/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22803786]

Are jews the ubermensch as described by Nietzsche?
>possess the will to power
>impose their will on all of society
>embody aristocratic values
>live and succeed in the actual world instead of dreaming of a world to come
>rich
>successful
>control all aspects of society
>determine their own moral code
And is the average 4chan poster what Nietzche would describe as the last man?
>weak
>pathetic
>does not get women
>unsuccessful in life
>seeks comfort and security
>follows outdated religious morality in a futile reaction to his own nihilism
>faps
>believes that he will get what he deserves in a made up world to come while he lives and dies in the real world as a loser?

[sage No.22803802]

>>22803786
Probably the quickest but by no means exclusive way to dispel this shitty bait is to remember that Nietzsche repeatedly and emphatically preached the strength and health of the body. It‘s one of very few points on which he was entirely unambiguous across works.

[Anonymous No.22803818]

>>22803802
Jews have the highest percentage of their population that are medical doctors. Also the greatest strongman in the world is a jew. Unless you consider using steroids to be "taking care of your body."

[Anonymous No.22803872]

>>22803786
>Are jews the ubermensch as described by Nietzsche?
>>possess the will to power
>>impose their will on all of society
>>embody aristocratic values
>>live and succeed in the actual world instead of dreaming of a world to come
>>rich
>>successful
>>control all aspects of society
>>determine their own moral code

[Anonymous No.22803877]

>>22803802
On top of that, all young people serve in the IDF because of mandatory military service, and therefore have better bodies than the average eurowimp or amerilard. They also actually war with and bomb their muslim invaders instead of inviting them into their home and calling you racist for trying to arrest them for raping your women.

[Anonymous No.22803880]

These fairy tales about the Jews are all one-mensional, pathetic, delusional and full of unnecessary jealousy. There's so many great things about being Western that completely beat a handful of rich Jewish investors.

[Anonymous No.22803888]

>>22803880
>There's so many great things about being Western that completely beat a handful of rich Jewish investors.
Such as diversity, marvel movies, anti-racism, onlyfans, hypergamy, and tiktoks.

[Anonymous No.22803894]

>>22803888
> all I know about the West is libshittism and being a degenerate coomer
kill yourself loser.

[Anonymous No.22803907]

>>22803894
>> all I know about the West is libshittism and being a degenerate coomer
If you aren't then you are either a conservative (aka worshipper of israel) or a incel third positionist who is a total loser and pariah in society who has no friends and no gf.

[Anonymous No.22803912]

>>22803894
how has he lost?
controllers always ask these things
when their tempest tossed

[Anonymous No.22803919]

>>22803818
>>22803877
The medical industry, an old media anecdote, and a military industrial complex (inside a multiracial society) are not health. This attempt to distort clear understanding by sophism being a condition of mental and spiritual sickness is also one of Nietzsche‘s only unambiguous points.

[Anonymous No.22803924]

>>22803919
Being a roided gymcel who posts on /fit/ isn't health either

[Anonymous No.22803934]

jews shouldn't lurk
but do upon /lit/
they should get back
get back to being /fit/

[Anonymous No.22803938]

>>22803907
I'm none of those things. I'm an indisciplined Anglo-Saxon of Kentucky and Alabama.
>>22803912
He lost because he didn't name the Empire of Charlemagne.

[Anonymous No.22803948]

>>22803938
where in kentucky? I know a dude

[Anonymous No.22803973]

>>22803938
>lost the civil war
>lost the civil rights era
>lost your monuments
>lost your history
>lost your race
Not surprised you come from the biggest losers of the United States

[Anonymous No.22803975]

>>22803786
hmm... i proc this
>you can't have a wife because your sister will seethe

seriously stop using people like this

[Anonymous No.22803992]

>>22803948
the Anglo-Saxons of today, this one last branch, well disfigured it is true, but still somewhat resembling the ancient Germanic warriors, the undisciplined inhabitants of Kentucky and Alabama, braving at the same time the verdict of their most brave forefathers and that of the learned publisher of Irminon's Polyptique.

[Anonymous No.22803995]

There are many kinds of Jews and it makes little sense to speak about them collectively except in very restricted contexts (for example, they do somewhat band together when they feel "Jews" as a collective are threatened). What most people really mean when they speak of Jews is: (1) highly successful secular Ashkenazis, mostly those who have lived and thrived in Britain, Germany, and America over the past 2-3 centuries, (2) Eastern European Ashkenazis either expelled or emigrating from Russia and Russia's former territories during the last two centuries, and (3) Orthodox religious Jews.

