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22753600 No.22753600 [Reply] [Original]

It's over, isn't it?

>> No.22753612

I dont disagree with being able to just buy shit online but it is kind of sad not having an excuse to leave the house anymore

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22753644

dealers who run actual bookshops, the kind with cat piss and imminent fire hazards, don't compete with amazon

"independent" bookshops who sell the same stock as amazon serve no purpose now

>> No.22753654

>>22753644
where is that bookshop? I feel like I've been there before

>> No.22753662

>>22753600
>>22753612
unfortunately, those bookshops never have the books I'm looking for. They're wonderful if you just want to buy books, but not so much if I'm looking for a very specific book that was written in the 30s

>> No.22753663

>>22753600
Who even reads?

>> No.22753669

>>22753644
this

Also these "hip" stores are expensive asf. Buy your shit from old boomers who wear glasses on the tip of their nose and look at women in a weird way.

>> No.22753670

>buy book from amazon
>when book arrives, claim it was stolen off your porch
>refund

>> No.22753672

>>22753663
This

I have start 59 books in 2023 and finished zero

>> No.22753678

>>22753670
unfortunately, I don't live in a hellhole, so I've never had a package stolen.

>> No.22753734

>>22753672
Average /lit enjoyer

>> No.22753739
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>>22753600
>If you want Amazon to be the world's only retailer, keep shopping there
Okay

>> No.22753777

>>22753654
Looks like the old Henry Pordes on Charing Cross Road.
Covid fucked them, they only do the rare edition high end stuff now.

>> No.22753788

>>22753600
>Seriously does anyone really need an egg sliced by tomorrow?
Huh?

>> No.22753873

>>22753600
Meanwhile this store is shilling the same DEI slop Amazon is instead of encouraging exploration of the Western Canon. And bookshops wonder why readers choose Amazon over them.

>> No.22753884

It's like a pool filling with people even though there's no water in it.

>> No.22753891
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I'd respect them more if they wanted to colonize the Moon.

>> No.22753906

>>22753600
There's one book store in my "city", whereas there were four or so used bookstores in addition to the chain book store. I used to buy books at the used bookstores at least once a month until they closed,but I can't remember the last time I set foot in the remaining bookstore.

Said "new" bookstore is a Coles. Coles (well, Chapters) isn't much better than Amazon. It's objectively worse - at least I can just buy a book from Amazon without being bombarded with an LGBT high schooler trying to sell me two blankets and a subscription to another loyalty card I don't want

>> No.22753909

>>22753906
>bombarded with
Bombarded by. I need to read a book on grammar

>> No.22753917

>>22753670
>>22753678
I live in a hellhole where either the delivery drivers would deliver the parcel to another house of white trash would steal my parcels

>> No.22753921

>>22753600
Would I rather fund...
>space exploration
or
>some quaint little trust fund homo's sense of entitlement
Yeah real hard choice there.

>> No.22753927

>>22753600
>You will read what we sell and you will like it, if we don't have it you don't need it

>> No.22753928

>>22753600
Not in Sweden at least, kind of.

Amazon launched in 2020 here and bombed really badly. Everything about it was just worse and more primitive than existing alternatives we already had for every type of ware. Just feels like the US version of Wish.com where you'll have a hard time finding anything of quality with a high chance of getting ripped off and copious amounts of false advertising.

The book store market is an unofficial duopoly though. With one brand running something like 90% of physical stores and another running 90% of online book purchases.

>> No.22753963

>>22753600
>curated
Pink and light blue covers, self help, the nazis, frida unibrow.
Yeah no wonder ppl just buy an ereader and pirate what they want.

>> No.22753973

>>22753963
hey, lay off frida kahlo. she was like, the perfect woman. except for the metal spine, but I'm sure someone thinks that's hot.

>> No.22753985

If you cunts wanted to sell books, you'd have a single book worth reading in your entire faggot store

>> No.22753990

>>22753600
let me guess they just stock the same garbage amazon does

>> No.22753999

Reminder that if a bookstore goes out of their way to label themselves as "independent" it's trash. It's just a chain bookstore, but with a different store name, and they're more likely to NOT stock classics and the Western Canon for reasons such as "decolonizing our bookshelves", "equity", and "social justice". At least Barnes & Nobles stocks classics and staples of the Western Canon.

You SHOULD be shopping at USED BOOKSTORES. If you're not sure about a bookstore, just walk inside. Does it look like a Barnes & Nobles? Then it's a shitty independent bookstore. Does it look like a coffee shop? Then it's a shitty independent bookstore. Is there a prominent display of the latest best-selling books, Diversity books, and trending on Tiktok? It's a shitty independent bookstore. Avoid stores like these at all costs.

