/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22819828]

about to start with the romans, how do i avoid the stoic-to-tranny pipeline?

[sage No.22819833]

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[Anonymous No.22819835]

>>22819828
For starters, don't take your advice from trannies. For guarantees, be a Christian. Christian thinkers have long studied the Greco-Romans, yet only a minority fall prey to sexual vices.

[Anonymous No.22819837]

>>22819828
Lucretius, but it sounds like the pipeline is about to claim another one.

[Anonymous No.22819838]

>>22819828
Commodus was leagues cooler than his dad. I honestly believe Gladiator is directly responsible for causing the Stoic meme. And thus trannies even.

[Anonymous No.22819919]

>>22819835
Christians are proto trannies

[Anonymous No.22819949]

>>22819838
we say Five Good Emperors for a reason

[Anonymous No.22819963]

more people who follow stoics are the HECK YEA EPIC MANLY MAN than literal trannys

[Anonymous No.22819970]

>>22819963
Nah but see the controlled opposition ((((the algorithm)))) dictates my stance on the matter at the time!

[Anonymous No.22820057]

>>22819828
This freak has an obvious foot fetish. He's in heels in all of his videos

[Anonymous No.22820063]

>>22819963
Stoic philosophy is just facebook mom quotes for men

[Anonymous No.22820077]

>>22819828
not watching breadtubers, for starters.

[Anonymous No.22820086]

>>22819828
>watching tranny breadtubers and not based femboy F1NN5TER
gay

[Anonymous No.22820094]

>>22819828
How can stoics be trannies? Doesn't stoicism imply you'd find peace with your own body without resorting to vain and mutilating surgeries?

[Anonymous No.22820206]

>>22820094
They can't. OP is just a disingenuous little piece of trash that uses the video of one tranny, that happens to reluctantly cover the topic of stoicism, in order to suggest that stoicism leads to abominative trannies.

[Anonymous No.22820238]

>>22819828
don't start with the romans. Greek stoicism is all about being in tune with and understanding nature. It's basically impossible to troon out if you read that instead of gay self help roman "stoics"

[Anonymous No.22820249]

>>22819828
The important part of stoicism is that cultivating internal goods of the soul is more important than anything external that happens to you. Luckily Plato already said that before and many said it after so you can just skip the Stoics if you want, although they have some interesting metaphysics if you wanna read that.

[Anonymous No.22820254]

>>22819828
you don't.

[Anonymous No.22820302]

>>22819828
It's unavoidable. The only way to escape it is to read Plato instead like a true, virile intellectual.
>>22819838
Commodus was legally a God-Emperor but preferred to be worshipped for his achievements in ancient sportsball instead. Truly embarrassing individual.

[Anonymous No.22820320]

>>22819828
Why is this thread remade repeatedly? It’s not even interesting. Bots just recycling old threads or a bot-like NPC making the same retarded thread every week or two? I get it, some anons are obsessed with troons and see them as their arch enemy

[Anonymous No.22820331]

>>22820320
It's a deliberate effort to ruin the board. As thread qualities declines, good posters have nothing holding them here and bad posters are drawn to the trash that they see. This board is already halfway to being /his/, a board that only a retard could be happy to browse.

[Anonymous No.22820332]

>>22820320
It's just retarded /pol/acks who can't think of anything else but the trannie in the room right now.

[Anonymous No.22820334]

>>22819828
becoming a tranny is about the least stoic thing you can do

[Anonymous No.22820338]

>>22820332
That’s what I think
>>22820331
Deliberate sabotage? I’ve always wondered how many come here for propagandistic and agenda driven reasons

[Anonymous No.22820682]

>>22820086
I only watch Vlad Ncl

[Anonymous No.22820708]

>>22819838
I'm convinced that Commodus actually breached the limits of stoicism

[Anonymous No.22820822]

>>22819919

No. The real Christians aren't.

[Anonymous No.22820839]

>>22819828
Stop posting ur own jewtube channel u fucking faggot ur not fooling anyone. Also YWNBAW and you will join the 50%.

[Anonymous No.22820963]

>>22819828
Would.
>>22820086
Would.
>>22819963
Truth. Stoicism as usually practiced is just gender-affirming philosophy. Be a man and do this manly stoic thing and you’ll be a real man totally just like this dead roman emperor and not like those weak effeminate men because you’re a manly man.