These categories interpenetrate and overlap, and they also must be further subdivided (again depending on context). (1) and (2) blended into one another over the last century and a half, as Eastern European Ashkenazis fled Russia and then Eastern Europe in waves. Some fled immediately, others fled during specific persecutions, with the last waves establishing themselves in the 1930s and 1960s while fleeing illiberal regimes hostile to Jews (not just Germany but Hungary, Romania, etc.). The ones who only fled in the 1930s and 1960s were typically highly successful mercantile and professional elites in the countries from which they fled up until the time of their flight, and of course this success is a large part of what provoked their persecution.

Up until these last two "major" waves, British-American and German elite Jews were more disconnected from Eastern European Ashkenazis, although they had come from the same stock, just generations or centuries earlier. But they helped the new waves of Jews, typically educated elites with similar culture, settle in business capitals like New York and London, and to get influential academic and professional positions. Many of these also became Orthodox religious Jews and Zionists (not the same thing).

What people mean when they speak of Jewish elites is really two things: (1) the British, German, and American elite and highly influential Ashkenazis, overrepresented in all elite professions in their "host" nations and generally fully camouflaged as "assimilated," and (2) the pre-1930s/1960s Eastern European Jews who were typically usurers, alcohol distributors, shop-owners, and similar "middleman" occupations in their host countries, because when they were expelled from Russia they tended to bring these middle class trades with them and impose them on economically underdeveloped and vulnerable local populations with primitive bourgeois and petit bourgeois classes.

[Anonymous No.22804002]

>>22803995
When you combine the first group with the second group in a vague way, you get the impression that "the Jews" are some singular elite group. And indeed, as the latter shtetl types were expelled from Eastern and Central Europe, they did meld into the secular Ashkenazis in the West, and brought with them forms of radicalism that had to be accommodated by the more "assimilated"-presenting western elite Jews, who largely took on the characteristics of the local culture - for example, this is responsible for the stereotypical "elite Jewish intellectual," when actually what is meant by this is just late 19th century to early 20th century German Jews, who had all the benefits of elite German education and culture combined with Jewish literacy and tenacity. But fundamentally there is no need for a single Protocols-style Zionist meta-organization to explain these separate elites and their various historical overlaps and fusions. They are fundamentally just usurious gypsies with high in-group loyalty and a defensive posture against the out-group that hosts them.

Also, after their final migrations and the fusions which took place in the 1960s especially, they have fundamentally changed in character. The old "elite Jewish intellectual" (German-Jewish ca. 1900 intellectual) no longer exists, and in fact Israelis are pretty ordinary genetically (aside from their high incidence of genetic disorders) and have regressed to the mean cognitively. That is why Hannah Arendt said this when she visited Israel:
>In 1961, while covering the trial of Adolf Eichmann in Jerusalem, Arendt wrote a letter to Karl Jaspers that Adam Kirsch described as reflecting "pure racism" toward Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and Ashkenazi Jews from Eastern Europe. She wrote:[83]
>Fortunately, Eichmann's three judges were of German origin, indeed the best of German Jewry. [Attorney General Gideon] Hausner is a typical Galician Jew, still European, very unsympathetic... boring... constantly making mistakes. Probably one of those people who don't know any language. Everything is organized by a police force which gives me the creeps, speaks only Hebrew, and looks Arabic. Some downright brutal types among them. They would obey any order. And outside the doors, the oriental mob, as if one were in Istanbul or some other half-Asiatic country.

[Anonymous No.22804004]

>>22803973
I'm only metaphorically an indisciplined Anglo-Saxon of Kentucky and Alabama
And all people go through periods of being losers, but that doesn't make the periods of glory any less great

[Anonymous No.22804012]

>>22804002
In America and England, the special status of Jews as "elite but apart" has faded considerably along with the elite German-Jewish emigre culture that formed its core, and which has been steadily Americanized into mush. "Elite" Jews are now residually elite only, elite by wealth and station but incapable of maintaining themselves, and many of their youth are so out of touch with their Jewish identity that they rebel against it. They are also overly reliant on the American managerial state to defend them and don't understand it is badly ill.

Basically Jews, in the sense intended both Jewish chauvinists and antisemites who think Jews are an elite global cabal, are really a combination of the Greek Phanariotes of the late Ottoman Empire and the "Roma" gypsies, an itinerant Phanariote class that relies on weak local institutions and the ability to flee to greener pastures (financial capitals in other countries with many well-established and sympathetic Jews) whenever an autoimmune response is provoked.

This is well covered in pic related. There's nothing uniquely evil about Jews. They are sort of a function of an economic "gap" that has formed them in its image. They could easily have been assimilated in the 19th century. Marx has a good remark on this:
>The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.
>Bourgeois society continuously produces the Jew from its own innards.