>> No.22754026

>>22753973
Its just tiresome and pathetic that not using a gillette its the ultimate middle finger to 'the men'.
Also
>female painter
>mostly self portraits
Like pottery

>> No.22754034 [DELETED] 

Negroes and brown people don't read. Why market yourself so aggressively to them anyway, then?

>> No.22754044

Sadly brick and mortar bookstores are forced to be thrifty with their inventory and this means they often do not have the books I'm looking for in the specific format I'm looking for. Bookstores are incentivized to only carry the most popular and latest titles in the most expensive formats. They don't have unlimited warehouse space or own printers to spit out fresh copies on demand like Amazon. This means brick and mortar shops can't always meet my demands.

Still, that doesn't mean I resort to Amazon if my local bookstores fail me, I usually hit up eBay first, which is a great place for used books, or Alibris for more general book retail.

>> No.22754050

>>22753788
Next day delivery for inane kitchen gadgets.

>> No.22754083

>>22754026
all you know about her is her eyebrow, huh

>> No.22754084

>>22753600
>space exploration is bad
Why are lefties like this?

>> No.22754089

>>22754084
it's not space exploration, it's a glorified vacation

>> No.22754094

>>22753644
So true, there's a bookshop near me run by some old man with a lame eye and he's got all sorts of esoteric shit. He even gets books in ancient languages sometimes.

>> No.22754125

>>22754089
>vacation is bad
Why are lefties like this?

>> No.22754174

>>22753600
>city people crying about city problems
I'm not driving almost 2 hours one-way, to have some corporate bookstore give me the selection of books that they deem acceptable or profitable. I'll order enough books online, that I can get free shipping instead.

>> No.22754195

>>22753985
You mean you don't want Space Smut: Gay Adventures in Space

>> No.22754210

>he cant multitask

>> No.22754212

>>22753654
Looks like the one in Pasadena

>> No.22754228

>>22753600
You know, the other day I visited a local book store and, on top of not having prices on display, I overheard one of the employees talking about how they just buy books from amazon and other retail chains and just inflate the prices, including books on request.

>> No.22754251

>>22753654

It's in Edgeware Road, near Church street.

>> No.22754265

>>22754034
I suppose that in order to grow your market, you'd try to target groups that aren't already your customers.

>> No.22754369

>go to bookstore
>YA slop
>trendy feminist/gay authors
>kids books about gay sex and hating white people
>everything except what im looking for

>> No.22754384

>>22753600
>colonizing the moon is…. Le bad

>> No.22754394

>>22753644
>sell 200 books a week
How do they stay in business?

>> No.22754720

>>22753600
Why are IRL stores so cringe? Every shop that gets utterly mogged by their online equivalent acting like paying $10 more per item than if I got it online is the noble thing to do, and only heckin' meanies don't support their heckin' wholesome #indie store.

>> No.22754767

>>22754212
Which one in Pasadena? For a second I thought it was DG Wills in La Jolla, but then saw the £ marking.

>> No.22754775

>>22754720
There’s basically two kinds of book stores IRL: the kind you just described, then the kind run by 70 year old white men that has used and out of print books. The latter of these is useful; the former merely sells the same garbage you could buy anywhere online. I can never really fall in love with a bookstore that sells only new books.

>> No.22754785

>>22754384
They want to be given the moon money so they can buy expensive salads instead.

>> No.22754797

Amazon creates more jobs in more sectors than local stores, for better or worse.

>> No.22754810

>>22753600
I wonder how much money it cost to get those signs cut to perfectly fit the windows and professionally printed.

>> No.22754819

I hate it that I got into reading after the classic kind of bookstore mentioned in this thread went extinct in my town. So did the other kind, though, since last year. Everybody buys online nowadays.

>> No.22754826

>>22754212
It's in Bongland.

>> No.22754827

>>22753600
Physical media is coming back to stay, with a vengance. Zoomers will treat CDs/DVDs/BlueRays the way Gen Y did vinyl records & tapes.

>>22753644
>"independent" bookshops who sell the same stock as amazon serve no purpose now

On target. Even good ones with contemporary books outside of the smallest curated corner of passable quality are part of the problem. Any brick & mortar still in existence is doing simultaneous online vending; it's a non-issue.

>>22754720
Location, and fleecing yuppie walk ins.Only having trade-in credit really makes it worth it, favoring regulars.

>> No.22754841

>>22754050
I need an egg sliced today. What does it have to do with books?

>> No.22754865

>>22754827
>physical books are coming back
No chance. These things do have an expiry date for public interest, about 20 years past publication

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>>22754827
>Physical media is coming back to stay, with a vengance. Zoomers will treat CDs/DVDs/BlueRays the way Gen Y did vinyl records & tapes.
Half Price Books is closing stores, raising prices to obscene levels, and pay you almost nothing for your books. It's over.

