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Are there any available reading charts like this for studying Logic?
In the previous threads, the honorable Anons provided me with this:
https://www.logicmatters.net/tyl/
Poweroflogic.com

>> No.22750823

>>22750810
Just read euclid

>> No.22750854

>>22750810
>studying Logic
Why on earth would someone want to do that?

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>>22750854
to open one's eyes

>> No.22752165

>>22750810
Not a chart, but this dude's based:
https://youtu.be/8oItn_8i2q4?si=9O7niDAqyFBPo6AK
It includes:
>Socratic Logic by Peter Keeft
>An Introduction to Traditional Logic by Scott M. Sullivan
>Logic as a Liberal Art by R.E. Houser
>The Science of Logic Vols. 1 and 2 by Peter Coffey
>An Introduction to Logic by H.W.B. Joseph
>Formal Logic by Jaques Maritain

>> No.22752395

>>22751979
Open them to what?

>> No.22752823

>>22750810
FUUUUUU I LOVE LOGIC

it's like math but better

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>> No.22753645

>>22752165
Thanks, man! I will check it.

>> No.22753744

>>22752823
>but better
why?

>> No.22753956

>>22753744
more abstract

>> No.22753986

>>22750810
I'm sure there are some charts out there but I don't have them to provide. Logic is the one aspect of philosophy that requires actual work, you can gloss over the basics and watch videos on it and say you know it but in truth to actually possess control of it you have to apply yourself and work at using it and there really aren't any notable shortcuts to this. If you are interested anything by George Boole will be of help, Aristotle had texts on the use of it, and the list goes on really.

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>>22750810
this book is directed more towards people who just want to read any analytical philosophy paper, but it's still great. work on all the exercises. It'll give you a good knowledge of all contemporary forms of logic. The bibliography will help guide you if you still want more in-depth learning after you've finished it.

>> No.22754045

>>22754031
will I gain some sort of superpower if I read it?

>> No.22755202

Just rent a newer textbook. Don't listen to anyone telling you to read Aristotle or whoever. Logic has changed a lot since then. Reading older people like Aristotle or even Russell won't really give you the full scope of the field

>> No.22755344

>>22755202
like?

>> No.22755369

>>22755202
What the shit? You fucking retard telling people not to read then telling TO read because that gives them the "full scope''... kys you illogical gorilla nigger

>> No.22755831

>>22753992
>It's not on libgen.
Gay

>> No.22755846

>>22755344
NTA but I know that during COVID the logic professor at my old university used forall x: Calgary. It seemed like a decent book for self-study, it's free, and has plenty of exercises. I'm not sure if it covers soundness and completeness, but you can just get something else for that then.

In general, it's really important you actually do the exercises because that's the best way to learn logic and make sure you understood the material.

I don't know about historical approaches to logic, i.e. reading the classics, but it's very uncommon to do this in courses about logic. Not saying that it's not worthwhile, but every logic course I took focused on recent stuff since that's what current research is also about (at least in math/formal logic).

>> No.22756829

>>22750810
>Are there any available reading charts like this for studying Logic?
that would be really interesting i agree

>> No.22757899

>>22753744
it's more fundamental. in mathematics you study what follows from particular axioms that you believe represent certain abstract objects of interest. but it is logic who governs what follows from what

>> No.22757916

>>22752165
Very neat, rarely see this perspective. Usually it's analytic logic with no care whatsoever for the outsider's/newbie's only general interest in logic, so they just bombard the guy with "read this specific textbook within this specific local tradition that I happened to get taught in at my uni."

Thanks for this post anon.

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>>22752165
he is correct in identifying logic as a practical subject and also as "the science of pure reason", which it most certainly is.

>> No.22759493

>>22755846
I also did a course using forallx and would recommend.

Do you know of any textbooks that go into more advanced stuff or the foundations of logic. Looking for textbooks that go into stuff like Godels proofs, Hilbert Systems and more recent developments in logic since then.

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>>22750810
Read Hegel.

>> No.22760390

>>22759493
I know that Logic and Structure by van Dalen covers Completeness and Soundness of propositional and first-order logic and also Gödel's First Incompleteness Theorem in quite some detail. I've also heard good things about Smith's An Introduction to Gödel's Theorems.

For more advanced stuff I'd recommend checking the references for the sections which interested you most. If you are interested in modal logic, you could check out Blackburn's Modal Logic. It covers quite a lot and is more geared towards people who have some training in mathematics or theoretical computer science.

Regarding the foundations of logic, I don't know that much. The only area I know a bit about is the debate about Logical Pluralism and Anti-Exceptionalism about logic. For the former you can check Beall's and Restall's book Logical Pluralism and the literature it spawned. The most recent version of someone defending Logical Monism in book-length is One True Logic by Griffiths and Paseau. I've only read the first part of that book though. For Anti-Exceptionalism you can check the stuff published by Matti Eklund, Gillian Russell, and people who have worked with them. To get the most out of it, it's good to have some knowledge of psychologism and how Frege and Husserl rejected that idea and claimed that logic is not descriptive of how people reason, but is about how people should reason according to logical laws.

>> No.22760789

>>22755846
During covid..... kys