[Anonymous No.22804016]

>>22803786
Keep telling yourself that , kike

[Anonymous No.22804029]

Are those "losers" in ukraine? It seems like they're losing... but I guess they'll print summor munny

[Anonymous No.22804030]

>>22803877
>therefore have better bodies than the average eurowimp or amerilard
Lmfao
Go to check out slavic or latin women, WAY hotter. Also, I have seen some fat ass jewish niggers serving in the IDF and not only descendants of Europeans with blue eyes and other boring features as such.

[Anonymous No.22804040]

>>22804030
yes anon the dirt poor slavs and mexicans are the ubermensch of the world

[Anonymous No.22804048]

>>22803786
The chad commies of leftypol raided /lit/ , and now weak jewish zionists try spreading their weak disgusting semen around in /lit/ …

[Anonymous No.22804058]

>>22804040
Latin does not refer to south American native mutts , and Slavic women are x10 hotter than some jewish Turkic mutts from Palestine.

[Anonymous No.22804060]

>>22804058
mexico isn't in south america retard

[Anonymous No.22804062]

>>22803786
Maybe, except they undermine their own power by relying on lies and propaganda.

[Anonymous No.22804071]

>>22804062
>lies and propaganda bad!
Sounds like something a christcuck last man would say. All aristocratic people use lies and propaganda to control the masses.

[Anonymous No.22804075]

>>22804060
Only a retard would deflect his own mental illness on others. It was nice talking to you. Have a good day, sweaty!

[Anonymous No.22804077]

>>22804071
>All aristocratic people use lies and propaganda to control the masses.
Cope harder , jewish pajeet

[Anonymous No.22804082]

>>22804075
lmao ragequitting because you lost the debate

[Anonymous No.22804103]

>>22804077
Name one government which doesn't lie then

[Anonymous No.22804142]

>>22804071
Narrative control can be achieved without lying to yourself or others. If you don't have any intuitive sense to how lies sap power you will never be this aristocat you see yourself as. You're the stereotypical easily controlled pleb. A true king really was given his authority by God, it's a way to frame the world, not a lie but you won't understand this because you're a pleb controlled by lies.

[Anonymous No.22804167]

>>22804142
>A true king really was given his authority by God
Niezsche was right. Christcucks really are retarded

[Anonymous No.22804203]

>>22804167
It doesn't even occur to you to try to understand what the claim meant before shitting on it.
The most effective appeal Islam had was based on similar logic. Retards like you will even regurgitate similar arguments about "might is right" but you never really think about anything, even the shit you regurgitate.

You don't understand anything on any level, not Nietzsche, history, religion, psychology or even basic logic. You reliably think your parroted memes are the most important factor to consider about any subject at the same time you actively refuse to even begin to study the fucking subject.

[Anonymous No.22804407]

>>22804203
>You don't understand anything on any level, not Nietzsche, history, religion, psychology or even basic logic. You reliably think your parroted memes are the most important factor to consider about any subject at the same time you actively refuse to even begin to study the fucking subject.
Ironic considering your very own claim was based on the same tired /pol/ memes about the jews success being attributable entirely to them be le evil with no evidence to back up your claim. Your post is pure projection and applies to you doubly so.

[Anonymous No.22804463]

>>22804407
>the jews success being attributable entirely to them be le evil
I didn't say that, you put words in my mouth based on stale memetic programming.
I said maybe, as in yes they have some admirable attributes and then pointed out the one big flaw I see.
The current Israeli media nonsense is exemplifying the point. I sympathize with them conceptually as an advanced, educated state doing productive things and being undermined by violent elements. The blatant propaganda and dishonesty loses all the points they have with me, I don't want anything to do with people that act like that. If you allow yourself to for example get caught up in tragedy porn about dead babies that opens you up to be completely controlled by propaganda. Educated people should understand these things so the fact they don't act accordingly means they think propaganda and lies are justifiable if they serve the right end. If you do this kind of stuff it means I can't trust you, if our interests were ever to not align you would use all these tricks against me, undermining any roads to a productive resolution of our differences.

[Anonymous No.22804467]

>>22804463
Then stop avoiding the question and name one government that doesn't lie or utilize propaganda, I'll wait

[Anonymous No.22804470]

>>22803818
>Also the greatest strongman in the world is a jew
Strongest in the 1910s, maybe.

[Anonymous No.22804475]

>>22804470
Everyone after 1930 doesn't count because they all roided and therefore made everyone natty irrelevant. And roiding is the opposite of caring about the health of your body.

[Anonymous No.22804484]

>>22804475
jewish cope

[Anonymous No.22804491]

>>22804467
Why would I try to do that? What's the logic there? Overemphasis on GDP is also not productive but all governments do that. Your question implies you think the behaviour of governments define what works and what's stupid, but you don't actually believe that so you're just confusing yourself with nonsense to avoid thinking about what I've said.