Sidebar: It’s always funny when /lit/ refuses to acknowledge this kind of thinking — the kind of thinking that’s like “reject effeminacy, be a man.” It’s just gender-affirming selftalk, no different in concept than a trans woman saying “I’m a woman” in a mirror. But these guys seriously think that they’re not affirming their own gender. Like you’re talking yourself into being more of what you think a man is, how is it not lmao

[Anonymous No.22821419]

>>22819835
hundreds if not thousands of catholic clergy and protestant ministers being monstrous nonces aren't a minority.

fucking christian brain rot.

[Anonymous No.22821453]

>>22819828
Where the chin fat go??

[Anonymous No.22821495]

>>22821453
>tfw he has a stronger jaw as a tranny than he used to have as a "man"
How is this even possible? Do trannies take testosterone injections in addition to estrogen for good measure?

[Anonymous No.22821513]

>>22821495
Possibly.
Some troons take testerone so they can get boners still. Nasty stuff.

[Anonymous No.22821522]

>>22820963
You're a sick man who perceives everything through the lens of a tranny. That's why other people don't see what they're doing as "gender affirming" lmao

[Anonymous No.22821766]

>>22820338
More than half of traffic to pol comes from Israel despite the flag almost never showing up until recently. There is not a doubt in my mind that while the builk of resources go into monitoring pol and ensuring that it's a cesspool which discourages rational thinkers from taking part in legitimate conversation, there are at least one or two individuals allocated to places like /lit/ which would be prone to seeing profound discussions come about. I bet you that the long pasta comprised of prose and segmented with /// is the pasta they use to catalogue threads to be monitored.

>>22820963
"Gender" is not a biological reality. There are sexes and that's it. You will never be a woman. Pull your head out of your ass, anon. You are the soul that inhabits the vessel and not the body itself. That's why there is no such thing as "being born in the wrong body." You chose to come here and you chose this body. I have absolutely zero doubt that if you took time away from modern society (I'd say three months) and went camping with no phone, no internet connection or any other modern electronic technology, fished for your daily meals, and went to sleep and woke up with the fall and rise of the sun each day, you would completely snap out of it and return home urging your former friends (and they will be former friends because they don't like "detransitioners" and you will not like them) to do the same. And they'd be better off for that as well. You are not understanding stoicism if you cannot see that I am right about this. It's about being able to see your place in nature, not about being confident in your ability to subvert it.

[Anonymous No.22821781]

you fucking nigger i remember this thread from months ago

[Anonymous No.22821784]

>>22819828
it's not gay if it's me doing the assfucking right?

[Anonymous No.22821789]

>>22820963
>wanting to appear male is the same thing as arguing that you are truly substantially female
tell me you are not this retarded

[Anonymous No.22821898]

>>22821513
>"I was born in the wrong body, I shouldn't have a dick"
>takes estrogen
>"hmm this is nice but I still want to have boners"
>takes testosterone

[Anonymous No.22821903]

>>22821513
>>22821898
uhm acktually they take viagra or cialis, and continue to use anti-androgens which block testosterone

source: i get tranny dick on the regular and they love explaining this shit

[Anonymous No.22821906]

>>22821789
He's a tranny. Of course he is retarded. But we're all a little retarded. If he can come to his senses and realize that he will never be a woman and that this supposed battle he is fighting against the system is not actually one meant to be won or lost , then there may still be hope for him when it comes to just being a little retarded like the rest of us. Trannies are nothing but a battering ram. They are but one (of many) means being used to dismantle the family and fragment society so that the masses are more easily controlled, and so on. The sooner he realizes this, the sooner he can actually be a free thinker as anyone who actually believes they are in the wrong body are having their thoughts constrained not by the limits of their language, but by the limits imposed upon them by the intentional designers of this charade. It's amazing that trannies will tell you gender this and gender that but not a single one of them even knows who came up with the term gender, and if they did know, they wouldn't admit it because the man's most famous experiment was one where he took two male twin children and had one raised as a woman and one as a male, and you can guess what happened because the markers of our respective sexes are etched into every aspect of our physical being.

[Anonymous No.22821916]

>>22819828
for stoicism you just need meditations (maybe seneca?), then jump to the greeks

[Anonymous No.22822006]

>>22819828
> how do i avoid the stoic-to-tranny pipeline?
Don't read only things that are published in your time.

