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thread rule: no andrew roberts' napoleon

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>> No.22803866

Ian Kershaw is a must .
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=E7A7EF39537797358250FAE8AA6C7CAE
https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=D8D6AD748D8BCA241E107911BB59C595

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Chernow's prose is really good. And Hamilton is a fascinating, tragic figure.

>> No.22803882

I read about half of Tim Blanning's biography of Frederick until I realised I hated Frederick and stopped

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>>22803882
I had this problem with David Mccullough's "John Adams". Adams is such a boring dislikable faggot compared to the other Founding Fathers.

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>>22803728
English version exists, published in US around 1930's if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.22804299

>>22803728
Autobiography. Executive outcomes: against all odds by Eeben Barlow

>> No.22804409

>>22803885
I'm reading this right now actually. I read Issacson's biography of Benjamin Franklin directly before and Adams was indeed depicted as a prick. Nonetheless, he did become the 2nd president. Was there any good parts in the biography at least?

>> No.22804432

>>22804409
Tbh the most interesting stuff imo is when Adams is emissary to Europe during the revolution. His presidency is kind of interesting, you have the whole quasi-war with France; theres some interesting stuff about French espionage in America if I remember correctly. The Alien and Seditions acts debate is a thing.
It's not like John Adams is an actually boring historical figure. The arc of his career is long, so by following his life you are covering a very respectable chronology of America. He's only boring if you compare him to other Founding Fathers, which you cannot help but do.
I also think Mccullough is a somewhat mediocre stylist, he reminds me of Robert Massie and Andrew Roberts in that their books cover great subjects but the books themselves are not individually great. Earlier the Ron Chernow Alexander Hamilton was posted: Chernow is an excellent stylist compared with those two other guys, imo.

>> No.22804503

Look up The National Book Award section on biography and Fivebooks website for recommendations.

>> No.22804661

>>22803781
Never knew how handsome this guy was. I thought he was always a fat balding guy.

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>>22804661
He became fat and balding, but young Nappy was a twink

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I'm reading this rn

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>> No.22804940

>>22803728
Can highly recommend Edmund Morris's three-volume biography of Theodore Roosevelt. Finished the second one just recently, gonna read through the third one after Christmas.

After reading these books, Teddy Roosevelt has become my favorite President

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>>22804940
pic related

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>>22803781
>>22803728
I'm thinking about making a /lit/core meme where Napoleon A Life is on it

>> No.22804985

>>22803882
What's wrong with him? I recently ordered this exact book

>> No.22805003

>>22804940
Teddy Roosevelt is a fascinating guy. I've only read Doris Kearns' Bully Pulpit, but that wasn't really a biography of Teddy per se. Morris is on the wishlist to be sure.

>> No.22805045

>>22804842
I've heard part of the reason this book is so good (and weird) is due to it being ghostwritten. Would you agree? Own it but haven't read it yet.

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>>22803728
there's some great literary biographies out there, this one's incredible

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>>22803728
Actually rec'd Cooper's bio earlier this year in a Calasso thread iinm
Glad to see it up

>> No.22805096

>>22805067
His bios of Thoreau and Wm James are excellent as well

>> No.22805127

Any good biographies on Vlad the Impaler?

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Russian General in the White Army during the Soviet Takeover. Explicitly names the Jew

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>>22805127
Vlad III Dracula - Kurt Treptow

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>>22805173
thank you

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>>22805067
>>22803728
here's another amazing literary biography. holmes also wrote a magisterial biography of Coleridge in two volumes that will likely never be surpassed.
>>22805096
haven't read the James bio, but the Thoreau bio is also stellar agreed

>> No.22805347

>>22803885
His son and great grandson mog the shit out of him. Henry Adams was probably the most aristocratic writer in American history right next to his other friend Henry (and that’s a good thing)

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>>22805476
Never knew he was such a chad before reading it. I thought americans were just inventing their own great people to fit in.

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>>22805341
Yeah, Richardson really makes one feel Thoreau's youthfulness, paints a picture of him contrary to the usual perception of him as being perpetually rather old. In the case of James I hadn't realized what a 'late bloomer' he was, how much pressure Henry's early successes had exerted on him (almost to a standstill) and the weird effect he had on his sister Alice (who was probably in love with him until the day she miserably died)

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Plan on reading about Cotton or Increase Mather next

>> No.22805994

>>22805127
Matei Cazacu. You better know French or be prepared to pay like two hundred dollars for the english translation by Brill, though.

>> No.22806205

>>22805524
Seconding this one. Excellently written, and scholarly too. He is very source critical

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Biography about Richard the Lionheart

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>>22803781
>>22804769
Which of these is recommended for someone who knows very little about Napoleon and the French revolution

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Really good kino right here

>> No.22807036

>>22806967
Napoleon A Life is one of the best books I've read, I would say it does a good job of explaining the period and what was going on diplomatically while being a good biography

>> No.22807081

>>22806967
Roberts is more informative; Cronin is more literary. Anyway it doesn't really matter which Napoleon bio you read, by those two or otherwise.
Napoleon's life is in the absolute highest tier of 'interesting persons'; it is IMPOSSIBLE to fuck up a biography of Napoleon, it will ALWAYS be a fascinating read because he was a fascinating man. When a subject is great, the book follows suit.

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Partisan, chatty, enjoyable

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>>22807689
Brave tales of Ulysses, or rather Tecumseh ii

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>>22804667
I was very lucky to randomly open that book at a library and be confronted with a couple of pages worth where Caro goes deep into Sam Rayburn's backstory. Not anything too elegant, just wistful, dignified, sad. A man consumed by duty who watched over a former lover's children from afar, a man who had so much power yet wept because he never had a son to fish with. I don't know how he manages to find out all those small details, but he truly is a master.

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>>22810202
Definitely if not definitively KINO
Same holds for her Jefferson bio

>> No.22810900

Plutarch is the only good biographer

>> No.22810917

>>22810900
It’s another episode of “/lit/izen with no personality hides behind the classics to avoid criticism”. Here’s your upvote for mentioning /lit/approved book

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>>22810900
He's great.

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>>22810900
>>22811669
Have the anons here had any luck in finding either the original text or the North translation? I‘m becoming a bit of a language purist and think my romance background will be good enough to flail through latin in a few years (at least for practice) but would also be interested in reading the version that influenced Shakespeare so heavily.

Strangely enough, especially for works which should be public domain, I have come up absolutely empty on both counts (without paying excessive costs for a fraction of the text.)

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The Twelve Caesars

https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/suetonius/the-lives-of-the-caesars/j-c-rolfe

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>>22810917
This