[Anonymous No.22804496]

>>22804484
Jews are also the most knowledgable about biohacking and hypertrophy optimization but that's besides the point

[Anonymous No.22804506]

>>22804491
You conflate the jews with the Israeli government and then you criticize the government for behaving in the way all governments behave. Your entire argument is just a massive irrational cope and does not disprove the clear Nietzschean spirit embodied by the jewish people as laid out in the OP.

[Anonymous No.22804508]

>>22804467
I'm trying to understand what point this is supposed to make. Are you trying to conflate the extreme Israeli propaganda campaigns dominating all media right now with more banal everyday lies of the government of Tonga or whatever?

[Anonymous No.22804510]

>>22804058
Latin refers to anyone who speaks a Latin language.

[Anonymous No.22804519]

>>22803786
>ubermensch is when I come from a rich nepotistic family
lol kys

[Anonymous No.22804521]

>>22804519
That's what being an aristocrat means retard

[Anonymous No.22804553]

>>22804521
not what ubermensch means

[Anonymous No.22804615]

>>22804553
read the rest of the post

[Anonymous No.22804622]

>>22804615
it all goes back to nepotism. All that already existed in Nietzsche's time (and before). Again, not what ubermensch means.

[Anonymous No.22804625]

There are like three threads bashing NEETzsche right now here on /lit/. Nieyzsche-tards must be on suicide watch lmao

[Anonymous No.22804637]

No one gives a shit what all you jews did at summer camp

[Anonymous No.22804638]

>>22804622
Massive cope. Not their fault you come from a slave morality family that set you up for failure.

[Anonymous No.22804642]

>>22804637
We banged your mom. Do you give a shit now or are you a shitty son?

[Anonymous No.22804654]

>>22804642
Nerve struck!

[Anonymous No.22804655]

>>22804642
So you admit you're a Jew? lmao fucking ovendodger. Go back.

[Anonymous No.22804662]

>>22804638
Very funny fantasy, Shlomo. Unfortunately that's not an argument and that's not what übermensch means. Try again.

[Anonymous No.22804663]

>>22804655
Yeah, I'm a jew and I literally own your house, your belongings, and your life. Now, GO THE FUCK BACK TO WORK SO WE CAN GET YOUR TAXES AND BUY MORE MISSILES TO THROW TO PALESTINIAN KIDS TO SACRIFICE TO MOLOCH, YOU FUCKING SUBHUMAN GOY PIECE OF KAKA!

[Anonymous No.22804665]

>>22804662
The argument is in the OP, you have refused to engage with it because you have no argument

[Anonymous No.22804670]

>>22804665
All that already existed in Nietzsche's time and before. It was called the elite and the royal class. Not what übermensch means.

[Anonymous No.22804676]

>>22803786
>misinterpreting N this hard
Really gets the noggin jogging if OP is implying that Nietzsche thinks the Rothchilds are "master moralists". ie, a family dynasty who are unconcerned with values like empathy, compassion, and other social-based values is what N strives for when he doesn't state this. Also, Jews are slave moralists ( Judeo-Christianity, complaining about the holobunga, complaining about getting screwed by their host societies, ma anti-Semitism, etc)

A misconception is that two of these morals are separate when they need each other. N also doesn't say we need to discard the slaves and all be masters, this is a simplification. Master and slave morality are a genealogical explanation for our modern-day moral ideas. This means our modern-day moral ideas are descended from both: the intermingling of master and slave morality. We hold presumptions related to both within our thought process even today. This produces tension and sometimes unhealthy regulation of the master/slave relationship within the self. This is what Nietzsche is trying to address. He felt it was the master morality, which is ultimately derived from the pagan Greeks, which had been largely suppressed, even though its moral footprint was still within every individual human.

He wanted to make the master morality: understood once more; palatable once more. He had to bring into the light that this domineering, indifferent, self-centered aspect exists within the human being, and force the European mind to accept the truth of its existence, even though the society was currently enchanted by Christian pro-slave morals. Now, modern-day Nietzsche fan edge lords riff on the idea that "you should be more like a master than a slave", which always involves abstract ideals of independence and self-determination, or outright parasitism and immorality made into virtues by that same token. Mostly, the people who talk like this are not actually independent and have not self-determined anything; they all end up justifying parasitism in the end because it is a form of existence that they end up living by. And is that admirable? Is that what Nietzsche saw coming up, as his future audience, his philosophers of the future, A bunch of cynical parasites?

