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22840112 No.22840112 [Reply] [Original]

Why did the author go on a chapter long tirade about *yikes* spanking children

>> No.22840122

That is pretty much Heinlein in a nutshell and why he gets almost no attention from anyone but plotfags. His attempts at incorporating theme are childish at best, but he is fun and if you don't think too hard about his work it can be surprisingly insightful.

>> No.22840266

>>22840112
He speak da tru tru

>> No.22840324

Didn't seem long to me.
Also didn't feel out of place in the book.

>> No.22840641
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22840641

>Has perfect opportunity to depict a character displaying the morals, values and positions he is trying to convey
>Refuses to do this and instead has a author-doctor-lawyer self-insert character dictate directly to you, the reader, why his positions is superior in this situation
>Happens several times in every novel he writes

Armor, by Steakley is actually a good book about what people think Starship Troopers is about.

>> No.22840645

>>22840112
Heinlein is a pedophile, as seen clearly from many of his works.

>> No.22840653

>>22840645
All serious men are pedophiles or worse

>> No.22840669

>>22840112
because he's studied the Bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okv9CCxMQYo

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>>22840653
This is the real reason people in power despise Fascism.

>> No.22840854

I like that cover design but it’s the first edition that costs $500 bucks unfortunately

>> No.22841567

tbf, even War and Peace is interrupted by Tolstoy inserting his essays on what he thinks about Boney, the revolution and the randomness of war and tactical success. I imagine the /lit/ anons from back in the day had the same debates while reading the newest periodical on the park bench

>> No.22841571

Because not spanking children is why there were liberals and liberals are why the space navy had to take over.

>> No.22842569

>>22840641
>Refuses to do this and instead has a author-doctor-lawyer self-insert character dictate directly to you, the reader, why his positions is superior in this situation
That's like a half of why he's popular with YAs.

>> No.22842581

>>22841567
Tolstoy is alright in that regard with War and Peace because in War and Peace it feels like he's sharing he's perspective. It's in the later works that he becomes the
>"ok STUPID now listen here STUPID maybe some of my wisdom can make it through your STUPID skull into this STUPID brain of yours and make you a tiniest bit less STUPID"
asshole didactic.

>> No.22842600

>>22841571
I had a visceral cringe moment about ST when reading it back when I was 15-ish specifically at that part with Dubois where he explains to he kids that they must be severely punished for their mistakes because if they have dogs, they know that's how you must train dogs - otherwise they won't learn.

And it legitimately felt like that was the way Heinlein unironically thought at the time. He's cool, and his perpetual aggressive lack of self-awareness is like a key part of that cool.

>> No.22842615

>>22840854
Why the hell do publishers do this? Is there a market for people who buy excessively overpriced books?

>> No.22842626

>>22840112
Pretty sure he's just exploring the implications of the book's setting. An ordered society where everyone is expected to uphold the virtues of the civilization, starting in the home. Society would be unironically better if we held parents to account for the actions of their children in one way or another.

>> No.22842731

>>22842615
Yeah duh

>> No.22842765

>>22842600
Yeah I don't think he thought the mind melding with the dogs was going to be a conversation about that

>> No.22842792

>>22842731
I doubt it.

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>>22842569
Yes, they are fucking idiots that need to he told explicitly instead through subtle and repeated displays and reactions.