>> No.22754995

>>22753600
What do they have that Amazon doesn't have? Do they stock The Turner Diaries? If not, why? If you want to compete, you have to provide something Amazon doesn't.

>> No.22755121

>>22753600
>colonize the moon
Nigga nobody lives up there

>> No.22755126

>>22753600
My city is THE shit hole yet we still have one of the best bookstores in the country (John K King). Feels good

>> No.22755160

>>22754767
The one on Colorado down from pcc
>>22754826
Your mom's in bongland

>> No.22755183

>>22755160
Nah, she's in the kitchen.

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>OP pic
>Green Light on Fulton in NY
>check website
>nothing but fotm tripe and authors with unpronouncable oogabooga names
>check insta for inside store pics
>niggers and women
>whole wall of nig and gay children's books
>post proudly showing fat lgbt staff being lectured to by kike industry reps from major publishers, not indies
pic related, this is the kind of "indie" bookstore that huffs its own farts and utterly despises you

>> No.22755199

>>22755190
Note also how the proud indie bookstore that despises large corporations got drinks and snacks for the whole store from Dunkin' Donuts

>> No.22755203

>>22754775
Theres one kind of god bookstore, and thats one composed of piles of old books stacked precariously against the wall, with several shelves dedicated to rare and out-of-print collectors editions

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>>22755190
>mmmm yes, buk.

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>>22753600
here's the problem with these stores, I used to support them, until about 10 years ago. they're all run by pathetic, shrivel, weak vegan men and women with millions of piercings, limp wrists, shitty tattoos, stupid haircuts with stupid haircolors and still wear masks and have BLM and LGBTQ pedophilic recruitment shit everywhere.

As a result I've stopped shopping at all local bookstores. Sometimes I just go in to flip over all the faggot shit they've got lying around. Happy to see them all go out of business, couldn't happen to a nicer group of """people""".

>> No.22755272

>>22755266
Lib status: Owned

>> No.22755293

>>22755266
>sometimes I act like a nigger in public to own the faggots!

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>>22755190
Go look up all the "indy" bookstores in Vancouver, they're all commie shitholes.

https://twitter.com/Arsenalpulp

This is your Vancouver /lit/ bros...

>> No.22755306

>>22755256
What's this from, link?

>> No.22755310

>>22755266
https://books.bc.ca/who-we-are/code-of-conduct/

I already emailed them links to my books and told them to fuck right off.

>> No.22755322

>>22755301
One time I found a bookstore in Vancouver that was run by some old man and there were just books all over the place, in cardboard boxes on the ground… I got a good book on Wagner and Nazism from there. I think it was somewhere near Victory Square

>> No.22755349

>>22755322
That's McGuire's books, not sure if I spelled it correctly.

The owner of Pulp Fiction books is a bald fucking dork, the biggest fucking loser I've met.

>> No.22755396

>>22753600
Untermensch outlook.

>> No.22755607

I like going to bookstores but inevitably I find out that they don't have any of the dozen books that I was thinking about and then I go back home and order them from the inernet.

>> No.22755608

>>22753670
Their logistics gorillas keep destroying my cheap Penguin book's covers and I keep getting refunds for them without having to send them back. How can a bookstore compete with that?

>> No.22755612

>>22753600
Every bookstore in my city is full of airport lit and shitty mom crime novels. If they want my business they better stock the shit I want to buy.

>> No.22755613

>>22755608
sounds like bad packaging

>> No.22755614

I go to my town's antique/flea market. They usually have interesting books, diaries, and journals. I really want to find a copy of Mein Kampf that was given to couples at marriage.

>> No.22755615

>>22753600
Okay, give me a copy of Darconville's Cat by Alexander Theroux.
You don't have one? Okay, can I get Lookout Cartridge by Joseph McElroy?
Not that either, huh?

>> No.22755624

I still buy from used bookstores, many of them even often have esoteric stuff that's harder to get online than it is there. If you go to a non-used "indie bookstore" it's always a tiny selection of NPR-core shit not worth spending the minimum $20 they charge for it.

>> No.22755633

>>22753663
My brother in christ this is a literature board

>> No.22755638

>>22755613
They're not packaged at all. I usually get a pristine cardboard envelope thing with an obliterated book inside of it, which would imply that they're busting them up while packaging them.

>> No.22755647

>>22754228
this is how stores work anon. they buy stuff from others and resell at a higher price.

>> No.22755650

>>22754767
>DG Wills in La Jolla
Probably the best bookstore in all of southern California. Dennis is a gem.

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>>22755633
Its a book club that turned into a bants forum, Anon...like a bunch of wine aunts that use it as an excuse to split a box of wine between three people.

