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I read King Warrior Magician Lover and I kinda found it trite and unhelpful.

I don't want any blithe, drive by advice. Some book that really helps you understand what manliness essentially is, and how to center yourself in it and reconnect to it.

>> No.22787914

I recommend with complete and total sincerity that you read through Greco-Roman Classics and Medieval literature. I think that will help you.

>> No.22787918

you fucked up from the start if you think 'reading a book' will teach you about manliness. here's a hint: to be a man means to be a creature of action. not a fucking bookworm.

>> No.22787942

>>22787914
Like Plato? Or the Greek dramatists, Homer? I find all that stuff indescribably boring, to be honest.

>>22787918
If you'd been more in line with the first guy's suggestion and had any sense of masculinity beyond late 20th century American culture you'd realize that traditionally women had been defined as analogous to practical reason, men as analogous to theoretical reason. I.e: the focus on action is cope. Action is handmaiden to truth.

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>>22787901
If you were born XY you are a male.

>> No.22787953

>>22787918
illiterate worm

>> No.22787954

>>22787942
nowhere did I say being a man meant being an anti-intellectual. that’s where you went with it because you can’t think for yourself and need a book to tell you what’s what. Books are amazing. But don’t know one damn thing if you think reading a book is going to teach you about something like this.

>> No.22787956

>>22787901
Barely disguised tranny thread.

>> No.22787964

>>22787944
Fucking paste eating retard. I elided 'good' there, because in context it ought to be obvious. Yes, I am already a man, my question was how to live out masculinity most fully. Everything should act in line with its nature. Human beings have free will, so we can live out that nature to a greater or lesser degree, and masculinity isn't exempted from this. It's just another category of morality.

>>22787954
Thanks for the drive by advice. I guess I'll just intuit it through the universal cosmic nous then. Very helpful

>> No.22787974

>>22787964
desu I don’t think you are a male. Or if you are you were surrounded by women (single mother) your whole life because none with a sack between his legs would ask for a “book to understand manliness”. It’s completely incoherent

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>>22787964
Masculinity is a construct you pathetic fucking meat puppet. If you can't figure out what to do about being a male then self terminate for the betterment of the gene pool.

>> No.22787995

>>22787901
For me it was Joseph Conrad and DH Lawrence.

>> No.22787996

>>22787985
All our ideas are constructs inasmuch as they attain to some measure of the truth. Some visions of masculinity are more truthful than others.

Your sophomoric relativism is self-defeating btw. Is social construct theory itself a social construct? Is "social contrucT" a shorthand for "bullshit?" Guess I can ignore it then.

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>>22787996
You might not actually be XY after all. You could be intersex, it is a shame modern medicine allows those deformities to exist at all. Do you even possess testicles?

>> No.22788090

>>22787901
Reverend Insanity.

>> No.22788107

If you didn't have a dad to teach you how to be a man you're screwed. Reading books as an adult won't cut it.

>> No.22788169

>>22787901
Anabasis, to teach you how to keep heart in the face of adversity

A Hero of Our Time, to teach you soul when you're fucking a guy's wife or killing some beta who stepped to you

The Prince, to teach you how to lie when it benefits you or to slap a bitch if she isnt putting out