[Anonymous No.22804677]

>>22804663
Lack of foreskin causes them to seethe like neurotics LOL

[Anonymous No.22804705]

>>22803786
>Rich
>”Will to Power”
Jewish morality (Judeo-Christianity) is based on an inverse of master morality out of resentment (Basically everyone outside their view is a Roman goyim barbarian occupying them), rather than as positioning its own values (e.g. the master values strength, so this I hate the master, so, therefore, I say that vitality is bad and weakness, conservatism, and rebelling against the Roman morality is good). Your thinking is too economically based, even if a Jew is a banker, he can still have slave moralist tendencies; which a lot of them do. Nietzsche doesn't speak of power as in political power but cultural, like an artist, and Jews are known for always comparing their being to others and having these disproved and and often respect issues and views, so in turn their has to be something special about them to fit their narrative. So that means the slave is unable to escape the master-slave dichotomy since their morality relies on a master figure (real or imagined) to be opposed to when Nietzsche says that to be free we should posit our own values.

Not even N follower, just explaining what he was trying to say the best I could.

[Anonymous No.22804713]

>>22804670
What do you think it means then?

[Anonymous No.22804730]

>>22804676
>Rothchilds are "master moralists". ie, a family dynasty who are unconcerned with values like empathy, compassion, and other social-based values
Rothschilds are a very philanthropic and social welfare family
>Judeo-Christianity
No such thing
>Also, Jews are slave moralists
>A misconception is that two of these morals are separate when they need each other
Contradicted yourself
>He had to bring into the light that this domineering, indifferent, self-centered aspect exists within the human being, and force the European mind to accept the truth of its existence, even though the society was currently enchanted by Christian pro-slave morals.
And these are the very traits that /pol/-minded individuals stigmatize in the jews. In their mind the jews are the epitome of these values.

[Anonymous No.22804751]

>>22804705
>Jewish morality (Judeo-Christianity) is based on an inverse of master morality out of resentment (Basically everyone outside their view is a Roman goyim barbarian occupying them), rather than as positioning its own values (e.g. the master values strength, so this I hate the master, so, therefore, I say that vitality is bad and weakness, conservatism, and rebelling against the Roman morality is good)
You are describing the mentality of the average /pol/ user ie jews are successful by taking care of their own therefore that is le evil nepotism or usury etc.
>So that means the slave is unable to escape the master-slave dichotomy since their morality relies on a master figure (real or imagined) to be opposed to when Nietzsche says that to be free we should posit our own values.
Literally how the jewish boogeyman is seen in the eyes of /pol/. They have to be scapegoated because otherwise there is nothing for /pol/ to base its own values.

[Anonymous No.22804810]

>>22804751
This isn’t about denying self determination, but if helping their own tribe means causing irritable social problems in the host nations, like creating parallel societies and lobbying in governments like what APAC does, I’d say the Rothchids “charity” will always be intertwined in the how they view “The Other.” And I can tell you their “charity” helped fund very important wars.

Jews are single mindlessly obsessed with how gentiles run their nations. For example, those ideologically enthusiast lib Reform Jews are the worst because we’re still feeling the consequences of their radial insanity even today in history. Jews in the United States had grandparents who were Bolsheviks and their parents were toxic New Left radicals and somehow the third Is generation maybe even worse (and is definitely the stupidest)?

> ou are describing the mentality of the average /pol/ user
I’m describing the mode of thinking when Jews get involved in politics, Left or Right, it’s about this view of the other, and this fanatical expression to tear down the imagined or real view of the master all down by any means, (Ma 6-grillion). It’s 100% slavish, and Jews do this all the time in the United states.

[Anonymous No.22804841]

>>22804810
>I’m describing the mode of thinking when Jews get involved in politics, Left or Right, it’s about this view of the other, and this fanatical expression to tear down the imagined or real view of the master all down by any means, (Ma 6-grillion). It’s 100% slavish, and Jews do this all the time in the United states.
Again, you're basically just describing /pol/'s view of trying to tear down "the imagined or real view" of their jewish masters by any means. The way you portray reform jews equally applies to social justice christian churches or leftists in general. Conservative jews like Prager or Shapiro pretty adamantly support upholding western culture and values, not tearing it down.
>Jews are single mindlessly obsessed with how gentiles run their nations
Everybody is "obsessed" with how the nations in which they exist are run. Blacks participate in BLM groups to protest their treatment by police and tear down statues of Confederate generals, Asian people had StopAsianHate, gay people advocate for being allowed to get married, have children and have access to medical care, muslims advocate against islamophobia in the west.

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22804912]

>>22803818
"It is certainly also connected with the influence of the Jewish spirit that medicine, to which the Jews turn themselves in such droves, has taken its present development. Always, from the savages up until the contemporary natural therapy movement, from which the Jews typically have kept themselves aloof, all medical craft had something of the religious, the medicine man was the priest. The merely *chemical* direction of the medical craft - that is Judaism." - Weininger

[Anonymous No.22804926]

>>22804912
yes you would all still be practicing voodoo and witchcraft if jews had not created scientific medicine

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22804932]

>>22804926
There is nothing scientific about virology and vaccines.