>> No.22755660

>>22753672
That counts as reading

>> No.22756313

>>22755293
I mean, that’s probably why the birth rates are low. Not enough of this behavior.

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>>22753600
I live in Norwich, England's first UNESCO City of Literature. There are are a ridiculous amount of bookshops here, lots of cosy ones too.

>> No.22756363

>>22753612
>I dont disagree with being able to just buy shit online
why not? what's the harm in disagreeing with that? afraif of being contrarian much?

>> No.22756371

>>22755647
I wouldn't mind if it was between local stores, but amazon/internet shops? What's even the point when I can order it myself from Amazon?

>> No.22756966

>>22753600
The only bookstores I go to are old, borderline historic, ones and Salvation Army

>> No.22757391

>>22755293
I said I turn things over or flip them upside down, not that I throw everything around, smash windows, and burn it to the ground.

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>>22753600
i wanna read books on a moon colony.

>> No.22757437

>>22755306
NTA, but it was a twitter personality.

https://zyg.edith.reisen/k/detritus/hakon

>> No.22757477

>>22757402
Artemis by Andy Weir counts. His books suck and that one is no exception.

>> No.22757513

>>22753928
All physical book stores here are pure and utter shit, not to mention books here cost a small fortune, even when trying to buy used ones from like bokbörsen or whatever. Fucking hate this shit country.

>> No.22757522

I don't buy from bookstores since all the workers and owners are complete pricks, and they overprice literally everything.

I just buy from AbeBooks. Hope all the bookstores die out.

>> No.22757530

I enjoy bookstores and I enjoy the feeling of having a tangible book in my hand and knowing I didn't give Amazon any more of my money, but at a certain point shit just gets too expensive and I'm tired of the endless YA and White-Women-Self-Help-Slash-Power-Fantasy dreck that gets mass produced

>> No.22757628

>>22755121
colonize doesn't mean conquer
it means to set up colonies. a colony being a young settlement far from a group's home

>> No.22757630

>>22754034
virtue signaling for the white women who do read

>> No.22757664

>>22757630
Middle class white women in cities probably account for like 90 percent of the number of books sold overall, so it's hard to blame the marketing department for pandering to them super hard.

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>be in shopping centre
>see chain bookshop
>go inside out of curiosity
>it's all shit
>see sign that says Coming Soon: Occult and New Age section
>make mental note
>go back there a month or so later
>it's just shit like STRANGER THINGS TAROT and books about witch-themed tattoos etc
Don't know why I expected more.

>> No.22757673

>>22757669
Did you except a shelf filled with Guenon and Evola or something?

>> No.22757680

>>22757673
No, I expected maybe at least some Crowley and a few actually decent tarot decks.

>> No.22757819

>>22755349
>>22755322
Carsons books and records is worth it

>> No.22757944

More like Jeff homo

>> No.22758086

>>22753600
it's gotten to the point where any time i see "orwell" i disregard the opinion

>> No.22758100

>>22753678
That's the point you dumb nigger, you don't have to.

>> No.22758108

>>22753600
Bookstores only have what I want half the time so I started buying online. I must consoooom in my own special and unique way

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>>22753600
I agree with the principle but also, books on Amazon range from 10-90% cheaper than normal bookstores and ship 5x quicker. So step up your game.

>> No.22758265

>>22754775
>>22755203
There's a shop near me that solely stocks military nonfiction and old sci-fi, especially out of print pulp stuff. It's run by a boomer who I'm pretty sure is a 'Nam vet. There are 60's Trek posters and warplane photos on the walls. It's pretty much the only IRL bookstore store I'll shop at anymore; everything else I can buy online.

>> No.22758276

>>22755349
MacLeod's Books, great store

>> No.22758603

>>22758276
My mother used to sell books there

>> No.22758624

>>22758108
>Bookstores only have what I want half the time
Lucky. Bookstores never have what I'm looking for. Never. They don't have John Williams, they don't have Italo Calvino, they don't have Umberto Eco, they don't have Jung, they don't have fucking anything. I bet that even if I went to one to buy a mega normie book like Harry Potter or Twilight they'd be sold out.

>> No.22758637

>>22758624
Really? My barnes and noble has had loads of great books. The recognitions, makioka sisters, of human bondage, the book of disquiet. Looked for the magus and didnt have it but did have the lieutenant’s daughter. Its so fun to go but I’m just tired of it being so hit or miss. Honestly I give them more credit for their gems than I blame them for peddling shit, but it’s all the same easier to just get what I want on amazon.

