymous No.22854556]

>>22854528
anything fun and not gritty grimdark is automatically cringe and reddit in /sffg/'s eyes

[Anonymous No.22854562]

>>22853238
I don't understand why so many faggots keep shilling his shit.

[Anonymous No.22854611]

>>22854543
horny lizard-bat-plants near you wanting to have steamy dream sex

[Anonymous No.22854614]

>“Then from nowhere, it seemed, dragons dropped from the clouds. Dragons, Kellhus! Wracu. Ancient Skafra, his hide scarred from a thousand battles; magnificent Skuthula, Skogma, Ghoset; all those who’d survived the arrows and sorceries of the High North. The Magi of Kyraneas and Shigek stepped into the sky and closed with the beasts.”
Kino

[Anonymous No.22854616]

Not gonna lie sisters. Until today, I always thought The Wheel of Time was 2000s post-Harry Potter fantasy slop. But I just found out it's 90s fantasy slop.

[Anonymous No.22854620]

>>22847941
based
how many /fit/izens are here

[Anonymous No.22854637]

>>22854426
oh, THAT was the drowned guy. I just figured he became irrelevant after everyone left Ebou Dar, which I guess is true.

>random henchmen was ordered by which random higher ranked darkfriend
yeah, the henchmen themselves are barely aware of what they're doing, and the higher ranked ones are only slightly more so.
Even the Forsaken have a few "sure boss whatever you say" scenes, to the point that every conflict feels...somewhat coincidental, instead of a directed effort into hindering the good guys.

If I remember right, Moridin only found out the Bowl of the Winds could _maybe_ do _something_ after Elayne had it, but another Forsaken already knew, since they sent the Golem to grab it

[Anonymous No.22854654]

>>22854528
Thanks. Anyone else? It's not like I had to ask If I wanted to know if the popular acclaimed author is reddit.

[Anonymous No.22854663]

>>22854614
Way too many proper nouns

[Anonymous No.22854684]

>>22854637
>oh, THAT was the drowned guy.
Yeah. A few mentions of his drinking was dropped in previous books. So it's supposed to be an ironic end that he died in drink. But his drinking wasn't really a highlight of his character. His position as inquisitor was. RJ spent a fair amount of pages hyping that group up, only to make the man's drinking his defining feature at the end. If you didn't catch that, then I'm not sure what else was supposed to indicate it was him.

>If I remember right, Moridin only found out the Bowl of the Winds could _maybe_ do _something_ after Elayne had it, but another Forsaken already knew, since they sent the Golem to grab it
That could be it. I'm not sure exactly. But someone knew about the whole store of Angreal and other old artifacts that were kept in Ebou Dar. Which I believe ended up being the same storeroom that the bowl was kept in. So they all seemed to merge into this single shitstorm at the storeroom. The Golem side seems to have made off with a number of things. But Elayne and Nynaeve leave with the bowl, and a large share of the stowed artifacts.

[Anonymous No.22854784]

>>22854514
/sffg/ is the only place where people are so dumb/autistic that they absolutely must read "the discworld series" in publication order and end up suffering through amateurish Douglas Adams knock-offs and literal childrens' books for no reason.

[Anonymous No.22854863]

>>22854784
Discworld is great. Don’t know what you are on about

[Anonymous No.22854879]

>>22854863
He was defending the series. Saying that people here dislike it because they force themselves to start with the weaker earliest books and read the books explicitly aimed at kids, rather than doing the sane thing and starting with something good regardless of chronology. If my first had been The Color of Magic I never would have read another Adams book in my life.

Overall I'd say Discworld is a mixed bag. Some a ton of fun, others just don't hold up well anymore (usually the ones which focus the most on parodying something specific and then-current), and a few simply not good even at the time.

[Anonymous No.22854925]

I thought The Colour of Magic and Equal Rights were okay. I thought Guards! Guards! was excellent. I haven't read any other Discworld books.

Is it likely that there are some books that I missed (when considered in publication order) that I will enjoy as much as G!G! or should I never look back?

[Anonymous No.22854996]

>>22854925
Honestly it has been so long since I read any that several blur together and it's hard to recall which were best. I think there were a few that rose to G!G!'s level but it was one of the best. However, the average one I read was closer to it in quality than it was to Colour of Magic.

Also it's hilarious to me how much effort someone put into that infographic, just to fuck up basic shit like the name of The Fifth Elephant.

