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How do I get into philosophy? Am I supposed to choose one or read all of them?

>> No.22744954

>>22744944
swtg

>> No.22744957

>>22744944
I hate the “start with muh Greeks” meme, but honestly, for this, it’s just correct. Start with Plato. Foundational, exciting, and pleasurable to read. It doesn’t super matter what Plato you start with. Get a copy of The Republic or a book that has like three or four dialogues collected in it. You could also start with Descartes’ “Meditations,” the book that kickstarted modern philosophy. It’s short, easy to understand, and still debated today.

>> No.22744987

>>22744944
Dont listen to swtg fags. All ancient philosophy is adequately explained by Kant. To really start in an interesting and modern fashion that won’t have you wrapped up in rhetorical cliches, Kant and Spinoza.

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>>22744944
here ya go retard have fun.

>> No.22745014

>>22745009
Why the fuck is your image so small?

>> No.22745015

>>22745014
gte a bigger screen bitcxh

>> No.22745021

>>22744944
Read what you like or selections from major thinkers.
Look up syllabi from major schools. Really doesn't matter

>> No.22745026

>>22744944
Generally speaking all philosophy before Descartes was a meme thanks to chr*stians appropriating neoplatonism to their nefarious abrahamic myths to stifle mankinds progress for 15 centuries.

>> No.22745033

>>22744944
Start with a modern textbook or some secondary literature that provides an introduction. Read wikipedia pages and stanford.plato pages. Take notes on everything.

>> No.22745034

>>22745033
>Take notes on everything.
gay, just read and remember.

>> No.22745037

>>22745026
I hate when that happens :/

>> No.22745038

Existentialism is easy to get into. It's basically just "Aw man I exist what now? :|"

>> No.22745048

>>22745038
Hard to get out of, too.

>> No.22745059

>>22744944
Don’t get into philosophy, watch one piece, do push ups and sit ups, and play TFT on your phone instead.

>> No.22745067

>>22744944
Start with the Greeks. I'm not joking, it's literally how you start with serious philosophy. There could have been an alternative "start with the Indians" route if the stupid fucks had written stuff down apart from what was directly connected to their religions. The Charvakas, for example, were clearly onto something but they lost out to Buddhism and other systems and we only know they existed because they're (disparagingly) mentioned in Buddhist and Jain texts.

>> No.22745072

>>22744944
Why do you want to get into philosophy?

>> No.22745111

Personally, I started with Machiavelli.

>> No.22745115

>>22744957
>Get a copy of The Republic or a book that has like three or four dialogues collected in it
DO NOT START WITH THE REPUBLIC JESUS CHRIST.

>> No.22745155

>>22745059
>watch one piece, do push ups and sit ups, and play TFT on your phone instead.
hello, based department?

>> No.22745326

>>22745014
he saved the thumbnail

>> No.22745333

>>22744944
Gregory Sadler videos

>> No.22745335
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>>22745009
>he saved the thumbnail
I have this American philosophy TM chart for you OP.

>> No.22745383

>>22745335
>da jesus book

what the fuck is this? Compare the book of john kjv

> In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

To the book of John in da jesus book

>1 Da time everyting had start, had one Guy. “Godʼs Talk,” dass who him. Dat Guy an God, dey stay togedda, an da Guy stay God fo real kine. 2 Dass da Guy, da time everyting had start, him an God stay togedda. 3 God wen make everyting, but da way he do um, he tell dis Guy fo do um. No mo notting dis Guy neva make. 4 He da Guy, if you like come alive fo real kine, you come by him, cuz dat kine life come from him. Wen peopo come alive lidat, jalike dey stay inside one place dat get plenny light. Den dey can see an undastan. 5 No matta stay dark, da dark no can pio da light. Everytime get light. Had one guy God wen send, name John. 7 God wen send John fo tell all da peopo wat he know bout Godʼs light, so dey can trus God cuz a him. Dass his kuleana. John, he not da light. He ony come fo tell da peopo dat da light stay fo real. 9 Dat time wen John stay teaching, jalike da light dass fo real was coming inside da world. Dass da light dat show everybody wass true. Dat time, da light dass fo real wen stay inside da world. Wen God wen make da world, he da Guy wen do um. But da peopo inside da world, dey neva know who him.