>> No.22758646

>>22753600
Amazon has a selection of books that includes ones that I actually want to read

Most local bookstores are run by lesbians and stock
>she persisted
>books with a censored swear word in the title that assure women they can just do the things they already want and plan to do (boyfriend/dad simulator)

They can't compete against amazon because their selection is garbage

>> No.22758848

>>22753662
This. Also bookstores tend to be expensive. I don't mind paying an extra $10 to support an actual bookstore but when you're trying to charge me nearly double the price of Amazon then I'm going to go there.

>> No.22759083

>>22753662
They can order all books, Anon. I kinda feel like you've never actually been in one or never interacted with the personnel. Are you just too afraid to ask for "My Struggle, uhhh, uhm, yeah of course the annotated version where Jews put everything into (((context)))"?

>> No.22759186

>>22753928
The situation in Germany was interesting when Amazon showed up. They wanted extra money for one-day delivery. Everyone told them to fuck off, because that was absolutely normal for everyone and everything in Germany. So, what did they do? They artificially prolonged their delivery times. The postal services were inspired by this and are now doing the same shit.
Amazon destroyed the postal services in Germany.

>> No.22759198

>>22754034
Google ESG

>> No.22759216

>>22753600
Any good books about moon colonizations? Novels are acceptable

>> No.22759217

>>22755349
>>22757819
>>22758276
>>22758603
Vancouver /lit/ meet up when?

>> No.22759220

>>22753600
People like this are the best argument for monopolies.

>> No.22759230

>>22754228
Are you retarded? Just asking because making fun of the actually mentally challenged is inappropriate and I don't want to call you a faggot before making sure.

>> No.22759251

lmao is this what mutt and leaf bookstores look like?
My local one here in Europe is comfy AF and I found a hidden compartment behind a bookshelf that leads to a recreational room for the employees. No pandering to Blackrock et al. Many classics, well-sorted, friendly personnel. I weep for the murricas.

>> No.22759330

>>22759083
are you fucking stupid? books go out of print, and they can't order them anymore. fucking dumbass.

>> No.22759343

>go into prague shakespear and company
>excellent selection, however
>books ludicrously overpriced
>second hand paper back mass produced novels are like 10 euros each
Pre-internet this shit would fly because of the wide variety of their books, but now that everything they sell is obtainable from ebay for half the price, how can they afford to stay open? I'd imagine a massive percentage of their profit is just from their meme tote bags and tshirts that the roasties buy in vast amounts

>> No.22759350

>>22754034
ESG regulations

That's why you never vote socialists (or Dems in the US)

>> No.22759355

>>22759330
And Amazon can? Learn to read or leave /lit/ you fucking imbecile.

>> No.22759463

>>22759343
>complaiing about 10€/book
Here paperbacks cost between 15-30€ and I SUFFER

>> No.22759473

>>22755651
>a box of wine
a what??

>> No.22759474

>>22759463
These are old and worn secondhand copies. They should be a couple of bucks at most. A new book should be more along the lines of 10-20 euros

>> No.22759476

>>22759473
goon mate

>> No.22759486

>>22759476
huh?

>> No.22759488

>>22759474
The price of most second hand books are equal to new books here, at least when buying online. And you also have to pay a larger shipping fee so the cost is actually greater than new books in many if not most cases. Only some physical book stores that sell used books are cheaper, but they almost always have an extremely shitty selection.

>> No.22759500

>>22759474
>They should be a couple of bucks at most
Second hand book stores in my country are like 20% cheaper than new ones outside of a few academic books. Amazon is either the same or better.

>> No.22759501

>>22753600
I hate these stores and make an effort to shoplift from them as much as possible.

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>>22759488
>>22759474
tfw Tokyo has better and cheaper used bookstores than Europe

>> No.22759507

>>22759355
God, you're a moron. Yes, fucko, Amazon has a huge selection of second hand books. Have you ever bought a book in your life?

>> No.22759514

>>22753600
>curated by real people not an algorithm
GPT-sama has given me far better recommendations than any of you faggots on /lit/.

>> No.22759515

>>22757513
You can always go back, Muhammad.

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>>22759515
It's Pekka to you, good sir.

>> No.22759558

>>22759507
So do second-hand bookstores. Fuck off.

>> No.22759565

>>22759507
>moving the goalpost that far away
>moron
lolfag btw

>> No.22759568

>>22753600
I get most of my books in a second hand bookshop. Cheap as fuck and I often come across some absolute gems. There's one particular shop where the kid of some academic from the 40s obviously sold all his father's old books, so I have a heap of books on ancient history that I got for a pittance. The chap had his own personal logo or crest on the inside covers of the books, which is interesting.

>> No.22759805

>>22757669
only time I ever found a decent book of that vein was oddly at a famous art museum selling meditations on the tarot

>> No.22759811

>>22759558
you have to be trolling at this point. even second hand bookstores can't order out of print books. the only bookstores that do that, are antik bookstores that actively have to go and look for them. It's a service only a few shops offer. don't fucking reply to me again.