[Anonymous No.22855010]

>>22854925
small gods

[Anonymous No.22855019]

Library at Mount Char

[Anonymous No.22855039]

i haven't read discworld yet but i like the book covers

[Anonymous No.22855068]

Discovered Greg Egan, love it. Read the Planck Dive, read it now. It's a tiny story but I'm in love with it right now.
https://www.gregegan.net/PLANCK/Complete/Planck.html

>my reaction when
Gisela’s first instinct was to corner her and shout in her face: Kill yourself now! End this now! .

[Anonymous No.22855070]

More like Dicksworld.

[Anonymous No.22855091]

Should i buy the Well Worlds series by Jack chalker? I found a used bookstore that has a bunch of his books really cheap

[Anonymous No.22855102]

>>22855068
read the axiomatic and luminous short story collections

[Anonymous No.22855113]

>>22855102
I will, this guy is great.
Just really taken by this short story, man I hoped for...something else...

[Anonymous No.22855180]

>>22853742
to be fair I absolutely have not read it

[Anonymous No.22855206]

>>22855068
i'll add it to my to read list

[Anonymous No.22855276]

>>22854004
>First book literally called stormweaver with MC and lightning blades on the cover.
B-but he doesn't use lightning guize!
>Has no method to logically refute the MOL points
i-it's just wrong because it is ok!
>>22854016
Describes plot points books in.
>B-but he's only read a few chapters!
Also thinking Skysworn isn't trash.

[Anonymous No.22855293]

Any good SFF books this year that aren't BIPOC and LGBTshit?

[Anonymous No.22855308]

>>22847939
Are there any decent fantasy books with insane, schizophrenic, or in any way severely demented protagonists?

[Anonymous No.22855311]

>>22855276
who said anything about skysworn, faggot

[Anonymous No.22855312]

>>22855293
no. stick to reading non-fiction

[Anonymous No.22855316]

>>22855312
I've read enough about your mom's sex life already.

[Anonymous No.22855329]

>>22855316
Haha, so much for non-BIPOC...

[Anonymous No.22855359]

>>22855293
read mao ni

[Anonymous No.22855383]

>>22855308
Thomas covenant
>>22855316
You have to admit it was a great book.

[Anonymous No.22855386]

>>22855383
The beaver rape scene was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.22855443]

>>22855386
The scene where she gives oral sex to a Black man in front of her son was a bit todo much but i understand why she did it, a very powerful AND brave chapter.

[Anonymous No.22855451]

>>22855443
it was so moving, I posterized the entire chapter

[Anonymous No.22855458]

>>22855443
Is this from the The Doors of Stone?

[Anonymous No.22855640]

>>22855458
no it's from the new Realm of the Elderlings book

[Anonymous No.22855682]

>>22848222
Night Angel trilogy.

[Anonymous No.22855718]

>>22852130
Another observation. Elayne is a lot taller than I imagine. I don't know why, but I always think of her as average height. But book 9 reminds us of relative height once again. Here's the height rank for the main girls.

1. Aviendha is the tallest.
2. Elayne is under Avienda, but not by much surprisingly. They're close in height. When Elayne "looks down her nose", that's a literal description when she's looking at many characters.
3. Min? I'm not totally sure, but her height isn't emphasized, so I think she's somewhere in the middle.
4. Birgitte. I'm shocked to hear her described as shorter than Elayne. IDK, I just figured since she's older and more experienced, she would be taller too. But no, Birgitte is average height. Maybe even a little under average.
5. Egwene. She's "of a height" with Nynaeve, but slightly taller I think. Since her smallness is never emphasized.
6. Nynaeve. She seems to get shorter with every book. More and more a gremlin. She's noticeably below average. Near to Moiraine.
7. Moiraine is of course the smallest. Nearly dwarfen.(technically, people can be described as dwarfs, if they're 4'10'' and under)

[Anonymous No.22855743]

>>22855718
Min is 5'4/5"ish iirc
I think she is just shorter than Birgitte
The rest is correct.
You're right in general that it's easy to forget their heights. Min in particular I always imagine as tiny but even she towers over Nynaeve. It might have something to do with the fact that Rand is a gigachad giant so everyone is small next to him.

[Anonymous No.22855747]

>>22852842
It's the only book I dropped this year, and I really wanted to like it. The world and the scenes are decent enough, but the writing itself is just awful. Perhaps if you enjoy LitRPG you can get through it.

[Anonymous No.22855752]

>>22854925
You should at least read Mort. It's the first novel in which Death is a major character and it's also the first novel that feels the most like subsequent novels in tone, style and structure. Colour, Light, Equal Rites and to a lesser extent Sourcery read like anomalies in retrospect.