[Anonymous No.22804939]

>>22804932
eradication of polio, significantly lower rates of death from infection after discovery of penicilin, significant decrease of infant mortality, massive increase in life expectancy, etc.

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22804951]

>>22804939
Polio was redefined as many other diseases, including Guillane-Barre syndrome.

[Anonymous No.22804955]

>>22804951
good job ignoring the rest of the points in my post to focus on some retarded fake conspiracy bullshit

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22804959]

>>22804939
>>22804951

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22804962]

>>22804955
I'm focusing on what's important.

[Anonymous No.22804966]

>>22804962
this is a nietzsche thread

[Anonymous No.22805199]

>>22804506
>You conflate the jews with the Israeli government
No I didn't, you're desperate to avoid sincerely thinking about anything. The example given is about the behaviour of the people that are now spreading propaganda globally. These are patterns of behaviour that undermine inquiry and human power over the world, similar to your dishonesty in the thread. It's like no part of you is interested in understanding any different perspectives, all you can do is try to sell something and you don't care how much you have to lie or undermine productive processes like the process of inquiry to sell whatever you're selling.

[Anonymous No.22805263]

>>22803786
>Are jews the ubermensch
Ubermensch doesn't exist yet and possibly cannot exist. Let me change your queastion:
"Are jews the the people capable of creating the ubermensch?"
No, jewish culture does not have an advantage or disadvantage in pursuing it. It is ordinary in its ability. Perhaps it is worse than something like japanese culture because jewish culture is sucking on its own poison.
>And is the average 4chan poster what Nietzche would describe as the last man?
Not your strawman.

[Anonymous No.22805309]

>>22803818
Sandow was a Jew?
Everything I know has been upturned

[Anonymous No.22806204]

>>22805199
Wtf are you even talking about? Why the fuck would trying to garner sympathy for your cause after an invasion by an enemy nation "undermine inquiry and human power over the world." You say that I am dishonest but you repeatedly make the most retarded claims and nonsensical statements to defend your position. And literally wtf have I been dishonest about? I'm just making my argument that you don't engage with at all except for cryptic statements that are completely irrelevant to the question.
>you can do is try to sell something and you don't care how much you have to lie or undermine productive processes like the process of inquiry to sell whatever you're selling
Case in point

[Anonymous No.22806206]

>>22805263
>No, jewish culture does not have an advantage or disadvantage in pursuing it. It is ordinary in its ability.
Then why are they the most successful people in the world?

[Anonymous No.22806276]

>>22803888
>onlyfans
The owner is a jew, interestingly.

>>22803888
>marvel movies
Hollywood is a jew dominated industry, as everybody knows. And if you doubt it, you just have to look up what happens with actors/actresses who support Palestine and how they are boycotted.

I don't even need to get conspiratory. Just plain facts here.
But you had me on the beginning, OP.
I don't know what I can make out of this.

[Anonymous No.22806278]

>>22806276
Dominating the cattle population through subversion of their culture is very aristocratic and ubermensch

[Anonymous No.22806311]

>>22803786
Why did the “ubermensch” cower in terror as the Arabs raped and kidnapped their women?

[Anonymous No.22806313]

>>22803818
Sandow was on testosterone you fucking retard. He was getting bull seminal fluid and all kinds of shit injected into him. He wasn't "natty". Also being the most marketed as the strongest man means jackshit. All the strongest men in the world by far today are scandinavians and always have been

[Anonymous No.22806330]

>effortlessly dominate the entirety of the white race without a single weapon, to such an extent that well over half of all western white “people” are openly cheering on their own replacement
KEK

[Anonymous No.22806333]

>>22806311
Wdym they're raping the palestinians as we speak for their attack

[Anonymous No.22806338]

>>22806313
>bull seminal fluid
This isn't testosterone you fucking retard lmaoooo

[Anonymous No.22806351]

>>22806206
I'm sorry to tell you this anon but running an investment bank or being a hollywood scriptwriter doesn't make you an ubermensch

[Anonymous No.22806354]

>>22806313
>All the strongest men in the world by far today are scandinavians and always have been
Because they are naturally very low t so they respond the best to exogenous AAS

[Anonymous No.22806355]

>>22806351
If being rich, successful, and influential doesn't make you ubermensch then at does? Being a bitter incel NEET?

[Anonymous No.22806356]

>>22803818
Roided out freak who still looks like an old guy youd see at Planet Fitness? This is Jewish excellence kek

[Anonymous No.22806369]

>>22806355
>If being rich, successful, and influential doesn't make you ubermensch
Do you believe bill gates is an example of an ubermensch? More fundamentally, why would appealing to a mass market of slave cattle make someone superhuman?

