/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.22751140]

Why were no authors able to accurately predict this era?

[Anonymous No.22751149]

>>22751140
unpredictable era

[Anonymous No.22751153]

>>22751140
BNW did a decent job.

[Anonymous No.22751185]

>>22751140
Damn, that's soul crushing.

[Anonymous No.22751189]

Being able to accurately describe the contemporary world would out you as a low status loser.

[Anonymous No.22751194]

>>22751185
Not really. It wouldn't have worked. She was controlling the frame. She would've gotten bored within 2-3 weeks.

[Anonymous No.22751200]

>>22751194
Who cares, nigga. He would have fucked a cute tomboy for three weeks. It's a big loss.

[Anonymous No.22751225]

>>22751140
Oof this hurts to read, but
If he cared he would have looked right away to see what she had written to him.

I once wrote something super cringe to some cute girl I’d just met a grade below me. The next year I felt really embarrassed to see her but she always smiled at me flirtatiously so I guess she liked it. Never made a move though, think I had a gf by that time. Just goes to show though, a bad move is better than no move. Trust me it was pretty fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.22751228]

>>22751225
>Trust me it was pretty fucking cringe.
Tell us, anon. What did you write?

[Anonymous No.22751272]

>>22751228
I dont remember exactly some douchy shit about how she was pretty cute and I might have to steal her away from her bf one day

[Anonymous No.22751275]

>>22751272
Chad move. Nothing cringe about that, anon.

[Anonymous No.22751278]

>>22751140
Ted K did an ok job but he was writing not too long ago in the grand scale.

[Anonymous No.22751280]

>>22751140
Infinite Jest was surprisingly close, all things considered.

[Anonymous No.22751319]

>>22751280
>>22751140
I was going to say Infinite Jest too. David Foster Wallace predicted a lot.

[Anonymous No.22751328]

>>22751140
I would've killed myself. Thankfully I never talked to a single woman.

[Anonymous No.22751333]

>>22751200
Nope. He would've made awkward and fumbling advances and been sexually unsure. Her pussy would've dried up immediately and she'd've sidelined him.

[Anonymous No.22751359]

>>22751333
well at least he would have gained experience. Me? I feel the need to practice with 12 and 13 year olds, so that they we can learn together

[Anonymous No.22751901]

>>22751333
Insane projection

[Anonymous No.22751913]

>>22751200
>my long distance relationship would have worked this time

[Anonymous No.22751961]

>>22751275
Thanks, bro I should try and think this way when the cringe thoughts come on lol

[Anonymous No.22752481]

>>22751140
I think E M Forster did a pretty good job with "the machine stops." Hw went a little far with the hal type technology and we don't live under ground but everything else is pretty spot on. And he got that publish back in 1909.

[Anonymous No.22752500]

There are so many women I don't understand why you'd obsess over a single missed opportunity.

[Anonymous No.22752503]

CS Lewis
Actually most reactionary Christians in the early 20th century saw what was coming

[Anonymous No.22752513]

>>22751901
Anon is correct. No poon potential at all. Posting on here is all that's needed

[Anonymous No.22752558]

>>22752500
>There are so many women
less than one per man.

[Anonymous No.22752577]

>>22752500
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

[Anonymous No.22752708]

>>22752558
Luckily for us women can be used more than once, so your post doesn't make sense.

[Anonymous No.22752724]

>>22751140
I did this sophmore year of hs. A girl gave me a note written on a textbook check out card saying "I like you" but I thought she had passed it from the name that was on the card. I looked her up in the yearbook and she was a year older than me and had never met her so I was just confused. I realized I was retarded like 4 years later.

[Anonymous No.22752729]

>>22751333
>He would've made awkward and fumbling advances and been sexually unsure.
bro wtf

[Anonymous No.22752735]

>>22752724
We realised you were retarded immediately.

[Anonymous No.22752744]

>>22752735
Pls understand I have autism

[Anonymous No.22753021]

>>22751140
Liberal bias, Whig history in academia

[Anonymous No.22753299]

>>22752708
Only virgins are worth anything. In ancient Rome the fathers had their own daughters put to death if they lost their virginity.

[Anonymous No.22753316]

>>22753299
Thanks for the info, I'll go looking for one at the local middle school.

[Anonymous No.22753571]

>>22753299
>In ancient Rome the fathers had their own daughters put to death if they lost their virginity.

