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So everyone agrees this is satire, right?

>> No.22712683

>>22712317
Yeah he was totally being sarcastic when he said a leader shouldn't be overly greedy. And when he said that it's sad, but humans are fickle in their allegiance, he was totally kidding. And when he said rulers should live among the people they rule to keep their ear to the ground, he meant the opposite

>> No.22712691

>>22712683
You are so fucking MAD holy shit dude

>> No.22713020

>>22712317
Still mad about not getting a raise at your software job?

>> No.22713043

>>22712317
Hmm... you're retarded.

>> No.22713080

>>22713020
He should've hired those mercenaries.

>> No.22713272

>>22712691
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>> No.22713557

Why don't posters like OP just be upfront about wanting to discuss books they're obviously interested in?

>> No.22714058

>>22713557
>>22713043
>>22713020
Machiavelli was a hardcore Republican

>> No.22714071

>>22712317
Just a prank that was put into practice immediately and resulted in more death than the world wars (proportionally speaking).

>> No.22714072

>>22712317
its not satire at all. he wrote it because he was a social climber and wanted to get in with the De Medicis. Why would an up and comer in Venice offer covertly shitty advice to a budding ruler in an effort to get in good with his folks?

Have you ever been checked out by doctors?

>> No.22714133

Rousseau called the Prince a satire in the Social Contract, but I never really bought the idea. The idea of the book doesn’t necessarily contradict Machiavelli’s Republicanism. He envisioned a Republic in the mold of ancient Rome, and he commented (as did Rousseau) that a strongman / dictator might be needed in times of chaos to establish order.

https://www.nlnrac.org/critics/machiavelli/primary-source-documents/discourses-on-livy-book-I

>> No.22714186

>>22714133
So I need to read Discourses on Livy to get the full-throated Republican Machiavelli and not the schemer of Prince

>> No.22714214

>>22714186
I highly recommend the Discourses. I think that more fully explores his politics and its a comfy read.

>> No.22714219

>>22714133
We need Trump?

>> No.22714275

>>22714072
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about lmao

>> No.22714281

>>22714275
thats literally the history behind this book

>> No.22714368

>>22712317
Everyone knows it is not.

>> No.22714577

>>22714281
nuh uh

>> No.22715568

Nah

>> No.22715585
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22715585

>mfw there are people who actually use the prince as a office space self help book
the absolute state of wagies

>> No.22715610

>>22712317
No, only midwits think it was satire.

>> No.22715667

>>22715585
Yeah, so what? I also read 48 Laws Of Power. Every little bit helps

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22715675

>>22715667
>Yeah, so what? I also read 48 Laws Of Power. Every little bit helps
How'd that go? Did keeping your enemies close but your friends distant help you get that 1 dollar wage increase?

>> No.22715847

>>22715675
Make more than you