[Anonymous No.22806377]

>>22806356
He predated roids
You look up to tiktok influencers who have gender dysphoria.

[Anonymous No.22806381]

>>22806369
Bill Gates literally fucked and probably impregnated hundreds of irl lolis at Epstein island with no legal consequences. I'd say that's ubermensch.

[Anonymous No.22806389]

>>22806381
>I'd say that's ubermensch.
Then we've identified the issue (you're dumb)

[Anonymous No.22806412]

>>22806389
I can tell you haven't made love to any lolis in your life

[Anonymous No.22806437]

>>22806412
Was making love to lolis a transformative experience for you? How did that lead to your current position vis a vis the ubermensch?

[Anonymous No.22806593]

>>22806437
nice try fbi

[Anonymous No.22806629]

>>22806593
Does that make the fbi slave moralists?

[Anonymous No.22806642]

>>22806369
>Do you believe bill gates is an example of an ubermensch? More fundamentally, why would appealing to a mass market of slave cattle make someone superhuman?
because he manages to make people adhere to his vitalist moral compass, which is exactly what Nietzsche defines as the overman.

[Anonymous No.22806678]

>>22806642
>because he manages to make people adhere to his vitalist moral compass
you mean the gates foundation funding malaria vaccines and poop treatment plants?

[Anonymous No.22806689]

>>22806642
What exactly is vitalist about what any of these elites do?

[Anonymous No.22806713]

>>22806689
see >>22806381

[Anonymous No.22806761]

>>22806713
So semitic style perversion is vitalism? I knew Nietzsche was gay but is that really what he considers vital? I doubt it

[Anonymous No.22806772]

>>22806761
>prime cunny is le BAD!
seethe roastie

[Anonymous No.22807123]

>>22803786
Considering he begrudged the Nazarene that, no. He acknowledges the strength of the animus that carries them fueled by world historic grudges as formidable AS DECADENCE distilled. It's a degree removed but where he's speaking of mawkish, womanish, slavish attributes of Christianity in drag within Wagner's plays, it's every bit putting a mirror to the Good Old Book persons' source material: they are quite fallen from the days of Exodus going around conquering Canaanites what Nietzsche loves about the Old Testament is the Sumerian wholesale plagiarism sections

>>22803802
Running on the fumes of a people Preteristically reckoned with by Titus in the Second Temple scouring with sheer hate bespeaks a hardened will, but it is nonetheless the 'strength' of the inferior in an inferior position, and requires valuation gymnastics to sustain. They're neurotic for a whole slate and millennia of good reasons.

>>22804951
>giga Salk vaccine levels of injury

It's going to be a very spicey rest of the century, but we may just make the permanent leap to the stars finally, without geopolitical crab bucket Cold Wars endlessly relegislated despite the Enemy being quite literally a cargo cult Potemkinly propped up by perfidious 5th column likes of Kissingers and Schwab type acolytes. Everything said to this point on Good Old Bookers applies double to their Marxist-Lenninist kibbutz gulags for gentiles cousins; the inversion of original values and metaphysics of Good, True and Beauty in antiquity is explicated perfectly by international socialism in light of picrel, and even with its atheism requires the laundering of schoolmarm moralizing and Procrustiean atomistic 'souls' qualitatively identical-- hence higher and lower, good and bad, a table of values in status quo ante transvaluation of this titanic inversion of life itself imploded into the fictional hereafter and anywhere elsewhere but here.

[Anonymous No.22807177]

>>22807123
>they are quite fallen from the days of Exodus going around conquering Canaanites
Yeah now they've only conquered the entire western world

[Anonymous No.22807231]

>>22803786
Historically they're just stupid money grubbing parasites who invariably reach too far and get pogrom'd.

That's what's going to happen this time too, so no, they are not the ubermensch, that's why they have never had a civilization of their own.

[Anonymous No.22807238]

>>22806772
No, you're a cuck with shit on your lips from licking too much Jewish boot.

The Ubermensch redefines morality. If you just want to meme about getting pussy than Andrew Tate is ten times the ubermensch Bill Gates is because he did the same thing but with 1/1000th the effort.

Neither are. They're both effeminate retards who parrot other peoples' morality. You have a childish and shallow understanding of Nietzsche.

[Anonymous No.22807244]

>>22807177
They ineptly and to their own almost certain demise attempted to manipulate the western world, resulting in literally everyone hating them and calling for their genocide to now be a regular purity test on the Left AND the far right.

They're all going to die, which is good, but why of all times would you pick now to hedge bets on them?