>>22759565
dipshit

>> No.22759862

>>22754026
>>22753973
>feminist symbol
>beaten by her husband

>respected artist
>husband corrected and finished her paintings

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This is where I get my books.

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>>22759884

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>>22755301
>commie shitholes
>no books about communism

>> No.22759932

Saying you should buy from small businesses and not amazon is good and true but it's cringe when the small business themselves are saying it.

>> No.22759939

>>22759932
It means little when those very small businesses eat at Dunkin Donuts every day

>> No.22759968

>>22759811
You are literally the dumbest person on /lit/ I've ever witnessed.
>Amazon has more books than stores
But stores can order them
>Noooo not if they're oop you retard dumb homo lololol btfo
So can't Amazon
>B-b-but Amazon has second-hand books!!!!111
So stores can order them.
I rest my case. No use trying to talk sense into the downright retarded.

>> No.22759989

>>22759968
>he thinks stores order their books off of amazon
I said don't reply to me, shit for brains

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>>22759989
nta but they have catalogues which they order off of from publishers. How do you think people ordered books before the internet?

>> No.22760000

>>22753600
> Amazon
Murican have like no alternatives for Amazon or what? Monopoly in free market?

>> No.22760016

>>22759991
THEY CAN'T ORDER THEM IF THEY'RE OUT OF PRINT
Jesus Fucking Christ. You're both congenital retards. I'm not going to reply anymore.

>> No.22760145

>>22759989
>I said don't reply to me
I didn't read your full post because I knew it would contain more coping with being incapable of basic reasoning.

>> No.22760174

>>22760016
>second-hand bookstores exist
>bookstores can't buy books out of print
>amazon has books that are out of print
>bookstores can't buy from amazon
Nigga what

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>>22753999
>>22754775

Same here. If the bookstore I walk into is not staffed by an old guy or some wierdo, I'm not really interested. My real test is what is in their history sections and how messy and organized the place is. The good bookstores will have dedicated sections for WWI, Civil War, WWII, shit like that. I ended up in one of these woke independent chain stores in my city, and some guy working there told me that they didn't want to celebrate those conflicts, so they had a minimal selection. That just made my blood boil.

The other thing is when the bookstore cashier starts curating my selections. That happened a few times and I just don't go there anymore to places like that. "Oh, you're reading an autobio on civilian life in Nazi Germany? Why are you reading about WWI? Ooh a cookbook on sauces, got a hot date coming over?" The good stores will just process your sale and shut the fuck up.

The real OG place to get good books though? There's a guy at the gun show who sells legit ass older out of print titles, mostly on history or conflict, combat, military strategy, hunting. etc. I ended up with a mint copy of the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich for 5 USD from that guy and I've been buying from him ever since like clockwork.

>>22759884
What is that, a Mexican Tianguis or municipal market or some shit? Looks cool.

>> No.22760739

>>22760269
Book street market in downtown Mexico city, funnily enough it's a short walk to the street where the oldest used bookstores are.

>> No.22760787

>>22759884
Sovl

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>>22760269
>having books on a topic means they are "celebrating" it
What an abhorrent and idiotic way of thinking. And for a bookstore of all places to think like that..

>> No.22760934

>>22760269
>Oh, you're reading an autobio on civilian life in Nazi Germany?
They know you’re a chud/child so their hope is to shame you into reading more than /pol/dreck.

>> No.22760949

>>22753600
I don't know how it's going in murica but here it's sad to buy at stores that are not resellers due to a single factor - online, the publishing houses have extraordinary offers/bundles/discounts if buying from them while the physical stores have them at full price. ofc it's worth it only if u buy more than one book in order to attenuate the transport fee but still. i prefer to buy in person so fucking much but man when i can get 2 even 3 books for the price of one i mean that's on you. if they would only push to do deals with the publishing houses so that those offers apply in-store as well, i would only buy online foreign books that i cannot find here.

>> No.22761004

>>22753600
local bookstores that don't exclusively carry used books should and will die, and nothing of value will be lost

>> No.22761036

>>22754775
There used to be a used bookstore in my town ran by this old man and once I bought books there he said to me "Bless you and have a blessed day." It was genuinely one of the nicest interactions I've ever had with anyone at a store and he was a total stranger.

Compare that to your average indie urban faggot bookstore that charges potentially double for what you can buy on amazon, and actively snarks at you and antagonizes you in the process.

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>>22760880
No, but it does mean that they don't shun it from being read, and you damn well know bookstores are doing this, especially the woke ones, by putting the Alphabet People shit up front and center. You know shit is bad when the WWII section is only about BIPOC shit related to WWII, and not a healthy balance of dry histories, biographies, autobios, and analysis/essays. There are plenty of woke bookstores that refuse to carry specific authors or entire subjects because it might, might be offensive to a selective group of people.