[Anonymous No.22822038]

>>22819828
Stop watching this British government plant maybe.
Just don't feel yourself to a cult or religion.

[Anonymous No.22822042]

Consider the following

[Anonymous No.22822060]

>>22819828
2 pints with makeup, 7 pints without
>>22820086
>>22822042
3 pints

[Anonymous No.22822064]

>>22821522
Wrong, sorry.
>>22821766
>reeeeee everyone who disagrees with me is trans reeeeeee
Meds.
>You are not understanding stoicism
I'm not talking about stoic philosophy as philosophy, I'm talking about the cultural, gendered overtones
>>22821789
>Wanting to appear male is the same thing as arguing that you are truly substantially female
Yes. Both are delineating a gender identity. You do manly things because you want to be seen as a man, just as a woman does girly things because she wants to be seen as a girl. Conceptually, this is no different from a trans person arguing they're truly substantially female; your "argument" is actions, is appearance, is how you think of yourself. Think about it anon. When a girl likes stereotypically manly things, does manly activities, she's called a tomboy. When a man wears a dress and paints his nails, other people won't think he's a man even if he thinks of himself as one. There's a common, quiet understanding that gender is just as much what you do for other people as it is what you think of yourself. Of course biology comes into play. But not as much as you want to think.
>>22821906
>reeeeee everyone who disagrees with me is trans reeeeee
Meds. Also John Money.
>where he took two male twin children and had one raised as a woman and one as a male, and you can guess what happened because the markers of our respective sexes are etched into every aspect of our physical being
this does not prove what you think it proves. if anything it confirms that trans people are describing/embodying something true about gender.

Very funny to see you all frothing at the mouth over this inoffensive, anodyne, simple idea. Is it perhaps you're insecure in your own gender? Displaced anxieties about being man enough? It's okay anons. I think you're very masculine and very manly and so big and strong

[Anonymous No.22822066]

>>22822060
Didn't he do something weird with an underaged kid though? Like phone sex or some shit?

[Anonymous No.22822093]

>>22822064
Gender isn't real and you will never be a woman. It is not an "inoffensive" issue. It is offensive by the very definition of the word. The concept itself is an offense against nature. Anyways, enjoy your battle against nature. No need to let us know how that turns out because it's already set in stone.

[Anonymous No.22822100]

>>22819835
Christianity is the superior version of stoicism anyway

[Anonymous No.22822102]

>>22822066
gay fur fat roleplay over discord with a 16 year old who we wanted to fly out to come drink with him.

[Anonymous No.22822107]

>>22822102
>we

[Anonymous No.22822108]

>>22819828
If you are truly worried about this and it's not just a meme... you will never be a man.

[Anonymous No.22822114]

>>22822064
>Yes. Both are delineating a gender identity. You do manly things because you want to be seen as a man, just as a woman does girly things because she wants to be seen as a girl.

You're retarded because the tranny is making a truth claim about whether or not he is a woman and using his outward and inward actions to substantiate it. The former does no such thing.

[Anonymous No.22822115]

>>22822100
Which denomination?

[Anonymous No.22822128]

>reads five pages of Meditations*

[Anonymous No.22822202]

>>22819828
Stoicism is gay.

[Anonymous No.22822303]

>>22819828
Start with Livy

[Anonymous No.22822416]

>>22822042
TRANNY CAT GIRLS FOR TRVE ROMANS

[Anonymous No.22822482]

>>22822416
Peak RVME performance

[Anonymous No.22822483]

>>22822093
>triggered
it’s normal to have anxiety about your gender anon. you’re reacting so strongly. is there something you don’t want to admit? even to yourself?
>>22822114
same thing, anon. your actions and your speech are your claim to masculinity.

[Anonymous No.22822540]

>>22822093
You sound like a coping tranny desu

[Anonymous No.22822792]

>>22822540
And you sound like you will never be a woman. Tranny is a misnomer because it implies that you can transition to anything but an early grave thanks to puberty blocking pills which are all produced by a single company based in Tel Aviv. But go ahead, take your meds tranny. I'm sure a company based in a highly religious country has no ulterior motive for giving you a product that under no circumstances would they give to their own people.