[Anonymous No.22807378]

>>22807231
>that's why they have never had a civilization of their own
They did though, and they still do now

[Anonymous No.22807382]

>>22807238
>The Ubermensch redefines morality
We all now live in a postmodern world as was defined by jewish intellectuals

[Anonymous No.22807386]

>>22807244
>They're all going to die, which is good, but why of all times would you pick now to hedge bets on them?
I doubt that Hamas is going to defeat Israel. They had a successful surprise attack but Gaza is pretty much getting flattened now.

[Anonymous No.22807493]

>>22807244
>They're all going to die
They aren't. I know that that's what you wish would happen, but it's not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.22808258]

>>22803786
What new values have they created? For me, new values are the major criterion for determining whether someone has qualities of an Ubermensch- otherwise, we might as well worship Saudi kings for being able to do whatever they want thanks to their wealth and power, or if you want to look at it obliquely, game developers who are basically ur-gods of future worlds- and whose work will serve as the foundation for future realms of living. I think the Ubermensch is someone who excels in both life and eternity- an individual able to affirm bodily existence while also communing with universal ideas which go beyond the transient and particular- and it's not for the amount of power he exerted or women he fucked but the ideas he brought for- for which he will be remembered. I will give credit to Jews for having contributed so many brilliant scientists, however- they have my respect for giving us Einstein- I'll give you that that.

[Anonymous No.22808279]

>>22807493
Iran gets closer to nukes by the day shlomo

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22808297]

>>22808279
No nukes. Only nuke psyops.

[Anonymous No.22808349]

>>22808258
>What new values have they created?
Post-modernism, egalitarianism, anti-racism.

[Anonymous No.22808383]

>>22808279
I guess starting a nuclear confrontation with a country the size of New Jersey to own the Jews is totally sensible to you.
Besides, the majority of Jews don't live in Israel lol

[γρηγορεύω !!J89a5VVZH9B No.22808443]

>>22808258
Einstein is a psyop. Nothing he did has anything to do with reality. What he did was seed the narratives the elites would have people believe in into peoples' minds.

[Anonymous No.22808466]

>>22808349
nta but aren't these just the transvaluation of values that nietzsche abhorred? if israel controlled america and by extension the west it would be one thing but this is just the great levelling.

>[They] dared to invert the aristocratic value equations, good = noble = beautiful = happy = favored-of-the-gods and maintain, with the furious hatred of the underprivileged and impotent, that “only the poor, the powerless, are good; only the suffering, sick and ugly, truly blessed. But you, noble and mighty ones of earth will be, to all eternity, the evil, the cruel, the avaricious, the godless, and thus the cursed and the damned!”

>They do not call themselves the weak, they call themselves the “good.”

[Anonymous No.22808480]

>>22808466
Seems like Nietzsche contradicts himself, saying people should create their own values but not the values he doesn't like

[Anonymous No.22808502]

>>22803786
There are very few Jews. They are mostly Khazars, larping as Jews. They may not even be Khazars. They may be a separate group altogether, that assumed control of the Khazar area prior to their ascension to empire. The Chinese called them ''the name stealers'' because they would kill travelling traders and assume their identities.

[Anonymous No.22808538]

>>22808502
>There are very few Jews
True but they're still around

[Anonymous No.22808603]

>>22803786
Why does even focus on Nietzsche instead of
Wittgenstein. He clearly topped most of these ethical and metaphysical problems.

[Anonymous No.22808652]

>>22803786
According to the big faggot himself, yes. Nietzsches ideal state was jewish finance priests ruling over a german russian ethnostate.

[Anonymous No.22808753]

>>22808502
RNA y haplogroup analysis says otherwise

[Anonymous No.22808786]

>>22803818
Jews are also extremely inbred and prone to things like Tay-Sach's disease, osteoporosis/arthritis, poor digestion, autoimmune disorders, and a slew of hormonal and psychological issues. Not what I'd consider the picture of health, but I guess when your god decides that the only way to maintain your ethnicity is to be crapped out of some hatchet-faced woman that's outnumbered 2-1 by Jewish "men," I guess that's what you've got to work with.

[Anonymous No.22808818]

>>22803877
The vast majority of women posing in IDF uniforms are Romanian/Ukrainian/Russian prostitutes and failed models that have been paid by Israel to pretend to be IDF soldiers, or representations of Jewish women. In reality, the average Jewish woman looks like picrel, or is some skinny, hook-nosed goblin with a voice like a harpy. Both will age like milk.

[Anonymous No.22809517]

>>22804939

What is "scientific" about there being more life?

[Anonymous No.22809752]

>>22808818
About 12.5% of Israel's Jewish population is Russian

[Anonymous No.22809756]

>>22808786
They also have an average IQ of 125 so there's that