The bookstore I frequent never has had an issue with it. Old guy, doesn't give a shit about anyone, treats everybody the same, gives a very good recommendation for specific authors, and has fair prices and good stock.

>>22760934
Call me as you like, but I read plenty of other shit.

>>22760739
I saw a lot of booksellers in CDMX, even some in Tianguis mercados, but not so many English titles and though I can speak and read Spanish I'm too lazy to read an entire novel.

>> No.22762146

>>22753600
I went to one of these faggot indie stores and it was full of LGBT troon gay race communism. No thanks. I'll continue to buy my ebay books from second-sale and thriftbooks for $3 a piece.

>> No.22762174

>>22759343
>I'll take European Union subsidies for the price of a paperback

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>>22753600
Strand Employee here, idk about other independent book stores but we're packed with customers most of the time, things are fine for us

>> No.22762947

>>22753600
Ereader + libgen.is = kill amazon and annoying small bookstores st the same time. Fuck em

>> No.22762979

The real problem is that these local stores somehow manage to be even bigger loci of globohomo than the global multinational monopoly. I don’t shop at them because Amazon is cheap or something. I don’t shop at them because they suck.

>> No.22763001

>>22760000
Nobody has any alternatives to Amazon because Amazon has successfully monopolized the market information rather than the market. Their real advantage is not their website or their logistics or even their wide range of products, but rather the way they get enough info to plan all of that. If anyone is successfully selling things, they know about it and can just leverage that information however it’s best leveraged. That’s not a market since it’s just information and so there’s no monopoly. Imagine if Wal-Mart knew the exact details of every brick and mortar transaction that happens in the country and what they could do with that information. Now consider that’s Amazon but not just brick and mortar. Even companies that sell products but don’t sell them on Amazon end up giving Amazon the info because they use Amazon web servers. The only countries where there are alternatives to Amazon it’s simply because Amazon has gotten there yet rather than them being outcompeted.

>> No.22763032

>>22753600
I only buy books at the antiquarian.

>> No.22763080

>>22762453
Strand is its own brand at this point. I see Strand totes all the time even in Japan. It will survive any downturns in the industry.

>> No.22763165

>>22763080
"lol", said the multinational globohomo corporation, "lmao even".

>> No.22763442

>>22753600
The bookstore in my town is FULL of lefty shit now. Not one bit of "problematic" literature. They put their politics into everything now, too. They had a "VOTE YES" poster out the front for that abo Voice to Parliament bullshit in October. When I saw that sign, I decided to walk away and just order from Booktopia, a decent fucking bookshop in Australia.

>> No.22763455

>>22760269
I feel this. Those weird cunce who sell old, out-of-print books are the best. Indie bookshops here sell a lot of woke faggot shit and contemporary bullshit, like Young Adult literature. The one I mentioned above this only hires young white bitches and minorities/fags now. I'm glad I never applied for a job there frankly. I'm content with being on disabilitybux and rotting away in my personal library full of shit I enjoy (ordered from online :D)

>> No.22763539

>>22753600
Hating Amazon is based but any business that tries to shame its own prospective customers is in for a bad time.

>> No.22763541

>>22753600
Maybe bookstores need to stop being faggots and start carrying books worth a damn! I don't need their sanitized garbage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.22763564

>>22753600
There used to be a bookstore where I live but all they sold was modern crap and femlit, it got replaced by a bike store

>> No.22763899

>>22753600
Yes i dont want to read the biography of a pedowood negresse so im gonna keep buying on amazon

>> No.22763933

>>22753600
This is so contrived. These are the same people who will blame capitalism for everything, yet they charge tons of money for their books. Notice the hashtags. They don't care that Elon wants to colonize Mars.

>> No.22763935

>>22763165
>>22763442
>>22763541
>>22762979
Again, idk about other independent books stores since i use my discount at Strand for any book buying, but i don't think we've gone in any "lefty globohomo" direction. We have 18 miles of books, you can find a wide variety of books on basically any ideology or viewpoint. We'll buy pretty much anything that will sell.

We have some dumb stuff, like the "bookTok" table that promotes books that get popular through TicToc, but even that is just the market. We promote those books because people buy them

>> No.22763957

>>22753600
Too bad
>your selection is shit
>your employees are cranky
>your prices are cranked up
>i'd likely get thrown out if i tried to socialize
I do not care about muh local bookstores, they've never provided me any value.

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>>22753600
>It's over, isn't it?
2023, almost 2024 and The Winds of Winter still isn't out. Yeah it's over

>> No.22764095

>>22763539
Sensible take.

