German literature

[Anonymous No.22791808]

This is perhaps an oddly specific request, but I was wondering if you could recommend contemporary German literature or perhaps even podcasts or YouTube videos where literature is discussed in German, perhaps similar to what "Das Literarische Quartett" with Marcel Reich-Ranicki used to be. I'm not asking because I have a particular interest in this type of literature, but because German is my native language and I feel like my vocabulary has atrophied and I'm no longer able to write or speak eloquently simply because almost all of my communication, even my thoughts, are in English. I feel like I can't put my thoughts into words anymore, and I'm hoping that more exposure to the language can help with that. I would also appreciate any other tips or ideas you may have.

[Anonymous No.22791869]

>>22791808
Once you find Literatur ist Alles on YouTube all other contemporary channels fall short. No one on Literarisches Quartett and Lesenswert Quartett is impressive in terms of eloquence anymore.

Why don’t you just read in German? Your fluency would go up if you’d explore your own culture instead of following the memes of the eternal anglo

[Anonymous No.22791872]

>>22791808
Just avoid LogoDaedalus' "German lessons" and you'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.22792002]

>contemporary German literature
Lol. Lmao even.

[Anonymous No.22792040]

You will never understand german literature unless you know german. all you american english speaking Hegelians are LARPers. Also, the way Hegel wrote in german is using super aristocratic old german which is very hard for the nuGermans to even understand

[Anonymous No.22792095]

>>22791808
>Jenny Erpenbeck

Clean contemporary prose.

>Sebald
>Robert Walser
Right feel for what you're describing.

>Peter Handke
>Lichtenberg
Aphorisms

>Schopenhauer
Anglophile, lean lucid prose style. Revisit Goethe, Holderlin & Rilke's poems.

>>22791808
>I feel like my vocabulary has atrophied and I'm no longer able to write or speak eloquently simply because almost all of my communication, even my thoughts, are in English

picrel came to America from Spain at 13, and his opening lines on the effects of learning English on one's thinking are absolutely a propos (and arguably the best opening lines/pages of any novel in the last century). I'd be miserly about what fiction you read in English in the future so as not to poison this dysfluency malaise further; there are heaps of middling prose stylists in nu 'canon' that are not remotely worth preserving. You have my sympathies and I sincerely hope you enjoy and find commiseration in picrel.

[Anonymous No.22792102]

Are there any good realist/naturalist authors of the 19th and early 20th century?

[Anonymous No.22792115]

>>22792102
Hauptmann

[Anonymous No.22792292]

>>22792040
>>22792002
I'm German and live in Germany, but I work in an international team and communicate almost exclusively in English, apart from socializing on the weekends, but that's still very little practice in the language if you don't use it all the time.

The main reason I asked specifically for contemporary literature, even though I despise it, is precisely because the language is applicable in today's world.

[Anonymous No.22792298]

Mein Kampf by Adolf Shitler

[Anonymous No.22792312]

>>22792292
>>22791808
"Das Literarische Quartett" is not that old, just go look at their recommendations?

[Anonymous No.22792333]

>>22791808
Wie der erste Anon schon geschrieben hat: Schau dir "Literatur ist alles" auf YouTube an. Markus Gasser ist der OG, da kommt keiner ran.
Bezüglich Bücher kann ich dir Thomas Mann ans Herz legen. Buddenbrooks und der Zauberberg sind die besten Anlaufstellen. In einer ähnlichen Liga spielen für mich Stefan Zweig und Hermann Hesse. Bei ersterem kann man eigentlich alles lesen, bei letzterem empfehle ich jedem der danach fragt "Demian". Wenn es etwas moderner und lockerer sein darf, dann Erich Kästner - Der Gang vor die Hunde, oder, mein persönlicher Favorit, Jörg Fauser - Rohstoff.
Der beste deutschsprachige Schriftsteller meiner Meinung nach ist Ernst Jünger. Sein Klassiker ist "In Stahlgewittern", welches stilistisch und inhaltlich eine Wucht ist. Habe noch nichts weiteres von ihm gelesen, plane aber nächstes Jahr ein wenig in sein Werk einzutauchen.
Noch ein Tipp: hier auf /lit/ gibt es einen Hamburger Buchclub. Ich selbst komme aus Berlin, konnte daher noch nicht teilnehmen aber falls du aus der Ecke kommst, ist es vielleicht was für dich.

[Anonymous No.22792358]

>>22792312
I think there's a lot of political bias and agenda behind the recommendations, especially when you consider that critics like Marcel Reich-Ranicki and many authors (Group 47) banded together after WWII to exert significant influence over which authors and books were allowed to become successful. This is one of my problems with much of contemporary literature and the reason I ask for recommendations here rather than taking them from, say, Das Literarische Quartett.

[Anonymous No.22792365]

>>22792333
Pic rel fiel mir noch ein.

[Anonymous No.22792383]

>>22792333
Thanks for the recommendations. I already checked out Literatur ist alles and listened to a few hours of his videos, they are great.

