/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22808436]

Are there any pro-natalist books? Like the opposite of pic related

[Anonymous No.22808441]

>>22808436
preferably one that doesn't involve a talking snake

[Anonymous No.22808442]

>>22808436
The Holy Bible.

[Anonymous No.22808488]

>>22808442
Matthew 19:12
1 Cor 7:27

[Anonymous No.22808492]

>>22808436
'Life is Worth Living' by Fulton J. Sheen.

[Anonymous No.22808695]

I'm not sure if this counts as pro-natalist, but it argues that the far future will be likely be a utopia where suffering no longer exists.

https://www.hedweb.com/

[Anonymous No.22808704]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Fn8yxFZO0

[Anonymous No.22808710]

>>22808695
>>22808704
>no more suffering
That's for pussies.

[Anonymous No.22808716]

>>22808442
>your kid might be tortured for a literal eternity if he doesn't kiss God's ass hard enough
>your kid won't go to hell if the kid is never born
>christcucks still think that reproducing is a good idea

[Anonymous No.22808720]

>>22808710
>suffering is LE GOOD because... IT JUST IS, OKAY?!

[Anonymous No.22808727]

>>22808720
In the tapestry of existence, adversity weaves threads of resilience and growth. Challenges, rather than being detrimental, can be viewed as catalysts for personal development and profound understanding. The crucible of suffering molds individuals, fostering empathy and compassion. It is through the crucible of hardship that the human spirit refines its capacity for endurance, forging a character that transcends the ephemeral trials of life. The profound beauty of this perspective lies in its universality, resonating across diverse philosophical frameworks and worldviews.

The crucible of hardship tempers the human spirit, cultivating virtues that extend beyond the individual. Suffering, when embraced as a transformative force, becomes a crucible that refines character and fosters a profound sense of interconnectedness with others. In this light, the experience of adversity becomes a shared tapestry woven by the collective human journey, transcending cultural and religious boundaries. It's an acknowledgment of the universal human experience, where suffering becomes a common thread that binds individuals together, fostering a shared understanding and empathy.

Within the intricate fabric of life, the tribulations we encounter act as alchemists, transmuting personal struggles into universal lessons. The crucible of suffering becomes a forge for resilience and compassion, forging a shared human experience that transcends individual narratives. In facing adversity, one not only discovers inner strength but also glimpses the interconnectedness of all human stories. Suffering, when seen through this lens, serves as a profound teacher, guiding individuals toward a deeper understanding of themselves and their place within the broader human tapestry. It is in these shared crucibles that the diverse threads of existence converge, weaving a narrative of strength, empathy, and collective growth.

[Anonymous No.22808729]

>>22808436

[Anonymous No.22808731]

>>22808727
Continental opportunistic sophistry

[Anonymous No.22808733]

>>22808729
He's right as always

[Anonymous No.22808738]

>>22808729
*you breed them

[Anonymous No.22808742]

>>22808727
Manipulatuve, gaslighting, continental sophistry trying to disprove a tautological truism

[Anonymous No.22808750]

>>22808742
I'm gonna breed you :D

[Anonymous No.22808939]

>>22808727
>muh growth
>muh personal development
What if you could achieve these things without suffering? Would you still defend it? Posthuman beings, for instance, could achieve levels of resilience and development that far surpass that of basehumans.

[Anonymous No.22809018]

>>22808436
99 precent of society is pronatalist retard, throw a rock and you will hit life affirming art.

[Anonymous No.22809460]

>>22808695
Didn't Dostoevsky attack this very notion in The Underground Man?

[Anonymous No.22809485]

>>22808695
Liggoti literally talks about that in the book

[Anonymous No.22809529]

>>22808716
reddit

[Anonymous No.22809556]

>>22808727
>In the tapestry of existence
blood meridian reference

[Anonymous No.22810424]

>>22808727
Someone grows far more in an environment where that adversity is gamified and managed to be as efficient as possible, like how people training their muscles work them in the most targeted way instead of just getting a job in construction and damaging their knees. I feel that you have too abstract and equivocating view of struggle - the children of parents who threw them out to struggle in the real world usually end up working for the children of parents who tested and cultivated them carefully. Treating society as a surrogate parent is a kind of just world fallacy when that society encourages your children to be fat retards.

>>22809556
Grubhub ad phenotype

[Anonymous No.22810450]

>>22810424
While gamifying challenges can indeed yield focused development, the analogy extends beyond individual growth to encompass a broader societal lens. It's crucial to acknowledge that not everyone starts with the same opportunities. Recognizing diverse paths to resilience ensures a more inclusive understanding of human development. The intention is not to romanticize struggle but to emphasize the shared aspects of overcoming challenges within the collective human experience. Each approach, whether more structured or seemingly chaotic, contributes to the intricate tapestry of our interconnected stories.

The analogy of society as a surrogate parent isn't meant to imply a one-size-fits-all solution but rather to highlight the collective impact on shaping individual experiences. Acknowledging societal flaws and advocating for equitable opportunities remains crucial. By fostering an environment that supports diverse approaches to growth, we contribute to a more inclusive narrative where resilience can manifest in various forms.

Ultimately, the aim is not to idealize any particular method but to encourage a nuanced understanding that accommodates the complexity of human experiences and fosters empathy for different paths taken in the pursuit of growth and resilience.