>Scribonia (c. 70 BC – c. AD 16) was the second wife of Octavian, later the Roman Emperor Augustus, and the mother of his only biological child, Julia the Elder. Through her youngest daughter she was the mother-in-law of the Emperor Tiberius, great-grandmother of the Emperor Caligula and Empress Agrippina the Younger, and great-great grandmother of the Emperor Nero.
>According to Suetonius, Scribonia was married three times; her first two husbands were consuls. [...] This indicates she had a son from her first marriage who was living with her after she was divorced from Octavian.
>In 40 BC, Scribonia was forced to divorce her second husband and marry Octavian, who had recently divorced his wife Claudia.
>Octavian's motive in marrying Scribonia was to cement a political alliance with Sextus Pompey, husband to Scribonia's niece or sister. The marriage was brief and unhappy; he divorced her on the very same day as the birth of their daughter, Julia the Elder, his only natural child.

>Livia Drusilla (30 January 59 BC – AD 29) was Roman empress from 27 BC to AD 14 as the wife of emperor Augustus. She was known as Julia Augusta after her formal adoption into the Julian family in AD 14.
>She was married around 43 BC. Her father married her to Tiberius Claudius Nero, her cousin of patrician status who was fighting with him on the side of Julius Caesar's assassins against Octavian.
>After peace was established between the Triumvirate and the followers of Sextus Pompeius, a general amnesty was announced, and Livia returned to Rome, where she was personally introduced to Octavian in 39 BC. At this time, Livia already had a son, the future emperor Tiberius, and was pregnant with the second, Nero Claudius Drusus (also known as Drusus the Elder).

In ancient Rome the fathers had their own daughters prostituted sequentially 3 to 5 times for dowry or political alliances.

[Anonymous No.22753579]

>>22753571
That's even better. It's the opposite of today where fathers pay for their daughters whoring adventures.

[Anonymous No.22753593]

>>22753579
>It's the opposite of today where fathers pay for their daughters whoring adventures.
Maybe, but it still proves that virginity was not worth shit in that society.

[Anonymous No.22753601]

>>22753593
Late Rome isn't an example, they were terminally degenerated at that point, like the West is today.
It's like saying that gay faggots are tolerated in the West because they are so from the late 20th Century onward.
There's no reason to infinetly despise these Roman politicians for being decadent coomers.

[Anonymous No.22753606]

>>22753593
>From the start of the Roman Republic, there was a high emphasis placed on a woman's virginity. Pudicitia (chastity) was a goddess of feminine purity, and was worshipped by Roman women.

[Anonymous No.22753708]

>>22753593
It was valued. There was a case I read of a tutor getting caught having sex with the daughter, and the father had them both executed.

[Anonymous No.22753767]

>>22753601
>|No, not that Ancient Rome, that Ancient Rome was decadent and fallen already!"
The first recorded laws that against adultery as a crime prosecutable in court (as opposed to just a ground for divorce without return of the dowry) were instituted by... Augustus, the same game who started fucking his third wife when she was still married to her first husband and pregnant with his second child not that Octavian then proceeded to dutifully raise his wife's sons, as was the custom at the time. Prior to that, adultery was never criminal in Roman law - husband could punish his wife for adultery as the head of the family, but the wife's relatives could then sue him if they believed that he overstepped or disrespected the father-in-law by this punishment.

The mythical foundations of Rome that are of questionable authenticity, but are known to play a significant role in Roman culture since the time of Kingdom - meaning Romans themselves largely believed them to be true come from the Abduction of Sabine Women, by Roman warriors, from their Sabine husbands.

Point being that Ancient Rome with it's paganistic culture is a bad example of chaste society. Try Byzantine or Catholic Spain, unless they are not "vgh" enough for you.

>>22753606
>Pudicitia (chastity) was a goddess of feminine purity, and was worshipped by Roman women.
Which inherently implies that said purity was uncommon. Reminder that prostitution was a legal a licensed business in Rome, largely conducted by citizen women, as coupling with slaves was seen as borderline bestiality by the Roman society all the way until decline of slavery.

[Anonymous No.22754012]

>>22753767
Doubtful. People married several times frequenty, but I don't think premarital sex was condoned for women.

[Anonymous No.22754164]

>>22754012
>I don't think premarital sex was condoned for women
Of course - reliable contraception was not a thing yet, and STDs were rampant.

[Anonymous No.22755365]

>>22753299
>Only virgins are worth anything.
Christianity and its consequences.

Sex with virgins won't give you magic powers. In fact, assuming you're a virgin as well, the experience would just result in a lot of pain and discomfort.

[Anonymous No.22755393]

>>22755365
You're a modern woman who is shortsighted. This pleasure seeking won't lead you to happiness. When you're old (30+ for a woman) you'll have nothing but your husk.