[Anonymous No.22792396]

>>22791808
Ok here we go:

W. G. Sebald: Austerlitz

Rainald Goetz: loslabern
Abfall für alle
Johann Holtrop
Irre

Christian Kracht: Faserland

Peter Handke: Mein Jahr in der Niemandsbucht

Maxim Biller: Biografie
Der gebrauchte Jude

Elfriede Jelinek: Die Klavierspielerin

Jenny Erpenbeck: Gehen ging gegangen

[Anonymous No.22792405]

>>22791808
Wenn es auch Tote Autor:innen sein dürfen:

Thomas Mann: Der Zauberberg/Buddenbrooks

Thomas Bernhard: Holzfällen

Ingeborg Bachmann: Malina

Max Frisch: Montauk

Günter Grass: Blechtrommel

Heinrich Böll: Gruppenbild mit Dame

Joseph Roth: Radetzkymarsch

Heinrich Mann: Professor Unrat

Robert Musil: Der Mann ohne Eigenschaften

[Anonymous No.22792417]

>>22792396
Is Kracht worth reading? I've read Imperium ages ago but it didn't leave a lasting impression.

[Anonymous No.22792423]

>>22792417
It depends. Faserland is his classic since he became the German Bret Easton Ellis with this novel - and it is a quick read. It is essential for getting an understanding of German pop lit

[Anonymous No.22792530]

>>22792405
Take your trolling back to /pol/.

[Anonymous No.22792733]

>>22792333
Nicht der OP, aber wie ist Demian im Vergleich zu Steppenwolf und Siddhartha von Hesse? Ich habe die beiden Bücher vor einer Weile gelesen und fand sie beide gleichermaßen schrecklich. Ersteres war für mich nicht viel mehr als eine nicht wirklich gelungene Geschichte über einen Mann in einer Sinnkrise mit klaren autobiographischen Zügen. Letzteres war einfach nur östliche Esoterik westlich dargestellt und grenzte für mich an Selbsthilfe Literatur.

Empfehlung für OP: Atemschaukel von Herta Müller. Eher ein schwieriges Buch, aber fantastisch geschrieben und teilweise schon poetisch.

[Anonymous No.22793178]

>>22792002
>he doesnt know Benno von Archimboldi

[Anonymous No.22793465]

>>22791808
Is there anything like this but dealing with philosophical literature? Not necessarily German-speaking authors but IN German

[Anonymous No.22793474]

I got a book called Sachwörterbuch der Literatur
Is this a good starting point for reading German?
It's not sewn, the paper looks nice and seems like good quality seeing as the book is 50 years old and hasn't yellowed. It's hardback and about the size of a Pléiade volume
Is this typical of German books?

[Anonymous No.22793547]

Peter Stamm , a contemporary swiss author.
Deceased but modern, some of them bought in antiquarian markets.
Arno Schmidt
Gregor van Rezzori
Hans Bergel
Siegfried Sommer

I have started researching independant publishers from Austria, Switzerland and Germany.Look up lists,prizes, indexes,association memberships, subsidies and book fairs (Frankfurt and Leipzig are the biggest) and clickbait articles for new and or old publishers.
Tried some releases from Verlag verlorene Bücher from Austria and Wagenbach ( for some Italian authors)
The Kurt Wolff Stiftung for example.

[Anonymous No.22794025]

>>22792733
Ich persönlich mag Demian mehr als seine anderen Werke, jedoch würde ich dieses Buch ebenfalls als Literatur für Männer mit Sinnkrisen einordnen. Statt östlicher Philosophie ist das zentralen Element der Wille zur Macht, was es für mich interessanter gemacht hat.

[Anonymous No.22794065]

how many germans hang out here? dont you 'people' have your own german 4chan? like how the japs have their own place?

[Anonymous No.22794194]

>>22794065
Average seething pole

[Anonymous No.22794235]

>>22794025
Dann gebe ich Hesse nochmal eine Chance. Ist ja auch ein kurzes Buch.
Hast du noch Empfehlungen für gute Buchläden in Berlin?

[Anonymous No.22794304]

>>22791808
A similar thing happened to me. I ended not reading books in English for a while and it worked quite well. I even read translations of English works.

[Anonymous No.22794422]

>>22794235
Dussmann ist mein Favorit, auch wenn die Englische Abteilung in letzter Zeit stark nachgelassen hat. Dennoch bin ich weiterhin gern da und schaue, was es so gibt.
Für Sci-Fi-Literatur kann ich das Otherland in Kreuzberg empfehlen. War lange nicht mehr da, aber die sind gut sortiert und man kann sich gut von Verkäufern beraten lassen. Nebenan ist auch eine Krimi-Buchhandlung, kann aber wenig zu ihrer Qualität sagen.
Um die Ecke gibt es auch den Berliner Büchertisch, da findet man die typischen Klassiker für 3€/4€.
Falls du englische Bücher stehst, dann St George's in P'Berg. Den mag ich sehr, auch wenn er fast immer voll ist.

[Anonymous No.22794528]

>>22792292
I'm Dutch and live in the Netherlands, but my Dutch is seriously awful. I've been supplementing with English vocabulary since I was a child, and I even think in English.

[Anonymous No.22794745]

>>22794422
Danke! Hoffe, du hast noch eine gute Woche.

[Anonymous No.22794898]

>>22794745
Dir auch! Und halt die Augen offen, ich will demnächst mal versuchen einen kleinen Buchclub hier zu starten wie die Brüder in HH. Ist vielleicht was für dich.

[Anonymous No.22795056]

>>22791869
>has over 22k books
>his favorite author is Nabokov

the absolute state of this guy.

[Anonymous No.22796698]

bump

[Anonymous No.22796724]

>>22791808
For me it's "Mit Papa Wars Nur Blümchensex". A dad is fucking his 4yo daughter for years until she becomes too old (14).

Little girl rape stories are thrilling

[Anonymous No.22796734]

>>22791808
The only literature Germans need is the Douay Rheims Bible and a Rosary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55f___1XYVE

[Anonymous No.22798241]

>>22796734
>Germans need to read English