[Anonymous No.22855755]

>>22855743
>Min in particular I always imagine as tiny but even she towers over Nynaeve
Min wears heels because she likes to show off her ass, it's referenced several times.

[Anonymous No.22855769]

>>22855755
No I mean 5'5" is her height without the heels. At least according to the wiki

[Anonymous No.22855808]

>>22855743
>It might have something to do with the fact that Rand is a gigachad giant so everyone is small next to him.
That's probably it. Everyone is always looking up at him.

I got to the part where Elayne is suddenly summoned, while she's in a room of all these important people. And she has to undress to change clothes too. During the sequence, all the girls line up to block the view from the guys as she changes. She notes how the shield of women isn't doing much, because none of them are as tall as her, including Birgitte. Merilille not even coming up to Elayne's shoulder. The funny thing is, they could have just woven a visual barrier using the power. There were like 4 saidar users there. Merilille a seasoned Aes Sedai. Surely she knows how to conceal. But then again, maybe not. What Aes Sedai know seems to vary a lot. Especially considering how long it takes for them to each the Shawl. You would think they would all know more of the same tricks.

[Anonymous No.22855847]

>>22854925
Wyrd Sisters I enjoyed, a more cohesive start to the witches line than Equal Rites.
The strongest period was Wyrd Sisters through to Last Continent.

[Anonymous No.22855913]

>>22855718
>>22855808
>>22855743
oh, I'm silly. It's actually the beginning of book 8 that described their heights. That's how much the books are mushing together for me. Anyway, I found the text:
>The raised heels of Birgitte’s boots made her almost a hand taller than Nynaeve, if still shorter than Elayne or Aviendha.

This is interesting text, because a hand is only a few inches. Like 3-5 I guess? Let's go with 4, because that's what the wiki says. Anyway, to be *almost* a hand taller, that means she comes up shorter than a hand. So let's say Birgitte is 3 inches taller than Nynaeve with raised heels. I suppose the heels aren't very tall, because she still has to perform as a Warder. Birgitte tends to dress practically for the most part, save special occasions. So let's say her boots are an inch higher than normal boots. Meaning that Birgitte is only about 2 inches taller than Nynaeve. Less, if we assume her heels are even taller. But I doubt that's the case.

Also, while I was searching for text in book 9, I stumbled into text that's ahead of where I'm currently reading. But it's relevant.
>Eyeing Min sideways, Elayne remembered her own time wearing breeches, and wondered whether she might not try again. They were certainly freer than skirts. Not the heeled boots, though, she decided judiciously. They made Min almost as tall as Aviendha, but even Birgitte swayed in those, and with Min’s snug breeches and a coat that barely covered her hips, it looked positively scandalous.

Basically, Elayne notes that Min's heels make her nearly as tall as Aviendha, but she doesn't think the same about Birgitte. For Birgitte, she says "but even" she sways. That "but even" suggests that what was just said about Min's height, can't be said about Birgitte.

So Yeah, I'm thinking Min is taller than Birgitte. And Birgitte might actually be a little on the short side, if she's merely 2 inches above Nynaeve.

[Anonymous No.22855945]

>>22855311
No need for name calling just because you suffer from illiteracy.
>everything after book 6 is trash.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/36332410-skysworn
If you are also unable to operate web-browser correctly (Judging from the way this exchange has developed it is clearly no longer safe to assume such things) then the link clearly states skysworn is book four(4) in the cradle series. If you also suffer from innumeracy then that means that it is two books BEFORE book SIX(6).

I sincerely hope my post helped you to understand fren.

[Anonymous No.22855976]

I can always tell when posts are about WoT because there's a slurry of names that sound like a white trash mom's idea of unique mixed in with a few overheard from a tweenage D&D session

>>22855847
I broadly agree with the assessment although I'd say The Last Continent has many of the negative hallmarks of his later works

[Anonymous No.22856043]

>>22855976
>white trash mom
Yes i want to fuck morgase too

[Anonymous No.22856354]

>>22851654
The end of the original series has probably the best "Fuck It We Ball" I have seen
>>22852130
You might want to reread the preceding books because they LITERALLY tell you why she cant just claim the throne.
>>22852447
7.General goes back to being majority chink-shit I mean chink-lit
>>22853238
No, it gets worse.
>>22853495
IT SHINES ON THE MEAT

[Anonymous No.22856373]

Just finished mickey7 and i thought it was an easy but enjoyable read. A page turner even. It's light hearted but there some somber moments, but it's largely comical. I would definitely get the sequel antimatter blues when i can. Just started Dune as i watched the movie last night. Was surprised the book almost started with the box scene.