[Anonymous No.22755394]

>>22752500
I am old and have fucked dozens of women, a couple LTR's under my belt and currently engaged. When I think back on life the ones I didn't hook up with, the ones where I didn't even make a move, those stand out and sting worse than the times I blew it.
Always take a chance, shoot your shot. Not doing so is far worse than failure.

[Anonymous No.22755524]

>>22752500
>>22755394
I don't get that at all. In the past before birth control and abortion they might get pregnant and then another man would raise your son; perhaps without even knowing it's not his. But today? Sex for ego is completely meaningless; as fake as playing video games or watching porn.

[Anonymous No.22755546]

>>22755394
Imagine random hookups being such a defining part of your personality that you agonize over them.

[Anonymous No.22756091]

>>22751333
Damn

[Anonymous No.22756099]

>>22751319
>>22751280

lol

[Anonymous No.22756102]

>>22755546
Haha yeah.....

[Anonymous No.22756339]

I've never known love and never will. How do I cope with this?

[Anonymous No.22756439]

>>22756339
Reading good romance manga

[Anonymous No.22756441]

>>22756439
this depresses me

[Anonymous No.22756463]

>>22756441
Then you must be capable of it, for you long for it.
Go seek it out, anon, nevermind the ugly or the infirm, love is to be enjoyed by all.

[Anonymous No.22756484]

>>22751333
Unfortunately this is the truth. This world isn't made for people like us

[Anonymous No.22756500]

>>22756463
I think I'm one of those people >>22751333
It all feels alien to me. I can imagine it but it's foreign and strange, none of it comes naturally

[Anonymous No.22756532]

>>22751140
>media addiction
predicted by David Foster Wallace
>art being reduced to a trash culture industry
predicted by Adorno
>resentment politics ruling literature
predicted by Harold Bloom

[Anonymous No.22756565]

>>22756500
It does come naturally, the desire is there but the execution is a bit off.

Take as many shots as you can for a while and use a scientific approach to dating, note how they respond to you making a joke, to you telling a story, to you teaching something, or talking about emotions (women love this, bonus points for expressing very specific emotions without mentioning them), and so on. Use this to map yourself in the world of dating, what works and what doesn’t. Really challenge yourself and treat each girl as a shot in the dark, it either works or it doesn’t and none of it defines you, you’re just studying now and these bitches are just lab partners.

Most people don’t do this because they settle for the second or third naturally occurring woman contact. You want to be able to choose, so you must practice and drill the moves you’ll use in your final target.

This is knowledge you’ll use to woo your tradwife later down the line.

[Anonymous No.22756588]

>>22756565
I guess this could work if I even had opportunities.
Tried dating apps, zero results
No women in my field
I don't know man. Maybe I should focus on something else

[Anonymous No.22756612]

>>22751140
no single individual could predict everything, but plenty predicted many things.

[Anonymous No.22756637]

>>22756588
Guess im in a boat that is near yours?
I had plenty of opportunities during my younger days, had probably more gf's then it was worth it, really. But now, im just so ... indifferent maybe?
Im having some small talks with girls at local gym, one of em even drove me in her car once. But they all married, so its whatever. Outside of that, whenever I try to talk to a girl, if theres even a talk going on, I just lose interest in a day, max. Dunno. The girls that I think I like just out of my reach, seemingly gone with my youth.

[Anonymous No.22756638]

>>22756339
do one of the backup plans for incels. either get lots of money together and tour the third world until some old guy in a village throws their daughter or granddaughter at you, buy a wife on the spicmart/out of a drug den, or groom a tranny. coming from someone who wasted their teens and twenties dating roasties, it's not a winning game.

[Anonymous No.22756656]

>>22756565
B00kmark

[Anonymous No.22756672]

>>22755365
virginity is valued in most cultures around the world, christian or not. japan, india, china, all of islam. it stems from male instinct. you can disregard male instinct all you want and see where it gets you. likely the same place that men who disregard female instinct(economic stability/status) end up. alone.

[Anonymous No.22756705]

>>22753593
it was extremely valued like in almost all cultures. what nobility did for political reasons with marriages and what not doesn't even remotely represent social norms.

