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Anonymous Wed Nov 8 15:00:42 2023 No.22693374 [Reply] [Original]

Do "things" exist outside of human mind? Is reality sans-mind one giant featureless blob of quantum fluctuation? It seems so. But then how do we account for "things" that intuitively seem to exist for themselves, such as plants and animals? Or even atoms and molecules? Are atoms, molecules, electrons, etc just creations of the human mind?

Or is there a true reality with these "things" in concept, and we are able to discover them through our (limited) perceptions?

Anonymous Wed Nov 8 15:05:18 2023 No.22693383

>>22693374
>But then how do we account for "things" that INTUITIVELY seem to exist for themselves
Intuition is worthless for finding the truth. It's intuitive that the sun orbits the earth. It's intuitive that heavy objects fall faster than lighter ones. Intuition is monkey brain stuff that helps us practically day to day nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 15:09:07 2023 No.22693389 >Do things in themselves exist? Jeez if only literally every goddamn person hadn’t thought that before and there happened to be an entire philosophical field dedicated to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 15:57:09 2023 No.22693501 >>22693383 We have to rely on at least some intuitions. Thought without intuition is not grounded in anything. >>22693389 So what's the answer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 16:01:41 2023 No.22693513 >>22693501 the answer, as always, is to go actually read a book rather than asking the monkeys on here to give you half assed explanations of phenomenology

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 16:06:49 2023 No.22693528 >>22693501 >So what's the answer? Religion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 16:08:04 2023 No.22693532 >>22693528 Ugh what a boring person you are. You're so trite and pointless. Stop try to spread your cult..... What a tiresome thing to behold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 16:11:31 2023 No.22693542 >>22693528 Meaning that forms/things exist in the transcendental realm of reality, and we access some of them through our mind?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 20:03:10 2023 No.22694265 >>22693374 your consciousness acts as a dome around you created by your senses, but not only them. There are other consiousnesses also.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 8 20:33:22 2023 No.22694358 >>22693374 Literally me

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 9 01:53:05 2023 No.22695452 File: 209 KB, 640x461, 1623055252448.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>22693374 >>22694358

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