>> No.22764186

Went to my local bookstore this weekend, immediately when you walk in the door it is BIPOC and LGBT and typical YA shite.

Could not find a single edgy or based book in the entire store. Why is literature just so fucking faggy?

>> No.22764245

>>22763935
I don’t even have Strand books in my state.

>> No.22764256

I’m thinking about starting a strictly online publishing company. I have some professional expertise working with the people who run such things so I think I could make it work. I’d want it to be an actual vanguard for Western literary culture without being overtly political.

>> No.22764287

>>22764256
>I’d want it to be an actual vanguard for Western literary culture without being overtly political.
So its a wannabe American Affairs?

>> No.22764297

Last time I went to a brick and mortar bookstore it was nothing but DEI books and funko pops from wall to wall. Amazon is much better.

>> No.22764524

>>22764287
No. Did you even read what I wrote? American Affairs IS explicitly political and I said I specifically do not want that.

>> No.22764570

>>22764297
"shop here but NEVER think about working here"
yeah im thinking predictable

>> No.22764771

>>22760269
>>What is that, a Mexican Tianguis or municipal market or some shit? Looks cool.
Looks like a flea market to me, basically in America but the same thing.

>> No.22764814

>>22759514
You are talking to bullshitGPT generated posts

And, true. Even ScamTok gives better book recommendations than this shit board

>> No.22764875

>>22764256
start with the usual stuff to have a product base, then focus on producing decent translations to stand out. also sell epubs and/or pdfs without any drm, the only ebooks ive ever bought were ones i could just buy, put in my books folder and read on any device with any software i wanted.

>> No.22765492

It occurs to me the UK doesn't have this problem at all. Independent book shops everywhere including charity shops which specialise in books. Not to mention Waterstones who practically let you take any book you want for free.

>> No.22765556

>>22753612
you will eat the bugs in your pod antisemite

>> No.22765589

>>22759083
Where do they order the books from?

>> No.22765603

the market will self correct once they become too big, literally nothing to worry about

>> No.22765825

>>22765589
Depends, they all have several sources ranging from official publishers to antiquariats. The book that Anon was likely talking about is freely available as new print with the annotations I mentioned.

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>>22753600
>Go to physical bookshop
>Tote bags
>Pins and stickers
>Wall of funkopops
>Books named shit like "How to F$%##ing BEAST online marketing" or "Brown Skin, white Town" by Luanda X. Bin Salaam"
>Turn 360 degrees out the door and walk away

>> No.22766055

>>22766018
Yeah for real. I buy from amazon because I detest my local book shop. I hope all these fags fo out of business.

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>>22766018
topkek

>> No.22766326

>>22753600
I don't give a fuck

>> No.22766404

There are other online stores with books
I'm not paying MSRP for a book man sorry

>> No.22766411

>>22766314
Absolutely based apostle quote

>> No.22766425

>>22753662
I get angry when I walk into the bookstores because the employees still wear masks and it’s a reminder that they won’t even have the books I’m looking for. Wanted to support the bookshop closest to me but they still required masks up until a few months ago. Hope they go out of business. I want all those people unemployed.

>> No.22766429

>>22753600
Listen, I like an old bookshop as much as the next guy but more bookshops should have merged with coffeeshops and diners and shit a long time ago. I mean, Barnes & Noble kinda did but if I had a local bookstore, I would have gone to any local coffeeroaster and begged them to take up a quarter of my space to make coffees and pastries and whatever a long time ago and fought tooth and nail for every local customer to choose my shop over starbucks or whomever however I could. It's sad but the days of enormous bookstores dedicated to just books is over. And I'm a guy who loves them. It's just over.

>> No.22766439

>>22766429
yeah, pretty much this. bookstores are just simply outdated. sure it would be to just walk around and browse, but it would be kinda cool to go to a legit drive-in cinema too, they just dont really exist anymore.

the end of bookstores != the end of books

>> No.22766476

>>22766439
They'll continue to exist in some form until one day they'll become something different and you won't even realize it happened until you're paying money to visit and take a picture.. They'll mostly exist in your nearest big cities, until even the used bookstores in big cities begin to die out. And then they'll become some sort of corporatized disney-esque nostalgia version of "something to do" on a rainy afternoon. Like drive-in movie locations you mentioned will maybe, at best, have like 1 per state or region and families or people will have to actively seek it out for some sort of nostalgic experience or perhaps only in places like Vegas or Orlando or Los Angeles and it'll be like visiting an old west town and taking a sepia soaked picture with your family dressed up in old timey cowboy clothes and stuff. such is time.

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>>22766476
thats some grade a memento mori shit man

>> No.22766516

>>22766478
Yeah.

>> No.22766528

>>22753600
>shaming people into buying your product
Aren’t women supposed to be good at marketing?