[Anonymous No.22856389]

>>22856373
It's a real shame they skipped the Dinner scene, I really liked the intrigue of that scene in the book.

[Anonymous No.22856429]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3245725/chinese-professor-used-ai-write-science-fiction-novel-then-it-won-national-award

[Anonymous No.22856449]

>>22856429
based

[Anonymous No.22856479]

>>22856429
Just a Chinese sham. They do love putting on fake ceremonies.

[Anonymous No.22856500]

Can't stop thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.22856609]

>>22852446
Probably Orson Scott Card or another mormo

[Anonymous No.22856618]

>>22853970
My great ordeal is seeing this post in every thread

[Anonymous No.22856622]

>>22854616
You're thinking of Name of the Wind

[Anonymous No.22856665]

>>22852446
Most likely David Farland, he was sanderlad's mentor or maybe Raymond Feist

[Anonymous No.22856741]

this is boring
where's severian

[Anonymous No.22856748]

>>22855718
so you don't remember the mysteries but remember how tall each female character is

[Anonymous No.22856761]

>>22856741
never heard if it. explain the idea of a the long sun. is it a lazer beam that turns off at "night" and turns on to make "day"?

[Anonymous No.22856769]

>Nowhere Stars is an ongoing fantasy-horror web novel about traumacore magical girls, nightmares clothed in ribbons and lace, alienation from reality, and broken children twisting the world into whatever shape they must to make their dreams come true.
Would you read Madoka?

[Anonymous No.22856771]

>>22856618

[Anonymous No.22856772]

>>22856769
>Nowhere Stars is an ongoing fantasy-horror web novel
>web novel
Yikes

[Anonymous No.22856777]

>>22848485
>how did /sff/ react when ursula k le guin died in 2018?
dancingisraelis.gif

[Anonymous No.22856794]

>>22855808
>You would think they would all know more of the same tricks.
um, anon, you're seemingly forgetting what the Wise One tells elayne just before she starts undressing? it's clear she has to undress immediately and regardless of the circumstances, her or any of the other aes sedai weaving a screen of saidar would be disrespectful and frivolous to the Wise Ones

[Anonymous No.22856806]

>>22855976
i'm latinx and i love wot names

[Anonymous No.22856814]

>>22856429
it's so over

[Anonymous No.22856831]

>>22856748
lol. Priorities.

>>22856794
I can see Elayne foregoing the shield to avoid shaming. Since she's soaking up all the Aiel stuff from Aviendha. But the others? Doubtful. What would Merilille know about Aiel customs? Or even care, if she did know? What difference would it make for Merilille to weave a screen, as opposed to using their bodies as screen? If she knew the weave, she could make a screen before she physically walked to Elayne.

[Anonymous No.22856859]

>>22854611
You know, I almost feel bad for the inhumi, if they didn’t have a tendency to lethally sperg out.

[Anonymous No.22856873]

>>22856831
elayne has to undress pronto. it would be kinda useless to take the time to weave a screen if elayne is halfway naked by the time it's done instead of just walking over and help shield her with her body (specially since merilille likely has no idea what's going on)

[Anonymous No.22856890]

>>22856741
>he managed to miss sev
lmao

[Anonymous No.22856915]

>>22848222
>female
>assassins

Are u retarded

[Anonymous No.22856925]

>>22856873
They all managed to walk over to her before Elayne got half her clothes off. It's a little vague exactly how much she took off between paragraphs. But it would seem to me that she just barely got the buttons undone before they ladies make a screen with their bodies. It doesn't take time to weave a screen at all. Rand regularly erects a screen in a second. Merilille doesn't understand what's going on, which is all the more reason why she would weave a screen, rather than use her body to screen. Because she wouldn't know that the modesty is shaming in Aiel culture. From Merilille's perspective, all she knows is that Taim and the Asha'man are in the room, and they're unified at keeping Elayne modest. The most expedient and effective way to do that, is weave a screen. Not try to block Elayne with your body, when you're hardly reach Elayne's shoulder in height.

[Anonymous No.22856928]

>>22856915
crouching tiger hidden dragon was kino.

[Anonymous No.22856956]

>>22856925
>Rand regularly erects a screen in a second.
more powerful channelers are more skilled at weaving. rand is in the top level for males while merillile is relatively low
https://wot.fandom.com/wiki/21_level_scale
>The most expedient and effective way to do that, is weave a screen.
but anon the asha'man already turned around so if i were merillile then i would just stand guard. doing a screen is overkill

[Anonymous No.22856968]

I'm reading the third Wheel of Time Dragon Reborn and Rand just killed a bunch of people. Like maybe they were dark friend illusions or disguises but I feel like till now it's been fairly clear if something was fake or not and their arrival was treated totally matter of factly.
I'm reading this for the sake of my dad who loves them and until now I've found them fairly intolerable but this is the first one where I feel embers of interest sparking.