This is the funniest shit I've read in a while. No way this is real. I'm scared to believe this is real

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>>22745014
Because he's a fucking retard.

>> No.22745459

>>22745383
Yeah I suggest you look up who make up most of christcucks these days.

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>>22745335
It's missing these

>> No.22745476

>>22744944
start with critique of pure reason, quit in 20 minutes and go do more productive things with your life

>> No.22745478

>>22745476
>Is on /lit/
>Doesn't enjoy reading
Lmao

>> No.22745480

>>22745383
It's still better than the original doe.

>> No.22745518

>>22744944
Seneca said you shouldn't read too many authors but rather pick some and read everything they wrote because if you read everyone you'll probably get confused and lose direction
but that's just one guy's opinion

>> No.22745524

>>22745518
you only need the holy bible.

>> No.22745587

>>22744944
Just take the hat off

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>>22745335
>>22745467

>> No.22745695

>>22744944
Read Plato first. Then you can decide if the gay stuff that followed is worth it or not

>> No.22745720

>>22744944
Start with Plato, specifically The Symposium & The Republic. They’re both short east reads and basically every western philosopher for the next 2500 years writes some response to him. He’s by far not the best philosopher but he works great as an introduction. Besides that read whichever philosophers interest you it doesn’t matter too much whether you go in order or stick to a theme.

>> No.22745735

>>22744944
why did nick land stop tweeting two months ago

>> No.22746867

>>22745115
you can start with the republic, it’s fine. better to start with the dialogues ofc but the republic’s a decent starting point if you’re dedicated
>>22745033
is right OP, start with some contemporary analytic stuff. it’s written clearly and it’s short

>> No.22747652

>>22744944
start with books like - introduction to philosophy
that is usually enough to scare off most people with any common sense whatsoever

if you actually like that drivel well you now have a road map for further study

>> No.22747671

>>22744944
Just read Emerson and Thoreau then call it a day

>> No.22747707

You read the Arial bits of Sophie's World, and then realize /lit/ doesn't know much.

>> No.22747715

>>22745033
>>22745034
Take notes only on your own insights.

>> No.22747913

>>22744944
Are you actually just starting? If so then seriously, check out prof Michael Sugrue on YouTube. There's a bunch of recorded lectures from the early 90's and they are literally the best thing I've found on youtube. Intelligent, engaging to follow, not dumbed down but still done with an effort to make beginners understand.
Start with the ones on Plato or Stoicism, or the Kierkegaard one is really good.

>> No.22749202

>>22744944
Read the fourfold principles of sufficient reasoning and tractatus logico
philosophicus

>> No.22749434

if you decide to start with Plato read John M. Cooper's introduction to his edition of Plato's Complete Works for context regarding chronology, translations, footnotes, etc. I'm no scholar but it seems to be regarded as the 'definitive' Plato volume.
Symposium was my starting point, then the Five Dialogues

>> No.22749736

>>22744944
there is only one right answer to this :
Start with the presocratics and work yourself up the whole timeline until today... that is the best you can do

>> No.22749756

>>22745335
Kek

>> No.22749810

>>22744944
Start with the trolley problem and as questions arise read about them. Discover and shit. The key is to use your brain.

>> No.22750367

>>22745335
Gem

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*sips*
*primes you on the entire western philosophy in a quick and entertaining fashion*

>> No.22751568

Ego and Its Own by Max Stirner

Thus spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche

On the Nature of things by Lucretius

>> No.22751625

>>22744944
Best to start with wiki articles and the such before going into dense reading

>> No.22751643

>>22744944
Read about the history of philosophy, then pursue more deeply any thinker who appeals to you personally.
Then realize you can't understand them without reading the ones who came before. Then realize you really do need to just start with the Greeks.

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>>22745674
That is a disgusting chart. I 100% disapprove. Very VERY UNAMERICAN!

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>>22745335
ANOTHER DISGUSTING CHART!

STOP DISRESPECTING MY COUNTRY!