[Anonymous No.22822861]

>>22822128
I really wish that didnt turn me on

[Anonymous No.22822887]

>>22822114
Projection.

Oof moment.

[Anonymous No.22822893]

>>22822792
you're very, very angry. do you sometimes feel as if you're not man enough?

[Anonymous No.22822927]

>>22822893
Yeah sometimes I like to dress up in girls clothes and it kills my sense of masculinity so I compensate by emotionally overreacting to minor situations

[Anonymous No.22822972]

>>22822893
Now you sound like you aren't even a tranny. Sound more like you are being paid to post here, moshe.

>>22822927
Oh look, Ruben has joined the chat.

Neither one of you had anything to say about where the meds are made, because you know it can be googled in a second, otherwise you'd just call me a liar. As if a tranny would even continue posting. We all know that it's too demoralizing for them to continue posting in threads where their delusions are exposed for what they are. But you guys are still here, which means you aren't actually trannies, but are heavily invested in the concept. Enlighten the thread as to your religious backgrounds, if you please.

[Anonymous No.22822981]

>>22822483
>making a claim is the same thing as not making a claim

[Anonymous No.22822984]

>>22822887
projecting pictures of my anus onto your screen, sure. but what does that have to do with the present argument?

[Anonymous No.22822988]

Why can't we have an actually good, productive thread about Stoicism?

[Anonymous No.22823021]

>>22822988
Because stoicism allows one to avoid succumbing to the influence of their external environment and conditions. There only way you can have a discussion about stoicism on 4chan is if there was some agreed-upon codeword for the concept beforehand, because the people paid to monitor this site have all sorts of keywords they use to find those threads and derail them. This one, though, was probably started by those people because who the hell begins a thread on stoicism with anything even remotely related to trannies. They are the antithesis of stoicism. In any case, if you want to discuss stoicism, it's better done offline. It's not happening on the honeypot that is 4chan.

[Anonymous No.22823046]

>>22820822
The real Christians were kikes

[Anonymous No.22823054]

>>22822066
are you even surprised at that point? someone who can make his fetish his sexual and even social identity will have boundless fetishes he doesn't reveal.

[Anonymous No.22823186]

>>22822972
>DA JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Meds. So tedious to deal with these types.
>>22822927
admittance is the first step
>>22822981
one says they're a woman with their dress, preferences, actions, and words; one says they're a man with their dress, preferences, and actions. this is a simple idea anon. not sure why you can't follow it, this is very 101 level stuff.
>>22822887
it really is projection all the way down with these types, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.22823199]

>>22821419
Now go look into the figure for public school teachers and trannies, faggot.

[Anonymous No.22823212]

>>22823186
>Meds. So tedious to deal with these types.
And yet you replied.

[Anonymous No.22823247]

>>22822988
I don't know what you were expecting given the OP

[Anonymous No.22823265]

>>22823212
tedious, yet entertaining. what can I say. I like to throw peanuts at pigs and watch them squabble over the shells

[Anonymous No.22823280]

>>22820963
>Truth. Stoicism as usually practiced is just gender-affirming philosophy. Be a man and do this manly stoic thing and you’ll be a real man totally just like this dead roman emperor and not like those weak effeminate men because you’re a manly man.
that's not what stoicism is though

[Anonymous No.22823281]

>>22819828
What's the purpose of this thread ? Is the op suggesting that a single tranny posting a video on stoicism means that all stoics are trannies ?? What kind of inferences are these ? Isn't it more probable that OP has some hate boner against stoicism for some reason and he is "memeing" things which aren't even real ? And if you point out such threads being nothing but politicisation of 4chan the newfags here claim that we are le unique contrarians don't call us out for our beliefs we are just memeing ! I guess neefags who can't even accept their motivations are biggest trannies on the planet , imagine hiding your own thoughts and biases with memes and claims of meta-irony.

[Anonymous No.22823295]

>>22821766
What's the proof of your claim ? We have public data available that shows us that 60-70% of the posters are from North America. Why do you guys don't get it that the Jews and tranny part was supposed to be a meme. The day you realise that you are the cancer that destroyed this site we will have some chance of improvement.

[Anonymous No.22823311]

>>22823265
Just because peanuts can be thrown does not mean they must be thrown. Everyone has a choice, moshe.

>>22823295
lol give it a rest Reuben. Haven't you been paying attention? We're in the end game now.