>>22753767
>paganistic culture
>"They therefore live in a state of chastity well secured; corrupted by no seducing shows and public diversions, by no irritations from banqueting. Of learning and of any secret intercourse by letters, they are all equally ignorant, men and women. Amongst a people so numerous, adultery is exceeding rare; a crime instantly punished, and the punishment left to be inflicted by the husband. He, having cut off her hair, expells her from his house naked, in presence of her kindred, and pursues her with stripes throughout the village. For, to a woman who has prostituted her person, no pardon is ever granted. However beautiful she may be, however young, however abounding in wealth, a husband she can never find. In truth, nobody turns vices into mirth there, nor is the practice of corrupting and of yielding to corruption, called the custom of the Age. Better still do those communities, in which none but virgins marry, and where to a single marriage all their views and inclinations are at once confined. Thus, as they have but one body and one life, they take but one husband, that beyond him they may have no thought, no further wishes, nor love him only as their husband but as their marriage. To restrain generation and the increase of children, is esteemed an abominable sin, as also to kill infants newly born. And more powerful with them are good manners, than with other people are good laws."

what about paganistic culture is supposed to disvalue virginity? that's tacitus on germans, doesn't get much more pagan than that.

[Anonymous No.22756758]

>>22756565
It's not worth it. Take it from someone who had success with dating apps, it just made me hate women. There's quite literally nothing good about them other than the fact that you can fuck them.

[Anonymous No.22756803]

>>22756758
You hate them because you don't accept them as they are but you keep an infantilised ideal of woman should be and that they have the free will to become that ideal, which they hardly do. But I doubt that you hate bears for attacking people or volcanos for destroying towns.

[Anonymous No.22756843]

>>22756803
The problem is I am forced to be around women. I can easily avoid both bears and volcanos.

[Anonymous No.22756853]

>tfw fell in love with the cute tomboyish girl at my workplace but she's already engaged to another man
Books for this feel?

[Anonymous No.22756866]

>>22751333
when people say stupid shit like this the only appropriate response is 'shut up bitch'

[Anonymous No.22756874]

>>22756853
Just gotta learn to move on. Easier said than done, really. Try and avoid seeing them or being around them since it will just cause feelings to arise.

[Anonymous No.22756884]

>>22756853
I know this won't get through to you right now, but she's not nearly as good as she appears.

[Anonymous No.22756908]

>>22756803
"infantilised" is a good one. I dont think thats "infantilised", but you are right otherwise. They are as human as you and I, they have all the potential in the universe, yet, they chose to be... this. Infantile, warped.

[Anonymous No.22756949]

>>22756908
To be fair this is true for most people. Society just tries it's hardest to lie to you about women, for understandable reasons.

[Anonymous No.22756959]

>>22755524
Its not just about sex. Its about interacting with another human in an intimate way and the joy of playing the flirting game.
You create a special memory that's just between you and the other. I don't think that's meaningless at all.

[Anonymous No.22757006]

>>22756949
Its honestly infuriating. We are being lied ot, okay. But we are asked to behave as if the lie was the truth. Women lied to, as well. But they dont compelled to behave as if it were true, no. They just expect us to behave as if it were true. Id say this is how some form of a slavery feels like.

[Anonymous No.22757014]

>>22751140
didn't Nietzsche, Spengler, De Maistre and Carlyle predict everything

[Anonymous No.22757018]

>>22757006
It's certainly what being a second class citizen feels like yes. I suggest you get over your anger though, it won't help. Just try to disengage from society's values and pursue self-empowerment.

[Anonymous No.22757023]

>>22751333
Fucking wasted digits
You are a sad man

[Anonymous No.22757029]

>>22757018
Im not angry, im just disappointed. But you suggest to abandon the anger, why? Is it not justified? Id say, im angry at myself for not being angry enough about the whole conundrum.

[Anonymous No.22757032]

>>22757029
There's nothing wrong with being angry or any other emotion. The issue with anger is that it gives the object of your anger a degree of control and also that anger is not a good source of input for rational action.

[Anonymous No.22757038]

>>22751333
kys incel

[Anonymous No.22757046]

>>22756339
create

[Anonymous No.22757049]

>>22757032
This is what Im saying, Im not even angry. It just infuriating, when it confronts you directly, i.e., you talk to a girl, she behaves like a literal pig, but expects all the courtesy of a lady, as written in books. You cant even read, what ladies?

[Anonymous No.22757066]

>>22757046
I have no artistic talent.

[Anonymous No.22757108]

>>22757066
Die.

[Anonymous No.22757111]

>>22751140
Huxley did

[Anonymous No.22757130]

>>22751333
trips confirm the projection

[Anonymous No.22757133]

>>22756099
If only he knew how bad things would be.

[Anonymous No.22757156]

>>22757108
mom would be sad

[Anonymous No.22757182]

>>22755393
>You're a modern woman
Today I learned I am trans.

[Anonymous No.22757192]

>>22756672
The male instinct is not purely focused on virginity.

[Anonymous No.22757259]

>>22756853
Move on. It fucking hurts but you can’t get obsessed with women you have no chance with, don’t get oneitis.