[Anonymous No.22856988]

is hitchhiker guide to the galaxy proto-reddit writing or proto-millennial writing

[Anonymous No.22857004]

>>22856915
Are you?

[Anonymous No.22857005]

>>22856988
>is hitchhiker guide to the galaxy proto-reddit writing or proto-millennial writing
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.22857009]

>>22856968
>until now I've found them fairly intolerable
>he didn't enjoy the search for the horn of valere, traveling the ways, nynaeve's initiation, egwene fucking up renna, and all the exploration with the aura of the dark battle approaching

[Anonymous No.22857013]

>>22856956
>more powerful channelers are more skilled at weaving. rand is in the top level for males while merillile is relatively low
The narrative constantly reminds the reader that the experience of seasoned Aes Sedai could match or exceed an Asha'man in skill with the power. Men can overtake women in raw strength since they're so much stronger. But weaving takes a certain level of dexterity. And that dexterity is not limited or bolstered by one's power. For example, how one of the Kin manages to shield Elayne despite her power being minuscule. She manages this because her shield is flexible, so Elayne can't simply break it by flexing her power.
Someone who is as old as Merilille should have a lot of experience and be deft at using many weaves. So assuming that she knows how to make a screen, it should be as quick or quicker than walking.
Take for example how when the characters were learning their powers, they would sometimes forget they can just float a cup over to them in stead of walking to get it. That's how much faster it is to use the power than the body.

Also female channelers regularly pull weaves out as quick as throwing a knife. Or prepare weaves in a second, ready to use.

>but anon the asha'man already turned around so if i were merillile then i would just stand guard. doing a screen is overkill
They turn around BEFORE the girls make a screen with their bodies. So clearly, going "overkill" with modesty was not a concern for the women. If she was going to make a screen with her body, then she might as well make one with the power. The power that she's already holding by the way.

There can only be two reasons why she didn't use the weave.
A. She doesn't know it. In which case, the white tower really dropped the ball there.
B. Robert Jordan just didn't think of it. Or perhaps he did think of it, but decided against it, because narratively the body shield has more impact.

[Anonymous No.22857467]

Thoughts on The Jungle Books?

[Anonymous No.22857519]

midway though wot book 11 where the series is supposed to pick up again but I’m still waiting for that to happen
still dull as hell

[Anonymous No.22857534]

>>22848052
I liked Kingdom's Bloodline, it's extremely fucking slow though

[Anonymous No.22857555]

>>22853495
VGH....EARWA... SOVL....

[Anonymous No.22857561]

>>22857534
>I liked Kingdom's Bloodline, it's extremely fucking slow though
How is the translation?

[Anonymous No.22857616]

How would you write younger brother x older sister fiction?

[Anonymous No.22857642]

>>22857013
You're severely overthinking the scene anon, but to entertain you, I'd argue that every Aes Sedai would be very wary of suddenly embracing saidar near Ashaman

[Anonymous No.22857658]

>>22857616
>older sister
>older
Pure degeneracy.

[Anonymous No.22857672]

>>22857561
I remember it being good but it stopped at some point years ago, when I last read it, it has resumed since but I don't know the quality of that translation

[Anonymous No.22857697]

>>22847939
Dunno if I asked this here before but does anyone have good webcomic/webnovel reading sites? I know of wuxianovel,scribblehub and novelupdates. Just forgot on which site I was always reading my chinese webcomics

[Anonymous No.22857958]

>>22856618
this but bakkerfag's 4 years of sperging

[Anonymous No.22858049]

>>22857616
idk but can you write some and post it here so we can read it?

[Anonymous No.22858089]

>largest library in Canada doesn't even carry R. Scott Bakkers "masterpiece"

that should tell you how "good" it is

[Anonymous No.22858117]

>>22857013
Gender politics disguised as some retarded fantasy trope. Trash.

[Anonymous No.22858141]

>>22858089
By design

[Anonymous No.22858150]

310

[Anonymous No.22858290]

>>22858117
stfu /pol/tard

[Anonymous No.22858410]

new
>>22858407
>>22858407
>>22858407
>>22858407

[Anonymous No.22858415]

>>22858290
>>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.22859148]

>>22857555
neat. who is the artist