[Anonymous No.22823318]

>>22823280
>Stoicism as usually practiced
>>22822064
>I'm not talking about stoic philosophy as philosophy, I'm talking about the cultural, gendered overtones
>>22823311
>back to screeching about da joooooooooos
Go back to your containment board, the adults are having a discussion about philosophy and gender

[Anonymous No.22823327]

>>22823186
>>22822064
>tranny accuses you of projection while projecting trannyism into whatever they view.

[Anonymous No.22823335]

>>22823247
What the fuck is that image

[Anonymous No.22823336]

>>22823318
Trannies are mentally invalid.
They can never have an adult conversation because they were never mature enough to confront their own state.

[Anonymous No.22823403]

>>22821419
Yes, actually it is a minority, even more so once you include Protestants. Lie to yourself if you must.

[Anonymous No.22823435]

>>22820320
It's the only way i get (You)s. Picture this:
>make thread about author, culture (in relation to literature), etc.
>thread gets archived with no replies or gets cleaned up for being "low effort" or "off-topic"
But:
>make low effort ragebait with a tranny
>thread has nearly 100 replies by the time i come back
>doesn't get cleaned up despite being almost an exact repost (>>/lit/thread/22668632))
You're kinda asking for it if you're gonna bump my thread.

[Anonymous No.22823458]

>>22821495
Trannies get skinnier because they think no muscle = feminine, but women actually have more fat.

[Anonymous No.22823463]

>>22823046
>the real Christians are the guys who killed Christ!!!

This shithole is getting dumber and dumber every year

[sage No.22823474]

>>22823435
wow you're so cool for trying to ruin /lit/, the smallest and slowest board on the website.
What was the last book you actually read? Because right now reading this thread it seems like you're paid to do shit like this.
Which would make sense because nobody except a self obsessed retard would do what you do without being paid for it.

[Anonymous No.22823498]

>>22823474
Are you retarded? I literally said replies like these are why I do it. As long as my posts get bumped they will stay up.
And btw, the last book I finished was ironically Seneca's letters.

[Anonymous No.22823502]

>>22823474
He is a "classic contrarian" who believes himself to be some kind of giga troll. While in reality he came onto this site post 2016 and can't even speak up in a group of 5 people

[sage No.22823505]

>>22823498
And learn to read my name you spastic. I'm not bumping shit kek. You're such a paid shill newfag you don't even know what a sage is. Fuck you for being another cunt in this world that looks at it and says "I hate myself. I should make everybody else miserable too!" You literally have no life and that "book" is like 50 pages long you adhd ridden zoomer cunt. And I bet you still have nothing interesting to say about it. Back to /pol/ you waste of space.

[Anonymous No.22823580]

>>22823505
You're giving me exactly what I asked for, if this thread truly bothered you so much you would have reported and hidden it by now, but you're still here. Also, you're supposed to put that in the options field, and I can still bump my own threads after each reply, newfag. Not my problem jannies don't delete these threads.
>>22823502
I don't, really, I've ben reposting this image for months but it still works. Like I said, I'd love to have actual discussions here, but that's cleary not what this place is for.

[sage No.22823587]

>>22823580
Sage in all fields you fucking retarded newfag. Imagine how pathetic you have to be to read my post and think "this is what I want!!!". Reporting doesn't do shit (i already have, and I reported your last post too) because the jannies don't care, but mentally damaged sociopaths like you just look at it as an opportunity.
Surprise surprise. You had fuck all to say about the book you just mentioned. I bet you don't even read and you just scroll tiktok all day. If you're going to be a paid shill tranny troll then do it, but don't act like you have anything interesting to say about literature because you don't.

[Anonymous No.22823600]

>>22823587
words words words, thanks for the attention newfag

[Anonymous No.22823610]

>>22823587
I can't believe the Germans would just turn on the jews like that. How the hell does something like that happen?

[sage No.22823614]

>>22823600
And there it is. For all your posturing and ostensible superiority over the incels in this thread when it comes down to it you have nothing to say at all, let alone about literature. Enjoy your empty life, I'm going to go and actually read a book.

[Anonymous No.22823619]

>>22821419
Kill yourself retarded tranny faggot

[Anonymous No.22823621]

>>22823318
Kill yourself retarded tranny faggot, you will never be a woman.