[Anonymous No.22757264]

>>22751194
t. virgin incel

[Anonymous No.22757277]

>>22751140

[Anonymous No.22757278]

>>22751333
This, it happened to me. I was desperately in love with a lesbian co worker for 2 years and she eventually asked to kiss me but I was nervous and unsure and inexperienced and it was awkward and she said it didn't feel right and now she ignores me completely.

[Anonymous No.22757311]

>>22752708
>women can be used more than once
no. a woman can be used once. after, only a whore remains.

[Anonymous No.22757315]

>>22753316
yes. this is unironically the only path. many take it, though the only middle school girls available are 2-dimensional.

[Anonymous No.22757318]

>>22757156
but then you do know love.

[Anonymous No.22757327]

>>22756853
all unrealized love amounts to a crush and a crush is a condition mostly goes away in 2 weeks if you don't actively reinforce it. it lasts for as long as you keep feeding it by entertaining the thought.

literally just don't let your mind linger on her. the first few times it might be hard to not let your thoughts get the better of you but practice mindfulness so this condition does not recur. most adults have already mastered this skill, you should too.

[Anonymous No.22757337]

>>22755394
>currently engaged
>still obsessing over one-night-stands he missed out on
Lmao, just cancel the wedding now. Save your wife and yourself the fucking disaster that is incoming.

[Anonymous No.22757344]

>>22755365
>Sex with virgins won't give you magic powers
Indeed. It is no sex and being a virgin myself that will. Only 2 years and 4 months to go. No vixen shall sway me from the path of the arcane.

[Anonymous No.22757702]

>>22751140
Pic in OP is distilled suicide fuel

[Anonymous No.22757798]

>>22751194
>She was controlling the frame
lmao

[Anonymous No.22758129]

>>22752500
Any failure in any area of life justifies suicide.
There's literally no logical argument otherwise

[Anonymous No.22758134]

>>22751194
huh?
not at all
you don't know what controlling the frame is

[Anonymous No.22758144]

>>22758134
i do, it's when you have a picture of minecraft steve and your mom has a picture of your aunt's family but there's only one frame so you pull out your gun before she has a chance to draw

[Anonymous No.22758148]

>>22753601
Terrible example, holding something accountable for its own late stages is more than valid
If a society is fundamentally lacking a flaw, then the flaw will be predominant at any stage of that society. Nobody can say that Qing China was too egalitarian, for example. There's no need to cope about it at all.
"The West" exists as such because of the Renaissance (LARP movement) where people like the fucking Borgias directed the aesthetics of culture for the next half millennium to imitate those of corrupt elites from Greece and Rome. Sodomy is a founding value of the west, which was just not at the forefront until recent times.

[Anonymous No.22758153]

>>22751140
Feels good having a gf and not feeling moved at all by this shit.
My condolences to all who want a "tomboy gf" lmao

[Anonymous No.22758155]

>>22758153
Our condolences that your ass-eating pornsickness-accommodating tradwife looks like an AI-generated image of "mid + woman"

[Anonymous No.22758159]

>>22758148
>Sodomy is a founding value of the west
I 100% agree with this and I'm a born Westerner. Truth is, Western society was built and is operated by faggots and it's primary output is faggotry. No other civilization is as obsessed with it as us.

[Anonymous No.22758218]

>>22756959
Social media blows that little girl sentiment right out of the water bud. Ditto TV and movies and even novels which inject pretense into every relationship ahead of time. Pic rel only it's everyone in any type of relationship with you unless you've known them since elementary school. I know it sounds boomer af, but I really don't know what to say other than tv and cell phones ruined society and there is nothing you can do about it. I mean really what chance do you have with anybody? This is what it means to be a wagie. You're a totally mobilized economic unit (no tie downs of real substance) and it's by design.

[Anonymous No.22758248]

>>22756484
>tfw sensitive young man
it never began

[Anonymous No.22758269]

>>22758159
>No other civilization is as obsessed with it as us.
Japs and Muslims (especially Turks)

[Anonymous No.22758282]

>>22758269
This is untrue. Homosexuality != Faggotry. Homosexuality has occurred in many cultures, but Faggotry is uniquely Western.

[Anonymous No.22758350]

>>22758155
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.22758406]

>>22758218
Honestly even if you act like a total cuck and have all the "right" opinions, most of those FDS type women will still find a reason to pass. Like these cunts literally go on 50+ first dates without ever saying ok to a second date. They are complete lost causes, you cannot save them

[Anonymous No.22758409]

>>22751194
Redpilled